Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
Good thing his father didn't have the Summicron. Paul On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 12/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. I have a friend named Elmar (after the Leica lens), he seems pretty well balanced and not at all angry ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
What about Shneider-Kreuznach ? =D 2007/4/11, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Good thing his father didn't have the Summicron. Paul On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:37 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 12/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. I have a friend named Elmar (after the Leica lens), he seems pretty well balanced and not at all angry ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Digital Image Studio wrote: Well I did think about all you guys, Dave is common as muck amongst my family and friends as is Willy, so Tom won ;-) Am I the only person to name their kid after one of the greatest cameras ever made: Alex (not Alexis or Alexandra; just Alex as in LX) :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
On Apr 11, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Christian wrote: Well I did think about all you guys, Dave is common as muck amongst my family and friends as is Willy, so Tom won ;-) Am I the only person to name their kid after one of the greatest cameras ever made: Alex (not Alexis or Alexandra; just Alex as in LX) :-) I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 12/04/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. I have a friend named Elmar (after the Leica lens), he seems pretty well balanced and not at all angry ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
If I were the offspring in question, I doubt I'd wait that long. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I dunno. If I ever had a child, naming him/her Esse Uu See after the Hasselblad SWC might get me a punch in the nose when he/she reached their majority. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/04/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/10/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's a cute guy Rob. I never got around to telling you how gratified I was that you decided to name him after me. :-) You could have named him William, but... Tom C. I lobbied for David, but apparently it's too common. :-D Well I did think about all you guys, Dave is common as muck amongst my family and friends as is Willy, so Tom won ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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At 06:57 AM 11/04/2007, Digital Image Studio wrote: Dave is common as muck... Oi!!! But so true. Cheers, Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
He's a cute guy Rob. I never got around to telling you how gratified I was that you decided to name him after me. :-) You could have named him William, but... Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 22:36:11 -0400 Hi Rob, Welcome back. I haven't noticed any rotational problems with the K10, but I'm used to having to correct my rotation a bit. I do notice better exposure control by using program mode with auto ISO and the best aperture program line. (Can't remember what they call it M something, something.). This seems to work for me. When it doesn't , I turn the wheels and switch out of program. Again, good to see you here. Just this morning, I was wondering when we'd hear from you again. Best, paul On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: Hi Team, I'm back from three weeks in the UK and Ireland, unfortunately I was unable to deviate from the schedule that I was set and consequently I sadly missed out catching up with a handful of PDMLers but there's always next time I guess :-( I shot almost more images in three weeks than I had over the previous year however most were family oriented, not really subjects that I was able to explore purely as photographic studies. We only had a couple of days where we were sight seeing of sorts and then we were with others and rushed so seeing the photo ops just pass by was a little frustrating. In any case it's the first time that I've used the K10D on any trip longer than a weekend so I've come to appreciate it's strengths and weaknesses. Firstly no arguments it served me well, I love the speed of the thing and going back to the rear display size of the *ist D is a real shock however it wasn't all roses. The extra bulk wasn't too bad but then I was working out of a big pack, I have to find a new case for my three lens kit as it just doesn't fit the cases my *ist D does. I found that the battery became exhausted in the order of 350-400 shots with a little chimping (can't avoid it in low light work) and yes I did get caught once with flat battery (out on Lough Ree). I've mentioned it before but now know that I really don't like the operation of the WB system as flash as it is, I don't like not being able to just glance down at the top LCD to see what WB I have selected. I still wish that there was a dedicated WB button and more WB memories, I tended to use AWB as setting WB is such a hassle. I've been using Av with the auto exposure