RE: Monopod for photographing children?
The only real reason for using a monopod for action shots is to hold the camera and a long heavy lens up so your arms don't get tired. I like longer, fast lenses shot at wide apertures for shallow DOF (85/1.8 and 180/2.8). By shooting in the f2.8 - 4 range you can use 100 speed film in bright light. BR -Original Message- From: Tonghang Zhou [mailto:tonghang;transmeta.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Monopod for photographing children? I wonder what experience people have photographing unposed children with a monopod or tripod. I used a tripod for this purpose before. A long zoom lens helps, but still it's not easy. One thing about children is that you'd need to lower the camera to their (eye) level, and you'd have to chase them. Seeing that a tripod is cumbersome, I'm contemplating about a monopod. Would folks have some experience to share about this? Tonghang
RE: OT: What we call ourselves.
Out patient -Original Message- From: Pentax Guy [mailto:pentax.guy;rogers.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: What we call ourselves. Now that's just going way too far. Silly. ;-) I'll add another stupid one I like -- photographer Brad
RE: OT: What we call ourselves.
Is that why everyone in my family has told me that UPS drivers now wear white coats? -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:nbaugher;earthlink.net] Committed. Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: Out patient
RE: OT: What we call ourselves.
Reason enough to switch brands. -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:angelart;telkomsa.net] - Original Message - From: Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: What we call ourselves. K-mounties creates another class next to the brotherhood, so it doesn't address all Pentax users. Do we need to include every user group in the name? How do we call the users of those endoscopes? K-Brownies?
RE: OT: What we call ourselves.
Just got off the phone. Don't worry, there's a Pentax guy there weaving a DSLR. -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:nbaugher;earthlink.net] Bruce, call your hospital, ask if there is anyone in your room, if there's not, you've escaped.
RE: Pentax at Photo Expo
Being the US distributor of Pentax cameras is a little like running a pizza parlor in Dacia in 200AD: you don't know what's going on back in the capital. BR -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:daniel559;directvinternet.com] I can see that. Is there any indication that Pentax Japan pays any attention to us raving lunatics? Thanks. Dan Scott
RE: New scanner
This is also my understanding of Win 9x RAM usage. If one could generate a 550mb scan file, I'm not sure why they would do it. To get the entire file into RAM, along with the rest OS and app, would take GB's of RAM and still run very slow. If you want to see the best that it can do on a 4x5, try scanning a small section of it. BR -Original Message- From: Anton Browne [mailto:handmaid;fsmail.net] Hello I too have read on several occasions - in computer mags - that Windows 98 will not benefit from more than 512 MB of RAM. You may have 1G installed but maybe it makes no difference; you would have to do a test to confirm. Certainly I found the move from 256 to 384 insignificant. 128 to 256 did make a noticeable difference though. Regards Anton
RE: New scanner
From the SOYO support site (http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:xbI5pX5sZ_8C:www.soyousa.com/support/index.php%3Fanswer_id%3D97+512mb+limit+in+windows+98hl=enie=UTF-8): Win98/98SE/ME can't handle more than 512 megs of memory It transpires that Win ME, Win98 and Win95 cannot deal with main memory sizes in excess of 512MB. This problem may occur more readily with Advanced Graphics Port (AGP) video adapters because the AGP aperture is also mapped to addresses in the system arena. For example, if Vcache is using a maximum cache size of 800MB and an AGP video adapter has a 128MB aperture mapped, there is very little address space remaining for the other system code and data that must occupy this range of virtual addresses. And here are the three suggested workarounds: Physically remove any memory in excess of 512MB [!] Use the System Configuration utility to limit the amount of memory that Windows uses to 512MB or less. Use the MaxFileCache setting in the System.ini file to reduce the maximum amount of memory that Vcache uses to 512MB (524,288 KB) or less. And the unspoken fourth solution: upgrade to Windows 2000. Knowledgebase also admits that the addressing restriction has been identified as a failing in Windows. Installing Win2K obviated the problem. All 768MB ran faultlessly.
RE: Is there any way we can get rid of Brad Dobo?
No, NO, No! He wants the latest, greatest, most awesome camera made, dude. Canon guy if I ever saw one. Personally, I think he needs a trip to the Bada-Bing Lounge. BR Just east of New Jersey -Original Message- From: Cameron Hood [mailto:hood1616;shaw.ca] Go be with the pros; buy a Nikon.
