Re: Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 59

[Fred]

> 2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens.

Albano:

I think what we also need is a "Favorite Third-Party Lens Survey".

1.  Does anyone else agree?

2.  And, would you be willing to sponsor it with your time, Albano?

Fred
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 59

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 166


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (3)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (8)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (2)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (3)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (3)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
F 70-210 4-5.6 (1)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 50

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 112

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (10)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (3)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (5)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (2)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (2)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)
Paterson Acupan 800 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 33

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 24 votes.

Members: 97

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (7)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (2)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (24)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (14)
- ZX5n (3)
- MZ5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (8)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 49

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 111

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (10)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (5)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (2)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (2)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)
Paterson Acupan 800 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 58

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 165


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (3)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (8)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (2)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (3)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (3)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 31

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 24 votes.

Members: 95

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (7)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (2)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (24)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (13)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (8)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 31

[Bill D. Casselberry]

 Aaron wrote:
 
> Did we gain a 6x7 vote?  
> My Brotherhoodical memory is acting up today.

You're on target - though I haven't (I don't think) voted
in the survey - methinks you're picking up etherial transmission
of my virtual vote.

!8^DBill

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http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 49

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 111

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (10)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (5)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (2)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (2)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)
Paterson Acupan 800 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 57

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 164


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (3)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (7)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (2)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (3)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (3)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 31

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 24 votes.

Members: 95

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (7)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (2)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (24)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (13)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (8)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Re[2]: Favorite wide lens?

[Bruce Dayton]

Debra,

I had a K mount Tokina RMC 24/2.8 once.  I liked it fine.  It was
metal and very solid like most Tokina lenses I have encountered.  The
optical quality was reasonably good.  As usual, flare is a bigger
issue with it than a Pentax SMC.  Remember that the wider you go, the
more easy it is to get flare.  But for the price, the Tokina was quite
good.  I think I paid $70 dollars for mine a couple of years ago.


Bruce



Friday, April 26, 2002, 10:57:05 PM, you wrote:

DW> --- "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I just bought a Tokina RMC 24mm F2.8 in M42 a few
>> weeks ago to throw into my "Car Trunk" kit.
>> Excellent
>> lens & well worth the $50 paid. This dates from the 
>> early 80's I think and all metal...
>> JCO
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DW> That might be really close to what I was looking at. 
DW> Do you think the k-mount version would be much
DW> different?

DW> Deb
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RE: Favorite wide lens?

[Debra Wilborn]

--- "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just bought a Tokina RMC 24mm F2.8 in M42 a few
> weeks ago to throw into my "Car Trunk" kit.
> Excellent
> lens & well worth the $50 paid. This dates from the 
> early 80's I think and all metal...
> JCO
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That might be really close to what I was looking at. 
Do you think the k-mount version would be much
different?

Deb
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Frankie Lee]

My favorite wide lens is surely K 28/3.5 if I want to bring only one or two lenses. I 
used it mainly (together with F 50/1.4) during my walk-around tour in England and 
Scotland last year.
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Fred]

Hi, Bob.

> I prefer the FA*24/2.0 for some of the extraordinary picture
> quality it delivers.

I understand.  And you're not alone - there's a lot of PDML-ers that
swear by that lens.  And I suppose that I've got to try it some
time...  (Or, maybe I should give another look at the A 24/2.8, a
lens I no longer have...)

> I have been working with a 'new' (to me) A20/2.8 that I like, but
> results can be a surprise sometimes.  I took the 20mm out after a
> snowfall and captured  some landscapes.  I tried filling the frame
> with the foreground I wanted by  aiming a bit higher to get the
> distractions in front of me out of the frame.   Well, I got them
> out of the frame all right, but look what else happened...
> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/A20mm.jpg
> Takes some practice getting used to this!> The 20mm is much
> like the 15mm.  You must watch to keep it LEVEL.

Heh-heh.  Yes, Bob, 20mm takes a little getting used to.  But that's
because it really ~is~ wide.  Not as wide as the 15/3.5, of course,
but wide enough that shooting requires some care, more than what's
required with a your 24.  But, that's also why I like 20mm more than
24mm - it really ~is~ wide, isn't it?

Now back to your photo - you do have to admit, Bob, that you
~should~ have seen that coming right in the viewfinder, right?  ;-)
(Thanks for sharing - takes guts - you're a better man than I, Bob -
.)

Fred
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RE: Favorite wide lens?

[J. C. O'Connell]

> >Does anyone have opinions on non-Pentax glass in the
> >same focal length?  I know Cosina, Tokina and Tamron
> >(I think) make a 24/2.8.  Are they good or barely
> >worth the plastic they're housed in?  I'm asking
> >because I could probably get one to half the cost of
> >the Pentax lens.
> 
I just bought a Tokina RMC 24mm F2.8 in M42 a few
weeks ago to throw into my "Car Trunk" kit. Excellent
lens & well worth the $50 paid. This dates from the 
early 80's I think and all metal...
JCO
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Mark Cassino]

I recently bought an FA 20 - 35 f4 and love it - great color and contrast, 
wonderfully sharp.

- MCC

At 09:23 PM 4/25/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Just a quick question.  What is your prefered wide
>angle lens?  I have been thinking about getting a
>third party lens, probably around 24mm, and wanted
>some feedback from the group.

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[wendy beard]

At 13:50 26-4-2002 -0400, you wrote:
>From: Debra Wilborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Favorite wide lens?
>
>Wow, thanks for the overwhelming response!  I guess
>then that the SMC 24/2.8 ranks pretty high on the list
>(and the 31 LTD).  I'll keep that in mind next time I
>go lens shopping.
>
>Does anyone have opinions on non-Pentax glass in the
>same focal length?  I know Cosina, Tokina and Tamron
>(I think) make a 24/2.8.  Are they good or barely
>worth the plastic they're housed in?  I'm asking
>because I could probably get one to half the cost of
>the Pentax lens.

Hi Deb,

I used to have a Tokina 24mm. I'm pretty sure it was metal.
I don't remember it as being a particularly bad lens, but I didn't use it 
apart from one one cycle trip to the pyrenees.
I sold it after that.

ever helpful,
Wendy

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Ken Archer]

Sorry, but that is too high for me for a used lens.  I can get a new 
one from Pavel Gubanov for $85.  He usually sells on ebay, but I have 
purchased from him direct including shipping for what he normally gets 
on ebay.

