Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
To confuse matters a little more, Spanish-speaking countries often change the composition of family names placing the father family name first, then the mother's. I try to use both - actually my passport displays it that way... LF Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta escreveu: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 23:02, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 14:19 , Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:07, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: An RPG works for me ! D&D or GURPS? Or MUDs? -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat I know the Spanish love long titles, but. Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as your first name. And you wonder why your address is not accepted by Blurb? Computers be computers, and to this day do not allow my last name to be used correctly, so I feel your pain. Adapt we must, or bring down the internet and the "compliance committees." I don't have any problem with my Mac address book and my name. Just forget the 'dos' and keep on reading this email... First, I'm not Spanish. I'm Portuguese! Nuno Miguel is my proper name, Santos Baeta is my family name (Santos from my mother and Baeta from my father). This is the common way of forming names in Portugal. As for the 'dos', well it's like the 'von' in John von Newmann - a direct translation is 'from'. When filling forms I sometimes drop the 'dos'. Usually there is no right way to fill the fields, and 'dos' is there just to connect my proper name and my family name. Name formation is quite interesting subject. Different cultures do it in different ways. As far as I know, in China it is usual for a name to be formed, in this order, by a family name, a generation name and a proper name. Finally, Blurb accepts my name but doesn't accept my address, just two lines :-( -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Make mine GURPS!!! LF Larry Colen escreveu: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 05:59:17PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Ok, you got me - Don't worry, that just means that you aren't a total nerd. D&D or GURPS? = ? Dungeons & Dragons and Generic Universal Role Playing System are two of the most commonly used Role Playing Game, or RPG, rule sets. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: An RPG works for me ! D&D or GURPS? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
> On 20/3/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like > Pablo Diego José > >Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios > Cipriano de la > >Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. > > Mr though? > No. Senor Cough. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/3/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like Pablo Diego José >Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la >Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. Mr though? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:49:24PM +, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > This is a solution, though a wrong one. The ideia of a first name, a > middle name and a last name isn't correct for every > countries/cultures. > > > Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like Pablo Diego José > > Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la > > Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. > > I don't think any software would be able to know what to do with such name. Simple, use a pointer to an arbitrary length string. For that matter, the software used to email it worked fine. A name structure could have a type field that enumerated how the name was constructed. Likewise, the set of subnames are of a finite set of types: family personal title matrilineal patrilineal etc. It's an interesting, but solvable problem. > > -- > Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta > ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: Name formation is quite interesting subject. It certainly is, and I'm happy to (accidentally) learn something more about the way it's done in Portugal. :-) My friend and I were discussing the origin of the name Rothschild, as in Baron von Rothschild, on Tuesday. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Just a small correction to my email... A better, still direct, translation of 'dos' is 'of', as it gives a notion of belonging. 'from' gives the notion of a starting point. -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 23:19, Bob W wrote: >> > -- >> > Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta >> > ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat >> >> >> I know the Spanish love long titles, but. >> >> Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as >> your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as >> your first >> name. > > Shoulda bought a PC. Outlook saves it as > > First name: Nuno > Middle name: Miguel > Last name: dos Santos Baeta This is a solution, though a wrong one. The ideia of a first name, a middle name and a last name isn't correct for every countries/cultures. > Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like Pablo Diego José > Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la > Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. I don't think any software would be able to know what to do with such name. -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 20, 2009, at 18:19, Bob W wrote: -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat I know the Spanish love long titles, but. Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as your first name. Shoulda bought a PC. Outlook saves it as First name: Nuno Middle name: Miguel Last name: dos Santos Baeta Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. Or even: Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking Portugese, but didn't find a translator. Which would not have helped me much, it seems. I will corrrect my address book. But as you know, if the name doesn't match exactly, Mail doesn't recognize the name. When I find out the correct name of some of these PDMLrs, and change the address book, their mail is no loonger recognized. I'll fiddle with it. On Mar 20, 2009, at 16:35 , Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 23:02, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 14:19 , Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:07, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: An RPG works for me ! D&D or GURPS? Or MUDs? -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat I know the Spanish love long titles, but. Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as your first name. And you wonder why your address is not accepted by Blurb? Computers be computers, and to this day do not allow my last name to be used correctly, so I feel your pain. Adapt we must, or bring down the internet and the "compliance committees." I don't have any problem with my Mac address book and my name. Just forget the 'dos' and keep on reading this email... First, I'm not Spanish. I'm Portuguese! Nuno Miguel is my proper name, Santos Baeta is my family name (Santos from my mother and Baeta from my father). This is the common way of forming names in Portugal. As for the 'dos', well it's like the 'von' in John von Newmann - a direct translation is 'from'. When filling forms I sometimes drop the 'dos'. Usually there is no right way to fill the fields, and 'dos' is there just to connect my proper name and my family name. Name formation is quite interesting subject. Different cultures do it in different ways. As far as I know, in China it is usual for a name to be formed, in this order, by a family name, a generation name and a proper name. Finally, Blurb accepts my name but doesn't accept my address, just two lines :-( Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Mar 20, 2009, at 16:19 , Bob W wrote: -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat I know the Spanish love long titles, but. Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as your first name. Shoulda bought a PC. Outlook saves it as First name: Nuno Middle name: Miguel Last name: dos Santos Baeta Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. Bob Uno word difference - dos I figure his name as Miguel from Santos Baeta. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 23:02, Joseph McAllister wrote: > On Mar 20, 2009, at 14:19 , Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:07, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: An RPG works for me ! >>> >>> D&D or GURPS? >> >> Or MUDs? >> >> -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta >> ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > > > I know the Spanish love long titles, but. > > Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as your last > name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as your first name. And you > wonder why your address is not accepted by Blurb? Computers be computers, > and to this day do not allow my last name to be used correctly, so I feel > your pain. Adapt we must, or bring down the internet and the "compliance > committees." I don't have any problem with my Mac address book and my name. Just forget the 'dos' and keep on reading this email... First, I'm not Spanish. I'm Portuguese! Nuno Miguel is my proper name, Santos Baeta is my family name (Santos from my mother and Baeta from my father). This is the common way of forming names in Portugal. As for the 'dos', well it's like the 'von' in John von Newmann - a direct translation is 'from'. When filling forms I sometimes drop the 'dos'. Usually there is no right way to fill the fields, and 'dos' is there just to connect my proper name and my family name. Name formation is quite interesting subject. Different cultures do it in different ways. As far as I know, in China it is usual for a name to be formed, in this order, by a family name, a generation name and a proper name. Finally, Blurb accepts my name but doesn't accept my address, just two lines :-( -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
> > -- > > Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta > > ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > > > I know the Spanish love long titles, but. > > Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as > your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as > your first > name. Shoulda bought a PC. Outlook saves it as First name: Nuno Middle name: Miguel Last name: dos Santos Baeta Not sure what it would make of a serious Spanish name like Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso, though. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Mar 20, 2009, at 14:19 , Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:07, Larry Colen wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: An RPG works for me ! D&D or GURPS? Or MUDs? -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat I know the Spanish love long titles, but. Yours play hell with my Mac address book, it using Santos Baeta as your last name, Miguel dos as your middle name, and Nuno as your first name. And you wonder why your address is not accepted by Blurb? Computers be computers, and to this day do not allow my last name to be used correctly, so I feel your pain. Adapt we must, or bring down the internet and the "compliance committees." Joseph McAllister should be M(superscript c with " below it)Allister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 05:59:17PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: > Ok, you got me - Don't worry, that just means that you aren't a total nerd. > > >D&D or GURPS? = ? Dungeons & Dragons and Generic Universal Role Playing System are two of the most commonly used Role Playing Game, or RPG, rule sets. > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Colen" > Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 > > > >On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: > >> > >>An RPG works for me ! > > > >D&D or GURPS? > > > > > >-- > >The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post > >the wrong answer. > >Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > >http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Ok, you got me - D&D or GURPS? = ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: An RPG works for me ! D&D or GURPS? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 21:07, Larry Colen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: >> >> An RPG works for me ! > > D&D or GURPS? Or MUDs? -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: > > An RPG works for me ! D&D or GURPS? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An RPG works for me ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Christian" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my pitchfork. Lynching... Pitchfork? For a lynching I think a rope is more useful You need a pitchfork when you're in a lynchmob outside the sherrif's office, then later to prod the guilty sonofabitch when he's swinging. I prefer a fiery brand but each to their own. Just give me a damn torch. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 I'll bring a lynchpin... Or knot DS On 20/03/2009, Bob Sullivan wrote: Brian, Only one person needs to bring a rope. Two at most. The rest of us bring our pitchforks or shotguns. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:25 +, "Bob W" wrote: > > > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! > > > > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) > > What's really amazing is who we let stay. > > VW It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my pitchfork. Lynching... Pitchfork? For a lynching I think a rope is more useful Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my pitchfork. Lynching... Pitchfork? For a lynching I think a rope is more useful You need a pitchfork when you're in a lynchmob outside the sherrif's office, then later to prod the guilty sonofabitch when he's swinging. I prefer a fiery brand but each to their own. Just give me a damn torch. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: > > > > > > It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten > > where I left my > > > pitchfork. > > > > > > > Lynching... Pitchfork? > > > > For a lynching I think a rope is more useful > > > > You need a pitchfork when you're in a lynchmob outside the sherrif's office, > then later to prod the guilty sonofabitch when he's swinging. I prefer a fiery brand but each to their own. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> > > > Pythonism?!? I'm lost! > > > > -- > > Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta > > ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > > > > de Circo Pythone Monte acuto > > Bob I got that very badly wrong. What I meant was de circo volatile pythonis montyis. I beg forgiveness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8 Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don´t worry Nuno - I'll be nearby with my trusted Barret .50 to shoot the rope. Just don't swing too much, ok? :-) Sorry, I was watching old western movies yesterday... LF ps- ot is useful enough, but with a title like this one shouldn't be surprised to read about Leica and Panasonic... :-) David Savage escreveu: I'll bring a lynchpin... DS On 20/03/2009, Bob Sullivan wrote: Brian, Only one person needs to bring a rope. Two at most. The rest of us bring our pitchforks or shotguns. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:25 +, "Bob W" wrote: On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) What's really amazing is who we let stay. VW It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my pitchfork. Lynching... Pitchfork? For a lynching I think a rope is more useful Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'll bring a lynchpin... DS On 20/03/2009, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Brian, > Only one person needs to bring a rope. Two at most. > The rest of us bring our pitchforks or shotguns. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Brian Walters > wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:25 +, "Bob W" wrote: >>> > >>> > > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> > > >>> > >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! >>> > > >>> > > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) >>> > >>> > What's really amazing is who we let stay. >>> > >>> > VW >>> >>> It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my >>> pitchfork. >>> >> >> Lynching... Pitchfork? >> >> For a lynching I think a rope is more useful >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> ++ >> Brian Walters >> Western Sydney Australia >> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ >> -- >> >> >> -- >> http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brian, Only one person needs to bring a rope. Two at most. The rest of us bring our pitchforks or shotguns. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:25 +, "Bob W" wrote: >> > >> > > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >> > > >> > >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! >> > > >> > > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) >> > >> > What's really amazing is who we let stay. >> > >> > VW >> >> It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my >> pitchfork. >> > > Lynching... Pitchfork? > > For a lynching I think a rope is more useful > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> > > > It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten > where I left my > > pitchfork. > > > > Lynching... Pitchfork? > > For a lynching I think a rope is more useful > You need a pitchfork when you're in a lynchmob outside the sherrif's office, then later to prod the guilty sonofabitch when he's swinging. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
From: Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? TIA As far as the viewfinder "detail", much as I hate to say this, I think Canon still offers several P&S models with real viewfinders. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:25 +, "Bob W" wrote: > > > > > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > > >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! > > > > > > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) > > > > What's really amazing is who we let stay. > > > > VW > > It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my > pitchfork. > Lynching... Pitchfork? For a lynching I think a rope is more useful Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This is a freaking Pentax list, how the hell would I know. SPECKS ! LOL ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On 19/3/09, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta, discombobulated, unleashed: I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? This is a freaking Pentax list, how the hell would I know. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:25, Bob W wrote: >> >> > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >> > >> >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! >> > >> > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) >> >> What's really amazing is who we let stay. >> >> VW > > It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my > pitchfork. Lucky me :-) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:11, Cotty wrote: > On 19/3/09, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I own and use a Spotmatic, a ME Super, a P30t, a Z-20, a MZ-5, (my >>first DSLR) a K10D and too many lenses. I've also been following this >>list for more than a year and been trying to buy the PDML, book but >>Blurb doesn't accept my mail address :-( I therefore believe that I >>can be qualified as a Pentax user. > > I forgive you. Thank you, I guess ;-) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 22:09, Cotty wrote: > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! > > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) If I could find out the way Blurb wants me to write my snail mail address... -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/3/20 Bob W : >> >> > On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >> > >> >>And this was asked on a Pentax List ! >> > >> > We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) >> >> What's really amazing is who we let stay. >> >> VW > > It's been so long since we had a lynching I've forgotten where I left my > pitchfork. In someone's back? DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) What's really amazing is who we let stay. VW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 19/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >Money Python's Flying Circus was a brilliant, irreverent and >influential English sketch comedy series started in the late '60's. No it wasn't. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 19/3/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think the Leica comes highly recommended by the President of Pentax >Imaging. Thanks you bastard. Snot on the space bar. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 19/3/09, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta, discombobulated, unleashed: >I own and use a Spotmatic, a ME Super, a P30t, a Z-20, a MZ-5, (my >first DSLR) a K10D and too many lenses. I've also been following this >list for more than a year and been trying to buy the PDML, book but >Blurb doesn't accept my mail address :-( I therefore believe that I >can be qualified as a Pentax user. I forgive you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 19/3/09, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >And this was asked on a Pentax List ! We've published a book, they'll let anyone in now ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On 19/3/09, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta, discombobulated, unleashed: >I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the >viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or >Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. > >Is there any real difference between these two cameras? This is a freaking Pentax list, how the hell would I know. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:15 -0400, "David J Brooks" > wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, frank theriault >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson >> > wrote: >> > >> >> No, we don't. >> > >> > Yes we do. >> >> Are you arguing in your spare time.? >> > > > Sorry, the five minutes is up... No it's not. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:15 -0400, "David J Brooks" wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, frank theriault > wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson > > wrote: > > > >> No, we don't. > > > > Yes we do. > > Are you arguing in your spare time.? > Sorry, the five minutes is up... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> (...) > > > I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. > > I hope he isn't... > > > Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon > > stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. > > Pythonism?!? I'm lost! > > -- > Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta > ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > de Circo Pythone Monte acuto Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:07, Ken Waller wrote: Over the years it was the custom to put OT in the subject line if the subject was not related to Pentax. It lets those not interested to simply delete & move on. Not that it is being done 100%. Yes, I should have put OT in the subject line. Sorry. BTW, I now assume you're looking for a camera with an optical viewfinder as opposed to electronic. I prefer a camera with an optical viewfinder. If you intend to do any sort of action photography - animals, kids, etc, its an absolute necessity IMO. I used a Nikopn Coolpix 5700 for several years in my Job & found the time delay with an EVF was totally un acceptable. (...) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> And yes it's just Ken... ; -{
;-)
cheers,
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To me it was analogous to asking the Nikon or Canon list a question about
the K20D !
No offense intended.
And yes it's just Ken...; -{
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- Original Message -
From: "frank theriault"
Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
wrote:
(...)
I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time.
I hope he isn't...
Even if he was serious, who cares? It's just Ken after all...
;-)
Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon
stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's.
Pythonism?!? I'm lost!
Money Python's Flying Circus was a brilliant, irreverent and
influential English sketch comedy series started in the late '60's.
Several of the members went on further fame, including John Cleese and
Michael Palin. They were only on the air for a couple of seasons, but
they also had a couple of movies and travelling live shows after the
series shut down.
Some here know all their sketches by rote.
cheers,
frank
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Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 18:07, Ken Waller wrote: > Over the years it was the custom to put OT in the subject line if the > subject was not related to Pentax. > It lets those not interested to simply delete & move on. > Not that it is being done 100%. Yes, I should have put OT in the subject line. Sorry. > BTW, I now assume you're looking for a camera with an optical viewfinder as > opposed to electronic. I prefer a camera with an optical viewfinder. (...) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Pasvorn Boonmark" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Ken Waller wrote: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Yes, because we are knowledgeable bunch. :) Then lets change to name of this list to the KBML - ; =} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" Subject: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? Yeah, they're both not a sgood as a Pentax ! TIA -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Over the years it was the custom to put OT in the subject line if the subject was not related to Pentax. It lets those not interested to simply delete & move on. Not that it is being done 100%. BTW, I now assume you're looking for a camera with an optical viewfinder as opposed to electronic. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" Subject: Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 Hello! This is s an Off Topic question... For not mentioning this on the subject of my message I apologize. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:12, Ken Waller wrote: And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Why not? I own and use a Spotmatic, a ME Super, a P30t, a Z-20, a MZ-5, (my first DSLR) a K10D and too many lenses. I've also been following this list for more than a year and been trying to buy the PDML, book but Blurb doesn't accept my mail address :-( I therefore believe that I can be qualified as a Pentax user. Now, if there is a Pentax P&S camera with a viewfinder, please let me know. I'll have a look at it. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" Subject: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? Yeah, they're both not a sgood as a Pentax ! Once more, which Pentax P&S has a viewfinder? I really don't like to look at screen to make pictures. TIA -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, frank theriault wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >> No, we don't. > > Yes we do. Are you arguing in your spare time.? Dave > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:10, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: (...) I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. Pythonism?!? I'm lost! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_python -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > (...) > >> I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. > > I hope he isn't... Even if he was serious, who cares? It's just Ken after all... ;-) >> Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon >> stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. > > Pythonism?!? I'm lost! Money Python's Flying Circus was a brilliant, irreverent and influential English sketch comedy series started in the late '60's. Several of the members went on further fame, including John Cleese and Michael Palin. They were only on the air for a couple of seasons, but they also had a couple of movies and travelling live shows after the series shut down. Some here know all their sketches by rote. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > (...) > >> I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. > > I hope he isn't... > >> Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon >> stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. > > Pythonism?!? I'm lost! On a holiday. Could be, nudge nudge. :-) Dave > > -- > Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta > ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > And this was asked on a Pentax List ! > Yes, because we are knowledgeable bunch. :) > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" > > Subject: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 > > >> Hello! >> >> I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the >> viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or >> Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. >> >> Is there any real difference between these two cameras? > > Yeah, they're both not a sgood as a Pentax ! > >> >> TIA >> >> -- >> Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta >> ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
I find a quite interesting phenomenon ... I know many who have purchased the G9/G10 cameras. After an initial period of delight with them, they find they stop using them, aren't getting such good results, etc etc. The G10's controls are definitely nice, if you don't get the picture quality you're looking for, they're for naught. I also know many who have purchased the LX3 and DLux-4. I had the LX1. Although I find cameras this small a little clumsy in use, these cameras return remarkable image quality. I've exhibited and won awards with LX1 photographs... I prefer the looks of the DLux4 ... but might balk at the premium price. I only use the RAW capture facilities ... Lightroom 2.2 and above handle them. Godfrey On Mar 19, 2009, at 1:50 AM, David Savage wrote: I've used both, but I like the knobs & button interface of the G10. Very easy to change exposure & focus manually. It's also built like a brick thunderbox. Also the Leica/Panny RAW format is proprietary (or it was the last time I checked. You have to use the supplied RAW converter. This may have changed). DS On 19/03/2009, Peter McIntosh wrote: 2009/3/19 David Savage : I want a G10. That's a sweet P&S H... After reading the reviews of the G10 on LL, the decision has become much harder to make... Regards, Peter in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
> I don't think you have anything to apologize for. Anyone who has a > problem with Pentaxians discussing this camera can take it up with Ned > Bunnell: > > http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2009/01/after-42-yrs-new-leica-added-to-my.html Nice :-) I don't usually follow blogs, but I think I'll star following this one! -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
(...) > I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. I hope he isn't... > Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon > stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. Pythonism?!? I'm lost! -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
