Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-29 Thread Paul Ewins
Thanks David (and others).  The reason for looking at a conversion is that your 
view through the finder remains the same which gives you the option to work in 
lower light conditions. I'd be interested in trying IR flash and I'm not sure 
whether I'd be able to focus in light that dim (I.e. dim enough that the flash 
would make a difference). There is one guy on eBay, Isaac Szabo 
(szabophotograph) who says he can do it for $215 plus postage which seems like 
a reasonable deal. Of course I'm paying air-mail both ways, but it shouldn't be 
over the top. The spencerscamera.cm site has a lot of info on it which is 
helpful in understanding the differences between the various wavelength 
filters. 

Paul

On 29/09/2010, at 11:51 AM, David Parsons wrote:

 There are two ways to do it.  1.  Buy a converted camera from them
 that they have already done.  2.  Send in your camera to have
 converted.
 
 I know that there is at least one place that converts Pentaxes.  There
 is a guy on PF that had one converted and there used to be a guy that
 would do it for a couple hundred (haven't seen him around lately).
 
 This is an old thread, but the links still work:
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3344-pentax-ir-conversion.html#post439667
 
 And the place linked:  http://spencerscamera.com/default.aspx


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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-29 Thread mike wilson

drd1...@gmail.com wrote:


Someday the cameras will do it themselves and then it won't count as tweaking. 
;-)


Who's talking about tweaking?


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David J Brooks wrote:




The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW
mode, then twweked a bit



I hate twweked photographs.



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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-29 Thread David J Brooks
Paul.

I paid $250 for my converted G3.

Dave

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 Thanks David (and others).  The reason for looking at a conversion is that 
 your view through the finder remains the same which gives you the option to 
 work in lower light conditions. I'd be interested in trying IR flash and I'm 
 not sure whether I'd be able to focus in light that dim (I.e. dim enough that 
 the flash would make a difference). There is one guy on eBay, Isaac Szabo 
 (szabophotograph) who says he can do it for $215 plus postage which seems 
 like a reasonable deal. Of course I'm paying air-mail both ways, but it 
 shouldn't be over the top. The spencerscamera.cm site has a lot of info on it 
 which is helpful in understanding the differences between the various 
 wavelength filters.

 Paul

 On 29/09/2010, at 11:51 AM, David Parsons wrote:

 There are two ways to do it.  1.  Buy a converted camera from them
 that they have already done.  2.  Send in your camera to have
 converted.

 I know that there is at least one place that converts Pentaxes.  There
 is a guy on PF that had one converted and there used to be a guy that
 would do it for a couple hundred (haven't seen him around lately).

 This is an old thread, but the links still work:
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3344-pentax-ir-conversion.html#post439667

 And the place linked:  http://spencerscamera.com/default.aspx


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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread eckinator
AFAIK you just need a filter to cut out the non-IR
HTH
Ecke

2010/9/28 Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au:
 Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing 
 nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had 
 wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to 
 comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a 
 suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs 
 to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers.

 I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to 
 different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of 
 those as well feel free to do so.

 thanks,
 Paul
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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Conversions are expensive.  Since the sensor sees in the IR, I think
all they do is remove the filter that blocks some of the IR.  Try a
filter like the Hoya 72 which blocks out the other light.  The
advantage of the conversion is that more IR gets to the sensor.  Youc
an see

http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/infrared/slr.html

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:42 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 AFAIK you just need a filter to cut out the non-IR
 HTH
 Ecke

 2010/9/28 Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au:
 Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing 
 nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had 
 wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to 
 comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a 
 suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least 
 needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers.

 I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to 
 different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of 
 those as well feel free to do so.

 thanks,
 Paul
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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread David J Brooks
I looked it to converting mine a while back, and the places i
contacted said they did not do Pentax cameras. Not enough people would
buy them to convert.

I had a reply typed up but never sent it.:-)

I just used a tripod and bought a Hoya R72 filter. It did a really
good job. A photo i took at GFM in 2006 earned me a 2nd place in one
of the catagories.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing 
 nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had 
 wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to 
 comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a 
 suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs 
 to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers.

 I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to 
 different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of 
 those as well feel free to do so.

 thanks,
 Paul
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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread Miserere
On 28 September 2010 13:02, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 A photo i took at GFM in 2006 earned me a 2nd place in one
 of the catagories.