On Friday 26 April 2002 01:52 pm, you wrote:
> $90 + s/h. Contact me off-list for more details.
>
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:54:13 -0500, "Ken Archer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> said:
> > How much do you want for your Mir 20?
> >
> > On Friday 26 April 2002 07:46 am, you wrote:
> > >I am thinking of selling the
> > > russian one, since it has been collecting dust on my shelf for
> > > almost half a year already.
> >
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Aaron Reynolds]

Previously I'd have said 24mm, but the novelty of the wideness has worn 
off, and I think that 35mm really is my favourite focal length, not just 
for wides, but overall.

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Mishka]

$90 + s/h. Contact me off-list for more details.

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:54:13 -0500, "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> How much do you want for your Mir 20?
> 
> On Friday 26 April 2002 07:46 am, you wrote:
> > I have a russian Mir MK-47 20mm/2.5 and SMCA 24/2.8
> > Between them, the second one is my clear choice (although for more
> > than twice the money). It's a bit longer and a bit slower (or, maybe
> > not, "2.5" is not necessarily "2.5" really). But it's a lot more
> > compact, has half the weight, and there's simply no comparison in the
> > build quality. Still, I was quite happy with the 20mm, until I got
> > the 24mm. I am thinking of selling the russian one, since it has been
> > collecting dust on my shelf for almost half a year already.
> 
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Debra Wilborn]

Wow, thanks for the overwhelming response!  I guess
then that the SMC 24/2.8 ranks pretty high on the list
(and the 31 LTD).  I'll keep that in mind next time I
go lens shopping.

Does anyone have opinions on non-Pentax glass in the
same focal length?  I know Cosina, Tokina and Tamron
(I think) make a 24/2.8.  Are they good or barely
worth the plastic they're housed in?  I'm asking
because I could probably get one to half the cost of
the Pentax lens.

Thanks and happy shooting,
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Pentxuser]

I agree wholeheartedly. My 15 rarely travels in my bag. Only if I know I'm 
likely to use it. But I love it none the less.

In a message dated 4/26/02 10:01:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<> 15MM F3.5 SMC TAKUMAR. W I D E  !!!
> SHARP, CONTRASTY, FLARE RESISTANT.
> NOBODY DOES IT BETTER.

I have an optically identical A 15/3.5, and I have to agree with
your summary of its superb qualities, JCO.  However, it still loses
out (along with the A 16/2.8 Fisheye) to my A 20/2.8 for "preferred
wide angle lens".  Both the 15/3.5 and (especially) the 16/2.8 are
very specialized lenses, made for very specialized images - images
that the 20/2.8 can't handle.  However, most of my own wide angle
shooting doesn't usually need something ~that~ wide, and the 20/2.8
serves nicely as the proper tool most of the time.  Furthermore, the
bulky (especially the 15/3.5) and rather dear super wide angles
simply don't get carried around very often - they are usually
sitting at home unless I know ahead of time that they would be
useful - while the compact 20/2.8 is almost as portable as a 50mm
normal lens (well, except for the flaring filter flange - ), and
has seen a lot of miles.

But the 15/3.5 is a gem, though, isn't it...  ;-)>>
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RE: Favorite wide lens?

[Paris, Leonard]

> Just a quick question.  What is your prefered wide angle lens?  I have
> been thinking about getting a third party lens, probably around 24mm,
> and wanted some feedback from the group.

Mine is the FA 20-35mm f/4. The best prime wide angle lens I own is the FA
35mm f/2 but I use the 20-35mm zoom more frequently.

Len
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Ken Archer]

How much do you want for your Mir 20?

On Friday 26 April 2002 07:46 am, you wrote:
> I have a russian Mir MK-47 20mm/2.5 and SMCA 24/2.8
> Between them, the second one is my clear choice (although for more
> than twice the money). It's a bit longer and a bit slower (or, maybe
> not, "2.5" is not necessarily "2.5" really). But it's a lot more
> compact, has half the weight, and there's simply no comparison in the
> build quality. Still, I was quite happy with the 20mm, until I got
> the 24mm. I am thinking of selling the russian one, since it has been
> collecting dust on my shelf for almost half a year already.

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Chris Brogden]

> Just a quick question.  What is your prefered wide angle lens?  I have
> been thinking about getting a third party lens, probably around 24mm,
> and wanted some feedback from the group.

My favourite wide angle lens has to be the M24-35/3.5.  Good range, not
too long a zoom, and compact.  My favourite focal length for wide angle is
a toss-up between 24mm and 35mm.

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Fred]

>> As to field-of-view, 24mm (or 35mm on the 645) seems about right
>> to me for a wide angle. 20mm is too extreme (hey, you fisheye
>> guys, don't laugh!) and 28mm seems kinda blah.

> Obviously this is a very personal thing, but I prefer 20mm for an
> all-around wide-angle focal length.  I also find 28mm sometimes a
> bit "blah" (as in "not really all that wide"), but I also find that
> 24mm, while different, is not overly different.  On the other hand,
> it seems to me that 15mm is too extreme for a lot of wide-angle
> shooting (it's mostly for very specialized images) (and the 15/3.5
> is too big to carry around "just in case" anyway), so (for me) 20mm
> is the "sweet spot" for most wide-angle situations.  But, as I said,
> this is a very personal thing.

To add an addendum to my opinion:  I used to have an A 24/2.8 (which
is a very nice lens, by the way), but I found that I hardly ever
used it, so I no longer have it.  (I'm sure it is serving another
Pentaxer very well.)  But, you know, I don't miss it at all...

On the other hand, if you took away my 20, I'd feel sort naked -
.

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Fred]

> 15MM F3.5 SMC TAKUMAR. W I D E  !!!
> SHARP, CONTRASTY, FLARE RESISTANT.
> NOBODY DOES IT BETTER.

I have an optically identical A 15/3.5, and I have to agree with
your summary of its superb qualities, JCO.  However, it still loses
out (along with the A 16/2.8 Fisheye) to my A 20/2.8 for "preferred
wide angle lens".  Both the 15/3.5 and (especially) the 16/2.8 are
very specialized lenses, made for very specialized images - images
that the 20/2.8 can't handle.  However, most of my own wide angle
shooting doesn't usually need something ~that~ wide, and the 20/2.8
serves nicely as the proper tool most of the time.  Furthermore, the
bulky (especially the 15/3.5) and rather dear super wide angles
simply don't get carried around very often - they are usually
sitting at home unless I know ahead of time that they would be
useful - while the compact 20/2.8 is almost as portable as a 50mm
normal lens (well, except for the flaring filter flange - ), and
has seen a lot of miles.

