Re: OT: Cheating in Scrabble?
Dan, thanks for posting... I've been out of touch with the tourney scene, and especially that across the pond... I heard it briefly mentioned on the radio this morning and called afirend to find out who it was. I played Allen in 1988 at the North American championship in Reno. He won by about 30 points (no I didn't remember, I looked it up.) I'd hate to think the allegations were true... sometimes the accusers are a bit overzealous when they are losing. Good thing I dont play in tourneys now I can't even hold the bag up at arms length and shoulder height. ann On 11/18/2017 5:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: EUROPE <https://www.nytimes.com/pages/world/europe/index.html> Spelling Trouble: Did a Scrabble Champion Cheat? By ALAN COWELL <https://www.nytimes.com/by/alan-cowell>NOV. 14, 2017 C <https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/world/europe/uk-scrabble-cheat.html#story-continues-1>Save Photo Allan Simmons, right, competing in the final of the 2013 British national Scrabble tournament, which he won. CreditRex Features, via Associated Press LONDON — Tongues are wagging across the world of competitive Scrabble. Allan Simmons, one of the game’s top-billed British players, has been barred from tournaments for three years after an inquiry concluded he had broken the rules of the word game. Mr. Simmons, a former British Scrabble champion who has written several books about the game, was accused of putting a hand with freshly drawn letter tiles back into a bag to draw more favorable tiles. Mr. Simmons has denied wrongdoing. The punishment, imposed by the Association of British Scrabble Players, made headlines in Britain. Yet many organizers of tournaments where a fluency with words may spell victory or defeat seemed to tilt toward reticence on Tuesday. For a game played in the glare of open competition, its inner machinations were more opaque. “For some unknown reason, I don’t think they want it to be public,” Len Moir, a tournament organizer in the English Midlands, said of the accusations against Mr. Simmons. “He is such a high-profile player.” * * Advertisement Continue reading the main storyNicky Huitson, who is overseeing the Broadstairs Seaside Special in southern England next year, said the ban was “not very positive for the game, and that’s why most of us don’t want to talk about it.” <https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/14/world/europe/uk-scrabble-cheat.html#story-continues-2> When the news of the ban broke on Monday in The Times of London, Elie Dangoor, a leading figure in the Association of British Scrabble Players, said in a statement that Mr. Simmons had been “a huge part of the game’s development,” adding, “There’s no one person bigger than the game.” The tournament rules require players to show opponents their empty hands before they draw letter tiles from a cloth bag, so that they cannot be accused of dropping unfavorable letters back in. The bag is also supposed to be held at shoulder height, to prevent players from peeking at the tiles. Mr. Simmons, 60, could not be reached for comment on the accusations against him. But he told The Times of London that he had suffered the same “untimely bad luck from the bag as anyone else.” Mr. Simmons had written a weekly column for the The Times of London, but the newspaper said on Monday that he would “no longer be a contributor.” The Scrabble group’s inquiry began with a complaint about Mr. Simmons’s behavior in the British Masters tournament last June. The organizers of the 2016 Scottish Masters tournament then came forward with similar allegations. “The natural conclusion had been that he had been cheating,” Mr. Dangoor said. The inquiry into the complaints against Mr. Simmons ended several weeks ago, but news of the ban only recently reached a wider audience. This is not the first cheating scandal in competitive Scrabble. In 2012, at a major tournament in Orlando, Fla., a young man confessed to pocketing blank tiles <http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/sports/scrabble-community-rocked-by-cheating-at-tournament.html> — the game’s wild cards — in an attempt to cheat. His name was not released because he was under the age of 18. “It’s easy to poke fun at Scrabble, but people who play it competitively take it very seriously,” Stefan Fatsis, author of the book “Word Freak,” <http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/26/books/zo-qi-doh-hoo-qursh.html> about competitive Scrabble, said at the time. “The community prides itself on integrity and honesty and sportsmanship.” In the latest episode, Lewis Mackay, a Scrabble player who filed a complaint against Mr. Simmons, used a Facebook post last week to publish an excerpt from an email he had sent to the organizers of the British Masters <https://www.facebook.com/notes/lewis-mackay/cheating-incident/10155729771243604/>. It read: “On Sunday, at the Masters tournament, I witn
Re: Cheating