RE: Pentax at Photo Expo
This is going to be what I got, with a between the lines reading of what was said, because there was a bit less of what was said, but how it was said. Know what I mean? There are people US Pentax employees who follow the list to some degree. (The limit is probably the realization that they are the distributors for a product that raving lunatics buy.) There is also the sense that people on the list just don't understand how things in Pentax work. By this remark I got that distributors have a lot less to do with what Pentax Japan does than what we may think. As in they do what they want. I sensed a certain amount of frustration on the rep's part. BR -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:daniel559;directvinternet.com] Bruce, Aware of us in the Ahhh, that's where the icky smell is coming from sense or the Ahhh, this is what concerns our customers sense? Dan Scott
RE: HP at Photo Expo
The booth list must have had some problem. HP was there back in a corner. I only took a quick stroll through their area, since they mostly have low end consumer digital products. BR -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:HerbChong;compuserve.com] according to the Expo booth list, HP was not present. if there was a scanner there, it was with a 3rd party retailer/distributor. i did not see any HP products at all. Herb
RE: Pentax at Photo Expo
Except for some blabber-mouth employee who can't resist posting on some Pentax list on the net (obviously not this one). BR -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:thomas;bigdayphoto.com] Pentax USA is a seperate entity from Pentax Japan. Japan gets feedback from all the foreign distributors, but Japan makes all the decisions, and they don't necessarily tell the distributors what's coming down the pipeline. tv
RE: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
Let's add the USA while we're at it. When it comes to folks, that actually buy new equipment that isn't run of the mill entry level stuff, Pentax isn't worth the trouble to customers. What is worse is that these folks aren't worth the trouble to Pentax. BR -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca] Hi Pål: Please take this in a friendly way, as it is meant in a friendly way: You are totally out of touch with the unfortunate reality that is Pentax Canada Inc. William Robb
RE: 35mm film scanners
Yes, I get very good 11x17 prints from scans done with a HP S20, which isn't nearly as good as the new Minolta appears to be. BR -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen;sensewave.com] It get excellent reviews and they claim it is better than anything available for desktop use even a few years back. However, what does this mean? As a novice in these matters I'm a bit confused. Is this scanner good enough to get high quality prints from an Epson 2100 printer?
RE: Favorite Poll
10 ft. -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:nbaugher;earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:08 PM To: Pentax Subject: Favorite Poll I'd just like to take a poll to see what your favorite poll is... Norm
RE: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
In NA Pentax is 4th among the big 3. BR -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com] I knew Pentax wasn't top dog, but I thought number 4 out of the big four wasn't so bad. Is Pentax on the way out, or is the sales guy just a yo-yo?
RE: Exclusive picture of new Pentax D-SLR
When it comes to a common chassis for film and digital, I there's less here than meets the eye. Some of the major camera structures are going to be very different between the two types of cameras. There's no film transport mechanism or film plane in a digital camera, but lots more electronics. There will be commonality of subsystems between the cameras, i.e., AF, AE, switches, knobs, lens mount, shutter, etc. BR -Original Message- From: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen;sensewave.com] Thats why the story provided by Pentax UK, all new slr's from the same chassis, makes sense. I'm not convinced the MZ-S as building block for the whole Pentax slr line-up makes sense. The MZ-S was designed as a digital slr from ground up and later engineered into a film slr. This cannot be ideal. A new chassis that is engineered from ground up for both film and digital seem to make more sense. Pål
RE: Strange Pentax posting
Yes. Ralf Englemann was an active member of the group several years ago, and then started hiw own on Yahoo. There are a number of people here who are on both groups. He would seem to just be letting people here know what's going on there. BR -Original Message- From: arkibladt [mailto:arkibladt;get2net.dk] Hi list Did any of you get a mail like this (It's strange since I'm not subscibing to any yahoo list/group):
RE: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D
If you stick to brand name flashes, made in the last 15 years there should be no trouble. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com] I have a stupid question. :-) Ever since beginning photography, flash has been the most troublesome tool. However, what I'd like to know, is how safe is it to use other flashes on a Pentax camera? The Pentax literature doesn't suggest it and warns against major malfunction and nuclear meltdown. :-). Even some in the store tell me to go with Pentax, even when I'm looking at an expensive Metz. Has anyone here had any trouble, or ever heard of someone having trouble?
RE: Film flagship chassis?
All that I've seen so far are just controlled press leaks, and not full fledged Pentax Japan press releases/product announcements. It just looks like an attempt to hold onto customers until there is an official announcement next Feb. Right now it's all speculation as to what the particulars of things like a new chassis or specs are going to be. I'll have to ask the Pentax folks at the PhotoPlus Expo next week. BR -Original Message- From: Robert Soames Wetmore [mailto:rswarchitect;hotmail.com] I guess I'm one of the few still thinking about the possible new film flagship... If the Photosharp report is accurate and the new Pentax digital SLR is based upon the MZ-S chassis (in contrast to the Pentax UK press release's claim of a new chassis), I wonder what that means for a new film flagship.
RE: THE PENTAX SONG: PENTAX FOREVER!
I can't. I just spit up my tonsils laughing. BR -Original Message- From: Peter Jansen [mailto:mrpentax2002;yahoo.com] Everyone Sing Along! Peter.
RE: Exclusive picture of new Pentax D-SLR
Now, if we all assume that Paal is right, and no one makes money selling DSLRs, does that mean Pentax will go broke with a sales smash? Maybe they should put a few bugs in just to be safe. BR -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:audiob;ozemail.com.au] Yes it is practically the only way that they could do it without costing themselves a bomb given the prior development. At a street price of around US$1200 it should be a winner if they manage to first ship it bug free.