This might just mean Doug and Mark have a soft spot for IR photography  :-)

I can only comment on one place that I know that does conversions:

http://digitalsilverimaging.com/ir

They are close to where I live and I get my BW printing done there.
I've talked to the owner, Eric Luden, a few times and he's a really
nice bloke. I don't know if they convert Pentaxes or just The Other
Brands, but e-mail him and he'll get back to you pretty quickly.

Good luck!


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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:

 Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing 
 nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had 
 wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to 
 comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a 
 suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs 
 to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers.
 
 I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to 
 different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of 
 those as well feel free to do so. 

It's something that I've been thinking of myself. I've experimented with IR and 
using IR filters over my flash so I can use a flash in a dark room and not 
blind the dancers.  At SFLX I met someone who was shooting with a Fuji IS-1.  I 
just got an email back from him last night


http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/is/finepix_is1/index.html
Here are a few of the shots he did with it outside.
http://rabscuttle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=irscene1008
There are a few ir shots from last year in Sacramento.
http://rabscuttle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=saclx09ir
There are some in this years mix as well.
Nothing too exciting from this event, but a few amusing shots.
http://rabscuttle.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=20100919sflx


I've got a lumix FZ20 that has been converted, but I think he just added a 
filter, rather than taking the old IR blocking filter off, because using the 
sunny 16 rule it seems to be about ISO 8.

Shots that I got with it are posted here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157606110993706/

Using IR flash and overpowering the weak IR filter on my K100 gave me these 
shots:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157603983302091/

The Fuji isn't much more expensive than having a conversion done, and doing it 
with a point and shoot has the advantage that it will focus with the light that 
is hitting the sensor. If you focus optically with visible light, you then have 
to correct for the proper IR focus point.

One interesting feature of IR, is that portraits taken in IR tend not to show a 
lot of the skin blemishes that people have, so some women really like the 
effect.

 
 thanks,
 Paul
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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I've got a lumix FZ20 that has been converted, but I think he just added a 
 filter, rather than taking the old IR blocking filter off, because using the 
 sunny 16 rule it seems to be about ISO 8.

I bought a converted G3 about 2 years ago from eeekbay. Works pretty
well. Some dust got in there when he did the conversion, but i can
work around it.

The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW
mode, then twweked a bit

Dave

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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread mike wilson

David J Brooks wrote:



The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW
mode, then twweked a bit


I hate twweked photographs.

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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread drd1135
Someday the cameras will do it themselves and then it won't count as tweaking. 
;-)
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David J Brooks wrote:


 The one IR shot on my Markham fair link is with the G3 set in BW
 mode, then twweked a bit

I hate twweked photographs.

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Re: Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-28 Thread David Parsons
There are two ways to do it.  1.  Buy a converted camera from them
that they have already done.  2.  Send in your camera to have
converted.

I know that there is at least one place that converts Pentaxes.  There
is a guy on PF that had one converted and there used to be a guy that
would do it for a couple hundred (haven't seen him around lately).

This is an old thread, but the links still work:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/3344-pentax-ir-conversion.html#post439667

And the place linked:  http://spencerscamera.com/default.aspx

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:02 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I looked it to converting mine a while back, and the places i
 contacted said they did not do Pentax cameras. Not enough people would
 buy them to convert.

 I had a reply typed up but never sent it.:-)

 I just used a tripod and bought a Hoya R72 filter. It did a really
 good job. A photo i took at GFM in 2006 earned me a 2nd place in one
 of the catagories.

 Dave

 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing 
 nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had 
 wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to 
 comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a 
 suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least 
 needs to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers.

 I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to 
 different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of 
 those as well feel free to do so.

 thanks,
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Converting an *ist-D to IR

2010-09-27 Thread Paul Ewins
Since upgrading to a K7 my *ist-D has been sitting in the cupboard doing 
nothing. My GF has a K10D, so I don't need the *ist-D as a backup and had 
wondered about having it converted for IR shooting. Would anyone care to 
comment about their own experiences with conversions and possibly offer a 
suggestion on where to get it done? I live in Australia, so it at least needs 
to be somewhere that is willing to take on international customers.

I'm also aware that there are various types of conversions, i.e. tuned to 
different wavelengths, so if you'd like to comment on the pros and cons of 
those as well feel free to do so. 

thanks,
Paul
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