Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Graywolf]

I worked in a canning plant for a few months when I was young. It was years 
before I was able to eat canned food again.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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mike wilson wrote:
From: "McRae, Max MS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I was told that it would be done to "food quality" standards, so expected total cleanliness.

You've never worked in the "food industry" have you?
mike
who remembers being told to shovel stuff off the floor to go into Walls' 
pies...
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Re: RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "McRae, Max MS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I was told that it would be done to "food quality" standards, so expected 
> total cleanliness.

You've never worked in the "food industry" have you?

mike

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pies...

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RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[williamsp]

Quoting "McRae, Max MS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I was told that it would be done to "food quality" standards, so expected
> total cleanliness.
> 

There are "food grade" lubes. That is probably what you got on your sensor.



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RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[McRae, Max MS]

John Forbes mentioned:

As an ex-diver, I would say that it wouldn't be a good idea to use the air  
from that compressor for diving either.  I'd rather have oil on my sensor  
than oil in my lungs.
In normal circs, air from a diving compressor should be pretty damn clean.

Yes, your right of course John, but I only use the tank to fill a precharged 
pnuematic
air rifle, and had just had the fittings and hose assembled to enable me to do 
that.
It was this hose that I thought would double nicely as a dust remover.
  
Even so I was suprised to learn that the shop where I got the work done had 
left the contaminant
in the hose.
I was told that it would be done to "food quality" standards, so expected total 
cleanliness.

Regards,

Max

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Mark Cassino]

Thanks for that update, Max - I was wondering what ever happened. Glad it 
was such a minor problem!

- MCC
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Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "McRae, Max MS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning


Mark Cassino inquired:
Who was it who posted about a problem trying to clean his sensor with 
scuba
gear (a flow of compressed air from his scuba tank.)
I missed the posts with the conclusion of that situation (if any ever
appeared), but it sounded like he had a problem on his hands.

That would be me...
Actually the problem was easily fixed by the Pentax importer's repair 
division.
What had happened was that there had been some sort of contaminant in the 
hose that
I used to decant from the tank.
I think it was a lubricating oil of some sort that had been used when the 
hose assembler
attached the fittings.

This residue was cleaned off, and it was returned to me as good as new.
The cost was minimal too, so a good outcome all round.
Not recommended to use scuba tanks on digital cameras...not even 
underwater ones!

Max

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[John Forbes]

As an ex-diver, I would say that it wouldn't be a good idea to use the air  
from that compressor for diving either.  I'd rather have oil on my sensor  
than oil in my lungs.

In normal circs, air from a diving compressor should be pretty damn clean.
John
On Tue, 03 May 2005 01:51:08 +0100, McRae, Max MS  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mark Cassino inquired:
Who was it who posted about a problem trying to clean his sensor with  
scuba
gear (a flow of compressed air from his scuba tank.)
I missed the posts with the conclusion of that situation (if any ever
appeared), but it sounded like he had a problem on his hands.

That would be me...
Actually the problem was easily fixed by the Pentax importer's repair  
division.
What had happened was that there had been some sort of contaminant in  
the hose that
I used to decant from the tank.
I think it was a lubricating oil of some sort that had been used when  
the hose assembler
attached the fittings.

This residue was cleaned off, and it was returned to me as good as new.
The cost was minimal too, so a good outcome all round.
Not recommended to use scuba tanks on digital cameras...not even  
underwater ones!

Max




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Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[williamsp]

Quoting Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I wonder if the pressure might cause damage?

I find it easy to imagine bending metal shutter curtain blades/leaves with high
pressure air bouncing off the sensor and along the shutter tracks.




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Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Chad" 
Subject: Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning


The CO2 blowers I use are moisture and residue free. They have been
filtered. I wonder if the pressure might cause damage?
They sem to be made of pretty stern stuff.
William Robb

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Chad]

The CO2 blowers I use are moisture and residue free. They have been
filtered. I wonder if the pressure might cause damage?

Chad

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[McRae, Max MS]

Mark Cassino inquired:
Who was it who posted about a problem trying to clean his sensor with scuba 
gear (a flow of compressed air from his scuba tank.)
I missed the posts with the conclusion of that situation (if any ever 
appeared), but it sounded like he had a problem on his hands.

That would be me...