William Robb wrote: I think the Leica comes highly recommended by the President of Pentax Imaging. Speck/Mark! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? I think the Leica comes highly recommended by the President of Pentax Imaging. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > I therefore believe that I can be qualified as a Pentax user. I don't think you have anything to apologize for. Anyone who has a problem with Pentaxians discussing this camera can take it up with Ned Bunnell: http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2009/01/after-42-yrs-new-leica-added-to-my.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > Hello! > > This is s an Off Topic question... For not mentioning this on the > subject of my message I apologize. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:12, Ken Waller wrote: >> And this was asked on a Pentax List ! > > Why not? > > I own and use a Spotmatic, a ME Super, a P30t, a Z-20, a MZ-5, (my > first DSLR) a K10D and too many lenses. I've also been following this > list for more than a year and been trying to buy the PDML, book but > Blurb doesn't accept my mail address :-( I therefore believe that I > can be qualified as a Pentax user. > > Now, if there is a Pentax P&S camera with a viewfinder, please let me > know. I'll have a look at it. > I doubt Ken was serious. We ask non Pentax questions all the time. Adam and I do the Nikon ones, and Mr bird shooter does the Canon stuff. Cotty and Bob are in charge of Pythonism's. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
I was able to experiment with a G10 and a D-Lux 4 at the local Fnac store. I prefer the smaller size of the D-Lux 4, though I hate its price :-) On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 07:53, David Savage wrote: > I want a G10. > > That's a sweet P&S (...) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
I didn't find this comparison while trying to find out the differences between the two cameras. Thank you for the link! On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 06:31, Derby Chang wrote: (...) > Hi, > > Check out the review on LL > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml > > There is a comparison at the end. > > D > > > -- > > der...@iinet.net.au > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc (...) -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Hello! This is s an Off Topic question... For not mentioning this on the subject of my message I apologize. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:12, Ken Waller wrote: > And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Why not? I own and use a Spotmatic, a ME Super, a P30t, a Z-20, a MZ-5, (my first DSLR) a K10D and too many lenses. I've also been following this list for more than a year and been trying to buy the PDML, book but Blurb doesn't accept my mail address :-( I therefore believe that I can be qualified as a Pentax user. Now, if there is a Pentax P&S camera with a viewfinder, please let me know. I'll have a look at it. > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" > > Subject: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 > > >> Hello! >> >> I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the >> viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or >> Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. >> >> Is there any real difference between these two cameras? > > Yeah, they're both not a sgood as a Pentax ! Once more, which Pentax P&S has a viewfinder? I really don't like to look at screen to make pictures. > >> >> TIA >> >> -- >> Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta >> ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:50 AM, David Savage wrote: > I've used both, but I like the knobs & button interface of the G10. > Very easy to change exposure & focus manually. It's also built like a > brick thunderbox. > > Also the Leica/Panny RAW format is proprietary (or it was the last > time I checked. You have to use the supplied RAW converter. This may > have changed). > > DS > The LX3's RAW format is not proprietary, it's supported by Adobe at least. However Panasonic is using had-coded lens corrections to compensate for distortion on the lens which some take offense to. The LX3 has a much better lens and sensor than the G10. The G10 has a better control layout. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
I've used both, but I like the knobs & button interface of the G10. Very easy to change exposure & focus manually. It's also built like a brick thunderbox. Also the Leica/Panny RAW format is proprietary (or it was the last time I checked. You have to use the supplied RAW converter. This may have changed). DS On 19/03/2009, Peter McIntosh wrote: > 2009/3/19 David Savage : >> I want a G10. >> >> That's a sweet P&S >> > > > H... > > After reading the reviews of the G10 on LL, the decision has become > much harder to make... > > Regards, > > Peter in western Sydney > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
2009/3/19 David Savage : > I want a G10. > > That's a sweet P&S > H... After reading the reviews of the G10 on LL, the decision has become much harder to make... Regards, Peter in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
I want a G10. That's a sweet P&S On 19/03/2009, Peter McIntosh wrote: > 2009/3/19 Derby Chang >> >> Check out the review on LL >> >> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml >> >> There is a comparison at the end. > > Bugger...! I've been quite keen on getting a LX3; this confirms my > thoughts on it. Now, what can I sell...? > > Regards, > > Peter in western Sydney > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
2009/3/19 Derby Chang > > Check out the review on LL > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml > > There is a comparison at the end. Bugger...! I've been quite keen on getting a LX3; this confirms my thoughts on it. Now, what can I sell...? Regards, Peter in western Sydney -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? TIA -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat - Hi, Check out the review on LL http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/lx3.shtml There is a comparison at the end. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
And this was asked on a Pentax List ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta" Subject: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? Yeah, they're both not a sgood as a Pentax ! TIA -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote: > Hello! > > I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the > viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or > Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. > > Is there any real difference between these two cameras? > > TIA > Minor differences in handling. The LX3 has an integrated grip while the D-Lux 4 does not, but offers a larger bolt-on grip. The JPEG rendering is a bit different and the Leica offers a superior software package. I'd get the LX3 if the integrated grip works for you, but the Leica if you prefer a larger or smaller package. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
>From what I've read the only difference is the Licker red dot, in camera .jpg rendering (to suit Leica's standards) & price. DS 2009/3/19 Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta : > Hello! > > I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the > viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or > Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. > > Is there any real difference between these two cameras? > > TIA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3
Hello! I want to buy a P&S camera with a viewfinder. Because of the viewfinder "detail", I narrowed my options to the Leica D-Lux 4 or Panasonic LX3 - an external viewfinder is available for both. Is there any real difference between these two cameras? TIA -- Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta ille nihil dubitat quem nulla scientia dictat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