RE: Exclusive picture of new Pentax D-SLR
You have all the right in the world to exist, but you don't because you are just anonymous bits. For low volume production items the cost is in the tooling and setting up production, and not the materials. -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:DesJardinS;wlu.edu] Please try to answer without questioning my right to exist since I don't have intimate knowledge of mfg processes ;^))
RE: Exclusive picture of new Pentax D-SLR
They don't need any fancy bugs, since Pentax service doesn't exist in North America. BR -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:w_robb;accesscomm.ca] Well, they can put in sticky mirror from the LX, and dying frame counter from the ME/Super Program, and rusting ISO resistor from the LX, and dissolving foam from the LX and dirty lens mount contacts from everything A series. They could also put in a few hidden bugs, such as auto flash disabling at the least opportune moment , like the LX... William Robb
RE: THE PENTAX SONG: PENTAX FOREVER!
With their tag line they hardly need a song No I won't bother repeating it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Rfsindg;aol.com] ...and by the way, does Nikon have a song? How about that Bruce! Regards, Bob S.
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
Another Canon shooter trying to confuse things... All AF lenses are compatible with the N50. BR -Original Message- From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s;hotmail.com] The AF 50mm f/1.8 is a very good lens. I'm not familiar with the N50, so I'd recommend that you check carefully to see which AF lens models are compatible with it. Len ---
RE: Film to check a lens
You have to look at the film to really see what is going on. I find it easier to examine slides than negatives. I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film is fine. Just make sure you use a tripod and good technique. The most difference between the lenses will be at wide apertures. So do most of your shooting there, and focus carefully. BR
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
Any Nikon AF 50mm lens ever made will work properly on a N50. BR -Original Message- From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s;hotmail.com] And your point is? Len ---
RE: OT: Nikon 50's
I did that in my very first post on the subject. You followed that post with a post that suggested the possibility of there being incompatibilities. I don't know if this was done with the desire to wave a red herring around, or simple ignorance. BR -Original Message- From: Leonard Paris [mailto:kd9s;hotmail.com] Do you suppose it would have been possible to simply state that right off without the snide remarks? Len ---
RE: Re[2]: Film to check a lens
This is why I said slide film. You used print film, and it sounds like you looked at prints, which can lead to all sorts of problems. The point of using slide film is to look at the film itself, and I find that easier with slides. The biggest problem is getting viewing the film with high enough magnification do draw good conclusions. Once I started using a 30x, stereo microscope it became much easier to see what a lens could do. BR -Original Message- From: Alin Flaider [mailto:AlinFlaider;xnet.ro] Bruce wrote: RBMB ... I think just about any 100 speed, or slower, slide film is fine. I wouldn't agree entirely. I recently used Reala 100 to take a series of test shots for my newly acquired SMC 135/2.5. Later I compared the enlargements to those made from a Fuji HG 100 - a very cheap, high contrast film, targeted for ps crowd, Servus, Alin
RE: ZX-5n plus Sunpak 444D
The Sunpack site (www.tocad.com) doesn't have the specs for the flash's coverage. I doubt that it goes wider than 28mm, if it even goes that far. I would suggest using Stofen Omnibounce to spread the light around. BR -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:gldnbearz2;yahoo.com] Hey gang- Hope this gets through... a whiles back, there was a discussion of flashes that could be used on the ZX-5n. One of the William's and Dick Graham both suggested the Sunpak 444D. My question now is has anyone used it w/ a wide angle lens, say a 20-35 zoom, and what were the results, especially between 20-28mm?
RE: OT Non Pentax Rap Music Nonesense (was: Re: Vs: Vs: Re[3]: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff)
I do not follow this list 24x7. I was responding to an earlier post of yours. You do not need to do anything more. BR -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola [mailto:djm;stanleypmlaw.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Non Pentax Rap Music Nonesense (was: Re: Vs: Vs: Re[3]: Med format exhibit in Texas, great stuff) I said I was guilty and promised to stop. What more do you want me to do? Unsubscribe? Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: Sorry, Dan, but it is a Pentax list, and not an interesting conversation list.
RE: law and image
Original picture, not subject.You have to remember that the most important thing is to have the person who took the picture say, "it looked like that". BR -Original Message-From: Otis Wright, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Snip And would someone like to define "original"? I'm always very careful about how much weight I give an "original." A lot of things can happen between the object of interest and the film/sensor. Or, am I missing something here? Otis Wright
RE: Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter
I think that it is a pretty good tele-extender, although I never compared it to an expensive 7 element one. It one of the better ways to get an 85mm AF portrait lens (with a 50mm). The elements move to provide the AF capability, so it only works over a particular distance range that varies with the particular lens being used. BR -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:mcross;ncen.org] I am particularly interested in the image quaility loss and autofocus performance. Thanks! Michael Cross
RE: Pentax 1.7x AF Adapter
It will work the same way: as a tele-extender with a limited AF distance range. (I don't think that the AF drive shaft passes through the adapter. BR -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:mcross;ncen.org] Does it work with F/FA lenses or only with manual focus lenses?