Actually the problem was easily fixed by the Pentax importer's repair division.
What had happened was that there had been some sort of contaminant in the hose 
that
I used to decant from the tank.
I think it was a lubricating oil of some sort that had been used when the hose 
assembler
attached the fittings.

This residue was cleaned off, and it was returned to me as good as new.
The cost was minimal too, so a good outcome all round.

Not recommended to use scuba tanks on digital cameras...not even underwater 
ones!

Max
 

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[mike wilson]

Chad wrote:
Hello,
It is obvious not to use the standard canned air blower. I have not 
read much on using CO2 air, such as Leland or American Recorder. I
have used these products and they work fine. The gas contains no
residue and is pure. I have used CO2 gas to blow off  a lens, as well
as a CCD. I can find very little on this subject here or elsewhere on
forums. I wonder why? Have I just been lucky all this time?
There has been one report on this list of someone damaging the film on 
the front of the sensor (whether that was an anti-alias filter or not I 
think was not entirely clear) by using canned gas to remove dust.

mike

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Mark Cassino]

Who was it who posted about a problem trying to clean his sensor with scuba 
gear (a flow of compressed air from his scuba tank.)

I missed the posts with the conclusion of that situation (if any ever 
appeared), but it sounded like he had a problem on his hands.

- MCC
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Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning


Hello,
It is obvious not to use the standard canned air blower. I have not
read much on using CO2 air, such as Leland or American Recorder. I
have used these products and they work fine. The gas contains no
residue and is pure. I have used CO2 gas to blow off  a lens, as well
as a CCD. I can find very little on this subject here or elsewhere on
forums. I wonder why? Have I just been lucky all this time?
Chad
>I'm also currently using an inexpensive anti-static sensor cleaning
>brush on my
>*ist D sensor. It works OK but I have had some stubborn specs on the 
>sensor
>that needed to be attached using Isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip. I used to 
>use
>bottled compressed gas, it worked beautifully on the sensor and lenses 
>etc and
>is definitely my preferential cleaning tool however the rental on the 
>bottles
>became way too costly so I had to retire it.
>
>So now I'm considering purchasing a little compressor and dryer unit for 
>home
>as I miss being able to blast the dust of my cameras and lenses after a 
>photo
>expedition as I seem to end up with a lot of dust on and in my gear
>these days.
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Rob Studdert
>HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
>Tel +61-2-9554-4110
>UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
>Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Chad]

Hello,

It is obvious not to use the standard canned air blower. I have not 
read much on using CO2 air, such as Leland or American Recorder. I
have used these products and they work fine. The gas contains no
residue and is pure. I have used CO2 gas to blow off  a lens, as well
as a CCD. I can find very little on this subject here or elsewhere on
forums. I wonder why? Have I just been lucky all this time?

Chad

> >I'm also currently using an inexpensive anti-static sensor cleaning
> >brush on my
> >*ist D sensor. It works OK but I have had some stubborn specs on the sensor
> >that needed to be attached using Isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip. I used to use
> >bottled compressed gas, it worked beautifully on the sensor and lenses etc 
> >and
> >is definitely my preferential cleaning tool however the rental on the bottles
> >became way too costly so I had to retire it.
> >
> >So now I'm considering purchasing a little compressor and dryer unit for home
> >as I miss being able to blast the dust of my cameras and lenses after a photo
> >expedition as I seem to end up with a lot of dust on and in my gear
> >these days.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >
> >Rob Studdert
> >HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> >Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> >UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> >Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
>

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 11:32 AM -0400 4/10/05, Butch Black wrote:
Hi Alan
Welcome. There are a few of us living in Ma., though most of us are 
East. Unfortunately, we are not as organized as other geographic 
areas, so there is no MPDML yet. Toronto, D.C., N.Y.C., S.F., and a 
few other areas have informal groups that occasionally get together. 
I've been on the list for a few years now and have found it a wealth 
of knowledge in almost any subject imaginable.

Butch
I used to get to Boston fairly often and lived there in the mid-80s. 
These days I'm in New York much more often. We're about the same 
distant from either place. I'd definitely try to get to the Hub of 
the World if there was going to be a gathering.
--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts

Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 11:11 AM +1000 4/10/05, Rob Studdert wrote:
Hi Allen,
Welcome, the transition from lurker to active list participant can 
be strangely
stressful, 'tis good that you made the move.
This is a pretty friendly list. On the Streetphoto list it seems like 
newbies pretty often have to duke it out with our chosen champion, 
only getting accepted into the fold when they've proved they can take 
it!
Personally, I tend to grovel when I see a fight coming on...