But the 15/3.5 is a gem, though, isn't it...  ;-)

Fred
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Rob Studdert]

On 26 Apr 2002 at 8:36, Bob Walkden wrote:

> Putting it in context, I also have very good 21/2.8 and 28/2.8 lenses,
> and have previously also had Pentax A 20/2.8, A 24/2.8 and K 28/2 lenses,
> all of which I liked. But although they are useful and good to have, none
> of them has the overall versatility of the 35mm.

Har,

But you haven't owned the 31mm LTD yet :-)

Seriously (and I've probably said this before) when I was shooting Contax a lot 
had a decent selection of glass but by far my most used lenses were the f1.4 35 
and 85 pair, they just seem to be a perfect pair on the Contax bodies.

I also shot around 90% of my images during my last inter-continental trip using 
my Leica M35f1.4 ASPH and only had the need to go wide on a few occasions.

Cheers,

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RE: Favorite wide lens?

[Rob Studdert]

On 26 Apr 2002 at 3:42, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> 15MM F3.5 SMC TAKUMAR. W I D E  !!!
> SHARP, CONTRASTY, FLARE RESISTANT.
> NOBODY DOES IT BETTER.

Apparently the new Leica R 15f2.8 ASPH is the new bench-mark for the FL

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

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Flavio Minelli wrote:
This until I got a SMCK 24/2.8, now I think I'm addicted. 28mm FOV seems to 
generate in me about the same reaction it does in Stan..."blah". ... 24mm rules! 

Indeed, when they were introduced, the 24s were snapped up by professionals because 
every serious amateur had acquired a 28mm lens and the pros needed something to let 
their prints look different.

It's also interesting how many photojournalists, in the days of primes, seemed to use 
a 24 as their wide-angle lens. With its expansive field of view, it allowed them to be 
in the thick of action and shoot away when there was neither time nor room to pull 
back. 

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Jeff]

Wow, what a range for WA's. 17 to 31mm.
I never owned anything wider than a 28mm, but after seeing what a 35mm 645
(equivalent to 23mm) can do, I feel that anything in the 20 to 24mm would be
more interesting than the 28mm view.

Jeff

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Mishka]

I have a russian Mir MK-47 20mm/2.5 and SMCA 24/2.8
Between them, the second one is my clear choice (although for more than
twice the money). It's a bit longer and a bit slower (or, maybe not,
"2.5" is not necessarily "2.5" really). But it's a lot more compact,
has half the weight, and there's simply no comparison in the build
quality. Still, I was quite happy with the 20mm, until I got the 24mm.
I am thinking of selling the russian one, since it has been collecting
dust on my shelf for almost half a year already.
  

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[wendy beard]

At 01:47 26-4-2002 -0400, you wrote:
>From: Debra Wilborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Favorite wide lens?
>
>Just a quick question.  What is your prefered wide
>angle lens?  I have been thinking about getting a
>third party lens, probably around 24mm, and wanted
>some feedback from the group.
>
>Buenos noches,
>Deb

My favourite is the Pentax-M 20mm. I don't tend to use the 24-28-35 lenses 
I have/had. I either use the 20mm or the Tamron SP 17mm f3.5 but the first 
one is my favourite.

Wendy

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Fred]

> Just a quick question. What is your prefered wide angle lens? I
> have been thinking about getting a third party lens, probably
> around 24mm, and wanted some feedback from the group.

My choice for preferred (i.e., my most used) w/a is the A 20/2.8.
It's compact, sharp, has great contrast, never vignettes with
filters, and I do like 20mm for an all-around w/a focal length.

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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Fred]

> As to field-of-view, 24mm (or 35mm on the 645) seems about right
> to me for a wide angle. 20mm is too extreme (hey, you fisheye
> guys, don't laugh!) and 28mm seems kinda blah.

Obviously this is a very personal thing, but I prefer 20mm for an
all-around wide-angle focal length.  I also find 28mm sometimes a
bit "blah" (as in "not really all that wide"), but I also find that
24mm, while different, is not overly different.  On the other hand,
it seems to me that 15mm is too extreme for a lot of wide-angle
shooting (it's mostly for very specialized images) (and the 15/3.5
is too big to carry around "just in case" anyway), so (for me) 20mm
is the "sweet spot" for most wide-angle situations.  But, as I said,
this is a very personal thing.

Fred
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RE: Favorite wide lens?

[J. C. O'Connell]

Lets see,
Althought the SMCT 15mm is the coolest,
I've got plenty of wide angle action:

35mm Format:

Screwmounts

15mm 3.5 SMCT -AWESOME BABY
17mm 4 SMCT Fisheye
20mm 4.5 SMCT
21mm 4 Mamiya SX BEATS THE 20mm PENTAX SMCT
24mm 3.5 SMCT
28mm 3.5 SMCT
28mm 1.9 Vivitar Series 1 VERY NICE
35mm 2.0 SMCT (yellowed a bit)
35mm 2.0 Super Tak ( 67mm filter) BEST 35mm
35mm 3.5 SMCT
28-85mm 4.0 Tokina RMC FANTASTIC for a zoom
45-125mm 4.0 SMCT GREAT ZOOM

Kmounts

24mm 2.8 Sigma
28mm 3.5 M
28-50mm M
45-125mm SMCP GREAT ZOOM

6X7 Format:

45mm 4.0 SMCP EXCELLENTE
55mm 3.5 SMCT
75mm 4.5 SMCT
90mm 2.8 SMCT LS

4X5 Format

135mm I Forget the brand

Hm,
only 21 to choose from.
That 15mm SMCT still takes the cake.
The 45mm for 67 is a close second though.
I need a 75mm for my speed graphic, especially
as I'm getting a scanner than can cover it.
JCO
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Flavio Minelli]

Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> As to field-of-view, 24mm (or 35mm on the 645) seems about right to me for a
> wide angle. 20mm is too extreme (hey, you fisheye guys, don't laugh!) and
> 28mm seems kinda blah.
> ...