RE: Paal Comes Through Again
The pie was related to Photokina; too late for that now. Before every big show, or Pentax anniversary, Paal implies (or states explicitly) that Pentax will make some big announcement. This makes him right about 10% of the time. I'm still waiting for something more substantial than rumor. BR -Original Message- From: gfen [mailto:gfen;infotainment.org] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Paal Comes Through Again On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, tom wrote: We have a ways to go before it's listed anywhere... See, they have to make a date for you to win the camera, but I think they just have to show a prototype to make Bruce eat his pie
RE: is the list broken again?
The digest isn't working for me either. BR -Original Message- From: Francis Alviar [mailto:alviar629030;yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 12:25 PM To: Pentax Discuss List Subject: is the list broken again? Have not been getting any digests since yesterday pm. Just wondering. Thanks. Francis M. Alviar __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
RE: The flagship is coming!
If they bulked up the MZ-S it would be in the EOS3/F100 class. It's less than half the weight of the F5. I don't think any Pentax user would want anything bigger/heavier than a EOS3/F100, which are also somewhat bigger/heavier than a PZ-1. BR -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:DesJardinS;wlu.edu] My Opinion: or EOS-1v) precisiely for those folks who liked the PZ-1P and want all of the high end features. The MZ-S can remain the nice but less features camera like the the F100 or EOS3.
RE: Pentax annonces digital SLR
Pentax has 40% of the MF market in Japan according to intelligible translations. BR -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:angelart;telkomsa.net] ... does these figures indicate the companies market share ie 40% of all MF sales are Pentax or is it that 40% of all products that Pentax sells are MF? Feroze
RE: The flagship is coming!
Pro features, yes? 45oz body weight? I don't think so (even I didn't). There is just so much designers can do in terms of size/weight/cost/features/performance. It's not like other maker's cameras are made from cast iron. BR -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:DesJardinS;wlu.edu] I know that the MZ-S is much lighter than the current F100/EOS1V, but Pentax cameras tend to be lighter (as you indicated). I just think that the MZ-S won't bulk up well, so they will need a larger body to include those extra Pro features.
RE: Split the list or calm down ?
There's always Ralf Englemann's list at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pentaxxstarforum/ -Original Message- From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Or do you think we should split the list ? Add pentax-flames list ? Make an entirely new (moderated) list for those who wish to have friendly chats about photography ? I'm puzzled... Antti-Pekka ---
RE: What this board is really about (and why we should keep it that way)
Just try staying on your meds. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] My personal goal is to be .
RE: What this board is really about (and why we should keep it that way)
Another poster child for why Pentax uses should always be wearing their aluminum foil hats. -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi Group, my name is Norm, I'm here because I have little voices in my head, they tell me things about digital cameras
RE: Re:To the pentax spies
He's beginning to roll the steel balls in his hand again. Maybe he's just had too much strawberry ice cream. -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] snip
RE: Digital thoughts
The T-80 was a Canon. Pre EOS AF. Interesting thing about Canon and Nikon is that they are proud enough of their products to have Museum/History areas on their Japanese web sites (translated into English). It's interesting to read about what they though of their competitors, what they did/didn't do well, why certain decisions were made and how certain designers are regarded. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden 'Subject: Re: Digital thoughts AFAIK, the only AF 35mm SLR with interchangeable lenses that Olympus produced was the OM-77, OM-88?? And who remembers the T-80? William Robb
RE: dslr
The FA 100/3.5 it is! I don't have any true macro lenses, and it can't feel any worse than a Nikon AF50/1.8. BR -Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: dslr Nope, just AF500FTZ's. I'd be willing to part with my FA 100/3.5, which is of comparable value to a functional Program Plus, I guess. I've also got a set of extension tubes and a Pentax macro rail I never use. There's an A 50/1.4 in the gear case too. Of course, the 100/3.5 may be the cheapest, worst-built prime ever put out by Pentax - I'm sure we'd never hear the end of it... tv
RE: An (Un)educated Guess about Pentax and future Digital Single Lens Reflex Offerings
Do you think Pentax will really outsource the whole body just to get into the market? I don't know about this. Pentax would have done better using the Foveon chip from the beginning. That chip has a lot of sizzle to it judging by the threads on Photo Pro Digital. BR -Original Message- From: Len Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I think that Pentax will offer a Digital Single Lens Reflex body that uses the Foveon chip. The body might be made by Sigma but it will use Pentax mount lenses. I just need to get my thoughts on record, just in case. I don't have any inside information, just a gut feeling. Len ---
RE: Digital Darkroom Question
Open the camera back in full sunlight to pre fog it. BR -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:56 PM To: PDML Subject: Digital Darkroom Question How do I keep the monitor from fogging my film? Norm
RE: 50mm 1.4 v. 1.7
Yes, but the larger aperture of the 1.4 makes it a better magnifying glass, emergency cigarette lighter. BR -Original Message- From: Norm Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:56 PM To: PDML Subject: 50mm 1.4 v. 1.7 I say my 50/1.4 is just as sharp as the 50/1.7 when stopped down to 1.7 Norm
RE: Re[2]: DSLR - I know, I know
Does the D100 have a control for contrast? Some digitals do. If it does, it would make it less necessary to tweak things later. BR -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] He agreed, but said that he had hoped that taking digital images would basically remove that step of the process.