OF COURSE ! On a daily basis I use; Ford Nokia Mr. Coffee Timex On an as needed basis, I use; Smith Wesson Winchester Remington DeWalt Craftsman :) just couldn't resist, Robert Payne ... On 21 Oct 2001 at 1:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi, On 21 Oct 2001 at 1:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use: - Kiev88 with 3.5/45, 2.8/80 and 2.8/150. (also have a 4.5/300 and 3.5/65, for sale) - Ricoh 500GX rangefinder - the family's Canon Prima Mini II Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Gabor, I've always wanted to hear from someone who actually used a Kiev88 and get their opinion since I have frequently considered purchasing one. I've often heard, though, of serious reliability issues with them and wanted to get the input of someone with hands-on experience. I'd love to have your opinion. Since this is considerably OT for this list if you want to reply off list just write me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sas Gabor Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheating Hi, On 21 Oct 2001 at 1:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use: - Kiev88 with 3.5/45, 2.8/80 and 2.8/150. (also have a 4.5/300 and 3.5/65, for sale) - Ricoh 500GX rangefinder - the family's Canon Prima Mini II Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Minolta 16's (was: Cheating)
I was lucky enough to find a film cartridge from 1980 at my parents' house. Film sources can be found at www.subclub.org I don't have the patience yet to buy 16mm bulk film and load it. I used my QT when I was a kid on a vacation to Peru and Mexico. It was a great shooter. I wanted to use it again (20 years later!) as a very pocketable PS and alternative to my auto-everything and brick-like IQ120. Then I found out about how hard it is to get film... and then batteries I'm saving for a Minox B! Christian Skofteland -Original Message- From: Frank Theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi, Christian, I may have told you this already, but I just bought a Minolta 16II on eBay (it's been three weeks now, and the thing still hasn't arrived yet...). I expect to have problems finding film - I don't even know if it has a cassette in it (probably not). If you ever find film or cassettes for yours, lemme know where. I may need to exploit the same source. thanks, frank Skofteland, Christian wrote: I have a Minolta 16 QT that I've used in the past. I just need to get film for it which is a nightmare. Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi, Aaron, Yeah, that's what it takes. Minolta used to sell it in cassettes that looked much like 110 cassettes. They stopped doing that about 10 years ago. So my problem won't be finding the rolled film, but a cassette (either with or without old film in it), so that I can load the cassettes myself. I've seen guys trying to sell loaded cassettes on eBay (obviously expired film) for around $25US plus shipping - and getting it. That's twice what I paid for the camera! Once I find a cassette, getting the film won't be a problem. Thanks anyway. regards, frank Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Monday, October 22, 2001, at 04:55 PM, Frank Theriault wrote: I may have told you this already, but I just bought a Minolta 16II on eBay (it's been three weeks now, and the thing still hasn't arrived yet...). I expect to have problems finding film - I don't even know if it has a cassette in it (probably not). If you ever find film or cassettes for yours, lemme know where. I may need to exploit the same source. What kind of film does it take? Isn't it rolled 16mm? If it is, I can point you towards some Toronto sources of 25 and 100 foot rolls of bw. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Yashica Electro 35 - was: Vs: Cheating
Hi Frank! It is a nice (but heavy) camera and the lens is very good. The electronics cannot be repaired but you can always find another one. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 22. lokakuuta 2001 23:32 Aihe: Re: Yashica Electro 35 - was: Vs: Cheating Hi, Raimo, Yeah, I know you can pretty much figure out the shutter speed with the method you mention. Thats what I've been doing, and it works acceptably well for what I've been using the camera for. My point simply was that I would prefer a manual override, or at least some sort of indicator in the viewfinder or somewhere as to what the shutter speed is. No big deal, though. For what I paid for it, I am more than happy with the results I've been getting. As for the poor man's Leica thing, well, that wasn't from me. A lovely camera (for the price) it may be, but it ain't no Leica! I am a poor man though... :-) regards, frank Raimo Korhonen wrote: If you want a specific shutter speed it is not that difficult to get: overexposure is over 1/500 and shake warning is under 1/30 - so watch when one of those illuminates and adjust aperture the required number of stops. I tested one a couple of years back for the Finnish magazine and the lens is really good. But poor man´s Leica is the Canonet GIII. All the best! Raimo -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheating
Yes, I do. A Canon G-III QL17 ismy rangefinder of choice. Also, the 4x5. Just upgraded lenses from a mid-50s Schneider Symmar 135/4.7 to a mid-70s Schneider Xenar 150/4.5. Multi-coated. Looking forward to some shooting this week-end. Going with the son on a drive down into the W. Va. mountains Fri. ev. Sat., barring bad weather. Collin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use Olympus mju:2 (Stylus Epic) quite Often. I also own Canonet GIII-QL17 rangefinder and russian made Zenit 11 SLR and Ljubitel MF TLR. Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Kiev 60 ( 5 lenses) Minolta Maxxum 9 (all my pro lenses are for this) Minolta Maxxum 700si (2) (backups or alternate films) Minolta RD-175 (digital 35mm body) (have to practice till a newer Pentax/Minolta body comes out) Fuji MX-1200 (pocket digital) Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cheating Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Cheating
If you want a specific shutter speed it is not that difficult to get: overexposure is over 1/500 and shake warning is under 1/30 - so watch when one of those illuminates and adjust aperture the required number of stops. I tested one a couple of years back for the Finnish magazine and the lens is really good. But poor man´s Leica is the Canonet GIII. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Frank Theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 22. lokakuuta 2001 12:52 Aihe: Re: Cheating You're right , J.C. It is big. And it has no manual override. In fact, one doesn't even let you know what the shutter speed is! Just a red light for over 1/500 and yellow for under 1/30. A drawback for sure, but the lens makes up for it, imho. And, the price was right... regards, frank J. C. O'Connell wrote: I HAVE ONE. TOO BIG AND IT AUTOEXPOSURE ONLY. YUK. JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Archer Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheating Try a Yashica Electro 35 GSN ($20 on ebay). It was made about 1973 with a super sharp f:1.7 45mm lens. I got one and I am having a blast with it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I have an Efina that I'll sometimes throw into my suitcase when I'm going somewhere new on a business trip. If I see something I'd like to explore more, I can return with my ZX-5n and gear. My younger son has been experimenting with the Efina and BW APS film with good results. I'm thinking of getting him a ZX-M if he expresses interest. _ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I have a Minolta 16 QT that I've used in the past. I just need to get film for it which is a nightmare. Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Mike, Have you tried the new Epson Color Life paper? It's a semigloss that also is supposedly quite archivable. Bill, KG4LOV JCO wrote: What else are you guys using? I currently use an ME Super with a 50/1.4 M, Tri-X developed in D-76 1+1, and a Carl Zeiss S-Orthoplanar 60mm f/4 enlarging lens, and an Olympus C-3040z digital p/s with a 35-105mm f/1.8-2.6 lens, printed on a Canon S800 on Epson Archival Matte paper. --Mike P.S. This will doubtless change soon... :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re: Cheating
That's a good idea. Keeps them from cross-breeding. Collin --- jeepgirl p.s. It's not cheating if they are in different zip codes right? So the bronica's stay at mom and dad's and the Pentax's are all at my place. Different towns. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi, Christian, I may have told you this already, but I just bought a Minolta 16II on eBay (it's been three weeks now, and the thing still hasn't arrived yet...). I expect to have problems finding film - I don't even know if it has a cassette in it (probably not). If you ever find film or cassettes for yours, lemme know where. I may need to exploit the same source. thanks, frank Skofteland, Christian wrote: I have a Minolta 16 QT that I've used in the past. I just need to get film for it which is a nightmare. Christian Skofteland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Monday, October 22, 2001, at 04:55 PM, Frank Theriault wrote: I may have told you this already, but I just bought a Minolta 16II on eBay (it's been three weeks now, and the thing still hasn't arrived yet...). I expect to have problems finding film - I don't even know if it has a cassette in it (probably not). If you ever find film or cassettes for yours, lemme know where. I may need to exploit the same source. What kind of film does it take? Isn't it rolled 16mm? If it is, I can point you towards some Toronto sources of 25 and 100 foot rolls of bw. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On 21 Oct 2001, at 1:26, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? In regular service along side the Pentax kit is a stash of Leica M gear and a Mamiya 7II, I used to shoot Contax SLR and G kits but have now limited myself to Pentax on the SLR side of things. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Glad that you asked! I have: Rolleiflex F3.5 TLR Canonet G III Rollei 35S Leica M6 that I use - plus some that I do not use that much. As I have written before, now when I got the 24-90 I have mostly used it with MZ-5n or ME. Tried it on LX but it is very hard to focus on its plain focusing screen. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. lokakuuta 2001 6:46 Aihe: Cheating Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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lets see: Voigtlander Perkeo II Rollei Honeywell 35 (tessar lens) Rollei 35 (schneider-kreuznach lens) Minox 35 G Sony Digital Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Just occasionally: Rolleicord vB Fed 4L but I really,really am a Pentaxian! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Sunday, October 21, 2001 3:27 PM, J. C. O'Connell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi, Contax RXs Leica M3 Polaroid Ricoh GR-1 --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 21, 2001, 6:26:51 AM, you wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Cheating
Hi, I cannot seem to get used to the M6. that's interesting. I've really grown to like my M3 quite quickly and now use it more than any other camera. I have a 50mm Summicron and a 35mm Summilux. The M3s 50mm framelines and the perspective through the viewfinder are really wonderful and well suited to street photography of the type you do so well. I've found that the psychology of carrying this camera and lens around is far more productive for street photography than any other lens or SLR. Because of the way the framelines work, looking through the viewfinder is like looking at the proscenium arch of a theatre stage, rather than the cinema screen of an SLR. Probably the main difference I've found shooting with this as opposed to an SLR is that I can't fire of a whole sequence of shots because I don't have a winder, so I have to be more careful about decided when to press the shutter. With an SLR I work around an active subject making a lot of sketch-like exposures, keeping the camera to my eye so that it feels as though I'm watching a movie and pressing the button is like blinking at the appropriate moment. With the M3 though the camera is up to my eye, down, up to my eye, down etc. I feel more like an uninvolved observer. Cartier Bresson said that Chim used his cameras the way a doctor uses his stethoscope, and somehow using the M3 has more of that sense of detachment for me. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 21, 2001, 9:10:55 AM, you wrote: Leica M6, with 50 Summicron and Russian 35 and 85 lenses. I cannot seem to get used to the M6. I'm too slow to focus the rangefinder, and sometimes I just forget it's not the MX and think that if what I see is in focus the picture will also be. The other day I spent about one hour taking the last 20 shots of a roll, walking around chinatown in San Francisco. When I finished, I pulled out the MX with K30/2.8 and then K85/1.8 and shot a roll and a half in 30 minutes, in the same two or three blocks I had been walking around with the M6. I guess I have to keep practicing with the Leica, but don't want to give up the MX. I also have a whole bunch of other cameras, like a nice Canonet QL17, a couple of Russian rangefinders, Russian Lubitels 6x6 TLRs, some Kodak Brownies, etc. More cameras than I need, like most of us. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Well - as the ancient Chinese say: A great number of exposures does not a great picture make. But with a little practice you will be able to shoot a roll and a half in less than two minutes - even with a Leica without a winder. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. lokakuuta 2001 9:31 Aihe: Re: Cheating snip I cannot seem to get used to the M6. I'm too slow to focus the rangefinder, and sometimes I just forget it's not the MX and think that if what I see is in focus the picture will also be. The other day I spent about one hour taking the last 20 shots of a roll, walking around chinatown in San Francisco. When I finished, I pulled out the MX with K30/2.8 and then K85/1.8 and shot a roll and a half in 30 minutes, in the same two or three blocks I had been walking around with the M6. I guess I have to keep practicing with the Leica, but don't want to give up the MX. snip Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Leica CL Apple Quicktake 150! Er, that's it. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use always: Yashica T5 (T4 super) quite often: Nikon FM2n Nikon F70 (N70) Nikon F601 (N6006) not quite often: Nikon F2 Nikon FE2 Kiev 4am Kiev 4m Fed 3 Fed 5b Zorki 6 Yashica T4 Almost never Iskra (russian 6x6 folding rangefinder). Contax IIa (I'm selling this one... I'm going to regret this) There should be somethign else for sure, but I cannot recall everything at the moment and I suspect that what I didn't list is what I never use. Gianfranco Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? Mostly the Speed Graphic in 4x5. I'll shoot a couple of rolls of 35mm (MX or MZ5n) and 24 sheets of 4x5 in the average portrait sitting. By that time the model has usually had enough and I've usually run out of ideas. None of the garage sales I go to have any Pentax 45s :-) Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I had the old G-III out to the Circleville Pumpkin Festival the other night. Has a wonderful feature that I've never noticed before. WHen using a non-dedicated flash, as I focus @ different distances, It tells me how it's going to adjust the aperture! Such a practical little unit from the Dark Side. Also, I trust your lenses are all black and the 180 is the Super. Does your 80 have the PC connector on a tab or on the body of the lens? Collin From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? snip Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) ... Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I am not if favour of cheating. I think it only works if you are open about it, so I informed my Pentax equipment about it and never got a complaint. 35mm lenses: Zenitar 16mm, Tokina 20-35mm, Tamron 90mm f/2.8 Macro, all with Pentax Mount. Mamiya C220 TLR with 80mm and 55mm lens Metz 45CT1 and Metz 40MZ-2 I have a few others that I don't use, just have them for fun. Frits Wüthrich J. C. O'Connell asked us: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I have a Speed Graphic 4x5 with a 127mm Wollensak that I use from time to time. (If I ever get that 4 x 5 enlarger, I'll use it more.) I have a Mamiya TLR as well that I should use more than I do. I have the 80mm and 250mm lenses. Paul J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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A couple of Leicas (M3, M3 with 35mm, 2-50mm, and 90mm lenses) Canon QL17 Olymus 35mm SLR gear is coming soon Sony digital J. C. O'Connell asked: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Shooting a lot of film doesn't make your pictures any better. I'd have to agree pretty much with Bob Walkden's comments wrt shooting with the Leica. It took me a while to get used to the camera - I even used it for a while and became so disgusted with it that I stuck it in the cabinet for almost six months. Now, like Bob, I use it almost every day and find that for street shooting and people pictures it offers a much better view than an SLR. I do seem to have one advantage, and that's that I'm somewhat able to pre-visualize DOF, although I really don't worry or think about it too much. Juan J. Buhler wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? Leica M6, with 50 Summicron and Russian 35 and 85 lenses. I cannot seem to get used to the M6. I'm too slow to focus the rangefinder, and sometimes I just forget it's not the MX and think that if what I see is in focus the picture will also be. The other day I spent about one hour taking the last 20 shots of a roll, walking around chinatown in San Francisco. When I finished, I pulled out the MX with K30/2.8 and then K85/1.8 and shot a roll and a half in 30 minutes, in the same two or three blocks I had been walking around with the M6. I guess I have to keep practicing with the Leica, but don't want to give up the MX. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi Bob ... I'm not quite sure what you mean by detachment. When using the Leica I feel a greater involvement in the situation because the viewfinder allows me to see more - I feel more a part of the scene as opposed to viewing it, as you say, like a movie. Bob Walkden wrote: With the M3 though the camera is up to my eye, down, up to my eye, down etc. I feel more like an uninvolved observer. Cartier Bresson said that Chim used his cameras the way a doctor uses his stethoscope, and somehow using the M3 has more of that sense of detachment for me. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi, Shooting a lot of film doesn't make your pictures any better. Have to disagree with you there, Shel. :o) Personally speaking, the more film I shoot, the better I get. Never heard of a world-class athlete who didn't run a lot of miles (apart from darts players, of course). Never heard of a world-class photographer who didn't shoot a lot of film. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 21, 2001, 2:58:32 PM, you wrote: Shooting a lot of film doesn't make your pictures any better. I'd have to agree pretty much with Bob Walkden's comments wrt shooting with the Leica. It took me a while to get used to the camera - I even used it for a while and became so disgusted with it that I stuck it in the cabinet for almost six months. Now, like Bob, I use it almost every day and find that for street shooting and people pictures it offers a much better view than an SLR. I do seem to have one advantage, and that's that I'm somewhat able to pre-visualize DOF, although I really don't worry or think about it too much. Juan J. Buhler wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? Leica M6, with 50 Summicron and Russian 35 and 85 lenses. I cannot seem to get used to the M6. I'm too slow to focus the rangefinder, and sometimes I just forget it's not the MX and think that if what I see is in focus the picture will also be. The other day I spent about one hour taking the last 20 shots of a roll, walking around chinatown in San Francisco. When I finished, I pulled out the MX with K30/2.8 and then K85/1.8 and shot a roll and a half in 30 minutes, in the same two or three blocks I had been walking around with the M6. I guess I have to keep practicing with the Leica, but don't want to give up the MX. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? Every once in awhile, an OLD, but mint, Agfa Super Solina RF and a GE PR-1 selenium meter. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi all; Yashica T4 Super Rollei 35s (Sonnar) Minolta Autocord Mamiya c330 (55, 80, super 180, all black) I have been wanting a canonet for a while and have thought of a Speed Graphic fondly. Wow, a few TLR's and Rollei 35's floating around this list. dave ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Voigtlander Bessa R Canonet QL 17 GIII Konica Heaxar AF Z1p MZ5n And thinking of upgrading to the MZ-S - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Perhaps I wasn't clear in the way I presented thoughts. You know I shoot a lot of film, and may often shoot a roll or two on just one subject. What I meant is that shooting a lot of film, quickly and without much thought, will not necessarily result in better pictures, just more pictures. A more contemplative approach, regardless of how much film is run through the camera, may well lead to higher quality pictures from the POV of framing, content, and subject matter. Bob Walkden wrote: Shooting a lot of film doesn't make your pictures any better. Have to disagree with you there, Shel. :o) Personally speaking, the more film I shoot, the better I get. Never heard of a world-class athlete who didn't run a lot of miles (apart from darts players, of course). Never heard of a world-class photographer who didn't shoot a lot of film. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi, well, with an SLR viewfinder attached permanently to my left eye all I can see is the scene bounded by the black frame so I'm concentrating exclusively on what's in the frame itself and sometimes feel very involved in it. But with a Leica viewfinder only occasionally attached to my right eye my attention is wandering around outside the framed scene and I am therefore less concentrated on, and hence detached from, the framed scene. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, October 21, 2001, 3:08:49 PM, you wrote: Hi Bob ... I'm not quite sure what you mean by detachment. When using the Leica I feel a greater involvement in the situation because the viewfinder allows me to see more - I feel more a part of the scene as opposed to viewing it, as you say, like a movie. Bob Walkden wrote: With the M3 though the camera is up to my eye, down, up to my eye, down etc. I feel more like an uninvolved observer. Cartier Bresson said that Chim used his cameras the way a doctor uses his stethoscope, and somehow using the M3 has more of that sense of detachment for me. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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mamiya/sekor 500DTL mamiya/sekor 1000DTL RICOH SINGLEX TLS RICOH TLS 401 Praktica Nova 1B Rolleicord 1Vb Hasselblad 500C/M Olympus OM-1, OM-1n, OM-2n Leica M-3 I have systemized all but the Hasselblad for which I do not yet have multiple lenses. Then of course a spectrum of Kodak box, folder, Hawkeye, Instamatic and Instant cameras; Polaroid (variety through recent types) ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cheating Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Daphne wrote: lets see: Voigtlander Perkeo II Rollei Honeywell 35 (tessar lens) Rollei 35 (schneider-kreuznach lens) Minox 35 G Sony Digital Voigtlander Perkeo I Canon AE-1 Program -- Dave Maki Calgary, Alberta - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Would like to add my own experience here: I'd picked up a digital camera for the express purpose of increasing my exposures on a daily basis. Well, I did just that and some 3000 exposures later I can honestly say my keepers have not increased. There goes a seemingly good theory out of the window- in future, I'll be concentrating on making fewer exposures but will spend more time on preparation (lens selection, viewpoint, composition, exposure etc.) for the shot rather than increasing the gross number of shots. RK Raimo Korhonen wrote: Well - as the ancient Chinese say: A great number of exposures does not a great picture make. But with a little practice you will be able to shoot a roll and a half in less than two minutes - even with a Leica without a winder. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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J.C. Like you, I have other equipment. Besides my M-42 ES and ES II's, Ialso shoot Leica, Canon (love my T-90 and EOS RT), Olympus XA, and Canon APS Z360. I have recently begun shooting with an old Yashica D TLR. The 21/4 format is one I want to explore again. Jim A. From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:26:51 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cheating Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 01:26 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? Well, I just sold my Arca Swiss Pro III, so now my only non-Pentax camera is the Barbie Cam, which has gone to Japan with a friend of mine, so I guess I don't really have that, either. Oh, and I gave my Yashica to my Dad. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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How much do you want for the Contax IIa? All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 21. lokakuuta 2001 12:03 Aihe: Re: Cheating snip Contax IIa (I'm selling this one... I'm going to regret this) snip Gianfranco Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Canon S10 digital camera Kodak Bantam 828 Kodak Retina 1 (126) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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A scroll of mail from Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:25:30 +0100 Read it? y Ricoh GR-1 Oh, yeah, I should add to the list my wife's R-1s. It's a tiny rangefinder/PS with a 24mm/30mm lens and AF. Someday I'm going to put a roll of Tri-X in it and put an end to my wife saying that my bigger cameras take better pictures. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hi all, Cheating, I think not, as a tradesman has many tools and never knows from one day to the next which ones he will need to use. When I joined the group, I informed the group what camera gear I use: [So to Update] I have: 2 SPF's, 1 SP Ricoh KR-10(+ Motor Drive) Pentax ME Super Plus a M42 - K adaptor and a stack of Pentax screw lenses. Auto 2 x K-mount convertor. Nikon Photomic FTn (Fantastic - recently aquired) I bike a lot around the local dykes looking for wildlife, so usually carry an SPF and f8 500mm Mirror lens, Ricoh KR-10(+ Motor Drive) and ME Super with a Vivitar f5.5 300mm(+ Auto 2 x K-mount convertor), Velbon CX-440 Tripod + Manfrotto 479B Monopod. Lately I just take the Nikon Photomic FTn, as it's such joy to use!!!. Plus half a dozen assorted roles of film. James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Perhaps I wasn't clear in the way I presented thoughts. You know I shoot a lot of film, and may often shoot a roll or two on just one subject. What I meant is that shooting a lot of film, quickly and without much thought, will not necessarily result in better pictures, just more pictures. A more contemplative approach, regardless of how much film is run through the camera, may well lead to higher quality pictures from the POV of framing, content, and subject matter. When I mentioned how much more film I was able to shoot with the MX I was talking about how confortable I feel with that camera. I certainly do a lot of editing in camera, sometimes more then I should I think. I don't think it is about taking a lot of pictures without thinking. It's just that the more confortable I am with a camera, the less I have to think about it, and the more pictures I shoot. FWIW, the ratio of good pictures was about the same, although the focus was better on the set taken with the Pentax. (I say good pictures, yet probably there wasn't any real keeper in all the pictures I took that day) j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, dave o'brien wrote: Oh, yeah, I should add to the list my wife's R-1s. It's a tiny rangefinder/PS with a 24mm/30mm lens and AF. Someday I'm going to put a roll of Tri-X in it and put an end to my wife saying that my bigger cameras take better pictures. Be careful, this could backfire. How will you able to justify your bigger cameras if they cannot take better pictures than your wife's PS? :-) -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Frank wrote: And, I have a Yashica A tlr that needs a CLA real bad. Wanna get that done, though, just to see how those big negs print up! Just pick up some E-6 film in 120 I've shot some Lumiere 100 through my Yaschica A and it is actually a quite nice little unit - especially at the US$30 it cost me! Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I use Nikon Digital (CP990), Ricoh SLR (XR-2 - but I can use my SMC lenses on it) and a handful of non Pentax lenses (Tokina 400 f5.6, Kiron 105mm f2.8 macro, Sigma 14 f3.5 and 50 f.38 macro)... - MCC At 01:26 AM 10/21/01 -0400, you wrote: Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheating (Yashica Electro 35 - battery?)