I had a SMCA 28/2.8 and a Vivitar 19/3.8 for a long time. Being the
Vivitar what it is (not so good, really) I used mainly the 28. This
until I got a SMCK 24/2.8, now I think I'm addicted. 28mm FOV seems to
generate in me about the same reaction it does in Stan..."blah". I think
I could get rid of it as it haven't seen daylight in a long time.

24mm rules!

Ciao, Flavio
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Re: Favorite wide lens?

[Sas Gabor]

Hi,

On 25 Apr 2002 at 21:23, Debra Wilborn wrote:
> Just a quick question.  What is your prefered wide
> angle lens?  I have been thinking about getting a
> third party lens, probably around 24mm, and wanted
> some feedback from the group.

SMC Pentax-A 2.8/24
24mm is one of my most used focal lengths. I've also tried 
the Tamron (Adaptall2) 2.5/24 and the Vivitar 2/24. All of them
are good lenses, but the Pentax's coating and handling is
much better than the other two.

Other wideangles I use:
Tokina 3.5/17 SL
Cosinon-W 2/28
SMC Pentax-M 2/35


Gabor
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Favorite wide lens?

[Debra Wilborn]

Just a quick question.  What is your prefered wide
angle lens?  I have been thinking about getting a
third party lens, probably around 24mm, and wanted
some feedback from the group.

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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 30

[Mishka]

wouldn't it make more sense to count only incremental votes (meaning,
if someone didn't vote, that means that they just didn't change their
mind/preferences)? that would result in a lot less mail traffic for the
maintainer, i would guess.

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:31:14 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> 1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
> 2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
> owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a
> wish
> list).
> 3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
> 4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members.
> I'll
> not count votes sent to list.
> Regards
> 
> DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
> same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
> must put all this or that together". Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.
> 
> Members: 94
> 
> M42:
> - Spotmatic (1)
> - Spotmatic II (1)
> - Spotmatic SP (2)
> - Spotmatic F (1)
> - SP 500 (2)
> - ES (1)
> 
> K Manual Focus:
> - KX (7)
> - K2 (2)
> - K2 DMD (2)
> - K1000 SE (1)
> - MX (8)
> - ME (1)
> - ME Super (1)
> - LX (23)
> - Super Program (1)
> - Program A (1)
> 
> K Auto Focus:
> - Z1 (1)
> - Z1p (2)
> - PZ1p (7)
> - Z 5 (1)
> - MZ S (13)
> - ZX5n (2)
> - MZ5n (3)
> 
> Medium Format:
> - 645 (1)
> - 6x7 (8)
> - 67 (1)
> - 67II (1)
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Re: Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 48

[andre]

I see 3 medalists:

>Kodak Tri-X (11)
>Fuji Velvia (10)
>Fuji Provia 100F (9)


And runner ups...

>Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
>Kodak Supra 400 (5)

etc.

As the number of answers are quite low, a better view would come from 
a choice of 1 film in each category (slides, b&w and color neg) or 3 
films overall.  But that would mean more hours in front of an excel 
sheet...

Andre
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 48

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 110

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (10)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (5)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (2)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)
Paterson Acupan 800 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 30

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 94

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (7)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (2)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (13)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (8)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 56

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 163


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (2)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (7)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (2)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (3)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (3)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 22 votes.

Members: 90

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (5)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (22)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (13)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (3)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (8)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 54

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 160


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (2)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28

[Bill Owens]

> p.s. I'd own a 645 on top of my other gear, too, if I had the money.  
> Shhh, don't tell anyone.

I promise to tell no one except Vanessa. :-)

Bill  KG4LOV
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28

[Bill Owens]

Hey Aaron, we retardees, whoops, I mean retirees need to watch the pennies
and the 645 was available on ebay for a good price.

Bill  KG4LOV
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From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28


> On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 03:51  PM, Bill Owens wrote:
>
> > If you're talking about the new one being the 645, then I'm the guilty
> > party.
>
> Nah, there's a new 6x7 in there!  But welcome in to the Brotherhood,
> even if you're shooting with the compromise-weenie version of the 67.  ;)
>
> -Aaron
>
> p.s. I'd own a 645 on top of my other gear, too, if I had the money.
> Shhh, don't tell anyone.
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 03:51  PM, Bill Owens wrote:

> If you're talking about the new one being the 645, then I'm the guilty
> party.

Nah, there's a new 6x7 in there!  But welcome in to the Brotherhood, 
even if you're shooting with the compromise-weenie version of the 67.  ;)

-Aaron

p.s. I'd own a 645 on top of my other gear, too, if I had the money.  
Shhh, don't tell anyone.
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 46

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 107

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (6)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (2)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 27

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 22 votes.

Members: 88

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (5)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (22)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (7)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (13)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (2)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (7)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 54

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 160


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
SMC Tak 100 4 (1)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (2)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Re[2]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 26

[Bruce Dayton]

Aaron,

I'm thinking maybe we need little cards are something.  Then we could
be official card carrying members of the Brother/Sisterhood.  The dues
would be to vote your 67 as your favorite camera.  :)


Brother Bruce



Thursday, April 11, 2002, 5:05:20 AM, you wrote:

AR> On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 04:39  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
AR> wrote:

>> Medium Format:
>> - 645 (1)
>> - 6x7 (7)
>> - 67 (1)
>> - 67II (1)

AR> Brothers, are we just spinning our wheels here or what?

AR> -Brother Aaron
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 26

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 04:39  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Medium Format:
> - 645 (1)
> - 6x7 (7)
> - 67 (1)
> - 67II (1)

Brothers, are we just spinning our wheels here or what?

-Brother Aaron
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 53

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 158


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
A 35-105 3.5 (8)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 25

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 87

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (5)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- K1000 SE (1)
- MX (8)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (6)
- Z 5 (1)
- MZ S (12)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (2)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (7)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 45

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 11 votes.

Members: 105

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (5)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (1)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (11)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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R: my favorite April PUG entries

[talampaya]

From: Amita Guha 

> This month's PUG features lots of sensual photos...lots of cool
> textures, and some that even evoked memories of scents. My favories:
(snip) 
> " Sifonazos " by  Facit - I like the colors and textures

Thank you, Amita I sniffed the bottles scent of dust!! :-( 
Ciao
Fabio
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Re: my favorite April PUG entries

[Steve Larson]

Hi Amita,
 Thanks for the kind words, and taking time to comment. I was aiming
for "sensual" when I took it.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
 
Amita Guha wrote:
> " Peachy II " by  Steve Larson - I could smell them just by looking at
> them
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my favorite April PUG entries

[Amita Guha]

This month's PUG features lots of sensual photos...lots of cool
textures, and some that even evoked memories of scents. My favories:

" Orange " by  Thibault Grouas - it looks like a celestial event :)

" Juicy " by  Harald Rust - it just looks so appetizing!

