Re: Less than a month to wait...
On 2/15/2010 11:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Ralf R. Radermacher
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
Pro shooters have heard of Pentax.
...and they've heard of the mess Hoya-Pentax have made of their European
customer service when they completely outsourced it, last spring.
In the days of Pentax' own service facility in Hamburg you had your P67
back within days, including shipping. Now, the minimum is two weeks and
if they have to order spares from Paris it's at least another two.
No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level
service.
I know this is a dumb question, but I'm going to ask anyway ...
If the parts have to come from Paris, why isn't the service center IN
Paris?
Well, Hell, that would only make sense.
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Re: Less than a month to wait...
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Pro shooters have heard of Pentax. ...and they've heard of the mess Hoya-Pentax have made of their European customer service when they completely outsourced it, last spring. In the days of Pentax' own service facility in Hamburg you had your P67 back within days, including shipping. Now, the minimum is two weeks and if they have to order spares from Paris it's at least another two. No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On 15/02/2010, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. Don't get all technical on us Ralf, feel the Pentax love ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Pro shooters have heard of Pentax. ...and they've heard of the mess Hoya-Pentax have made of their European customer service when they completely outsourced it, last spring. In the days of Pentax' own service facility in Hamburg you had your P67 back within days, including shipping. Now, the minimum is two weeks and if they have to order spares from Paris it's at least another two. No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. My reply: For that reason, I understand at the beginning the 645D will be available in the Japanese home market only. Then I guess they are going to start setting up a worldwide service net, based on the success of the camera. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: Less than a month to wait... For that reason, I understand at the beginning the 645D will be available in the Japanese home market only. Then I guess they are going to start setting up a worldwide service net, based on the success of the camera. This sounds like a Catch 22. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: Less than a month to wait... For that reason, I understand at the beginning the 645D will be available in the Japanese home market only. Then I guess they are going to start setting up a worldwide service net, based on the success of the camera. This sounds like a Catch 22. I don't think so. Based on the success of the camera in Japan (where they can service it properly from the start), they can figure out if/how to sell and service it worldwide. BTW, I'm not sure at first it will made available in Japan only, perhaps in other selected markets too. This theory surfaced a few times among Pentax executives during the long development time of the 645D and I believe it could be a viable start. Have you noticed that the teaser only appears in the Japanese website? Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: Less than a month to wait... For that reason, I understand at the beginning the 645D will be available in the Japanese home market only. Then I guess they are going to start setting up a worldwide service net, based on the success of the camera. This sounds like a Catch 22. I don't think so. Based on the success of the camera in Japan (where they can service it properly from the start), they can figure out if/how to sell and service it worldwide. If they haven't figured out how to well and service a camera on the world market yet, I'm thinking this isn't the one to start with. Note to Pentax: Try to figure out how to service those SDM lenses so that they keep working. Perhaps figure this out before you sell them to unsuspecting customers. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:17 AM, William Robb wrote: I'm blue skying now for a 6x7 digital. They should be able to make a 100mp camera with that amount of real estate to work with. I wouldn't mind a play with one of those RED 6x17cm backs. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 15/02/2010, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: I don't think so. Based on the success of the camera in Japan (where they can service it properly from the start), they can figure out if/how to sell and service it worldwide. BTW, I'm not sure at first it will made available in Japan only, perhaps in other selected markets too. This theory surfaced a few times among Pentax executives during the long development time of the 645D and I believe it could be a viable start. Have you noticed that the teaser only appears in the Japanese website? I think that's particularly poor logic on the part of Pentax then, the Japanese home market will be the least relative to the rest of the world. It will be interesting to see what actually happens. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:11 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Pro shooters have heard of Pentax. ...and they've heard of the mess Hoya-Pentax have made of their European customer service when they completely outsourced it, last spring. In the days of Pentax' own service facility in Hamburg you had your P67 back within days, including shipping. Now, the minimum is two weeks and if they have to order spares from Paris it's at least another two. No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. Pentax service was always relatively good in the U.S. market, and other outlets like Norm Frosier's New York Camera took care of the fashion pros in that city. But you're right in that they have to be prepared to offer full pro service right from launch in every market where the camera is sold. We'll see Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