RE: Digital! I got digital!
From elsewhere, BTW, the chip for the Kodak DCS 14n is made by Fillfactory, the same company which makes the CMOS for Leaf's C-MOST back. You can learn about this company's chip technology at their web site: http://www.fillfactory.com/index2.htm Kodak has a 24 X 36 CCD chip of their own, but no plans to build a camera around it themselves. Bob Shell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] That's a point for Canon. Who else produces these chips? Philips, Canon,...?
RE: Digital! I got digital!
DSLRs have been around for years. It is naive to think that DSLRs are in their first generation. Thinking that Pentax will start selling an up to date DSLR, when they've sold nothing more than simple PS digital cameras, is pure fantasy. Pentax has passed on high end digital. BR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I am convinced, that we are still in the first generation phase.
RE: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
Like these? http://www.nikonmall.com/category.asp?search_id=4 I was thinking about why the major camera manufacturers don't release a VHS tape series (or DVD) on how to use *their* camera.
RE: OT: Not digital :) An interesting question
Nikon has several different ones now: http://www.nikonschool.com/ BR -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Nikon also used to put on a travelling road show called the Nikon School (I don't know if the program is dropped, or if Regina just doesn.t get it anymore).
RE: Now.. about that Pentax DSLR....
Was his name Pal Jensen by any chance? BR -Original Message- From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Seeing as how the list was down all last weekend; and I got a chance to talk to a Pentax Rep (yes they DO exist) at the local Henry's Sales/Show Extravaganza out here in Toronto
RE: DSLRs and viruses
Viruses attack via the operating system. These cameras aren't running under Windows, or any other high level OS. This whole thing makes as much sense as giving a microwave oven a virus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] What about when you take the memory card out and download to a computer? Dave
RE: DSLRs and viruses
How do you know it was a virus? Cell phones are designed to be programmable, because they have to be configured for a particular user and service provider. There are programs, and supporting hardware, designed to clone phones in case the old one is damaged, or just to upgrade. Also, anyone who knows the right key sequences can access many of a phone's programmable fields via the key pad. (Did this all the time when testing cell systems.) It's not hard to render a cell phone useless. So what exactly was wiped by this virus? BR -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I had a Nokia phone that was wiped with a virus.
RE: D1s review
It's because Pentax can't make any money selling a DSLR. The amount of costthat would need to be amortized over the relatively short product life of a DSLR, and the small number of units that Pentax can sell would make the cost of the camera very high.There will be fewer manufacturers of interchangeable lens DSLRs than there are SLRs. This is exactly what happened in the past when major technologies like AE and AF (which depended on enabling technologies like electronics and advanced manufacturing techniques) became wide spread. Don't expect to see DSLRs from Pentax or Minolta. BR -Original Message-From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I can't see why Pentax wouldn't incorporate dSLR into their lineup when they think, both, that they can make a profit on it AND still make it a great value for their customers. Dan Scott
Heard it from a rep...
Now, as most of you know, I put quotes related to I heard it from a rep... in the same category as fortunes in fortune cookies, but people seem to be big fans of them anyway. So, I got this from the Nikon list (which can take a lickin' but keep on tickin' - sorry Doug): FYI, I went to a talk by a Canon Professional Sales Rep and she told us that the current top of the line Cannon film camera was the last Professional camera from Canon to use film. She also said that a new Rebel camera to be released shortly would be the last film camera in this segment of the market. She said that Canon's digital cameras are selling much faster than film cameras and that their plant is going 24X7 to meet demand.
Re: New Pentax Product's/Photokina
Nikon had a few things, like the 70-200 VR/AF-S finally going on sale and a few PS digis. Nikon did release a new DSLR this year at PMA. It seems to be a combination of Nikon being more interested in PMA (they sell more in NA) and them announcing new products when they have them. In many ways the Kodak full frame DSLR is just as good for Nikon's business as them introducing their own. As much as Nikon fans want all sorts of new stuff right now (!), there is less real concern, because Nikon will sooner or later come out with what they need/want. From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's certainly odd. It's possibly even weirder that Nikon didn't show anything. Anyone on any Nikon mailing lists? I'd expect they're wondering why Nikon didn't announce a full-frame digital SLR, especially after Canon and Kodak (with a Nikon lens mount) did. What's the speculation from the Nikon fanatics out there?
RE: New Pentax Site
Sorry. I guess I forgot to mention that you also have to chant, Only from the minds of Minolta as you consume a fifth of rum. From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still don't seem 'em! You LIED to me Bruce, and now I'm going to cry.
Re: New Pentax Product's/Photokina
Just freeze the one you folks already have. Call it the Pentax Pie, and then trot out the same thing show after show. BR From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well Bruce, I think we will have to prepare another pie for you and wait until next year's PMA ;-)
RE: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #234
If you can't buy it, it isn't a product. The next thing you'll be telling us is that Pentax made the DSLR, makes more DSLRs than any one else and is the market leader. Until I can buy one in BH, it's as much a product as a cruise trip to Pluto is. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, the pentax digital slr was manufactured but not marketed. There are many units in daily use in Japan by photographers with Pentax connection. The production line is in place and test production was started.