" Peachy II " by  Steve Larson - I could smell them just by looking at
them

 Lone Crusader " by  Satish Kumar S.K. - I love mood, and the muted
tones of the gradient in the background

" Tulip " by  Aconquija - simply exquisite

" Unlikely to move again ... " by  Jan van Wijk - that car looks so
lonely!

" Baseball Window " by  Chris McNutt - it looks like the ball wants to
go out and play

" Kitchen Window, San Antonio " by  Dick Jones - I really like the
soft light and the shape of the window

" Frozen " by  Dave Kennedy - I love the colors. This almost looks
like a fossil in stone.

" Woodscape " by  Frits J. Wuthrich - what wonderful shapes, colors
and textures!

" Before the Supper " by  Gianfranco Irlanda - I like the contrasts

" Sifonazos " by  Facit - I like the colors and textures
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 44

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 10 votes.

Members: 104

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (5)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (1)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (10)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 52

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 157


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
A 35-105 3.5 (7)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 24

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 84

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (5)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- MX (7)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (6)
- MZ S (12)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (2)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (7)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Re: my favorite March PUG entries

[Artur Ledóchowski]

-
>I usually do this a lot earlier in the month, but I've been a bit tied
>up this month. Anyway, here are my favorites, in no particular order.

>" Fishing boats " by  Artur Ledóchowski - love the mood, and the
>contrast of the colorful boats against the muted background

Thanks, Amita:) I'm glad you like it:)
Greetz
Artur



-- 

Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie!
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Re: my favorite March PUG entries

[JGeoffreyStevens]

>" Old Chestnut " by  Geoffrey Stevens - a beautiful composition

Amita,

Thank you for your kind words.  The shot was taken on  a pleasant autumn day
 last year - I was having a good afternoon's shooting and taking my time 
(using my tripod).
I must use my tripod, I must use my tripod,...

Geoff
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Re: my favorite March PUG entries

[Mark Cassino]

At 11:04 AM 3/17/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I usually do this a lot earlier in the month, but I've been a bit tied
>up this month. Anyway, here are my favorites, in no particular order.
>
>
>" South Haven Dawn " by  Mark Cassino - The colors are great and I
>love lighthouses. :)

thanks! I'm lucky to live in a place with 6 lighthouses all within a two 
hours drive (from my home - not each other).
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Kalamazoo, MI
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Re[2]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 23

[Bruce Dayton]

Brother Aaron,

I have mailed to Albano several times and mentioned on the list
several times to have my vote changed.  But, as of yet, it has not.

ALBANO, IF YOU READ THIS - PLEASE CHANGE MY VOTE FROM MZ-S TO
P67II!


Brother Bruce



Monday, March 18, 2002, 6:31:35 PM, you wrote:

AR> On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 12:46  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
AR> wrote:

>> Medium Format:
>> - 645 (1)
>> - 6x7 (7)
>> - 67 (1)
>> - 67II (1)

AR> Brothers, we do not appear to be gaining any ground, despite the 
AR> swelling of our ranks of late.

AR> -Brother Aaron
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 52

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 157


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
A 35-105 3.5 (7)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 44

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 10 votes.

Members: 104

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (5)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (1)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (10)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 23

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 83

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (5)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- MX (7)
- ME (1)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (5)
- MZ S (12)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (2)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (7)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Re: my favorite March PUG entries

[harald_nancy]

Hi Amita,
Thank you for your friendly comments.
The photo I captured that evening was a lucky combination
of different elements coming together.
I also enjoyed your website, especially the trip reports to Las Vegas,
Red Rock Canyon, and Death Valley. 
Nice shots inside the casinos, especially the Venetian glass ceiling.
Congratulations on your wedding.
Harald

Amita Guha wrote:
" Cosmic Karma " by  Harald Rust - the colors are amazing. You had
good karma indeed to get this shot!
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Re: my favorite March PUG entries

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Thanks Amita, I am glad you liked it. It was a lovely
late afternoon at St. Malo.

BTW, nice website and congratulations for the wedding
;-)

Regards,
Jaume
 
--- Amita Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > " Layers " by  Jaume Lahuerta - I like the mood
and,
> well, the layers.
> :)
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my favorite March PUG entries

[Amita Guha]

I usually do this a lot earlier in the month, but I've been a bit tied
up this month. Anyway, here are my favorites, in no particular order.

--Amita

" Winter " by  Petr Pazour - I love the framing and the way the sun
contrasts with the long shadow of the tree.

" South Haven Dawn " by  Mark Cassino - The colors are great and I
love lighthouses. :)

" Cosmic Karma " by  Harald Rust - the colors are amazing. You had
good karma indeed to get this shot!

" Tree on Thames, Lechlade, 2002" by  Cotty - a very tranquil vista

" grain " by  Ann Sanfedele - I never would have known that such
interesting subjects could be found in Kansas. :)

" Old Chestnut " by  Geoffrey Stevens - a beautiful composition

" Valley of Faith " by  Richard Klein - I love the mood

" Cold Rainbow " by  Alexey Tikhonov - it looks like a painting

" Layers " by  Jaume Lahuerta - I like the mood and, well, the layers.
:)

" Lonely One " by  Ken Waller - just a really cool shot. Love the
little tree. The cloud behind the hill adds some nice depth to the
photo.

" Long way home.. " by  Dan Carson - ah, the call of the open road, or
railway...

" Fishing boats " by  Artur Ledóchowski - love the mood, and the
contrast of the colorful boats against the muted background

" Bruce " by  Philip Stone - just because I adore black Labs :)

" Californian Poppy " by  Leon Altoff - simply exquisite.