2010/2/15 William Robb war...@gmail.com: If they haven't figured out how to well and service a camera on the world market yet, I'm thinking this isn't the one to start with. Note to Pentax: Try to figure out how to service those SDM lenses so that they keep working. Perhaps figure this out before you sell them to unsuspecting customers. I doubt I'll ever understand why they don't just have a pool of lenses and bodies as well as a functioning pickup delivery service and the option to get a pool body / lens for a symbolic daily fee for amateurs and free for pros or included with a service plan. Also, note to Pentax, please add menu options to export and import user settings to and from SD card including image counter... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure I need it. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee wrote: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html About as exciting as the newest Ferrari, luxury watch, or whatever. I'd gladly have scraped together the money for a Pentax DSLR with a 24x36 mm sensor. This 645 is well beyond my reach. Besides, who'd want to buy a pro camera from a company that has just reduced its European customer service to NHS level? If it were anywhere near that good I'd be on it like a rabbit on a woolly mitten. Although, given the incipient rounds of spending cuts, you may be onto something Put a Leica or Contax label on it and they might be able to sell a few to the usual crowd of dentists or surgeons with lots of black money that they can't spend on cars or boats because it would leave traces. But Pentax? They've never heard of that. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Then I guess they are going to start setting up a worldwide service net, based on the success of the camera. Like re-opening the service net that has just been closed down, all over Europe...? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Then I guess they are going to start setting up a worldwide service net, based on the success of the camera. Like re-opening the service net that has just been closed down, all over Europe...? My reply: Don't know, it was just a vague guess of mine. Perhaps they have a totally different idea and we are just in middle of nowhere. Odd as it can look, I believe we can hardly comment on things to come we know nothing about. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:11:50AM +0100, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. So no pro has bought a Pentax for the last quarter of a century. This isn't anything new. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Less than a month to wait... No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. So no pro has bought a Pentax for the last quarter of a century. You aren't too far off. Actually, Pentax did fairly well supporting their medium format cameras, as they (especially the 6x7) were used by pros. It was the 35mm market that they never supported with much in the way of pro level service. I had all three of my LX bodies in the shop at one time around 1999 or so. This was when the camera was still current. They actually tried to tell me that one of them wasn't repairable because of parts inavailability. They also tried that game with my A50/1.2 when it lost it's A contact. Now, if they have closed their European service facilities, it might be very difficult to get pro level service, since the service guys have more accepted pro brands to deal with. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
From: Ralf R. Radermacher paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Pro shooters have heard of Pentax. ...and they've heard of the mess Hoya-Pentax have made of their European customer service when they completely outsourced it, last spring. In the days of Pentax' own service facility in Hamburg you had your P67 back within days, including shipping. Now, the minimum is two weeks and if they have to order spares from Paris it's at least another two. No pro can afford to buy a camera that isn't backed by pro-level service. I know this is a dumb question, but I'm going to ask anyway ... If the parts have to come from Paris, why isn't the service center IN Paris? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
2010/2/16 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: If the parts have to come from Paris, why isn't the service center IN Paris? service relocated within hamburg - I assume - so some techs could be relocated as well whereas commercial HQ (except some parts of photo division) and thus distribution and warehousing moved to Roissy which is a humungous commercial district on the outskirts of paris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It comes with a lens with food =) I will code name it K de Ville 2010/2/14 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/2/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: It comes with a lens with food =) I will code name it K de Ville That thing is going to be a 645 deVille, I'm afraid. :-) Jostein 2010/2/14 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
Margus Männik wrote: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html Unfortunately it will be a lot longer than a month until I can afford it (even if it comes in at the under $10,000 price some have speculated). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
with a hemi sensor and 645 cubic pixels? :] 2010/2/14 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2010/2/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: It comes with a lens with food =) I will code name it K de Ville That thing is going to be a 645 deVille, I'm afraid. :-) Jostein 2010/2/14 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
I figure in three years, there will have been a couple of upgrades, and we should be able to pick up the first version for around 4K, maybe less. That's when I'll get one. Maybe. Although I'm not sure I need it. Paul On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Margus Männik wrote: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html Unfortunately it will be a lot longer than a month until I can afford it (even if it comes in at the under $10,000 price some have speculated). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Less than a month to wait... I figure in three years, there will have been a couple of upgrades, and we should be able to pick up the first version for around 4K, maybe less. That's when I'll get one. Maybe. Although I'm not sure I need it. I'm blue skying now for a 6x7 digital. They should be able to make a 100mp camera with that amount of real estate to work with. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
If you can find one. It will have to sell well enough to justify upgrades.