I wonder if the compressors they use for airbrushing would be 
suitable? I believe they are oil-less and  probably a pretty clean 
air source even without extra filtering. Compressed air is great 
stuff to have around for a lot of reasons.

I'm also currently using an inexpensive anti-static sensor cleaning 
brush on my
*ist D sensor. It works OK but I have had some stubborn specs on the sensor
that needed to be attached using Isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip. I used to use
bottled compressed gas, it worked beautifully on the sensor and lenses etc and
is definitely my preferential cleaning tool however the rental on the bottles
became way too costly so I had to retire it.

So now I'm considering purchasing a little compressor and dryer unit for home
as I miss being able to blast the dust of my cameras and lenses after a photo
expedition as I seem to end up with a lot of dust on and in my gear 
these days.

Cheers,
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[David Savage]

LOL

Dave S

On Apr 10, 2005 8:57 PM, Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Sunday, April 10, 2005, 5:28:27 AM, David wrote:
> DS> Hey I do that (sometimes). But it's more in the hope that the dust
> DS> will fall out 
> 
> I wouldn't do that!
> Aren't you afraid that the poor little pixels will fall out too? You
> can't buy them dime a'dozen in the grocery store, you know...
> 
> :)
> 
> Good light!
>   fra
> 
>

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Frantisek]

Sunday, April 10, 2005, 5:28:27 AM, David wrote:
DS> Hey I do that (sometimes). But it's more in the hope that the dust
DS> will fall out 

I wouldn't do that!
Aren't you afraid that the poor little pixels will fall out too? You
can't buy them dime a'dozen in the grocery store, you know...

:)

Good light!
   fra

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Butch Black]

Hi Alan
Welcome. There are a few of us living in Ma., though most of us are East. 
Unfortunately, we are not as organized as other geographic areas, so there 
is no MPDML yet. Toronto, D.C., N.Y.C., S.F., and a few other areas have 
informal groups that occasionally get together. I've been on the list for a 
few years now and have found it a wealth of knowledge in almost any subject 
imaginable.

Butch 

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Paul Stenquist]

I keep my camera pointing down as much as possible when changing 
lenses. I also clean my sensors once a week with an ear syringe blower, 
whether I think they need it or not. I did it last night, and couldn't 
see a spec on either. But I think frequent cleanng keeps those specs 
from gaining a tight foothold. I've never had to resort to anything 
more severe than the syringe blower, and that's with two cameras and 21 
months/ 15000 frames of combined use.
Paul
On Apr 9, 2005, at 11:28 PM, David Savage wrote:

Hey I do that (sometimes). But it's more in the hope that the dust
will fall out 
Dave S
On Apr 10, 2005 11:20 AM, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

some photographers
even advocate facing cameras down when changing lenses so the dust 
doesn't "fall" in?

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[brooksdj]

Sorry for the caps on in my reply. Gotta look at the screen more.:-)

I have a set of swabs and fluid,but i'm to chicken to use them.

Dave

> Whatever's least invasive and does the job is probably the way to go. 
> It's not hard to see why the manufacturers wouldn't advise anyone to 
> go poking around in there with sticks. I've avoided canned air 
> applied directly and will probably pick up a hurricane blower at some 
> point. The clean soft brush approach seems fairly safe and it does 
> work. I'm definitely not brave enough to be rubbing it with wet 
> swabs. I can't say that it's been much of a problem so far. It will 
> be interesting to see what it's like this summer when I start 
> spending time at county fairs again.
> -- 
> Alan P. Hayes
 

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[David Savage]

Hey I do that (sometimes). But it's more in the hope that the dust
will fall out 

Dave S

On Apr 10, 2005 11:20 AM, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> some photographers
> even advocate facing cameras down when changing lenses so the dust doesn't 
> "fall" in?



>Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> 
>

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 12:05 PM +1000 4/10/05, Peter Williams wrote:
 > -Original Message-
 From: Alan P. Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I thought I would introduce myself.
Hello Alan,
at least one of your fellow SP listees is here.
I bought one of those ye olde match needle (LED really)
jobs about a month ago (Pentax MX).
The DS or it's succesor would be a likely choice if I
was going to go all dslr-ish.
--
Peter Williams
Yeah, we SPers do pop up here and there. We should have a secret handshake!
I never had a Pentax back in the olden days. It would have been a 
Spotmatic. My father was a histologist, which at the time meant 
taking a lot of pictures through microscopes, which meant that there 
were a lot of cameras around during my youth. I mostly used Mirandas, 
though my first SLR was a Praktica. TTL metering sure saved a lot of 
film!

When I got back into picture taking a few years ago. I realized that 
I was having to fight these automatic cameras in order to use them in 
a way I felt comfortable with. You have to spend quite a bit of money 
to get a digicam that treats you like a grown-up! The other thing 
about the Pentax that I like is that it's about the size of the 
manual SLRs. Other brands I'd looked at just felt too darn big to me.
--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts

Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[David Savage]

G'day John

I don't think it's a coincidence, zoom's do tend to suck air in & out.
I have't gone off zooms for this reason, I'm just trying to force
myself to think a bit more about composition.

Like you most of the dust I had was in there from day one. I put up
with it for quite awhile as it wasn't that hard to clone out the dust
spots. But after having to process a large batch of images it got
annoying real quick. :-)

Dave S

On Apr 10, 2005 11:01 AM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Savage mused:
> >
> >
> > WRT sensor cleaning, I've had my *ist D since November '04 and to date
> > I've gotten away with only needing to use a blower. I haven't had to
> > clean the sensor for about 2 months, since I switched from using zooms
> > to primes.
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder if this is anything more than coincidence.
> 
> I had to clean my sensor a couple of times very soon after the
> initial purchase, but have noticed that the need to do so has
> become far less frequent over time, even though I'm still using
> zooms (and still changing lenses fairly frequently).
> 
>

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Rob Studdert]

On 10 Apr 2005 at 13:03, Peter Williams wrote:

> I think I saw a theory that zooms act like a pump and suck
> in air (complete with dust) to the camera body.

Quite a few primes also breathe quite a lot of air when focused, macro lenses 
without IF for instance. However I don't know if it adds significantly to dust 
ingress. I've heard all sort of dust avoidance theories, some photographers 
even advocate facing cameras down when changing lenses so the dust doesn't 
"fall" in? I prefer to just to clean it out when it becomes problematic. :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 10:39 AM +0800 4/10/05, David Savage wrote:
G'day Alan,
Greetings from a fellow newbie. You've got some nice pictures there.
You and Frank seem to share the "focus is optional" philosophy :-)
Well, it is! It's just that most people do seem to opt for it instead 
of against. I take focused pictures too, just try not to favor them 
excessively!

And  thanks, glad you liked them!

WRT sensor cleaning, I've had my *ist D since November '04 and to date
I've gotten away with only needing to use a blower. I haven't had to
clean the sensor for about 2 months, since I switched from using zooms
to primes.
Dave S

When I realized that it was an issue, I got scared and decided I'd 
better find out what was up with it. So I looked into the various 
techniques. I'll see what it's like when I get out in the dust, but 
so far it hasn't been much of a problem. That sounds backwards, 
though, I'd think that using primes would mean more switching, hence 
more exposure to dust. Or is there airflow through the lens?


On Apr 10, 2005 3:27 AM, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Having managed to keep up with this list for the last 20,000 or so
 posts, I thought I would introduce myself. I've recently acquired an
 istD after owning a succession of digital point and shoots over the
 last few years. Prior to that my only photographic experience was
 long ago, when match needle TTL metering was the latest thing. I
 still find myself approach these new cameras with a manual bias.
 If anyone's interested you can see some of my pictures at the url
 listed in my sig, below. Those are a little out there's other more
 normal stuff here:
 
 and
 
 and
 
 On sensor cleaning, I've been following this fellow's advice and
 using a cosmetics brush. His approach seems to make sense and work
 pretty well, and it's cheap to boot!

 This is a well named list, the members display a prodigious knowledge
 of things Pentax and a prodigious ability to discuss...almost
 anything!
 --
 Alan P. Hayes
 Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
 Pittsfield, Massachusetts
 Photographs at
 http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm


--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Peter Williams]

> -Original Message-
> From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I haven't had toclean the sensor for about 2 months,
> > since I switched from using zooms to primes.
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder if this is anything more than coincidence.
> 

I think I saw a theory that zooms act like a pump and suck
in air (complete with dust) to the camera body.