" Bubble stack " by  Jostein Øksne - love the color, and the
otherworldly-looking subject

" Declan " by  Darryn Richter - a photogenic kid and a talented dad
make a great combination :)

" Annami " by  Matti Eteläperä - I love the lighting and the depth of
field in this one

" playing field " by  Wessel Sijl - I love the feeling of lonliness in
this picture

" Barn " by  Joe Collins - this one has a nice cozy feel

" Fort Ross " by  Dick Jones - I like the different contrasts in this
photo: the contrast of the texture of the wood siding against the hill
in the background, and the contrast of the hill against the sky, and
the sky against the clouds

" Homestead " by  Kevin Waterson - I really like the feel of this one,
but I wish the image were a little sharper. Was it a little blurry on
purpose? Maybe you could have sharpened up the scan in an image
editing program.

" Grandma's house " by  Matjaz Osojnik - love the contrast of the
socks against the wall and the pattern of the curtains, and the
composition
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 22

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 82

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (5)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- MX (7)
- ME Super (1)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (1)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (5)
- MZ S (12)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (2)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (7)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 44

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 10 votes.

Members: 104

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (5)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (1)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (4)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (10)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 52

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 157


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
A 35-105 3.5 (7)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Enlarger

[MacBurt]

In a message dated 3/11/02 8:39:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< From: Frantisek Vlcek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger

Sunday, March 10, 2002, 7:51:36 AM, Shel wrote:
SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/5x7laborator.html

SB> They used to have, and maybe still do, a similar model in 4x5 format. 
SB> The adjustable table takes a vacuum attachment which holds the paper
SB> perfectly flat and allows borderless, easel-less printing.  The table
SB> raises and lowers electrically, and tilts in all planes.  The enlarger
SB> head also tilts.  

Hi,
   I also made a mistake at looking at laborator-type enlargers
   (meopta's) once ;-( (really nice stuff! motordriven, apo lens, BIG
   & heavy...)BTW, some people on the Large format list have
   IIRC constructed vacuum easels themselves, you might check the web. >>

Years ago I had a Durst M35. One beauty. I sold it; the mistake of my 
photographic life. I've since contacted Durst. They have no units. To me it 
was the perfect machine. I made one big mistake selling it.
Burt
NYC
USA
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Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger

[Frantisek Vlcek]

Sunday, March 10, 2002, 7:51:36 AM, Shel wrote:
SB> http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/5x7laborator.html

SB> They used to have, and maybe still do, a similar model in 4x5 format. 
SB> The adjustable table takes a vacuum attachment which holds the paper
SB> perfectly flat and allows borderless, easel-less printing.  The table
SB> raises and lowers electrically, and tilts in all planes.  The enlarger
SB> head also tilts.  

Hi,
   I also made a mistake at looking at laborator-type enlargers
   (meopta's) once ;-( (really nice stuff! motordriven, apo lens, BIG
   & heavy...)BTW, some people on the Large format list have
   IIRC constructed vacuum easels themselves, you might check the web.

Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: T Rittenhouse
Subject: Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger



>
> Back in the sixties Durst made an M35 enlarger that I think
was the best
> 35mm enlarger ever made.

I had a Durst M301 for a number of years. It was an
extraordinary enlarger. I read someplace that the Durst Neonon
lenses were made by Pentax. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

William Robb
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Re: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger

[T Rittenhouse]

Durst made some great enlargers. The one you are thinking about was sold as
the S45 in the US. The 138 was the same enlarger with 5x7 carriers and
condensers. Their 10x10, usually advertised as 8x10, was a real monster. All
of these were built, well..., well.

I just checked their webpage. The 1200 is the biggest they have listed. I
hadn't thought of it but, satellite mapping had probably pretty much done
away with 5x5 to 10x10 aerial photography. That is what most of those big
enlargers were used for.

Back in the sixties Durst made an M35 enlarger that I think was the best
35mm enlarger ever made.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



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From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 1:51 AM
Subject: Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger


> http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/5x7laborator.html
>
> They used to have, and maybe still do, a similar model in 4x5 format.
> The adjustable table takes a vacuum attachment which holds the paper
> perfectly flat and allows borderless, easel-less printing.  The table
> raises and lowers electrically, and tilts in all planes.  The enlarger
> head also tilts.
>
> I wanted this enlarger very badly when i first started photography, but
> at the time it was over $1200.00 ... it was made of unobtainium.  Now
> there's no place to put it, and it's still made of unobtainium.
>
>
> --
> Shel Belinkoff
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/
> http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html
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Durst Laborator - My Favorite Enlarger

[Shel Belinkoff]

http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/5x7laborator.html

They used to have, and maybe still do, a similar model in 4x5 format. 
The adjustable table takes a vacuum attachment which holds the paper
perfectly flat and allows borderless, easel-less printing.  The table
raises and lowers electrically, and tilts in all planes.  The enlarger
head also tilts.  

I wanted this enlarger very badly when i first started photography, but
at the time it was over $1200.00 ... it was made of unobtainium.  Now
there's no place to put it, and it's still made of unobtainium.


-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Leszek G]

ME Super

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Re: Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 43

[Shel Belinkoff]

There is no such B&W film as Agfa pan F 50.

Also, There is no Ilford Pan F, it's PanF+.  Likewise for Ilford's HP5,
which should probably be HP5+.  PanF and HP5 have been discontinued for
quite some time.  It's possible, but not likely, that the older films
were the ones intended for inclusion on the list.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> BLACK AND WHITE:
> 
> Agfapan APX 25 (2)
> Agfa pan F 50 (1)
> Agfapan APX 100 (1)
> Ilford Pan F (3)
> Ilford Delta 100 (4)
> Kodak Plus-X (2)
> Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
> Agfa Scala 200x (1)
> Kodak Tri-X (10)
> Kodak T400 CN (2)
> Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
> Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
> Agfa APX 400 (1)
> Ilford HP5 (1)
> Ilford HP5+ (1)
> Ilford XP2 (2)
> Konica VX 400 (1)


-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/
"If you are a bad technician, it doesn't 
matter how big your negs are." - PDML member
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Favorite Film Survey Results UPDATE 43

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list, right to me.
2 - You must choose your favorite emulsion (35 and 120/220 allowed. Color
and b
and w)
3 - You must choose ONLY ONE (color print OR slide OR b and w, etc).
4 - You must have personal experience with it.

WINNER by now: Tri-X with 10 votes.