On 2/14/2010 3:59 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
I figure in three years, there will have been a couple of upgrades,
and we should be able to pick up the first version for around 4K,
maybe less. That's when I'll get one. Maybe. Although I'm not sure I
need it.
Paul
On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Margus Männik wrote:
http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html
Unfortunately it will be a lot longer than a month until I can afford
it (even if it comes in at the under $10,000 price some have
speculated).
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Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 04:51:19PM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit: If you can find one. It will have to sell well enough to justify upgrades. I've been getting the impression that the folks responsible for the K20D, K-m, K7, and K-x are pretty firmly attached to reality. It's just possible that this particular camera will also be attached to reality fairly well, and so sell. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Feb 14, 2010, at 4:17 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Less than a month to wait... I figure in three years, there will have been a couple of upgrades, and we should be able to pick up the first version for around 4K, maybe less. That's when I'll get one. Maybe. Although I'm not sure I need it. I'm blue skying now for a 6x7 digital. They should be able to make a 100mp camera with that amount of real estate to work with. I'm sure Pentax or someone else will eventually market a 6x7 -- or at least a proportionately larger sensor in a 6x7 body. Maybe when sensor prices come down to about half of what they are today, which they inevitably will. Going in a lot of naysayers contended that the sensor was basically a fixed cost that wouldn't drop a lot. But it seems the price has already come down substantially. Paul William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Feb 14, 2010, at 4:51 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
If you can find one. It will have to sell well enough to justify upgrades.
If it's less than 10K, it will sell.
Paul
On 2/14/2010 3:59 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:
I figure in three years, there will have been a couple of upgrades, and we
should be able to pick up the first version for around 4K, maybe less.
That's when I'll get one. Maybe. Although I'm not sure I need it.
Paul
On Feb 14, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Margus Männik wrote:
http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html
Unfortunately it will be a lot longer than a month until I can afford
it (even if it comes in at the under $10,000 price some have
speculated).
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Re: Less than a month to wait...
Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee wrote: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html About as exciting as the newest Ferrari, luxury watch, or whatever. I'd gladly have scraped together the money for a Pentax DSLR with a 24x36 mm sensor. This 645 is well beyond my reach. Besides, who'd want to buy a pro camera from a company that has just reduced its European customer service to NHS level? Put a Leica or Contax label on it and they might be able to sell a few to the usual crowd of dentists or surgeons with lots of black money that they can't spend on cars or boats because it would leave traces. But Pentax? They've never heard of that. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On Feb 14, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee wrote: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/new/index.html About as exciting as the newest Ferrari, luxury watch, or whatever. I'd gladly have scraped together the money for a Pentax DSLR with a 24x36 mm sensor. This 645 is well beyond my reach. Besides, who'd want to buy a pro camera from a company that has just reduced its European customer service to NHS level? Put a Leica or Contax label on it and they might be able to sell a few to the usual crowd of dentists or surgeons with lots of black money that they can't spend on cars or boats because it would leave traces. But Pentax? They've never heard of that. This is a workhorse of a camera. It's not a Leica that some would wear like a gold watch. Pro shooters have heard of Pentax. At one time, most of the NY fashion photographers were shooting Pentax 6x7, and the 645 had a good following among location shooters. If the 645D comes in under 10K, it will sell well. No, most of us won't buy one. We're largely advanced amateurs and lightweight pros, but there is a market for a camera like the 645D. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Less than a month to wait...
On 2/15/2010 12:30 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Margus Männikmar...@eol.ee wrote: Put a Leica or Contax label on it and they might be able to sell a few to the usual crowd of dentists or surgeons with lots of black money that they can't spend on cars or boats because it would leave traces. But Pentax? They've never heard of that. Ralf Ralf, I am thinking that you're being over-well-informed... ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