-- 
Peter Williams 

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[John Francis]

David Savage mused:
> 
> 
> WRT sensor cleaning, I've had my *ist D since November '04 and to date
> I've gotten away with only needing to use a blower. I haven't had to
> clean the sensor for about 2 months, since I switched from using zooms
> to primes.

I'm beginning to wonder if this is anything more than coincidence.

I had to clean my sensor a couple of times very soon after the
initial purchase, but have noticed that the need to do so has
become far less frequent over time, even though I'm still using
zooms (and still changing lenses fairly frequently).

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[David Savage]

G'day Alan,

Greetings from a fellow newbie. You've got some nice pictures there.
You and Frank seem to share the "focus is optional" philosophy :-)

WRT sensor cleaning, I've had my *ist D since November '04 and to date
I've gotten away with only needing to use a blower. I haven't had to
clean the sensor for about 2 months, since I switched from using zooms
to primes.

Dave S



On Apr 10, 2005 3:27 AM, Alan P. Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Having managed to keep up with this list for the last 20,000 or so
> posts, I thought I would introduce myself. I've recently acquired an
> istD after owning a succession of digital point and shoots over the
> last few years. Prior to that my only photographic experience was
> long ago, when match needle TTL metering was the latest thing. I
> still find myself approach these new cameras with a manual bias.
> If anyone's interested you can see some of my pictures at the url
> listed in my sig, below. Those are a little out there's other more
> normal stuff here:
> 
> and
> 
> and
> 
> 
> On sensor cleaning, I've been following this fellow's advice and
> using a cosmetics brush. His approach seems to make sense and work
> pretty well, and it's cheap to boot!
> 
> 
> 
> This is a well named list, the members display a prodigious knowledge
> of things Pentax and a prodigious ability to discuss...almost
> anything!
> --
> Alan P. Hayes
> Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
> Pittsfield, Massachusetts
> 
> Photographs at
> http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm
> 
>

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Peter Williams]

> -Original Message-
> From: Alan P. Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I thought I would introduce myself.
>

Hello Alan,
at least one of your fellow SP listees is here.
I bought one of those ye olde match needle (LED really)
jobs about a month ago (Pentax MX).
The DS or it's succesor would be a likely choice if I
was going to go all dslr-ish.

-- 
Peter Williams 
 

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Rob Studdert]

On 9 Apr 2005 at 20:32, Alan P. Hayes wrote:

> Whatever's least invasive and does the job is probably the way to go. 
> It's not hard to see why the manufacturers wouldn't advise anyone to 
> go poking around in there with sticks. I've avoided canned air 
> applied directly and will probably pick up a hurricane blower at some 
> point. The clean soft brush approach seems fairly safe and it does 
> work. I'm definitely not brave enough to be rubbing it with wet 
> swabs. I can't say that it's been much of a problem so far. It will 
> be interesting to see what it's like this summer when I start 
> spending time at county fairs again.

Hi Allen,

Welcome, the transition from lurker to active list participant can be strangely 
stressful, 'tis good that you made the move.

I'm also currently using an inexpensive anti-static sensor cleaning brush on my 
*ist D sensor. It works OK but I have had some stubborn specs on the sensor 
that needed to be attached using Isopropyl alcohol on a Q-tip. I used to use 
bottled compressed gas, it worked beautifully on the sensor and lenses etc and 
is definitely my preferential cleaning tool however the rental on the bottles 
became way too costly so I had to retire it. 

So now I'm considering purchasing a little compressor and dryer unit for home 
as I miss being able to blast the dust of my cameras and lenses after a photo 
expedition as I seem to end up with a lot of dust on and in my gear these days.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 7:30 PM -0400 4/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Alan and welcome the mehame
Alan. I have owned Dslr's since 2001 and non of the major 
players,Nikon,Canon and Pentax
suggest
self dustoff.
No one i know in the Dslr shooting business uses canned air. Thats 
justa disater waiting
to happen.