RE: Pentax at Photokina
And entertainment was provided by Elvis, who jumped out of the safe. Oh yes, they are also digital selling bridges. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some interesting(?) tidbits from the Pentax universe I have no idea about the contents of this safe is but it's believed it's not the digital K-mount slr. After all, that one is not that secret (probably already on the distributors order list)
RE: OT-Test.
It's easy, you just tell us where you've seen Elvis, Judge Crater or DB Cooper field testing a Pentax DSLR, and I get hit in the face with a pie. Welcome aboard. BR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry about this, I have just subscribed and I'm trying to figure out how it all works. Handmaid
RE: photokina report
Roland used to take part in this forum, and was always a big Pentax flag waver. For people living near the Artic Circle, Pentax releasing new products is an article of faith; like the sun will come back. From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Roland Mabo - on Photozone.de
Re: Even Pal is ready to jump ship
No, No, you're nowhere near the edge of the cliff, plenty of room behind you, step back! From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get a 500/4 IS and stand a couple feet further back...
Re: Pentax AutoFocus / Consumer Fast Film
I was missing loads of shots the same way you were. This resulted in my wanting to get a body with better AF. The fact that Pentax didn't look like it was ever going to come out with world class AF (which it still hasn't) was one of the major factors for deciding to switch brands. I can't comment on all entry/lower lever camera AF performance, since I haven't tried them all. Also, a lot of the AF performance is dependent on the AF focus motor, so I'll bet you can get pretty zippy AF out of a Rebel/HSM lens combo. From what I do know, the AF of the N80 performance is a bit better than a ZX and much more flexible. With the F100 it's, Ah, the promise of AF fulfilled. I still own, and like, Pentax MF gear. I find the current day Pentax Co., and their AF line up, to be a combination of idiosyncratic and lame. BR From: Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... is that indeed why you made the switch to another brand as someone else has mentioned. Though I can't figure out why you still hang around here (okay, maybe I can...) I'm guessing that this brand switch has worked out for you in that respect (?)... That is, does your opinion differ from that of Chris when he mentioned that, AF performance from entry level cameras sucks? Same general consensus? TIA, - jerome
RE: favourite photos
Sorry, more confusion. This forum is for the discussion of Pentax non-products. If it was about actual products there would be only 3 posts a week. BR From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought that this forum was for the discussion of Pentax products and the various aspects of photography in general.
RE: Pentax AutoFocus / Consumer Fast Film
Look, I didn't start with the foul language, making jokes about the Pope or the Royals. If I've incited the kiddies to bedlam, I promise not to address members of the peanut gallery anymore. BR From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think this has gone too far now!
Re: Pentax AutoFocus / Consumer Fast Film
Which Nikon body do you own, or have had the long term use of? Or is this just another of Pal's I'll make up anything to defend Pentax. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nikon is no better than Pentax except being quiter.
Re: Pentax prifit/loss
You don't know, you don't care. You just make crap up to suit your needs. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't bother to search it up even if I may still have it (somewhere) in my in-box.
Re: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)
Cite a reference, with more validity than everybody knows or told to me by a local Pentax rep, that has unit sales of SLRs. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax is on par with Minolta
RE: Looking Pro
I have to keep this in mind for Halloween and my 9 year old needs a costume. From: a recent post Everyone thought I looked like a real pro when I taped a reflector board to my flash!
Re[4]: Who here would really pay the price for a DSLR
Better than that it's only once every 2 years. Of course, that does mean that in 2 years the speculation will be if Pentax shows up at all. From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Relax, Photokina is only once an year .
Re: Used lens prices (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)
And this helps a SLR shooter how? Who cares how well a company does if it doesn't sell what you want to buy? Wanna see the pop up flash of my PS Hasselblad? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] theres no way a company will loose out for missing the slr boat. 99% (or similar) of camera sales are PS. And in the upper part of the PS marlet Pentax has been a market leader for 15 years. Hell, they invented the zoom compact. All camera manufacturers survive on PS sales.
Re: Loyalties (was: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)
No they don't. There is nothing on their web site, and I've spoken to Pentax reps here. It is an official, documented program of Canon and Nikon. There is no support for pros using 35mm Pentax gear in NA: No special programs by the distributors, no places to rent gear and almost no full line dealers. Get the picture? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you telling me they don't do that in North America?
Re: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)
Why not include disposable camera makers too while you're at it? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who's talking about SLR's?
RE: Who here would really pay the price for a DSLR - OT Nikon digression
Only if you like shooting wide open: no aperture ring. From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can any of the G lenses be used on the FM3A? It *is* a neat camera.
Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600
I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to wished, that Pentax would sell a DSLR. People who have a need for digital have, and will, find other solutions. I don't expect any major, or long term, effect on the Pentax used equipment market. BR From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Who's mad enough to sink s in glass Pentax will no longer support in digital? I guess that soon after Photokina we'll see on ebay an avalanche of Pentax items at derisory prices. Not that it makes me happy...