Members: 104

COLOR Slide:

Kodak Kodachrome 25 (2)
Fuji Velvia (9)
Agfa RSX II 50 (1)
Kodak Kodachrome 64 (5)
Kodak Elitechrome Extra Color 100 (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 VS (3)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 SW (2)
Kodak Ektachrome 100 (1)
Fuji Sensia II 100 (3)
Fuji Provia 100F (9)
Kodak Kodachrome 200 (1)
Kodak Ektachrome E200 (2)
Fuji Provia 400F (1)

COLOR Print:

Konica Impressa 50 (1)
Kodak Supra 100 (1)
Kodak Royal 100 (1)
Fuji Reala 100 (2)
Agfa XRG 100 (1)
Kodak Portra 160 NC (1)
Fuji Superia 200 (1)
Agfa HDC Plus 200 (1)
Kodak Max 400 (1)
Kodak Ektapress PJ 400 (1)
Kodak Supra 400 (4)
Kodak Portra 400 NC (1)
Fuji Press 400 (1)
Fuji Superia 400 (1)
Fuji NPH 400 (1)
Kodak Portra 800 (1)
Fuji Press 800 (3)
Kodak PJC 1600 (1)

BLACK AND WHITE:

Agfapan APX 25 (2)
Agfa pan F 50 (1)
Agfapan APX 100 (1)
Ilford Pan F (3)
Ilford Delta 100 (4)
Kodak Plus-X (2)
Ilford FP4 Plus (3)
Agfa Scala 200x (1)
Kodak Tri-X (10)
Kodak T400 CN (2)
Kodak Porta 400 BW (1)
Fuji Neopan 400 (1)
Agfa APX 400 (1)
Ilford HP5 (1)
Ilford HP5+ (1)
Ilford XP2 (2)
Konica VX 400 (1)

INFRARED:

Kodak HIE (1)
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Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 52

[Albano_Garcia]

These are the conditions:
1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
included.
2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
4 - Primes and zooms.
5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
had it,
lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
be a wish list.

First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2

Members: 157


K 15 3.5 (2)
A 15 3.5 (1)
A 20 2.8 (1)
FA 20 2.8 (1)
K 24 2.8 (4)
A 24 2.8 (2)
FA* 24 2 (11)
K 28 3.5 (1)
K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
M 28 2.8 (1)
A 28 2 (1)
A 28 2.8 (1)
K 35 3.5 (1)
M 35 2 (1)
FA 35 2 (2)

M 40 2.8 (4)
FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
K 50 1.2 (1)
K 50 1.4 (1)
M 50 1.4 (6)
M 50 1.7 (3)
M 50 4 Macro (1)
A 50 1.4 (6)
A 50 1.7 (1)
F 50 1.4 (1)
F 50 1.7 (1)
FA 50 1.4 (2)
FA 50 1.7 (1)
K 55 1.8 (2)

FA 77 1.8 Limited (4)
SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
K 85 1.8 (3)
M 85 2 (2)
A* 85 1.4 (2)
FA* 85 1.4 (2)
M 100 2.8 (2)
M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
A 100 2.8 (1)
A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
F 100 2.8 (1)
F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
K 105 2.8 (2)
K 135 2.5 (1)
A* 135 1.8 (1)
A 135 2.8 (1)
Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
K 200 4 (1)
A* 200 2.8 (1)
A* 200 4 Macro (5)
A* 300 2.8 (2)
F* 300 4.5 (2)
FA* 300 4.5 (1)
FA* 400 5.6 (1)


FA 20-35 4 (3)
M 24-50 4 (1)
FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (4)
FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
A 35-105 3.5 (7)
K 45-125 4 (1)
M 75-150 4 (3)
A 70-210 4 (2)
A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)


645 35 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
67 165 4 LS (1)
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Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Albano_Garcia]

1- You must choose JUST ONE Pentax brand body of any era and format.
2- You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you own it,
owned it, borrowed it, rented it. You must have used it (it's not a wish
list).
3- Again, you must choose JUST ONE.
4- Send the answers OFF-LIST, TO ME, to don't disturb list members. I'll
not count votes sent to list.
Regards

DISCLAIMER: For the "winner" category, I'll count all the variants of a
same model (ie all Spotties together), so don't start arguing "hey, you
must put all this or that together". Thanks



Winner by now: LX with 23 votes.

Members: 81

M42:
- Spotmatic (1)
- Spotmatic II (1)
- Spotmatic SP (2)
- Spotmatic F (1)
- SP 500 (2)
- ES (1)

K Manual Focus:
- KX (4)
- K2 (2)
- K2 DMD (1)
- MX (7)
- LX (23)
- Super Program (2)
- Program A (1)

K Auto Focus:
- Z1 (1)
- Z1p (2)
- PZ1p (5)
- MZ S (12)
- ZX5n (2)
- MZ5n (2)

Medium Format:
- 645 (1)
- 6x7 (7)
- 67 (1)
- 67II (1)
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Re: Re[4]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Sunday, February 17, 2002, at 02:30  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
> Now you blew it.  Letting us know what the "wrath" constitutes takes
> away the mystery and guesswork.  Some people could have conjured up
> much worse consequences.  :)

Whoops.  Oh well, there goes any respect I had... ;)

-Aaron
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Re[4]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Bruce Dayton]

Aaron,

Now you blew it.  Letting us know what the "wrath" constitutes takes
away the mystery and guesswork.  Some people could have conjured up
much worse consequences.  :)


Bruce Dayton



Sunday, February 17, 2002, 7:56:30 AM, you wrote:

AR> On Friday, February 15, 2002, at 03:30  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> We don't want to incur the wrath of
>> Aaron, do we?

AR> Somewhere I seem to have picked up a reputation as a violent person!  I 
AR> assure you all that this is not the case.  The worst that could possibly 
AR> happen to someone who actively disses the Pentax 67 on this list is that 
AR> they would receive incoherent ranting e-mail in all-caps.

AR> -Aaron

AR> p.s. over and over again until they apologize, did I mention that part?
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Re: Re[2]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Friday, February 15, 2002, at 03:30  PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

> We don't want to incur the wrath of
> Aaron, do we?

Somewhere I seem to have picked up a reputation as a violent person!  I 
assure you all that this is not the case.  The worst that could possibly 
happen to someone who actively disses the Pentax 67 on this list is that 
they would receive incoherent ranting e-mail in all-caps.

-Aaron

p.s. over and over again until they apologize, did I mention that part?
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RE: Re[2]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Mick Maguire]

you need to email Albano off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than
post them here, or he wont make the change.

