Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
Thanks David (and others). The reason for looking at a conversion is that your view through the finder remains the same which gives you the option to work in lower light conditions. I'd be interested in trying IR flash and I'm not sure whether I'd be able to focus in light that dim (I.e. dim enough that the flash would make a difference). There is one guy on eBay, Isaac Szabo (szabophotograph) who says he can do it for $215 plus postage which seems like a reasonable deal. Of course I'm paying air-mail both ways, but it shouldn't be over the top. The spencerscamera.cm site has a lot of info on it which is helpful in understanding the differences between the various wavelength filters. Paul On 29/09/2010, at 11:51 AM, David Parsons wrote: There are two ways to do it. 1. Buy a converted camera from them that they have already done. 2. Send in your camera to have converted. I know that there is at least one place that converts Pentaxes. There is a guy on PF that had one converted and there used to be a guy that would do it for a couple hundred (haven't seen him around lately). This is an old thread, but the links still work: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3344-pentax-ir-conversion.html#post439667 And the place linked: http://spencerscamera.com/default.aspx -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Someday the cameras will do it themselves and then it won't count as tweaking. ;-) Who's talking about tweaking? -Original Message- From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:05:33 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR David J Brooks wrote: The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW mode, then twweked a bit I hate twweked photographs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
Paul. I paid $250 for my converted G3. Dave On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Thanks David (and others). The reason for looking at a conversion is that your view through the finder remains the same which gives you the option to work in lower light conditions. I'd be interested in trying IR flash and I'm not sure whether I'd be able to focus in light that dim (I.e. dim enough that the flash would make a difference). There is one guy on eBay, Isaac Szabo (szabophotograph) who says he can do it for $215 plus postage which seems like a reasonable deal. Of course I'm paying air-mail both ways, but it shouldn't be over the top. The spencerscamera.cm site has a lot of info on it which is helpful in understanding the differences between the various wavelength filters. Paul On 29/09/2010, at 11:51 AM, David Parsons wrote: There are two ways to do it. 1. Buy a converted camera from them that they have already done. 2. Send in your camera to have converted. I know that there is at least one place that converts Pentaxes. There is a guy on PF that had one converted and there used to be a guy that would do it for a couple hundred (haven't seen him around lately). This is an old thread, but the links still work: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3344-pentax-ir-conversion.html#post439667 And the place linked: http://spencerscamera.com/default.aspx -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
AFAIK you just need a filter to cut out the non-IR HTH Ecke 2010/9/28 Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au: Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers. I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of those as well feel free to do so. thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
Conversions are expensive. Since the sensor sees in the IR, I think all they do is remove the filter that blocks some of the IR. Try a filter like the Hoya 72 which blocks out the other light. The advantage of the conversion is that more IR gets to the sensor. Youc an see http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/infrared/slr.html On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:42 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK you just need a filter to cut out the non-IR HTH Ecke 2010/9/28 Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au: Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers. I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of those as well feel free to do so. thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
I looked it to converting mine a while back, and the places i contacted said they did not do Pentax cameras. Not enough people would buy them to convert. I had a reply typed up but never sent it.:-) I just used a tripod and bought a Hoya R72 filter. It did a really good job. A photo i took at GFM in 2006 earned me a 2nd place in one of the catagories. Dave On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers. I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of those as well feel free to do so. thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
On 28 September 2010 13:02, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: A photo i took at GFM in 2006 earned me a 2nd place in one of the catagories. This might just mean Doug and Mark have a soft spot for IR photography :-) I can only comment on one place that I know that does conversions: http://digitalsilverimaging.com/ir They are close to where I live and I get my BW printing done there. I've talked to the owner, Eric Luden, a few times and he's a really nice bloke. I don't know if they convert Pentaxes or just The Other Brands, but e-mail him and he'll get back to you pretty quickly. Good luck! --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Paul Ewins wrote: Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers. I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of those as well feel free to do so. It's something that I've been thinking of myself. I've experimented with IR and using IR filters over my flash so I can use a flash in a dark room and not blind the dancers. At SFLX I met someone who was shooting with a Fuji IS-1. I just got an email back from him last night http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/is/finepix_is1/index.html Here are a few of the shots he did with it outside. http://rabscuttle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=irscene1008 There are a few ir shots from last year in Sacramento. http://rabscuttle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=saclx09ir There are some in this years mix as well. Nothing too exciting from this event, but a few amusing shots. http://rabscuttle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=20100919sflx I've got a lumix FZ20 that has been converted, but I think he just added a filter, rather than taking the old IR blocking filter off, because using the sunny 16 rule it seems to be about ISO 8. Shots that I got with it are posted here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157606110993706/ Using IR flash and overpowering the weak IR filter on my K100 gave me these shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157603983302091/ The Fuji isn't much more expensive than having a conversion done, and doing it with a point and shoot has the advantage that it will focus with the light that is hitting the sensor. If you focus optically with visible light, you then have to correct for the proper IR focus point. One interesting feature of IR, is that portraits taken in IR tend not to show a lot of the skin blemishes that people have, so some women really like the effect. thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a lumix FZ20 that has been converted, but I think he just added a filter, rather than taking the old IR blocking filter off, because using the sunny 16 rule it seems to be about ISO 8. I bought a converted G3 about 2 years ago from eeekbay. Works pretty well. Some dust got in there when he did the conversion, but i can work around it. The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW mode, then twweked a bit Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
David J Brooks wrote: The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW mode, then twweked a bit I hate twweked photographs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
Someday the cameras will do it themselves and then it won't count as tweaking. ;-) -Original Message- From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:05:33 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR David J Brooks wrote: The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW mode, then twweked a bit I hate twweked photographs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR
There are two ways to do it. 1. Buy a converted camera from them that they have already done. 2. Send in your camera to have converted. I know that there is at least one place that converts Pentaxes. There is a guy on PF that had one converted and there used to be a guy that would do it for a couple hundred (haven't seen him around lately). This is an old thread, but the links still work: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3344-pentax-ir-conversion.html#post439667 And the place linked: http://spencerscamera.com/default.aspx On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:02 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I looked it to converting mine a while back, and the places i contacted said they did not do Pentax cameras. Not enough people would buy them to convert. I had a reply typed up but never sent it.:-) I just used a tripod and bought a Hoya R72 filter. It did a really good job. A photo i took at GFM in 2006 earned me a 2nd place in one of the catagories. Dave On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers. I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of those as well feel free to do so. thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Converting an *ist-D to IR
Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers. I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of those as well feel free to do so. thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.