RE: Favourite Photo's
No pepper was ever made famous by having Ansel Adams take its picture. From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams
RE: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)
I think you left out the bit where they mumble, when the time is right. This is a code phrase for, three weeks after pigs fly. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] People seriously thought so because Pentax have officially stated that they intend to manufacture K-mount digital slr's. I'll still think so until they state otherwise.
RE: Photos of new Sigmas
If they think that they can sell enough, then it is worth it. For Pentax (I haven't bought anything new in 20 years!) why bother. Right now IS and HSM are in the realm of rumor for Pentax: a patent is not a product announcement. Minolta announced 3 lenses quite some time ago with their version of HSM, and they aren't out yet. When/if they are actually put them on sale then Sigma will probably offer these features in Minolta mount. The fact that Minolta hasn't started selling them yet should tell you something about Minolta's priorities. From: Rob Brigham They need to wait for the Pentax to be released before they can backwards engineer it. Do I read this right that this means Sigma now have IS for their own bodies too? It must have been some work to backwards engineer both Nikon and Canon systems...
RE: more Photkina information
Care to make a little wager? I bet Pentax doesn't show any DSLR that goes on sale this year. From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether we get a D-SLR soon or not, only time will tell. We can still hope. Without hope the world would be a poorer place. You try to destroy our hope with no basis of fact from which to speak.
Re: Organ Myths -- The Finale? :)
Don't worry, your investment is secure. Pentax comes out with way more patents than products. A big announcement from Pentax might be that they will begin selling black Limited Edition lenses in the US. From: Brad Dodo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Had I known (if our speculations are correct :)) that there would be a higher model coming out shortly, I would never have bought the MZ-S or its accessories.
RE: Pentax at Photokina - where to watch?
A good, general, imaging news site is here: http://www.photointer.com Make sure you look at statistics here: http://www.photointer.com/pageset/Statistics1.html From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] In anticipation of Photokina, where would listers recommend to keep an eye on? Are there any decent news sites or official sites that one could check regularly in the run up to announcements about new gear? What's your take on this?
Forwards and backwards (was Re: Pentax flashes / changing platforms)
The concept of forwards and backwards compatibility is only intelligible if everyone uses the terms in a similar manner. Backwards compatibility is generally understood to mean being able to use new accessories (lenses, flashes, etc.) on old cameras. Forwards compatibility is old accessories on new cameras. Then there is mechanical and electrical information interface compatibility. There can be good mechanical compatibility (mount the thing), but crummy functionality (flash will no longer work in TTL mode, lens supports limited metering, etc.) Pentax has good mechanical forward compatibility of lenses: screw to K (with adaptor), but poor backwards - K to screw. The flashes have good forwards compatibility, but poor backwards. Aperture coupling issues in newer cameras is the same can of worms that Nikon has (aside from G lenses which are much worse). Nikon lens mount, mechanical, backwards compatibility (one has to be very specific here) is perfect: the latest Nikon lens can be physically mounted (without damage) to their first SLR. Forwards and functional lens compatibility is much messier (but I do manage to use a single set of lenses, with full functionality, across MF and AF bodies). Nikon flash compatibility (both ways) is excellent: their latest TTL flash can be used on the first body that had TTL flash, retain TTL flash and visa versa. From: Christopher Lillja (and severely limited backwards compatibility in the Nikon system, and now forward compatibility, with the debut of the G series lenses, unuseable on MF bodies).
RE: photokina rumors
Canon does (develops) their own sensors ; a company that size can. They may even do their own fab. Nikon doesn't buy off the shelf parts. Kodak will probably come out with a new DCS camera. I would be amazed if Pentax came out with anything more sophisticated than a DZLR. From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did wonder if this was the sensor for the 1Ds, but that is apparently a CMOS, so this must be going elsewhere... (plse Pentax???)
Re: Orgin Myths
The K1000 was/is the student camera (in NA). If you spend any time at any of the other photography sites/mailing lists, you will see and endless number of, I started with a K1000, and really loved it, then moved on to brand xyz. I suspect that the US and Canadian Pentax distributors tried to make Asahi Optical aware of the situation, and were ignored. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On what do you base that statement? I'm not disputing it (I really don't know if it's true or not), but I'm very curious as to how you arrive at it. thanks, frank
Re: Orgin Myths
You're becoming almost as much fun as Suda Myfoot. From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must ask what is your point.