program set to normal and Aperture on the front wheel and ISO on the rear wheel with ISO in Auto (100-800) on start-up. This would be an ideal combination for me but for the fact that regardless of the exposure program mode and known lens FL/SR enabled the exposure system when set to auto ISO prefers to set a high ISO than lower the shutter speed. In many instances ie when using a 16mm lens I would find the system setting the shutter at 1/100th and the ISO at 800 when I could have been shooting at 1/8th without a problem. I wish there was some way to properly control this important aspect of auto exposure system operation. The other irritating peculiarity that I noticed was that all my shots are rotated by 1.5-2 degree CCW, I haven't investigated the issue fully but with SR off the camera has less rotational error than my *ist D had and I never experienced this phenomenon when shooting it. However the K10D screen (focus brackets) seems to be out by 0.65 degrees and the outside frame by 0.9 degrees so that's a start (refitting the screen didn't alter this). I am suspect of the SR system but I will test my theory properly when I have time. I'd love to hear from anyone else with similar observations, I've seen a few similar posts at dpreview since the K10Ds release but no mention here. I've pretty much moved over to Picasa to display my late images on the web, it's a great tool for organizing images, producing galleries and quick edits plus I can push the images to the web and produce a polished CD in very limited time. I've been shooting RAW+ 2MP jpg so using Picasa whilst I was traveling I could very quickly DL/process and update web pages for everyone concerned to view (I shot a two day wedding and had the images on the web the day after). It can even manage *ist D RAW files (for the benefit of Frank the new Digi-Boy). So what have I missed of the couple of months, anything interesting that I should know about? PS I have galleries from the trip but due to their nature I don't wish to bring them into the public domain however if any of you are interested drop me a private email and I'll send you some links. As my primary job is currently stay at home dad and house keeper I tend to have limited
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
On 4/10/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's a cute guy Rob. I never got around to telling you how gratified I was that you decided to name him after me. :-) You could have named him William, but... Tom C. I lobbied for David, but apparently it's too common. :-D Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Rob ;) I did not notice any problem with WB except the need to manually specify Tungsten when needed. Other than that it offers far more tweaking possibilities than any other cameras I've seen. About Auto-Iso and P mode: What is your custom setting for Program mode? Speed, depth,MTF or normal? Maybe it has an influence (I did not check). Maybe using SV or TAV mode would be a valuable alternative to using P mode with Auto ISO? Personnaly I don't really the point in using those two together. If I really want certain AV/TV setting, TAV is there exactly for this. And SV + program bias if ISO is critical. Well that's how I see it. About Viewfinder rotation: did not notice specific problem but indeed (just like my ist-d) ensor and viewfinder are never exactly aligned so if horizontal placement is critical I shoot one and check on the LCD with max zoom and correct till I'm satisfied. Takes time but works well. Of course, would be better if aligned correctly. I don't shoot RAW+Jpeg anymore. I takes card space and if I need a Jpeg anytime (for quick printing e.g. on a Canon Selphy) the camera can produce a Jpeg from Raw anyway (yes you can even change WB when doing that). Hope it helps. Happy to know you're back, Rob, even if you don't write 10 times a day ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark, My youngest is 22, but in the old days (ME film) I tried to get the kids and wife posed into some of those great scenes. Sometimes it worked out very well. And the shots are more memorable for having the family in them. Regards, Bob S. On 4/6/07, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the looks of your Picasa gallery, it seems like your photography has taken a hard-right (or -left) into baby-picture-land. That's been my life since my daughter was born. 19 months and around 3000 images later, I'm getting better at portrait photos and I have a handful of shots that I think transcend the usual family photos. Personal pleasure shooting is hard to balance into the mix, but it cam be done. My most productive sessions since my daughter was born have been family walk-around trips where I got a bunch of grab shots. I'll look forward to seeing some UK/Ireland shots when they go up --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 08/04/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pictures of your son are great. Is he going for a mohawk haircut and that punk rocker look? ;-) Seriously, nice to see Thomas growing and becoming more expressive. It's fun to see the family enjoy your son. Hi Bob, Thanks, the little guy was certainly well received by his remote relatives. The hair I can do nothing about (his mother will not let me attack it), it just looks like a bad comb-over. I must admit I've teased it a bit for some of the photos, he can blame his mother on his 21st when the pictures reappear ;-) Picassa is great. I used it on my trip to Oz NZ last year. It was easy to keep folks up to date from my laptop on the road. I'm liking it, pity it's so cut down (ie no real control over where db files can be stored, old albums can't be hidden, limited RAW support and no DNG support) but it did the intended job well for me. Now about that Voightlander 135mm lens... I'm not selling it just yet ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 08/04/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob ;) I did not notice any problem with WB except the need to manually specify Tungsten when needed. Other than that it offers far more tweaking possibilities than any other cameras I've seen. Hi Thibouille, It's the interface that's my gripe, not the function per se, tweaking is fine but really I don't trust the rear screen cal and in most cases the ambient light prevents it from being remotely useful for colour appraisal. The way I prefer to work is by using fixed WB and sampled WB and not being able to glance down at the screen to see what WB is selected is a pain. I do know it's available on the rear LCD by pressing the info button but I think it should have been primary information as are the majority of other indicators shown in the top LCD. The *ist D WB selector was decried by some but it's better to use than the K10D implementation in my opinion and the *ist D WB system never left me wanting in over 20k of images so it must have been OK (I virtually never used AWB on the *ist D) About Auto-Iso and P mode: What is your custom setting for Program mode? Speed, depth,MTF or normal? Maybe it has an influence (I did not check). Unfortunately not. Maybe using SV or TAV mode would be a valuable alternative to using P mode with Auto ISO? Personnaly I don't really the point in using those two together. If I really want certain AV/TV setting, TAV is there exactly for this. And SV + program bias if ISO is critical. Well that's how I see it. Too much fiddling around for me, I tend to work in Av and manual and on the odd occasion Tv. In TAv and Sv modes I just get distracted from making photos. About Viewfinder rotation: did not notice specific problem but indeed (just like my ist-d) ensor and viewfinder are never exactly aligned so if horizontal placement is critical I shoot one and check on the LCD with max zoom and correct till I'm satisfied. Takes time but works well. Of course, would be better if aligned correctly. Indeed, I do thing close to 1 degree out for the finder frame is a bit excessive though, most people can detect well under a 1 degree rotation of a picture hanging on a wall. I don't shoot RAW+Jpeg anymore. I takes card space and if I need a Jpeg anytime (for quick printing e.g. on a Canon Selphy) the camera can produce a Jpeg from Raw anyway (yes you can even change WB when doing that). For a shoot of 750+ images I wouldn't fancy doing in camera developing, for how I work shooting RAW+JPG works well and the little 2MP jpeg images are only about 850k and most people can't believe the quality compared to their 7+MP PS digicams. Happy to know you're back, Rob, even if you don't write 10 times a day ;) Thanks, I should be a bit quieter (much to most peoples delight I expect) ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
Hi Rob, good to hear from you again. Nice pictures. Shame you couldn't escape while you were over here though. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: 07 April 2007 02:51 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs Hi Team, I'm back from three weeks in the UK and Ireland, unfortunately I was unable to deviate from the schedule that I was set and consequently I sadly missed out catching up with a handful of PDMLers but there's always next time I guess :-( [...] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Rob, Glad to see you made it home safely. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi, Lovely pictures, I envy you having a good camera while your son is that young, my memories from 8 years ago are recorded on a 640x480 PS. Glad you enjoyed our little country. Cheers, Andy. Digital Image Studio wrote: Hi Team, I'm back from three weeks in the UK and Ireland, unfortunately I was unable to deviate from the schedule that I was set and consequently I sadly missed out catching up with a handful of PDMLers but there's always next time I guess :-( I shot almost more images in three weeks than I had over the previous year however most were family oriented, not really subjects that I was able to explore purely as photographic studies. We only had a couple of days where we were sight seeing of sorts and then we were with others and rushed so seeing the photo ops just pass by was a little frustrating. In any case it's the first time that I've used the K10D on any trip longer than a weekend so I've come to appreciate it's strengths and weaknesses. Firstly no arguments it served me well, I love the speed of the thing and going back to the rear display size of the *ist D is a real shock however it wasn't all roses. The extra bulk wasn't too bad but then I was working out of a big pack, I have to find a new case for my three lens kit as it just doesn't fit the cases my *ist D does. I found that the battery became exhausted in the order of 350-400 shots with a little chimping (can't avoid it in low light work) and yes I did get caught once with flat battery (out on Lough Ree). I've mentioned it before but now know that I really don't like the operation of the WB system as flash as it is, I don't like not being able to just glance down at the top LCD to see what WB I have selected. I still wish that there was a dedicated WB button and more WB memories, I tended to use AWB as setting WB is such a hassle. I've been using Av with the auto exposure program set to normal and Aperture on the front wheel and ISO on the rear wheel with ISO in Auto (100-800) on start-up. This would be an ideal combination for me but for the fact that regardless of the exposure program mode and known lens FL/SR enabled the exposure system when set to auto ISO prefers to set a high ISO than lower the shutter speed. In many instances ie when using a 16mm lens I would find the system setting the shutter at 1/100th and the ISO at 800 when I could have been shooting at 1/8th without a problem. I wish there was some way to properly control this important aspect of auto exposure system operation. The other irritating peculiarity that I noticed was that all my shots are rotated by 1.5-2 degree CCW, I haven't investigated the issue fully but with SR off the camera has less rotational error than my *ist D had and I never experienced this phenomenon when shooting it. However the K10D screen (focus brackets) seems to be out by 0.65 degrees and the outside frame by 0.9 degrees so that's a start (refitting the screen didn't alter this). I am suspect of the SR system but I will test my theory properly when I have time. I'd love to hear from anyone else with similar observations, I've seen a few similar posts at dpreview since the K10Ds release but no mention here. I've pretty much moved over to Picasa to display my late images on the web, it's a great tool for organizing images, producing galleries and quick edits plus I can push the images to the web and produce a polished CD in very limited time. I've been shooting RAW+ 2MP jpg so using Picasa whilst I was traveling I could very quickly DL/process and update web pages for everyone concerned to view (I shot a two day wedding and had the images on the web the day after). It can even manage *ist D RAW files (for the benefit of Frank the new Digi-Boy). So what have I missed of the couple of months, anything interesting that I should know about? PS I have galleries from the trip but due to their nature I don't wish to bring them into the public domain however if any of you are interested drop me a private email and I'll send you some links. As my primary job is currently stay at home dad and house keeper I tend to have limited subjects to shoot so my little guy bears the brunt of this frustration in the way of being a captive subject, so if you are interested in see my kid pics check the following link: http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI Cheers, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hmmm... TinyURL did not work right for me. Here is the link I intended originally: http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas/photo?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI#5050156771071105682 Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
On 07/04/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob, good to hear from you again. Nice pictures. Shame you couldn't escape while you were over here though. Hi Bob, Thanks, I really would have liked to get to see you again and meet some of the new UK PDMLer however on this mission I was a consort without my own agenda. Ryan Air and Flybe had a little to do with it however next time (which should be sooner than six years I hope) I'll ensure that I have some time and I'll give everyone interested fair warning. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fair warning will be nice indeed ;-). Boris-not-British Digital Image Studio wrote: On 07/04/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob, good to hear from you again. Nice pictures. Shame you couldn't escape while you were over here though. Hi Bob, Thanks, I really would have liked to get to see you again and meet some of the new UK PDMLer however on this mission I was a consort without my own agenda. Ryan Air and Flybe had a little to do with it however next time (which should be sooner than six years I hope) I'll ensure that I have some time and I'll give everyone interested fair warning. Cheers, -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 07/04/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob. Hi Boris, Strange, I only just received your email though it was sent hours ago, the vagaries of the net? Long time no chat. http://tinyurl.com/yqmc5z -- you (it is you, right?) look very much like Connor McLeod here ;-). Well I've been called many things in the past Boris but hey thanks (though I'm not sure that my Irish/English ancestors would approve) ;-) As for your obs about K10D... I never managed to produce leveled images handheld consistently - neither with *istD nor with K10D. Having bought a monopod improved things some. However when I do align the lines in the viewfinder with focus bracket marks and when I manage to keep it this way throughout the exposure ;-) - it comes out all right. I have a mono-pod however its uses are pretty limited for me, I've just never experienced such consistent errors in my work and it's much more satisfying to blame the equipment. My preferred mode of operation is very similar to yours: P-mode (I just love hyper program two wheeled operation) with Auto ISO set to 100-400... It seems to work properly for me. In fact, my observation is that it would raise the ISO only at the last resort. I just tested my K10D again and it seems that regardless of the metering program the camera will not start pumping up the ISO at 1/30th with my DA16-45 at 16mm and from 1/100th with my A16/2.8 FE (even though I've set the FL for SR to 15mm). So it's not really working for me. You see, generally as a ballpark auto WB works for me. Then (having finally shelled out cash for Adobe LightRoom) I can adjust it in post processing. Although auto WB of my K10D is much more to the point than that of *istD. Setting WB visually using a little rear screen is simply not an option for me and the whole process is far too complicated, I want to know how come Oly got it right so many years ago on their first E body and Pentax still haven't caught on. :-( Finally, thanks to certain folks here, I did buy the Adobe LightRoom and I love it immensely. Just yesterday I sat down and processed two dozen images in less than an hour. It does amaze me how fluent and user oriented is its whole concept. LR sounds like a fabulous tool but while I was traveling I found Picasa extremely practical. I didn't take a PC on my travels, instead I had Picasa and some other utils on a dedicated 2GB USB/SD card in my wallet. I loaded Picasa on the systems of the people who I was staying with, all legal and a benefit to them ultimately. I brought back all the working Picasa db files on the card and uploaded them to my system when I got home. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 4/7/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/04/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob. Hi Boris, Strange, I only just received your email though it was sent hours ago, the vagaries of the net? The vagaries of Gmail. I got it when it was originally sent at my other address, but it took 8 hours to show up via Gmal. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 7/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: The vagaries of Gmail. I got it when it was originally sent at my other address, but it took 8 hours to show up via Gmal. oh dear poppet there there ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Rob, Nice to hear from you again. The pictures of your son are great. Is he going for a mohawk haircut and that punk rocker look? ;-) Seriously, nice to see Thomas growing and becoming more expressive. It's fun to see the family enjoy your son. I can't comment on the horizontal issue. I'm not consistent enough. Picassa is great. I used it on my trip to Oz NZ last year. It was easy to keep folks up to date from my laptop on the road. Now about that Voightlander 135mm lens... Regards, Bob S. On 4/6/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Team, I'm back from three weeks in the UK and Ireland, unfortunately I was unable to deviate from the schedule that I was set and consequently I sadly missed out catching up with a handful of PDMLers but there's always next time I guess :-( I shot almost more images in three weeks than I had over the previous year however most were family oriented, not really subjects that I was able to explore purely as photographic studies. We only had a couple of days where we were sight seeing of sorts and then we were with others and rushed so seeing the photo ops just pass by was a little frustrating. In any case it's the first time that I've used the K10D on any trip longer than a weekend so I've come to appreciate it's strengths and weaknesses. Firstly no arguments it served me well, I love the speed of the thing and going back to the rear display size of the *ist D is a real shock however it wasn't all roses. The extra bulk wasn't too bad but then I was working out of a big pack, I have to find a new case for my three lens kit as it just doesn't fit the cases my *ist D does. I found that the battery became exhausted in the order of 350-400 shots with a little chimping (can't avoid it in low light work) and yes I did get caught once with flat battery (out on Lough Ree). I've mentioned it before but now know that I really don't like the operation of the WB system as flash as it is, I don't like not being able to just glance down at the top LCD to see what WB I have selected. I still wish that there was a dedicated WB button and more WB memories, I tended to use AWB as setting WB is such a hassle. I've been using Av with the auto exposure program set to normal and Aperture on the front wheel and ISO on the rear wheel with ISO in Auto (100-800) on start-up. This would be an ideal combination for me but for the fact that regardless of the exposure program mode and known lens FL/SR enabled the exposure system when set to auto ISO prefers to set a high ISO than lower the shutter speed. In many instances ie when using a 16mm lens I would find the system setting the shutter at 1/100th and the ISO at 800 when I could have been shooting at 1/8th without a problem. I wish there was some way to properly control this important aspect of auto exposure system operation. The other irritating peculiarity that I noticed was that all my shots are rotated by 1.5-2 degree CCW, I haven't investigated the issue fully but with SR off the camera has less rotational error than my *ist D had and I never experienced this phenomenon when shooting it. However the K10D screen (focus brackets) seems to be out by 0.65 degrees and the outside frame by 0.9 degrees so that's a start (refitting the screen didn't alter this). I am suspect of the SR system but I will test my theory properly when I have time. I'd love to hear from anyone else with similar observations, I've seen a few similar posts at dpreview since the K10Ds release but no mention here. I've pretty much moved over to Picasa to display my late images on the web, it's a great tool for organizing images, producing galleries and quick edits plus I can push the images to the web and produce a polished CD in very limited time. I've been shooting RAW+ 2MP jpg so using Picasa whilst I was traveling I could very quickly DL/process and update web pages for everyone concerned to view (I shot a two day wedding and had the images on the web the day after). It can even manage *ist D RAW files (for the benefit of Frank the new Digi-Boy). So what have I missed of the couple of months, anything interesting that I should know about? PS I have galleries from the trip but due to their nature I don't wish to bring them into the public domain however if any of you are interested drop me a private email and I'll send you some links. As my primary job is currently stay at home dad and house keeper I tend to have limited subjects to shoot so my little guy bears the brunt of this frustration in the way of being a captive subject, so if you are interested in see my kid pics check the following link: http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
On 4/8/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: The vagaries of Gmail. I got it when it was originally sent at my other address, but it took 8 hours to show up via Gmal. oh dear poppet there there ;-) Cheeky sod ;-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
Hi Team, I'm back from three weeks in the UK and Ireland, unfortunately I was unable to deviate from the schedule that I was set and consequently I sadly missed out catching up with a handful of PDMLers but there's always next time I guess :-( I shot almost more images in three weeks than I had over the previous year however most were family oriented, not really subjects that I was able to explore purely as photographic studies. We only had a couple of days where we were sight seeing of sorts and then we were with others and rushed so seeing the photo ops just pass by was a little frustrating. In any case it's the first time that I've used the K10D on any trip longer than a weekend so I've come to appreciate it's strengths and weaknesses. Firstly no arguments it served me well, I love the speed of the thing and going back to the rear display size of the *ist D is a real shock however it wasn't all roses. The extra bulk wasn't too bad but then I was working out of a big pack, I have to find a new case for my three lens kit as it just doesn't fit the cases my *ist D does. I found that the battery became exhausted in the order of 350-400 shots with a little chimping (can't avoid it in low light work) and yes I did get caught once with flat battery (out on Lough Ree). I've mentioned it before but now know that I really don't like the operation of the WB system as flash as it is, I don't like not being able to just glance down at the top LCD to see what WB I have selected. I still wish that there was a dedicated WB button and more WB memories, I tended to use AWB as setting WB is such a hassle. I've been using Av with the auto exposure program set to normal and Aperture on the front wheel and ISO on the rear wheel with ISO in Auto (100-800) on start-up. This would be an ideal combination for me but for the fact that regardless of the exposure program mode and known lens FL/SR enabled the exposure system when set to auto ISO prefers to set a high ISO than lower the shutter speed. In many instances ie when using a 16mm lens I would find the system setting the shutter at 1/100th and the ISO at 800 when I could have been shooting at 1/8th without a problem. I wish there was some way to properly control this important aspect of auto exposure system operation. The other irritating peculiarity that I noticed was that all my shots are rotated by 1.5-2 degree CCW, I haven't investigated the issue fully but with SR off the camera has less rotational error than my *ist D had and I never experienced this phenomenon when shooting it. However the K10D screen (focus brackets) seems to be out by 0.65 degrees and the outside frame by 0.9 degrees so that's a start (refitting the screen didn't alter this). I am suspect of the SR system but I will test my theory properly when I have time. I'd love to hear from anyone else with similar observations, I've seen a few similar posts at dpreview since the K10Ds release but no mention here. I've pretty much moved over to Picasa to display my late images on the web, it's a great tool for organizing images, producing galleries and quick edits plus I can push the images to the web and produce a polished CD in very limited time. I've been shooting RAW+ 2MP jpg so using Picasa whilst I was traveling I could very quickly DL/process and update web pages for everyone concerned to view (I shot a two day wedding and had the images on the web the day after). It can even manage *ist D RAW files (for the benefit of Frank the new Digi-Boy). So what have I missed of the couple of months, anything interesting that I should know about? PS I have galleries from the trip but due to their nature I don't wish to bring them into the public domain however if any of you are interested drop me a private email and I'll send you some links. As my primary job is currently stay at home dad and house keeper I tend to have limited subjects to shoot so my little guy bears the brunt of this frustration in the way of being a captive subject, so if you are interested in see my kid pics check the following link: http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
Hi Rob, Welcome back. I haven't noticed any rotational problems with the K10, but I'm used to having to correct my rotation a bit. I do notice better exposure control by using program mode with auto ISO and the best aperture program line. (Can't remember what they call it M something, something.). This seems to work for me. When it doesn't , I turn the wheels and switch out of program. Again, good to see you here. Just this morning, I was wondering when we'd hear from you again. Best, paul On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: Hi Team, I'm back from three weeks in the UK and Ireland, unfortunately I was unable to deviate from the schedule that I was set and consequently I sadly missed out catching up with a handful of PDMLers but there's always next time I guess :-( I shot almost more images in three weeks than I had over the previous year however most were family oriented, not really subjects that I was able to explore purely as photographic studies. We only had a couple of days where we were sight seeing of sorts and then we were with others and rushed so seeing the photo ops just pass by was a little frustrating. In any case it's the first time that I've used the K10D on any trip longer than a weekend so I've come to appreciate it's strengths and weaknesses. Firstly no arguments it served me well, I love the speed of the thing and going back to the rear display size of the *ist D is a real shock however it wasn't all roses. The extra bulk wasn't too bad but then I was working out of a big pack, I have to find a new case for my three lens kit as it just doesn't fit the cases my *ist D does. I found that the battery became exhausted in the order of 350-400 shots with a little chimping (can't avoid it in low light work) and yes I did get caught once with flat battery (out on Lough Ree). I've mentioned it before but now know that I really don't like the operation of the WB system as flash as it is, I don't like not being able to just glance down at the top LCD to see what WB I have selected. I still wish that there was a dedicated WB button and more WB memories, I tended to use AWB as setting WB is such a hassle. I've been using Av with the auto exposure program set to normal and Aperture on the front wheel and ISO on the rear wheel with ISO in Auto (100-800) on start-up. This would be an ideal combination for me but for the fact that regardless of the exposure program mode and known lens FL/SR enabled the exposure system when set to auto ISO prefers to set a high ISO than lower the shutter speed. In many instances ie when using a 16mm lens I would find the system setting the shutter at 1/100th and the ISO at 800 when I could have been shooting at 1/8th without a problem. I wish there was some way to properly control this important aspect of auto exposure system operation. The other irritating peculiarity that I noticed was that all my shots are rotated by 1.5-2 degree CCW, I haven't investigated the issue fully but with SR off the camera has less rotational error than my *ist D had and I never experienced this phenomenon when shooting it. However the K10D screen (focus brackets) seems to be out by 0.65 degrees and the outside frame by 0.9 degrees so that's a start (refitting the screen didn't alter this). I am suspect of the SR system but I will test my theory properly when I have time. I'd love to hear from anyone else with similar observations, I've seen a few similar posts at dpreview since the K10Ds release but no mention here. I've pretty much moved over to Picasa to display my late images on the web, it's a great tool for organizing images, producing galleries and quick edits plus I can push the images to the web and produce a polished CD in very limited time. I've been shooting RAW+ 2MP jpg so using Picasa whilst I was traveling I could very quickly DL/process and update web pages for everyone concerned to view (I shot a two day wedding and had the images on the web the day after). It can even manage *ist D RAW files (for the benefit of Frank the new Digi-Boy). So what have I missed of the couple of months, anything interesting that I should know about? PS I have galleries from the trip but due to their nature I don't wish to bring them into the public domain however if any of you are interested drop me a private email and I'll send you some links. As my primary job is currently stay at home dad and house keeper I tend to have limited subjects to shoot so my little guy bears the brunt of this frustration in the way of being a captive subject, so if you are interested in see my kid pics check the following link: http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 --
Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs
On 07/04/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob, Welcome back. I haven't noticed any rotational problems with the K10, but I'm used to having to correct my rotation a bit. I do notice better exposure control by using program mode with auto ISO and the best aperture program line. (Can't remember what they call it M something, something.). This seems to work for me. When it doesn't , I turn the wheels and switch out of program. Again, good to see you here. Just this morning, I was wondering when we'd hear from you again. Hi Paul, Thanks for the welcome back, it's good to be back but I will have to limit my participation as I'll be pretty busy for a while. I've think tried everything I can to sort the high shutter speed bias and I can't seem to solve it short of moving to another program mode (I prefer to work in Av mode generally). I will have more of a play with the programs but from recollection setting the system to Hi Speed which biases the system towards wider apertures still displays a bias towards shutters speeds above 1/100th. Auto ISO operation seems to ratchet up ISO before reducing shutter speed even if the system knows that a short FL lens is fitted. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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G'day Rob welcome back On 4/7/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Team, snip So what have I missed of the couple of months, anything interesting that I should know about? Nothing out of the ordinary ;-) Some of those shots in your gallery are really quite funny. Your little guy seems to be developing an unhealthy attraction to Bud :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 07/04/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of those shots in your gallery are really quite funny. Your little guy seems to be developing an unhealthy attraction to Bud :-) G'day Dave, Shocking isn't it, you'd think he'd have better taste :-) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From the looks of your Picasa gallery, it seems like your photography has taken a hard-right (or -left) into baby-picture-land. That's been my life since my daughter was born. 19 months and around 3000 images later, I'm getting better at portrait photos and I have a handful of shots that I think transcend the usual family photos. Personal pleasure shooting is hard to balance into the mix, but it cam be done. My most productive sessions since my daughter was born have been family walk-around trips where I got a bunch of grab shots. I'll look forward to seeing some UK/Ireland shots when they go up --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Rob. Long time no chat. http://tinyurl.com/yqmc5z -- you (it is you, right?) look very much like Connor McLeod here ;-). As for your obs about K10D... I never managed to produce leveled images handheld consistently - neither with *istD nor with K10D. Having bought a monopod improved things some. However when I do align the lines in the viewfinder with focus bracket marks and when I manage to keep it this way throughout the exposure ;-) - it comes out all right. My preferred mode of operation is very similar to yours: P-mode (I just love hyper program two wheeled operation) with Auto ISO set to 100-400... It seems to work properly for me. In fact, my observation is that it would raise the ISO only at the last resort. I tried using this mighty WB thingie and it worked some. However, obviously my camera's screen does not display WB precisely - there is some magenta shift. Since it is impossible to change color temperature of in-camera LCD screen (most probably would be or already is implemented in some Canon monster ;-) ) I don't bother with it any more. You see, generally as a ballpark auto WB works for me. Then (having finally shelled out cash for Adobe LightRoom) I can adjust it in post processing. Although auto WB of my K10D is much more to the point than that of *istD. Finally, thanks to certain folks here, I did buy the Adobe LightRoom and I love it immensely. Just yesterday I sat down and processed two dozen images in less than an hour. It does amaze me how fluent and user oriented is its whole concept. Cheers! Boris Digital Image Studio wrote: Hi Team, ... http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/Thomas?authkey=pzmnlsD2ZJI -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
