Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-11-06 Thread Jan van Wijk
Late to the party, but anyway ;-)

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:15:37 +0100 Henk Terhell wrote:
>
>12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in K-3 II.
>But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

GPS and flip-screen are both nice-to-have for me, since I will mostly be using 
the camera
alongside my trusty K1, which is the onoy 'real' and more or less up to date 
cam I have now
after passing my K3 on to my son.

And since I plan to go on a two-week safari next year (october, Botswana) 
this will be a perfect backup-cam as well as long-lens rig (with the 150-450)

I hope AF speed and reliability have improved significantly ;-)

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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-28 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 08:56:16AM -0400, Rick Womer wrote:
> I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy one. 
> Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by passing 
> fireflies, I don???t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.
> 
> Rick

It all depends on what you want to use the camera for. For me, AF is important.
I'm sure it's going to have better AF than a K-5; the question is how much 
better.

A year ago (was it really that long ago? How time flies!) I took a trip to
Austin to watch the inaugural Indycar race at Circuit of the Americas.
I never like relying on just a single body on a trip (and having two bodies
means you can have two different focal lengths ready at all times), so for
this trip I borrowed Larry's K-3 to go along with my K-5.  After reviewing
the first day's shooting it was apparent that The K-3 was doing a better
job of focus tracking - with comparable shots with the same lens mounted I
had noticeably more out-of-focus shots with the K-5 than with the K-3.
There was still room for improvement; I'm waiting for reports on just how
much better the K3-III is before deciding whether I'm tempted (although
the alternative I'm considering - going lightweight with an OM-D system -
is less attractive now in the light of the Olympus name getting dropped).

Other things that interest me are the 12fps continuous shooting frame rate
(with a 32 frame buffer), dual memory card slots, and wireless/bluetooth.
I personally don't care about video, so the limitation of 4K to 30 fps
isn't a problem for me, but I can see it would be a problem for others.



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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-28 Thread Alan C
So there you have it then. Buy a K1ii & be done with it. All requests 
answered.


Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 10:21 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
Some people estimate the cost of K-3III may initially be more than $ 
1900 (over 200 K yen in Japan).
Adding a GPS-module of € 250 brings the cost above that of the K-1 II 
which has GPS, astro-tracer (and flippy screen).

The K-1 II is sold for around  € 1850 in Europe and $ 1800 in US.

 Henk

Op 2020-10-28 om 04:49 schreef Alan C:

Indeed it is. Works very well on my K5.

https://www.ricoh-imaging.eu/eu_en/gps-unit-o-gps1

Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 12:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed 
at B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support 
Astrotracing, just not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I 
said before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as 
possible and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure 
eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in 
the Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made 
when designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, 
sometimes those choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems 
to be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my 
problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left 
on the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in 
Astrotracer. Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to 
buy one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes 
illuminated by passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling 
advantage over my K-5.


Rick

On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  
wrote:


12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS 
which is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk













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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-28 Thread Henk Terhell
Some people estimate the cost of K-3III may initially be more than $ 
1900 (over 200 K yen in Japan).
Adding a GPS-module of € 250 brings the cost above that of the K-1 II 
which has GPS, astro-tracer (and flippy screen).

The K-1 II is sold for around  € 1850 in Europe and $ 1800 in US.

 Henk

Op 2020-10-28 om 04:49 schreef Alan C:

Indeed it is. Works very well on my K5.

https://www.ricoh-imaging.eu/eu_en/gps-unit-o-gps1

Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 12:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed 
at B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support 
Astrotracing, just not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I said 
before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as 
possible and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure 
eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in 
the Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made when 
designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, sometimes 
those choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems 
to be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my 
problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to 
buy one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes 
illuminated by passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling 
advantage over my K-5.


Rick

On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  
wrote:


12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which 
is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk










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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread Alan C

Indeed it is. Works very well on my K5.

https://www.ricoh-imaging.eu/eu_en/gps-unit-o-gps1

Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 12:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed 
at B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support Astrotracing, 
just not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I said 
before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as 
possible and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in 
the Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made when 
designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, sometimes those 
choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems 
to be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my 
problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy 
one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated 
by passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.


Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which 
is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk







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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed at 
B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support Astrotracing, just 
not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I said 
before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as possible 
and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in the 
Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made when 
designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, sometimes those 
choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems to 
be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy 
one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by 
passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.


Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which 
is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk





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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread Henk Terhell

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy 
one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by 
passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.


Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is 
in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk




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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 27.10.20 um 10:15 schrieb Henk Terhell:


Missing GPS which is in K-3 II.


Just received the official German announcement.

I might have been tempted to replace my K3 Mk nought. But without GPS
I'd rather not.

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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread Alan C

Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on the K5.

On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. Has 
this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy one. Apart 
from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by passing fireflies, I 
don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.

Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in K-3 II.
But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 06:52 schreef Paul Sorenson:

Hmmm. Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's another 
link...

https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/  


-p

On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:

Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170  


Thought I'd pass it on.

Ciao,

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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread Rick Womer
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy one. Apart 
from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by passing fireflies, I 
don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.

Rick

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> 12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in K-3 
> II.
> But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.
> 
> On YouTube: https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2020-10-27 om 06:52 schreef Paul Sorenson:
>> Hmmm. Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's another 
>> link...
>> 
>> https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/
>>  
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...
>>> 
>>> https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thought I'd pass it on.
>>> 
>>> Ciao,
>>> 
>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread Henk Terhell
12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in 
K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube: https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 06:52 schreef Paul Sorenson:
Hmmm. Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's 
another link...


https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/ 



-p

On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:

Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170 



Thought I'd pass it on.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne





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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-27 Thread David Mann
Yeah their SSL certificate (issued for "*.ricoh.co.jp") doesn't match the 
domain name in the link (ricoh-imaging.co.jp).  Most likely an innocent 
mistake...

Cheers,
Dave

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm.  Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's another 
> link...
> 
> https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/
> 
> -p
> 
> On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...
>> 
>> https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170
>>  
>> 
>> Thought I'd pass it on.
>> 
>> Ciao,
>> 
>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>> 
>> 
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Re: New K3 Mark III

2020-10-26 Thread Paul Sorenson
Hmmm.  Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's 
another link...


https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/

-p

On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:

Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170 



Thought I'd pass it on.

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New K3 Mark III

2020-10-26 Thread Pete McIntosh

Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170

Thought I'd pass it on.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne


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