RE: Orgin Myths
What is missing from this thread are the reasons why folks left Pentax for other brands (for rather other obvious reasons - they're not here). What it generally comes down to is that people have made substantial investments in their system that are satisfactory for what they are doing. So long as you are getting the results you want then you have the right brand. When you are not getting the results you want, and it can be fixed with some technology, other companies have more solutions. From: Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, it's much more interesting to hear why people made a *conscious* decision to use one or another kind of equipment (as oposed to having inherited it). But I was wrong in my initial judgement -- seems like lots of people here did make that choice, and I saw some very good reasons. Now if only someone from Pentax marketing were listening... Best, Mishka
Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Volume. Actually, Canon does make money selling cameras: http://www.photointer.com/pageset/page16.html Camera segment sales were ¥211,392 million, up 20.8%. Silver-based photographic cameras are cited as continuing to decrease due to market tilt toward digital cameras and low pricing of silver-based cameras. Canon brought in 7 new digital cameras to strengthen its IXY and PowerShot lines. Digital video camera sales in the United Sates and in other markets are said selling well. Segment sales accounted for 13% of total company sales. Earnings on sales were ¥28,055 million, up 83.3%. Camera sales that stood at ¥211,392 million for the first half of the fiscal year were 34% by silver-based cameras, 45% by digital still cameras and 23% by video cameras. From: Robert Woerner Remember, Canon and Nikon lose money on their digital cameras(how the heck do they stay in business anyway??).
Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Aside from Minolta users, no one cared, because it was a Minolta. The same thing would be true for a flagship Pentax. Pentax will never recover the RD costs, let alone make a profit, on a hot snot film SLR. The whole film SLR market is shrinking due to digital. It will go from single digit to double digit negative growth as the DSLRs get better and cheaper. The window of opportunity for new world class (as opposed to boutique class) SLRs closed 4 years ago. Anyone trying to make a case for Pentax coming out with a new high end body and line of lenses is a strong candidate for psychotropic drugs. From: Pål Jensen But for Minolta theirs never was a flagship. It was just a boosted up mid-line model without much, or any, technology or feature not available elsewhere in the line-up. Hence, hardly anyone noticed. However, features like IS and USM may be developed for a flagship but lower end models will take advantage of it as well. Theres no doubt that if IS and USM can be used with the MZ-S it's sales will increase as well.
Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?
Maybe yes, maybe no. It doesn't matter. The operative term here was pro: one who earns all or most of their income from photography. From: Pieter Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, but don't those hobbyists get paid for those postcards? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?
Now features are a big deal. Toy batteries. Almost useless BIF. Low max Sync speed. Another AF sensor, which is great because the AF sensor selector sucks. The F100 is a performance body, not some cute, boutique toy. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] But this is wrong. It's amazing how a slightly slower fps rate and max shutter speed clouds the cameras appearance in some peoples eyes. The MZ-S has more features than the F100. Some of them includes a data back, exposure dataimprinting, built in flash, more AF points, mirror lock etc. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?
Pentax may have shown the first Japanese SLR, but Nikon was selling them first. This is in the same general vein of, if you want patents, prototypes and smoke go to Pentax, if you want stuff you can buy, go somewhere else. Just to avoid any confusion, Nikon had already established themselves with pros with their rangefinder cameras years before any Japanese comany was selling SLRs. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce wrote: By the time the Pentax put its first SLR on sale, Nikon (which had already been selling SLRs) was already established as a pro brand. If this correct most history book must be rewritten. As far as I know, Pentax (Asahi) made the first japanese slr. Pal - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?
There's about 17 pro landscape photographers in the world (and they make their money selling books to hobiests on how to be pro landscape/nature photographers). So, to a first order approximation there is no such thing. You can go off on whatever semantic tangents you'd like to, but in the world where people earn their living shooting 35mm, still photographs, with SLRs they all pretty much use Canon and Nikon, couldn't care less what Pentax does now or will do next. BR From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exactly. But which pro? The type of equipment desirable to wedding photographers is usually very different from what pro landscape photographers use, and what studio photographers use, etc. etc. You can talk about pro equipment as it relates to these fields individually, but it's not very useful as a *general* term. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: The Press Photographer ?
If it's big, black and has a big flash people think press/pro. Brand names mean something to other photographers, but not most people (if they are even close enough to read the name). If you really want to push the image, get a motor drive and a flash bracket. People will be so impressed that they will turn away/hide their faces when they see you coming. Maybe you'll get really lucky and have someone threaten to punch your lights out. BR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most of the booths that I walked up to took one look at the flash with the lumiquest bouncer and immediately asked if I was with the press or media. This was never asked when I did not have the flash on the camera. Other comments included things like whoa .. that's some camera you got there! but this was again, due to the bouncer and 283 being on the camera. Is it due to the 283 and bouncer that people felt that I may have been a press photographer ? The 283 @ 90degrees and the bouncer on top added significant height to the LX and that made it far more pronounced. It made me ponder this because NO ONE mentioned or asked why I wasn't using a N*k*n or C*n*n camera. They also never mentioned wow!! a Pentax!!... just sort of made me think that perhaps it's not so much about the actual gear but the perception that it gives off. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Windoze 2000 features: End of Rant
Enough already. The original question had nothing to do with why your life is miserable with PC's, and everyone should buy a Mac. If you can contribute some first hand, relevant information about what was asked, fine. If you want to rant and rave about OS's, take it to an appropriate forum. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
People can't see electrons so they equate it with magic pixie dust. No one in their right mind trusts magic dust. From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope - electronics are more reliable. The current electronic consumer grade SLRs are incredibly reliable - there was a test in Chasseurs d?Images (F) magazine a couple of years ago. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