Frank or Ken, I just went and dug out my Dad's old camera and flash. The Yashica Electro 35 GS with Rollie E17C flash plus battery was $143.30 CDN in 1973. I think I will give it a try. I have the flash charging now. The manual says the battery for the Yashica was a 5.6v mercury battery, Mallory PX32 or Eveready E164. What battery did you use? Frank Theriault wrote: Hi, I recently bought a Yashica Electro 35 on eBay, and I've been using it quite a bit due to the novelty. It's fun. snip and Ken Archer wrote: Try a Yashica Electro 35 GSN ($20 on ebay). It was made about 1973 with a super sharp f:1.7 45mm lens. I got one and I am having a blast with it. snip Thanks. -- Dave Maki Calgary, Alberta - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Oh and when no-one is looking: Canon Sure Shots (two different ones that my wife calls her own) ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul M. Provencher Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cheating mamiya/sekor 500DTL mamiya/sekor 1000DTL RICOH SINGLEX TLS RICOH TLS 401 Praktica Nova 1B Rolleicord 1Vb Hasselblad 500C/M Olympus OM-1, OM-1n, OM-2n Leica M-3 I have systemized all but the Hasselblad for which I do not yet have multiple lenses. Then of course a spectrum of Kodak box, folder, Hawkeye, Instamatic and Instant cameras; Polaroid (variety through recent types) ppro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cheating Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheating (Yashica Electro 35 - battery?)
And to think I paid about $14 or $15 US on eBay - which seems to be the going price. A great value, I think. Mine came without a battery, and I couldn't find one locally. I finally ended up getting one here: http://www.photobattery.com/PX32.html Got it in the mail in less than a week, and it works just fine. You should pick one up and give the camera a try. I think you'll be pleased with its results. regards, frank Dave Maki wrote: Frank or Ken, I just went and dug out my Dad's old camera and flash. The Yashica Electro 35 GS with Rollie E17C flash plus battery was $143.30 CDN in 1973. I think I will give it a try. I have the flash charging now. The manual says the battery for the Yashica was a 5.6v mercury battery, Mallory PX32 or Eveready E164. What battery did you use? -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheating (Yashica Electro 35 - battery?)
I got mine from the same source. That was the only one I could find. On Sunday 21 October 2001 21:09, Frank Theriault wrote: Mine came without a battery, and I couldn't find one locally. I finally ended up getting one here: http://www.photobattery.com/PX32.html regards, frank Dave Maki wrote: Frank or Ken, I just went and dug out my Dad's old camera and flash. The Yashica Electro 35 GS with Rollie E17C flash plus battery was $143.30 CDN in 1973. I think I will give it a try. I have the flash charging now. The manual says the battery for the Yashica was a 5.6v mercury battery, Mallory PX32 or Eveready E164. What battery did you use? -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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GO FOR THE CANONET QL17 OR AN OLYMPUS SP JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis Pinar Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheating Olympus Stylus Epic (mainly for bike trips). I'm looking for a nice '60s or '70s rangefinder with fast lens to do some street photography. Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cheating
I HAVE ONE. TOO BIG AND IT AUTOEXPOSURE ONLY. YUK. JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Archer Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheating Try a Yashica Electro 35 GSN ($20 on ebay). It was made about 1973 with a super sharp f:1.7 45mm lens. I got one and I am having a blast with it. On Sunday 21 October 2001 17:24, Luis Pinar wrote: Olympus Stylus Epic (mainly for bike trips). I'm looking for a nice '60s or '70s rangefinder with fast lens to do some street photography. Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Cheating
Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? I use the following at time to break up the boredom: Mamiya TLR ( i have all 7 lens sets!) Zeiss folders ( 533 and SI III) Olympus RFs ( SP and RC ) Canon RF ( Canonet QL17) Mamaiya 6X6 folder Rollei 35 Panasonic Digital What else are you guys using? JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheating
I use only Pentax SLRs at the moment, though I would love to have a Leica M6 and/or a Hasselblad. Jim Any of you all use equipment other than Pentax at times? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .