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On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, William Robb wrote: Put the equipment into a freezer bag (we get zip lock bags here, you probably have something similar. Close the bag almost all the way, and put a drinking straw into the opening. Close the opening around the straw, then suck as much air out as you can. Pull the straw out and quickly close the last bit of bag. It'll get most of the air out. Many thanks for this! Kostas
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On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Put the equipment into a freezer bag (we get zip lock bags here, you probably have something similar. Close the bag almost all the way, and put a drinking straw into the opening. Close the opening around the straw, then suck as much air out as you can. Pull the straw out and quickly close the last bit of bag. It'll get most of the air out. William Robb Superb idea. I'll try it by filling with Pimms first... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Hi, Kostas wrote: Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag T who wrote about the MZ-S): On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote: Dag T wrote: I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. The intervals between moppings got longer and longer, until it was not necessary any more. mike
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Hi, Kostas wrote: Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag T who wrote about the MZ-S): On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote: Dag T wrote: I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. The intervals between moppings got longer and longer, until it was not necessary any more. mike (sent this yesterday but it was returned @ 4.00am)
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, mike.wilson wrote: Kostas wrote: Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy. Kostas
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På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 17.16 skrev Kostas Kavoussanakis: On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, mike.wilson wrote: Kostas wrote: Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy. I prefer another method. Just wrap the camera in wool. It absorbs the condensation and smoothens the temperature changes. Never take the lens of during the condensation period. DagT
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Hi, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. Dead right. You would then certainly get condensation on the inside. I found, using the method outlined, that there was none. Might be different for you. If you use a bag, it needs to be completely airtight, or there is no point. It would be best if it was as empty of air as possible, too. In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy. You are missing (at least, in the UK) half the fun mike Founder member, The Secret Pentax Society of twited pigs
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Pretty tightly sealed. A Ziplock bag of the right size works nicely. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. _ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Hi, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, mike wilson wrote: If you use a bag, it needs to be completely airtight, or there is no point. It would be best if it was as empty of air as possible, too. How do you achieve that? Suck it 8-) mike
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Hmm, I remember watching a TV ad selling a consumer grade vacuum sealer.. looked pretty nifty, but as I recall, they were using their own bags and I'm not sure if a Ziploc bag would work with it. I imagine if I had one of those, I'd be sealing all sorts of nonsense just for kicks! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:02 AM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, mike wilson wrote: If you use a bag, it needs to be completely airtight, or there is no point. It would be best if it was as empty of air as possible, too. How do you achieve that? Kostas
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From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, mike wilson wrote: If you use a bag, it needs to be completely airtight, or there is no point. It would be best if it was as empty of air as possible, too. How do you achieve that? Put the equipment into a freezer bag (we get zip lock bags here, you probably have something similar. Close the bag almost all the way, and put a drinking straw into the opening. Close the opening around the straw, then suck as much air out as you can. Pull the straw out and quickly close the last bit of bag. It'll get most of the air out. William Robb
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The ME Super and the Super A may appear to handle this, but they are not sealed, and the owner's manual does not recommend this kind of treatment. Dag T wrote: I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve...
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Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag T who wrote about the MZ-S): On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote: Dag T wrote: I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? Thanks, Kostas
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Steve wrote to Thrainn: Denim might not be too great an idea - cotton soaks up water like a sponge, and water resistant sprays wear off quite quickly in my experience. A better plan might be to start with water-proof material - cut up a cheap plastic raincoat or something? Thrainn, Denim is too coarsely woven, but cotton isn't too bad if the garment is wind-proof to begin with. But you have to find the right waterproofing agent. We have some stuff here that requires the garment to be soaked for ten minutes at boiling temperatures and then thoroughly ironed when dry to melt the stuff into the fibres. I prepare my cotton anorac like that. :-) But seriously, I would think it's too much work for covering a camera. And the garment would be quite expensive too. Steve's suggestion is good. A polyurethane raincoat would do nicely. Try to fit a piece to the shape of your camera to avoid wind tug. Cheers, Jostein
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Ten days ago I awoke to find the thermometer down to -29C; quite cold, but not near the coldest we have around here. *But* within 24 hours it was +1C and got a little warmer before cooling off again. Right now it's -14C. We've had it very cold in Toivakka from time to time. The lowest in my experience so far was -48C in 1983. My wife's little car, brought from SA when we came here (a Golf), was the only car in the village that ran properly - don't ask me why! ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 Oh my God! They've killed Teddy! - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining LOL! Tan, you'd better avoid to come here (Naples, Italy) in this period, when you can have a 12°C day, followed by a 21°C day and then another day at 5°C... (really happened last December.) Gianfranco PS: yesterday we had a almost constant 9°C temp, not that bad. PPS: Frank, you are crazy. Vox Populi, Vox Dei... :-) So am I, btw... - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:11 AM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining Ok, I now declare Frank to be 100% crazy... 8 degrees celsius!?!?!? That is sitting by the fire, wrapped in a blanket, watching a DVD and drinking hot milo (aussie hot chocolate), weather in these parts. And in fact, I don't think it is ever below 18 degrees celsius in anytime other than the dead of night, at any time of the year around here. I think that last year, in the middle of winter, the coldest night was around 0 degrees celsius (for like, half an hour at sunrise!) in the early morning, and the coldest temp during the day was around 19 degrees celsius... Going outside to photograph at 8 degrees celsius, well, lets just say, you won't have anywhere left to warm your films next time you remove them from the fridge, if you do it on a regular basis... tan. = To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
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Tanya wrote: I am a real baby - I hate the cold and I would be quite happy to hibernate right through our winter, during which times temperatures generally range from 3degrees celsius during the night, and sit at around the 20 degrees celsius during the day. I'm curious to know what you'd consider cold. 20 degrees in winter sounds pretty warm to me! Down here its gone over 30 degrees every day this year... on the 1st it hit 40 in a small town about half an hour from here. Its OK in the shade but the sun feels extremely strong this year. I'd better buy some sunscreen ASAP as I can't seem to find any around the house. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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Tanya Mayer wrote: *eek*, it's a wonder that people aren't sick all the time with colds and flu with temperature fluctuations such as those... Tan, I don't know how you cope with the heat ;-) Some of my best holidays (visiting family) have involved wandering around Perthshire (Scotland) in Winter in the freezing cold. Great photo opportunities too. I would like to visit distant relations in Canada as part of a holiday, but only when it is cold. Malcolm
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On 2/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: From: Tanya Mayer Photography Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining 8 degrees celsius!?!?!? .. Going outside to photograph at 8 degrees celsius, well, lets just say, you won't have anywhere left to warm your films next time you remove them from the fridge, if you do it on a regular basis... Right now, we are dreaming of the warmth of 8ºC. Daytime highs here are around -20ºC, night time lows are probably around -30ºC William Robb Eeh lad, thee doesn't know thee's born. Wi'd be sunbathin' in -30. Oh if it were that warm for us - all 23 of us livin in't shoebox in gutter STOP. This thread is too silly, move on. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining It's about -24C right now, but the windchill makes it feel like -30C. Takes a while to scrape the ice off the car every time it's parked, but we're used to it I haven't even put on a pair of gloves or a hat this winter yet. When the days drop to around the -25C range consistently, the winter gear will come out. Did you here that environment Canada changed the way it measures wind chill? Yeah, I heard. Seems that science has advanced in the last 50 years... go figure. You have the disadvantage of living with the same climate I have, but having an inland sea right next door. I complain about the cold where I am, but Winnipeg gets it way harder than we do. I hear Edmonton isn't much fun in the winter either, though they at least have a good football team. William Robb True enough... shame about their hockey, though. :) Today's going to be brisk. Should get up to -24C, though the windchill rating is -37C. Should be about the same in Regina. chris
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did i like the winter work. Lets see, no black flies,no salty sweat in the eyes.Hot tea felt better.gHung over,take a deep breath and the world is better again.g Boy i miss those days now. It's a beautiful feeling to walk around on a -40 day. Everything feels so clean and looks so beautiful. If there's a strong wind, then it's brutal... even Winnipeggers try to stay indoors if we can. :) But if there's a light wind or none at all, I love walking outside. We're not always refrigerated, though... we get our share of 30C+ days in the summer. I hate exessive heat, though. You can always cover up more when you're cold, but there's only so much you can take off while staying street legal in the summer. :) chris
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Hi, Dag T wrote: I like this type of cold. It is easy to get sufficient clothing (usually around here there is no wind when the temperature creeps below -20), the air is dry and extremely clear and there is this crunching sound when you walk on the snow. Combinations of wind, snow and rain around zero feels much colder. Agreed. I live on the North Sea coast and February is my favourite month - not! Last year, I was in Siberia in February and, even allowing for the novelty value, over (under?) -20 there was much more pleasurable than +2 here, with the sleet coming off the grey water on an easterly wind and... You get the picture. mike
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Hi, Jostein wrote: Quoting Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I like this type of cold. It is easy to get sufficient clothing (usually around here there is no wind when the temperature creeps below -20), the air is dry and extremely clear and there is this crunching sound when you walk on the snow. Combinations of wind, snow and rain around zero feels much colder. After living 10 years on the west coast, I couldn't agree more. Downside is that it drains batteries faster. And that it takes a lot more time to acclimatise the gear to room temperature afterwards... I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. mike
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På 3. jan. 2004 kl. 20.53 skrev mike wilson: Hi, Jostein wrote: Quoting Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I like this type of cold. It is easy to get sufficient clothing (usually around here there is no wind when the temperature creeps below -20), the air is dry and extremely clear and there is this crunching sound when you walk on the snow. Combinations of wind, snow and rain around zero feels much colder. After living 10 years on the west coast, I couldn't agree more. Downside is that it drains batteries faster. And that it takes a lot more time to acclimatise the gear to room temperature afterwards... I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve... DagT
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i wouldn't. put it inside a camera case or a plastic bag before bringing it in. Herb - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve...
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I used it outside in the cold, but left it inside the bag for half an hour after I came in. That worked OK, but the kids wanted to see the pictures right away... DagT På 3. jan. 2004 kl. 21.15 skrev Herb Chong: i wouldn't. put it inside a camera case or a plastic bag before bringing it in. Herb - Original Message - From: Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve...
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At 10:39 AM 1/2/2004, Frank wrote: It's stopped raining. The sun is now out. It's 8 degrees celsius. It's about that cold here in San Francisco. It's something in the 40's Fahrenheit. We've just gotten about 4 inches of rain since last Monday. I see blue skies today. Woo hoo. Time to bundle up and go outside. Pat in SF PS. Being an SF native, I complain when it gets to the low 40s F (single digit Celcius) or over 85 F (~30C).
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Hi, Dag T wrote: After living 10 years on the west coast, I couldn't agree more. Downside is that it drains batteries faster. And that it takes a lot more time to acclimatise the gear to room temperature afterwards... I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve... Given my (apparent) stance on DSLRs I was rather afraid to ask this - but I am interested in the answer. mike
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I'm afraid I've got my *istD quite wet a few times and also used it immediately after bringing it in from the cold. It shows no signs of any damage. This was all done against my better judgement. My girlfriend and I were married on Dec. 30th. It was a very small wedding, with only parents and siblings present. I had also taken pictures of the church the evening before, in the rain. We used a birthday party the 30th to celebrate on my wite's side and a family gathering New Years Eve to celebrate with my family, and that meant lots of pictures inside and outside, because of the fireworks. Since there were a number of relatives visiting here for the holidays, I was forced to use the *istD so everybody could see the pictures before they left. In hindsight, I'm glad I found out the *istD is more weather-resistant than some people believe, but I don't think I'll take any more chances if I can help it. I've previously used plastic bags to cover my cameras in the rain and snow, but I never really liked using them, since there is always wind tugging at the bag. I'm now toying with the idea of taking some fairly heavy material (e.g. thick denim), spray it with some sort of water resistant spray (e.g. the silicon aerosol that you can buy to waterproof clothing and shoes), and sewing velcro strips to tighten one end around the front of the lens. Thrainn On Saturday 03 January 2004 23:37, mike wilson wrote: Hi, Dag T wrote: After living 10 years on the west coast, I couldn't agree more. Downside is that it drains batteries faster. And that it takes a lot more time to acclimatise the gear to room temperature afterwards... I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve... Given my (apparent) stance on DSLRs I was rather afraid to ask this - but I am interested in the answer. mike
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Thrainn Vigfusson wrote: I'm now toying with the idea of taking some fairly heavy material (e.g. thick denim), spray it with some sort of water resistant spray (e.g. the silicon aerosol that you can buy to waterproof clothing and shoes), and sewing velcro strips to tighten one end around the front of the lens. Denim might not be too great an idea - cotton soaks up water like a sponge, and water resistant sprays wear off quite quickly in my experience. A better plan might be to start with water-proof material - cut up a cheap plastic raincoat or something? S
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Congratulations on your wedding Thrainn! Here's hoping that you and your new wife live a long and happy life together... You will have much more opportunity for that *istD to get a workout should you decide to add to your family! all the best, tan. - Original Message - From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining I'm afraid I've got my *istD quite wet a few times and also used it immediately after bringing it in from the cold. It shows no signs of any damage. This was all done against my better judgement. My girlfriend and I were married on Dec. 30th. It was a very small wedding, with only parents and siblings present. I had also taken pictures of the church the evening before, in the rain. We used a birthday party the 30th to celebrate on my wite's side and a family gathering New Years Eve to celebrate with my family, and that meant lots of pictures inside and outside, because of the fireworks. Since there were a number of relatives visiting here for the holidays, I was forced to use the *istD so everybody could see the pictures before they left. In hindsight, I'm glad I found out the *istD is more weather-resistant than some people believe, but I don't think I'll take any more chances if I can help it. I've previously used plastic bags to cover my cameras in the rain and snow, but I never really liked using them, since there is always wind tugging at the bag. I'm now toying with the idea of taking some fairly heavy material (e.g. thick denim), spray it with some sort of water resistant spray (e.g. the silicon aerosol that you can buy to waterproof clothing and shoes), and sewing velcro strips to tighten one end around the front of the lens. Thrainn On Saturday 03 January 2004 23:37, mike wilson wrote: Hi, Dag T wrote: After living 10 years on the west coast, I couldn't agree more. Downside is that it drains batteries faster. And that it takes a lot more time to acclimatise the gear to room temperature afterwards... I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve... Given my (apparent) stance on DSLRs I was rather afraid to ask this - but I am interested in the answer. mike
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I was afraid of that. I had hoped to use somethingheavy to keep the wind from blowing it around too much, but maybe I could sew something heavy into the borders, e.g. weights for fishing lines. Thrainn On Sunday 04 January 2004 00:57, Steve Jolly wrote: Thrainn Vigfusson wrote: I'm now toying with the idea of taking some fairly heavy material (e.g. thick denim), spray it with some sort of water resistant spray (e.g. the silicon aerosol that you can buy to waterproof clothing and shoes), and sewing velcro strips to tighten one end around the front of the lens. Denim might not be too great an idea - cotton soaks up water like a sponge, and water resistant sprays wear off quite quickly in my experience. A better plan might be to start with water-proof material - cut up a cheap plastic raincoat or something? S
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Congratulations Thrainn! As one who has been married several times, most recently for more than 18 years, I am a strong supporter of the institution. I attended a wedding on the 31st, far too many people, far too much expense and extravagance, far too much food and free booze... A family wedding sounds just about right. May your life together be as reasonable and balanced as your wedding...And, as they used to say in Kentucky, may you keep your powder and your *ist-D dry! Stan Thrainn Vigfusson wrote: I'm afraid I've got my *istD quite wet a few times and also used it immediately after bringing it in from the cold. It shows no signs of any damage. This was all done against my better judgement. My girlfriend and I were married on Dec. 30th. It was a very small wedding, with only parents and siblings present. I had also taken pictures of the church the evening before, in the rain. We used a birthday party the 30th to celebrate on my wite's side and a family gathering New Years Eve to celebrate with my family, and that meant lots of pictures inside and outside, because of the fireworks. Since there were a number of relatives visiting here for the holidays, I was forced to use the *istD so everybody could see the pictures before they left. In hindsight, I'm glad I found out the *istD is more weather-resistant than some people believe, but I don't think I'll take any more chances if I can help it. I've previously used plastic bags to cover my cameras in the rain and snow, but I never really liked using them, since there is always wind tugging at the bag. I'm now toying with the idea of taking some fairly heavy material (e.g. thick denim), spray it with some sort of water resistant spray (e.g. the silicon aerosol that you can buy to waterproof clothing and shoes), and sewing velcro strips to tighten one end around the front of the lens. Thrainn On Saturday 03 January 2004 23:37, mike wilson wrote: Hi, Dag T wrote: After living 10 years on the west coast, I couldn't agree more. Downside is that it drains batteries faster. And that it takes a lot more time to acclimatise the gear to room temperature afterwards... I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Never had a problem of any sort. I was also using the 28-70/2.8 FA* lans. ME Super, Super A and LX also handles this great. Have anybody taken the chance on the *istD yet? I didn´t take the chances on new years eve... Given my (apparent) stance on DSLRs I was rather afraid to ask this - but I am interested in the answer. mike
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Thrainn quietly mentioned: My girlfriend and I were married on Dec. 30th. All the best for the future!!
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It's stopped raining. The sun is now out. It's 8 degrees celsius. I'm grabbing my LX and going to take some photos. see ya, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Ok, I now declare Frank to be 100% crazy... 8 degrees celsius!?!?!? That is sitting by the fire, wrapped in a blanket, watching a DVD and drinking hot milo (aussie hot chocolate), weather in these parts. And in fact, I don't think it is ever below 18 degrees celsius in anytime other than the dead of night, at any time of the year around here. I think that last year, in the middle of winter, the coldest night was around 0 degrees celsius (for like, half an hour at sunrise!) in the early morning, and the coldest temp during the day was around 19 degrees celsius... Going outside to photograph at 8 degrees celsius, well, lets just say, you won't have anywhere left to warm your films next time you remove them from the fridge, if you do it on a regular basis... tan.
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- Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining 8 degrees celsius!?!?!? .. Going outside to photograph at 8 degrees celsius, well, lets just say, you won't have anywhere left to warm your films next time you remove them from the fridge, if you do it on a regular basis... Right now, we are dreaming of the warmth of 8ºC. Daytime highs here are around -20ºC, night time lows are probably around -30ºC William Robb
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Bill said:Right now, we are dreaming of the warmth of 8ºC. Daytime highs here are around -20ºC, night time lows are probably around -30ºC Seriously, how do you drag yourself out of bed in weather like that?!!? How do you get your fingers to work?!!? Give me hot sun, and sweat any day... tan.
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LOL! Tan, you'd better avoid to come here (Naples, Italy) in this period, when you can have a 12°C day, followed by a 21°C day and then another day at 5°C... (really happened last December.) Gianfranco PS: yesterday we had a almost constant 9°C temp, not that bad. PPS: Frank, you are crazy. Vox Populi, Vox Dei... :-) So am I, btw... - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:11 AM Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining Ok, I now declare Frank to be 100% crazy... 8 degrees celsius!?!?!? That is sitting by the fire, wrapped in a blanket, watching a DVD and drinking hot milo (aussie hot chocolate), weather in these parts. And in fact, I don't think it is ever below 18 degrees celsius in anytime other than the dead of night, at any time of the year around here. I think that last year, in the middle of winter, the coldest night was around 0 degrees celsius (for like, half an hour at sunrise!) in the early morning, and the coldest temp during the day was around 19 degrees celsius... Going outside to photograph at 8 degrees celsius, well, lets just say, you won't have anywhere left to warm your films next time you remove them from the fridge, if you do it on a regular basis... tan. = To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage. ---Emilio Salgari (1863-1911) __ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
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Well, Tanya, Bill, you see, lives in a part of Canada called Saskatchewan. It gets ~real~ cold there. Cold winds whipping across the prairies and all. I live in Toronto. It doesn't get that cold here. Even so, the average high here for this time of year is about -5. That's the high. Mind you, last winter we had a cold spell that lasted the better part of a month, with wind chills most mornings between -30C and -40C. Try riding a bike in that! g We're in the middle of an exceptional mild spell for winter. It's been pretty mild here for the better part of a week. +8C is like a heat wave. Really. In fact, I would say something about G. W., but it would start another long nasty thread, so I won't. But, what you really want to know is: Did frank get any good pictures on his walk? Sadly, only took a few frames, and I fear it's nothing inspiring. Some days you see stuff, some you don't. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 11:36:41 +1000 Bill said:Right now, we are dreaming of the warmth of 8ºC. Daytime highs here are around -20ºC, night time lows are probably around -30ºC Seriously, how do you drag yourself out of bed in weather like that?!!? How do you get your fingers to work?!!? Give me hot sun, and sweat any day... tan. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/featurespgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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*eek*, it's a wonder that people aren't sick all the time with colds and flu with temperature fluctuations such as those... I am a real baby - I hate the cold and I would be quite happy to hibernate right through our winter, during which times temperatures generally range from 3degrees celsius during the night, and sit at around the 20 degrees celsius during the day. BTW Gianfranco, how to you get the little o (degrees sign) next to your numbers?!?!!? tan. Gianfranco said: Tan, you'd better avoid to come here (Naples, Italy) in this period, when you can have a 12°C day, followed by a 21°C day and then another day at 5°C... (really happened last December.)
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- Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining Bill said:Right now, we are dreaming of the warmth of 8ºC. Daytime highs here are around -20ºC, night time lows are probably around -30ºC Seriously, how do you drag yourself out of bed in weather like that?!!? How do you get your fingers to work?!!? 30 below isn't too bad. 40 below is getting to the point where you don't want to leave the house. The advantage is that we don't get bugs that are as big as small dogs here. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining It's about -24C right now, but the windchill makes it feel like -30C. Takes a while to scrape the ice off the car every time it's parked, but we're used to it I haven't even put on a pair of gloves or a hat this winter yet. When the days drop to around the -25C range consistently, the winter gear will come out. Did you here that environment Canada changed the way it measures wind chill? You have the disadvantage of living with the same climate I have, but having an inland sea right next door. I complain about the cold where I am, but Winnipeg gets it way harder than we do. I hear Edmonton isn't much fun in the winter either, though they at least have a good football team. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography Subject: Re: It's Stopped Raining how to you get the little o (degrees sign) next to your numbers?!?!!? press and hold alt while typing 0186 Or, use the character map. William Robb
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Bill said: Or, use the character map. Ok, Bill so enlighten me on what a character map is... tan.