Regards,
/\/\ick...
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Re[2]: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Bruce Dayton]

Len,

I'm not asking for a second vote, merely the ability to shift my
single vote.  It is currently part of the MZ-S crowd and I am asking
for it to be shifted to the 67II.  We don't want to incur the wrath of
Aaron, do we?


Bruce Dayton



Friday, February 15, 2002, 12:20:39 PM, you wrote:

PL> One person, one vote.  Let's not get fickle here. :)

PL> Len
PL> ---

PL> -Original Message-
PL> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
PL> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:44 PM
PL> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PL> Subject: Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21


PL> Albano,

PL> It doesn't look like you have changed my vote from the MZ-S to the
PL> 67II.


PL> Bruce Dayton
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RE: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Paris, Leonard]

One person, one vote.  Let's not get fickle here. :)

Len
---

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21


Albano,

It doesn't look like you have changed my vote from the MZ-S to the
67II.


Bruce Dayton
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Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 21

[Norman Baugher]

Yeah baby!! Join the club!! 
Norm

Oliver Raymond wrote:

> Pentax 67 II :_)
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Vs: Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 50

[Raimo Korhonen]

The Pentax-FA 3.5-4.5/24-90 is really outstanding.
There are two new images taken with this lens at my site. Hairy - and in the original 
slides (and scans, too) you can count every hair - if you like, that is. 
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Päivä: 08. helmikuuta 2002 19:04
Aihe: Favorite Lens Survey Results UPDATE 50


>These are the conditions:
>1 - You must answer off-list exclusively. On-list votes will not be
>included.
>2 - You must choose Your Favorite Pentax Lens. ONLY ONE. Yes, ONLY ONE.
>3 - It must be original, no third-party allowed.
>4 - Primes and zooms.
>5 - You must specifiy: Tak, Super Tak, SMC Tak, K, M, A, F, FA, etc.
>6 - You must have personal experience with it, no matter if you have it,
>had it,
>lost it, sold it, borrowed it, but you must have used it. If not it would
>be a wish list.
>
>First Place (11 votes): FA* 24 2
>
>Members: 155
>
>
>K 15 3.5 (2)
>A 15 3.5 (1)
>A 20 2.8 (1)
>FA 20 2.8 (1)
>K 24 2.8 (4)
>A 24 2.8 (2)
>FA* 24 2 (11)
>K 28 3.5 (1)
>K 28 3.5 Shift (1)
>M 28 2.8 (1)
>A 28 2 (1)
>A 28 2.8 (1)
>K 35 3.5 (1)
>M 35 2 (1)
>FA 35 2 (2)
>
>M 40 2.8 (4)
>FA 43 1.9 Limited (2)
>SuperTak 50 1.4 (1)
>SMC Tak 50 1.4 (3)
>SMC Tak 55 1.8 (2)
>K 50 1.2 (1)
>K 50 1.4 (1)
>M 50 1.4 (6)
>M 50 1.7 (3)
>M 50 4 Macro (1)
>A 50 1.4 (6)
>A 50 1.7 (1)
>F 50 1.4 (1)
>F 50 1.7 (1)
>FA 50 1.4 (2)
>FA 50 1.7 (1)
>K 55 1.8 (2)
>
>FA 77 1.8 Limited (3)
>SMC Tak 85 1.8 (3)
>SMC Tak 85 1.9 (2)
>K 85 1.8 (3)
>M 85 2 (2)
>A* 85 1.4 (2)
>FA* 85 1.4 (2)
>M 100 2.8 (2)
>M 100 4 Dental Macro (1)
>A 100 2.8 (1)
>A 100 2.8 Macro (4)
>F 100 2.8 (1)
>F 100 2.8 Macro (3)
>FA 100 2.8 Macro (5)
>K 105 2.8 (2)
>K 135 2.5 (1)
>A* 135 1.8 (1)
>A 135 2.8 (1)
>Tak 200 3.5 Preset (1)
>K 200 4 (1)
>A* 200 2.8 (1)
>A* 200 4 Macro (5)
>A* 300 2.8 (2)
>F* 300 4.5 (2)
>FA* 300 4.5 (1)
>FA* 400 5.6 (1)
>
>
>FA 20-35 4 (3)
>M 24-50 4 (1)
>FA 24-90 3.5-4.5 (3)
>FA 28-70 4 AL (1)
>FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 (1)
>F 35-70 3.5-4.5 Macro (3)
>FA 28-105 4-5.6 powerzoom (1)
>A 35-105 3.5 (7)
>K 45-125 4 (1)
>M 75-150 4 (3)
>A 70-210 4 (2)
>A 80-200 4.7-5.6 (1)
>FA* 80-200 2.8 (1)
>
>
>645 35 3.5 (1)
>6x7 SMC 45 4 (1)
>6x7 SMC Tak 55 3.5 (1)
>6x7 SMC 55 4 (1)
>67 165 4 LS (1)
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Re: Favorite body, lens, film and more...

[Gianfranco Irlanda]

Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 06:58  PM, Jody wrote:
> > What, you think Aaron's gonna come
> > and get you or something?  I'm sure you really meant
> > to say LX there.
> 
> No, I'm sure that Gianfranco chose the 6x7 because he truly
loves the 
> 6x7, not because of any threats, perceived or otherwise.
> 
> RIGHT??

What could happen to me if I answer 'almost'???
;-D

Gianfranco

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Re: Favorite body, lens, film and more...

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 06:58  PM, Jody wrote:

>  --- Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Favorite body: 6x7

> What, you think Aaron's gonna come
> and get you or something?  I'm sure you really meant
> to say LX there.

No, I'm sure that Gianfranco chose the 6x7 because he truly loves the 
6x7, not because of any threats, perceived or otherwise.

RIGHT??

-Aaron

;)
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Re: Favorite body, lens, film and more...

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Friday, February 1, 2002, at 09:19  AM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
>
> Favorite body: 6x7

Hooray!  I knew you were one of the "good" people!  ;)

-Aaron
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Re: Favorite body, lens, film and more...

[Christian Skofteland]

On Friday 01 February 2002 09:19, Gianfranco wrote:
> Hi guys and gals,
>
> 
> But I choose the 6x7 
>
>
> Ciao,
>
> Gianfranco

Yeah, because Aaron was gonna kick your ass if you didn't! ;-)

Christian
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