I use a hurricane blower and when dust gets to stubborn, its off to 
the mfg. At least if
they F^^k
it up i can sue,or MARY WHAT EVER WORKS
Dave

 > 

Whatever's least invasive and does the job is probably the way to go. 
It's not hard to see why the manufacturers wouldn't advise anyone to 
go poking around in there with sticks. I've avoided canned air 
applied directly and will probably pick up a hurricane blower at some 
point. The clean soft brush approach seems fairly safe and it does 
work. I'm definitely not brave enough to be rubbing it with wet 
swabs. I can't say that it's been much of a problem so far. It will 
be interesting to see what it's like this summer when I start 
spending time at county fairs again.
--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts

Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 9/4/05, Alan P. Hayes, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>
>>and
>>
>>and
>>
>
>Bloody hell an artist!

Swipe me, he paints with light!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[brooksdj]

 
Hi Alan and welcome the mehame
> Having managed to keep up with this 
list for the last 20,000 or so 
> posts, I thought I would introduce myself. I've recently acquired an 
> istD after owning a succession of digital point and shoots over the 
> last few years. Prior to that my only photographic experience was 
> long ago, when match needle TTL metering was the latest thing. I 
> still find myself approach these new cameras with a manual bias.
> If anyone's interested you can see some of my pictures at the url 
> listed in my sig, below. Those are a little out there's other more 
> normal stuff here:
> 
> and
> 
> and
> 
> 
> On sensor cleaning, I've been following this fellow's advice and 
> using a cosmetics brush. His approach seems to make sense and work 
> pretty well, and it's cheap to boot!
Alan. I have owned Dslr's since 2001 and non of the major players,Nikon,Canon 
and Pentax
suggest
self dustoff.
No one i know in the Dslr shooting business uses canned air. Thats justa 
disater waiting
to happen.

I use a hurricane blower and when dust gets to stubborn, its off to the mfg. At 
least if
they F^^k
it up i can sue,or MARY WHAT EVER WORKS
Dave
> 
> 
> 
> This is a well named list, the members display a prodigious knowledge 
> of things Pentax and a prodigious ability to discuss...almost 
> anything!
> -- 
> Alan P. Hayes
> Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
> Pittsfield, Massachusetts
> 
> Photographs at
> http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm
> 

RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Don Sanderson]

Is he related to Frank? ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Alan P. Hayes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:17 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning
> 
> 
> At 9:50 PM +0100 4/9/05, Cotty wrote:
> >On 9/4/05, Alan P. Hayes, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >><http://www.ahayesphoto.com/carnival2/index.html>
> >>and
> >><http://www.ahayesphoto.com/glare/index.htm>
> >>and
> >><http://www.ahayesphoto.com/blurrysite/blurindex.html>
> >
> >Yo Alan,
> >
> >welcome.
> >
> >Bloody hell an artist!
> >
> 
> Since I can't be bothered to hold the camera straight or steady, and 
> seem to have more than a bit of trouble focusing, I figured it was my 
> best bet! :-)
> 
> >
> >
> >Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> >
> >
> >___/\__
> >||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
> >||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
> >_
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alan P. Hayes
> Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
> Pittsfield, Massachusetts
> 
> Photographs at
> http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm
> 

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

At 9:50 PM +0100 4/9/05, Cotty wrote:
On 9/4/05, Alan P. Hayes, discombobulated, unleashed:

and

and

Yo Alan,
welcome.
Bloody hell an artist!
Since I can't be bothered to hold the camera straight or steady, and 
seem to have more than a bit of trouble focusing, I figured it was my 
best bet! :-)


Cheers,
  Cotty
___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts
Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm

Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Cotty]

On 9/4/05, Alan P. Hayes, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>and
>
>and
>

Yo Alan,

welcome.

Bloody hell an artist!




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_

Hello and Sensor cleaning

[Alan P. Hayes]

Having managed to keep up with this list for the last 20,000 or so 
posts, I thought I would introduce myself. I've recently acquired an 
istD after owning a succession of digital point and shoots over the 
last few years. Prior to that my only photographic experience was 
long ago, when match needle TTL metering was the latest thing. I 
still find myself approach these new cameras with a manual bias.
If anyone's interested you can see some of my pictures at the url 
listed in my sig, below. Those are a little out there's other more 
normal stuff here:

and

and


On sensor cleaning, I've been following this fellow's advice and 
using a cosmetics brush. His approach seems to make sense and work 
pretty well, and it's cheap to boot!


This is a well named list, the members display a prodigious knowledge 
of things Pentax and a prodigious ability to discuss...almost 
anything!
--
Alan P. Hayes
Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design
Pittsfield, Massachusetts

Photographs at
http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm