Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Bob Pdml]

> On 27 Mar 2020, at 17:28, John  wrote:
> 
> On 3/26/2020 21:35:35, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> We are keeping our French classes going over Skype, but it's not as much fun 
>> as personal contact.
> 
> Have you considered using post cards?

Not since about 1983
> 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[John]

On 3/26/2020 21:35:35, Bob Pdml wrote:


We are keeping our French classes going over Skype, but it's not as much fun as 
personal contact.



Have you considered using post cards?

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Larry Colen]

> On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:21 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> The plan seems to be that the emergency relief volunteers will provide home 
> services (shopping, etc) for those housebound for various reasons.  I asked 
> what the protocols and supply of PPE was like for the incursions into 
> possibly infected households.  The "manager" told me I could hold my breath 
> whilst delivering, at which point I considered myself retired from Red Cross 
> life.
> 

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[mike wilson]

> On 26 March 2020 at 22:52 Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> 
> We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of Chicago 
> is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good idea. 

Things are pretty quiet here. Spouse working from home doing essential Police 
support work, daughter also gobbling bandwidth, ostensibly for online 
schoolwork.  I am still at work, as I can work alone preparing stuff for the 
resumption of classes.  I'm in the support side of the science department in an 
FE/HE college.  I don't do classes so no need to be transferring stuff to 
online, although I'm helping our more technically challenged lecturers to do 
that.  The rest of my team are doing the same thing in other centres.

Traffic is down to what I estimate to be 1970s levels, unfortunately with an 
increased percentage of toerag drivers.  I could consider cycling if it wasn't 
for the aforementioned people and the presence of a couple of substantial hills 
en route.  I don't think my knees (the reason I gave up cycling in the first 
place) could cope with that.

Food and other essentials are reappearing in the shops after the mass panic 
buying of a week or so ago.

Rumour has it that we had the first loss of life at work in the last few days.  
It's being kept incognito at the moment, presumably while the College 
authorities contact the person's contacts.  I don't think we're anywhere near 
the peak yet.  Hopefully, the government's (confused and contradictory) advice 
to flatten the curve will work.

What I'm finding really interesting is the British Red Cross's reaction to the 
situation.  Until December, I was a long-standing, highly trained volunteer in 
the first-aid section.  In its wisdom the BRC closed that section down as it 
wasn't making enough money.  Volunteers could transfer to other sections or 
leave.  Nice.  I transferred to the section offering emergency relief - it's 
not very skilled work but it's service.  The plan seems to be that the 
emergency relief volunteers will provide home services (shopping, etc) for 
those housebound for various reasons.  I asked what the protocols and supply of 
PPE was like for the incursions into possibly infected households.  The 
"manager" told me I could hold my breath whilst delivering, at which point I 
considered myself retired from Red Cross life.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Mark Roberts]

Olga Iona Custer wrote:

>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> Olga Iona Custer wrote:
>> 
>>> Mark and Christine, what is your area? I teach sociology.
>> 
>> This semester I'm teaching Photography I, Adobe Photoshop and Adobe
>> Illustrator. Plus I'm doing Photography II as an independent study
>> with a student who needs it to graduate in May (the course only runs
>> in the fall semester).
>
>Wow, nice classes! 
>Is it for the university or a private venture?

Little university on the outskirts of Boston.
www.lasell.edu

 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Subash Jeyan]

good here too. india declared a complete lockdown for three weeks until
april 14 although according to official figures the number of infected
patient stands at 716 and the death toll at 18 (for various reasons,
the official figures are suspect).

for the last six days i have been housebound and i generally go out
shopping for groceries once a day. and it is a delight because hardly
anyone is out there. i've got a teenager who is going to college this
summer in the house but he seems to be taking the lockdown well between
catching up on his reading (history), his backlog of movies and the
occasional gaming on ps4 :) we are of course the lucky ones. there are
heartbreaking images emerging on the plight of migrant labourers and
the homeless: 
https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/journalists-capture-heartbreaking-images-of-jobless-migrants-walking-home-after-covid-19-lockdown-2552461.html

media being an essential service here, we start working from this
monday. with all public transport suspended, the office is arranging
transport. i hope to take the necessary precautions but it'll be a
welcome change. i hope you do too stay safe.

~subash



On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 01:35:35 +
Bob Pdml  wrote: 

> Good like Christine and everyone. It's important for your mental
> health to get outside as much as you can within the limits of your
> local rules. Over here we can go out for one exercise session, walk,
> run or cycle, per day, plus shopping. People where i am seem to be
> fairly reasonable about keeping two metres apart. I generally go out
> for a ride in the morning for an hour, and a walk 20 minutes along
> the river to a supermarket in the late afternoon to pick up fresh
> veggies etc. This morning I went for a 30-minute run on the riverside
> path around Greenwich Peninsula, and cycled 30 minutes each way to a
> supermarket in the afternoon.
> 
> The weather is still beautiful, but quite cold. There's very little
> traffic and the air is clean, so it's a great pleasure to be out.
> 
> We are keeping our French classes going over Skype, but it's not as
> much fun as personal contact.
> 
> I work during the day and we're well set up for home working, but my
> ancient personal laptop has given up the ghost so I'm having to do
> everything with my iPhone (my ancient iPad's not up to it), which is
> very inconvenient. I'm arranging to cycle in to the office next week,
> currently closed except for security, to pick up the laptop I have
> there.
> 
> > On 26 Mar 2020, at 22:52, Christine Aguila 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City
> > of Chicago is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I
> > think is a good idea.  
> > 
> > I’ve been pretty busy with shifting my teaching to online.  Our
> > community college district shifted pretty quickly as things turned,
> > and faculty have really risen to the occasion. This week I’ve had
> > video sessions with students, and I’ve been greatly inspired by
> > students wanting to persist with the semester despite these
> > difficult circumstances. 
> > 
> > What is worrisome is finding food and supplies.  I haven’t been out
> > in 10 days expect for a 30 minute walk in an empty park.  I’m not
> > that keen on going to the store, but I will have to in the next few
> > days, and, of course, I will take precautions.  Ordering online is
> > great, but so much is out of stock and the wait times can sometimes
> > be a bit long, but it just requires us to do a bit of rationing and
> > be smart about how we use up supplies.  A constant refrain in the
> > house is “we’ll just have to make do,” which everyone around the
> > world is saying.
> > 
> > Also, we have some friends who are nurses, and I have some students
> > whose mom’s are nurses, so we’re very worried about them.  There
> > are women everywhere in America sewing cotton face masks for
> > hospitals. Maybe you’ve seen the calls for face masks on Facebook.
> >  I’d love to stitch some up since I have sewing skills, but my
> > school work has my time pretty occupied.  Maybe I can stitch some
> > up week after next, since we will be on spring break.
> > 
> > Christine
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> >> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Stanley Halpin
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact
> >> with others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong
> >> Stay At Home order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out
> >> for food and meds but otherwise Stay Home.
> >> 
> >> I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to
> >> ignore what is happening elsewhere and start putting together some
> >> Blurb books, catching up on travels I have done over the last 7
> >> years.
> >> 
> >> I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh
> >> WG-70, but I am thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take
> >> advantage of its features…


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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Bob Pdml]

Good like Christine and everyone. It's important for your mental health to get 
outside as much as you can within the limits of your local rules. Over here we 
can go out for one exercise session, walk, run or cycle, per day, plus 
shopping. People where i am seem to be fairly reasonable about keeping two 
metres apart. I generally go out for a ride in the morning for an hour, and a 
walk 20 minutes along the river to a supermarket in the late afternoon to pick 
up fresh veggies etc. This morning I went for a 30-minute run on the riverside 
path around Greenwich Peninsula, and cycled 30 minutes each way to a 
supermarket in the afternoon.

The weather is still beautiful, but quite cold. There's very little traffic and 
the air is clean, so it's a great pleasure to be out.

We are keeping our French classes going over Skype, but it's not as much fun as 
personal contact.

I work during the day and we're well set up for home working, but my ancient 
personal laptop has given up the ghost so I'm having to do everything with my 
iPhone (my ancient iPad's not up to it), which is very inconvenient. I'm 
arranging to cycle in to the office next week, currently closed except for 
security, to pick up the laptop I have there.

> On 26 Mar 2020, at 22:52, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of Chicago 
> is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good idea.  
> 
> I’ve been pretty busy with shifting my teaching to online.  Our community 
> college district shifted pretty quickly as things turned, and faculty have 
> really risen to the occasion. This week I’ve had video sessions with 
> students, and I’ve been greatly inspired by students wanting to persist with 
> the semester despite these difficult circumstances. 
> 
> What is worrisome is finding food and supplies.  I haven’t been out in 10 
> days expect for a 30 minute walk in an empty park.  I’m not that keen on 
> going to the store, but I will have to in the next few days, and, of course, 
> I will take precautions.  Ordering online is great, but so much is out of 
> stock and the wait times can sometimes be a bit long, but it just requires us 
> to do a bit of rationing and be smart about how we use up supplies.  A 
> constant refrain in the house is “we’ll just have to make do,” which everyone 
> around the world is saying.
> 
> Also, we have some friends who are nurses, and I have some students whose 
> mom’s are nurses, so we’re very worried about them.  There are women 
> everywhere in America sewing cotton face masks for hospitals. Maybe you’ve 
> seen the calls for face masks on Facebook.   I’d love to stitch some up since 
> I have sewing skills, but my school work has my time pretty occupied.  Maybe 
> I can stitch some up week after next, since we will be on spring break.
> 
> Christine
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Stanley Halpin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with 
>> others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home 
>> order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but 
>> otherwise Stay Home.
>> 
>> I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to ignore what 
>> is happening elsewhere and start putting together some Blurb books, catching 
>> up on travels I have done over the last 7 years.
>> 
>> I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh WG-70, but I 
>> am thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take advantage of its features…
>> 
>> stan
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Olga Iona Custer]

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Olga Iona Custer wrote:
> 
>> Mark and Christine, what is your area? I teach sociology.
> 
> This semester I'm teaching Photography I, Adobe Photoshop and Adobe
> Illustrator. Plus I'm doing Photography II as an independent study
> with a student who needs it to graduate in May (the course only runs
> in the fall semester).
Wow, nice classes! 
Is it for the university or a private venture?
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Mark Roberts]

Olga Iona Custer wrote:

>Mark and Christine, what is your area? I teach sociology.

This semester I'm teaching Photography I, Adobe Photoshop and Adobe
Illustrator. Plus I'm doing Photography II as an independent study
with a student who needs it to graduate in May (the course only runs
in the fall semester).

 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Mark Roberts]

We're pretty much locked down here, though I don't think we're
required to be. Yet. But with Dr. Lisa in the house we're on a pretty
short leash :-) Though Lisa and I are edging ever closer to the
high-risk age group, her 92-year-old mother who lives with us is
decidedly there, so we have to watch out for her sake.

All my courses have moved on line, of course. Fortunately, I've always
had a lot of web material of my own. I'm trying to crank out YouTube
tutorials but it's a lot of work! I'd much rather be teaching in
person. In a couple of days our extended two-week spring break ends
and I'll see how engaged the students really are. Crossing my
fingers...

Next week Lisa goes back to work. Being a pathologist she doesn't
generally interact with patients or the public but it's still going to
increase her exposure.

Our home situation is good. Everything, including the hospital, is
walking distance for us (we usually fill up the car with gas once a
month and usually put less than 5000 miles per year on it). We've got
uncrowded places we can walk or run. One benefit of all this is that
I've been able to get out running more often. I just checked my log
and was astonished to find I've run 47 miles in the past week. So
unless I get sick and die I'll be very fit by the end of this ;-)

Stay healthy, my friends.
 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[John]

On 3/23/2020 12:23:55, Stanley Halpin wrote:

I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with
others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home
order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but
otherwise Stay Home.



I spent most of the day making one of these ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1=ZusqX4Cfa3w=emb_logo

... slightly modified since I don't have access to the kind of filters they use.

I didn't have a kit, so I made it from the materials I have on hand. My material 
is a bit thicker & I'm not a professional seamstress, so assembling my mask 
didn't go quite as smoothly as the video.


The shell is a tightly woven polyester (like the fabric that covered your 
grandmother's couch) and I sacrificed a high quality (linen?) dinner napkin for 
the liner.


But I only made three mistakes I had to go back & rework. And one of those is 
NOT MY FAULT ... I cut the elastic longer than the pattern called for and it 
still ended up too short & I had to replace it with still longer elastic.


For the filter I'm using 10-12 cup Mr.Coffee filters - 2x doubled over to give 
me four layers in front of my nose & mouth.


You can download the pattern here:

https://diymask.site/

I also have these gloves (I keep a box around just for scut work):

https://www.amazon.com/mil-Nitrile-Powder-Free-Gloves-Medium/dp/B00O3A00U8

Wearing them when I go out should be sufficient reminder not to touch my face.

I am staying home. I didn't make my weekly shopping trip this last Tuesday, but 
I will run out of 4-cup filters for my Mr. Coffee early next week (I have an 
almost full box of the 10-12 cup filters but they won't work in my coffee maker.


I've already tried. They flop over & I end up with a pot full of coffee grinds.

So I probably WILL be making a shopping trip next Tuesday.

I'm not counting on the mask to keep me from getting COVID19, but I hope if I do 
somehow get it & have to go out again during the pre-symptomatic contagious 
period the mask might help me not to be the one spreading it around.





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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Olga Iona Custer]

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> 
>> We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of 
>> Chicago is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good 
>> idea.  
>> 
>> I’ve been pretty busy with shifting my teaching to online.  Our community 
>> college district shifted pretty quickly as things turned, and faculty have 
>> really risen to the occasion. This week I’ve had video sessions with 
>> students, and I’ve been greatly inspired by students wanting to persist with 
>> the semester despite these difficult circumstances. 
> 
> Other than you, Mark and Olga, who else on the list teaches college level 
> courses?
Mark and Christine, what is your area? I teach sociology.
> 
> How is the book business going?  On one hand I could see that business would 
> be booming and you’re able to sell off a bunch of stock, even if you aren’t 
> buying, on the other hand I can see how it would nearly shut down over this.
> 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

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On 3/26/2020 09:01:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

This enforced isolation is likely the best way to slow down the spread of the 
plague, as much as it's a true PITA. I've only barely started doing anything 
with my new camera other than testing and learning it since it got here… :(

I think this little piece may well become a classic of the AC (After Covid-19) 
era:
https://youtu.be/LVsY-bZ4o1A

G
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On Mar 23, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Stanley Halpin  wrote:

I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with others. 
But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home order 
effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but otherwise 
Stay Home.

I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to ignore what is 
happening elsewhere and start putting together some Blurb books, catching up on 
travels I have done over the last 7 years.

I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh WG-70, but I am 
thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take advantage of its features…

stan






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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Larry Colen]

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of Chicago 
> is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good idea.  
> 
> I’ve been pretty busy with shifting my teaching to online.  Our community 
> college district shifted pretty quickly as things turned, and faculty have 
> really risen to the occasion. This week I’ve had video sessions with 
> students, and I’ve been greatly inspired by students wanting to persist with 
> the semester despite these difficult circumstances. 

Other than you, Mark and Olga, who else on the list teaches college level 
courses?

How is the book business going?  On one hand I could see that business would be 
booming and you’re able to sell off a bunch of stock, even if you aren’t 
buying, on the other hand I can see how it would nearly shut down over this.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Christine Aguila]

We just got an emergency alert via our mobile phones that the City of Chicago 
is closing down the lakefront, beaches etc, which I think is a good idea.  

I’ve been pretty busy with shifting my teaching to online.  Our community 
college district shifted pretty quickly as things turned, and faculty have 
really risen to the occasion. This week I’ve had video sessions with students, 
and I’ve been greatly inspired by students wanting to persist with the semester 
despite these difficult circumstances. 

What is worrisome is finding food and supplies.  I haven’t been out in 10 days 
expect for a 30 minute walk in an empty park.  I’m not that keen on going to 
the store, but I will have to in the next few days, and, of course, I will take 
precautions.  Ordering online is great, but so much is out of stock and the 
wait times can sometimes be a bit long, but it just requires us to do a bit of 
rationing and be smart about how we use up supplies.  A constant refrain in the 
house is “we’ll just have to make do,” which everyone around the world is 
saying.

Also, we have some friends who are nurses, and I have some students whose mom’s 
are nurses, so we’re very worried about them.  There are women everywhere in 
America sewing cotton face masks for hospitals. Maybe you’ve seen the calls for 
face masks on Facebook.   I’d love to stitch some up since I have sewing 
skills, but my school work has my time pretty occupied.  Maybe I can stitch 
some up week after next, since we will be on spring break.

Christine




> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with 
> others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home 
> order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but 
> otherwise Stay Home.
> 
> I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to ignore what 
> is happening elsewhere and start putting together some Blurb books, catching 
> up on travels I have done over the last 7 years.
> 
> I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh WG-70, but I 
> am thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take advantage of its features…
> 
> stan
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[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

This enforced isolation is likely the best way to slow down the spread of the 
plague, as much as it's a true PITA. I've only barely started doing anything 
with my new camera other than testing and learning it since it got here… :(

I think this little piece may well become a classic of the AC (After Covid-19) 
era: 
https://youtu.be/LVsY-bZ4o1A

G
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> On Mar 23, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with 
> others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home 
> order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but 
> otherwise Stay Home.
> 
> I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to ignore what 
> is happening elsewhere and start putting together some Blurb books, catching 
> up on travels I have done over the last 7 years.
> 
> I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh WG-70, but I 
> am thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take advantage of its features…
> 
> stan


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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:28 PM Bill  wrote:

>
>
> What is sad is that we need legislation to keep people from acting like
> retarded gerbils.
>

And what happens in the midst of a pandemic, Liz is finally cleared to
start her chemo Friday. No thats whatt i fear the most. Hopsital visits
every week now.

I'm doing my part to stay in my house or at least on my property but i have
to go get meds here and there, luckily i use a small pharmacy and hopefully
not much traffic.

Dave

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Bill]

On 3/25/2020 12:51 AM, mike wilson wrote:






On the other side of the coin, we are nearly all going to get this at some 
point.  Maybe it's better to get it sooner rather than later for those who are 
likely to suffer excessively.  That, or much, much later.  Our stuff was 
planned long before the present emergency and mostly completed before the 
present regulations were enacted.


I'm in the I'd rather be in the didn't get it at all camp, thank you.


My own view is that we should have had this legislation in place the moment 
China went into lockdown.  People would have then had time to properly apply 
the regulations by the time they needed to be effective.  Our present, 
rearguard, action is going to be totally ineffective.  I haven't seen a single 
government be able to take an off-the-shelf emergency plan and implement it, 
which is part of what I thought we paid them for.



What is sad is that we need legislation to keep people from acting like 
retarded gerbils.


bill

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Steve Cottrell]

On 24/3/20, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The point is, if you don't need to go out in public, don't go out.
>Our paint guys had 400 transactions on Saturday in a 10 hour shopping 
>day, and the numbers indicated that virtually every one involved mixing 
>paint for people.
>Sorry, but home decorating is not an emergency, no matter how bored you 
>are.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[mike wilson]

> On 25 March 2020 at 01:58 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/24/2020 3:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > 
> >> On 24 March 2020 at 14:31 Postmaster  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill wrote:
> >>
> >>> We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an
> >>> essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home
> >>> need something to do.
> >>
> >> It's probably just a matter of "well, we were planning to paint the
> >> living room anyway and now we find ourselves with a lot of free
> >> time..." It's literally what I'd be doing now if Lisa had ordered the
> >> paint color she wanted in time. (Too late now so I'm off the hook!)
> > 
> > Painting would be good.  So far, have project managed the building of a 
> > garden office, remodelled the garden and, if the manufacturers had not 
> > refused to deliver the new sliding doors, I would be in the middle of 
> > chopping a lump out of the back of the house to fit them.  I might yet be 
> > reroofing the conservatory.  And I'm still at work
> > 
> 
> The point is, if you don't need to go out in public, don't go out.
> Our paint guys had 400 transactions on Saturday in a 10 hour shopping 
> day, and the numbers indicated that virtually every one involved mixing 
> paint for people.
> Sorry, but home decorating is not an emergency, no matter how bored you 
> are.

On the other side of the coin, we are nearly all going to get this at some 
point.  Maybe it's better to get it sooner rather than later for those who are 
likely to suffer excessively.  That, or much, much later.  Our stuff was 
planned long before the present emergency and mostly completed before the 
present regulations were enacted.  

My own view is that we should have had this legislation in place the moment 
China went into lockdown.  People would have then had time to properly apply 
the regulations by the time they needed to be effective.  Our present, 
rearguard, action is going to be totally ineffective.  I haven't seen a single 
government be able to take an off-the-shelf emergency plan and implement it, 
which is part of what I thought we paid them for.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Bill]

On 3/24/2020 3:10 PM, mike wilson wrote:



On 24 March 2020 at 14:31 Postmaster  wrote:


Bill wrote:


We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an
essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home
need something to do.


It's probably just a matter of "well, we were planning to paint the
living room anyway and now we find ourselves with a lot of free
time..." It's literally what I'd be doing now if Lisa had ordered the
paint color she wanted in time. (Too late now so I'm off the hook!)


Painting would be good.  So far, have project managed the building of a garden 
office, remodelled the garden and, if the manufacturers had not refused to 
deliver the new sliding doors, I would be in the middle of chopping a lump out 
of the back of the house to fit them.  I might yet be reroofing the 
conservatory.  And I'm still at work



The point is, if you don't need to go out in public, don't go out.
Our paint guys had 400 transactions on Saturday in a 10 hour shopping 
day, and the numbers indicated that virtually every one involved mixing 
paint for people.
Sorry, but home decorating is not an emergency, no matter how bored you 
are.


bill

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>I haven't seen anyone other than my partner closer than about 6 feet away 
>in that time, other than to use Apple Pay to touch a machine at the grocery 
>store

Something worth mentioning: Don't pay (or take change!) in cash if you
can possibly avoid it. Money passes through a lot of hands during its
lifetime and there's no telling what it might pick up. Credit cards
good, chip credit cards better and contactless even better.

 
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Yes, we all have to work together to beat this plague. 

Aside from going to the grocery store for supplies twice, and stopping to get a 
take-out lunch today at a nearby restaurant on my walk, and riding my bicycle 
on "isolation exercise" rides, I've barely left the condo for eight days. I 
haven't seen anyone other than my partner closer than about 6 feet away in that 
time, other than to use Apple Pay to touch a machine at the grocery store I 
don't touch anything. 

There are a bunch of different rules of lock down in different places. And 
there's no credible analysis of which of them are working to diminish the 
problem and which aren't as yet. That takes more days and more sample analysis 
than can have been done so far. 

Many will die, have died, in all the places where I see reportage. Some places 
are showing slowdown in the advancement of the infections, others are still 
accelerating. I haven't seen much reportage from South America or Africa yet. 
The body counts could be enormous; I just don't know.

And the blowhard in chief is talking about things as if it were already over 
and done. 'We can do more than one thing! We can get back to work and save 
everyone too! Enough of this being closed down! We'll come back strong! …' and 
so forth. Fecking imbecile. 

Keep working at it, follow sensible precautions until the situation is properly 
addressed, ignore (and fire) the imbeciles. That's what we can do. 

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[mike wilson]

> On 24 March 2020 at 14:31 Postmaster  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bill wrote:
> 
> >We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an 
> >essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home 
> >need something to do. 
> 
> It's probably just a matter of "well, we were planning to paint the
> living room anyway and now we find ourselves with a lot of free
> time..." It's literally what I'd be doing now if Lisa had ordered the
> paint color she wanted in time. (Too late now so I'm off the hook!)

Painting would be good.  So far, have project managed the building of a garden 
office, remodelled the garden and, if the manufacturers had not refused to 
deliver the new sliding doors, I would be in the middle of chopping a lump out 
of the back of the house to fit them.  I might yet be reroofing the 
conservatory.  And I'm still at work

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

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> On Mar 24, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> A hate being a snitch but if this goes on I'll give the authorities a
> call. I haven't been outside for almost two weeks and I have no use for
> people contributing to an eventual overload of our health systems.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

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> On 24 March 2020 at 14:23 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> See how some Americans are disobeying the regulations:
> 
> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/gabrielsanchez/americans-coronavirus-social-distancing-shelter-in-place?

They missed the pic of president tweety and his minions huddled together on the 
platform telling everyone to do it.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Bill]

On 3/24/2020 11:47 AM, John wrote:
I note that there aren't many of us old farts in those photos**. It's 
appears to be mostly younger adults.


According to news I've been following they aren't likely to get real 
sick & die from the virus, plus I think there might be an unhealthy dose 
of "Ok, Boomer" in their attitude. They want us to die so they can 
inherit it all.


I really don't think most people think beyond themselves.


I'm just surprised Bill can find "self entitled fucktards" in Canada.


Too much American influence on us, I guess. :)


It's Canada where people apologize when you sneeze on them?


I haven't had that happen, but I did get an apology from someone whose 
toe I had stepped on.


**Or behind the camera going by the "Senior Photo Essay Editor's" photo.



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[John]

I note that there aren't many of us old farts in those photos**. It's appears to 
be mostly younger adults.


According to news I've been following they aren't likely to get real sick & die 
from the virus, plus I think there might be an unhealthy dose of "Ok, Boomer" in 
their attitude. They want us to die so they can inherit it all.


I'm just surprised Bill can find "self entitled fucktards" in Canada.

It's Canada where people apologize when you sneeze on them?

**Or behind the camera going by the "Senior Photo Essay Editor's" photo.


On 3/24/2020 10:23:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

See how some Americans are disobeying the regulations:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/gabrielsanchez/americans-coronavirus-social-distancing-shelter-in-place?


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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:47 AM Bill  wrote:




Saskatchewan has declared a state of emergency, as of yesterday we had
66 confirmed cases in the entire province, none of which can be
attributed to community transmission. It's all sick people coming home
from their holidays in virus hot spots so far, though it is inevitable
it will get out into the population eventually. There are too many self
entitled fucktards out there to ensure that will happen.

The home improvement store that I help manage is still open, though a
lot of what are considered non essential businesses have been closed by
government order.

We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an
essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home
need something to do. Why the idiots don't just stay home and read a
book is beyond me.
I can understand if a pipe bursts that you need to fix it, but deciding
that you want to change the colour of your living room walls doesn't
strike me as a pressing need. See the above comment about self entitled
fucktards.

I'm still going to work every day, trying to keep the mandated two
meters from people. Most people are being good about it, the few that
aren't I just walk away from. They are the aforementioned self entitled
fucktards that I don't have any use for anyway.

Stay healthy, and stay home if you can.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Postmaster]

Bill wrote:

>We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an 
>essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home 
>need something to do. 

It's probably just a matter of "well, we were planning to paint the
living room anyway and now we find ourselves with a lot of free
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 24.03.20 um 14:46 schrieb Bill:


We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an
essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home
need something to do.


We don't have a lock-down but a ban on groups of more than two people
out on the streets.

Our DIY stores are also still open in order to give people living in the
same household something to do and keep them from going at each others'
throats. Various associations are already warning that domestic violence
will become a bigger problem than ever.

The city of Cologne's two recycling yards are run over by people
clearing out their basements and safe distances can no longer be
maintained there. They're now threatening to close them.

The café opposite is not allowed to serve people at its tables but may
sell its pastries and coffee for take-away. There's a cluster of people
standing in front eating, drinking and smoking although take-away food
and drinks must not be consumed within 40 metres of the point-of-sale.

A hate being a snitch but if this goes on I'll give the authorities a
call. I haven't been outside for almost two weeks and I have no use for
people contributing to an eventual overload of our health systems.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Daniel J. Matyola]

See how some Americans are disobeying the regulations:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/gabrielsanchez/americans-coronavirus-social-distancing-shelter-in-place?


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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:47 AM Bill  wrote:

>
>
> Saskatchewan has declared a state of emergency, as of yesterday we had
> 66 confirmed cases in the entire province, none of which can be
> attributed to community transmission. It's all sick people coming home
> from their holidays in virus hot spots so far, though it is inevitable
> it will get out into the population eventually. There are too many self
> entitled fucktards out there to ensure that will happen.
>
> The home improvement store that I help manage is still open, though a
> lot of what are considered non essential businesses have been closed by
> government order.
>
> We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an
> essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home
> need something to do. Why the idiots don't just stay home and read a
> book is beyond me.
> I can understand if a pipe bursts that you need to fix it, but deciding
> that you want to change the colour of your living room walls doesn't
> strike me as a pressing need. See the above comment about self entitled
> fucktards.
>
> I'm still going to work every day, trying to keep the mandated two
> meters from people. Most people are being good about it, the few that
> aren't I just walk away from. They are the aforementioned self entitled
> fucktards that I don't have any use for anyway.
>
> Stay healthy, and stay home if you can.
>
> bill
>
>
>
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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Bill]

Saskatchewan has declared a state of emergency, as of yesterday we had 
66 confirmed cases in the entire province, none of which can be 
attributed to community transmission. It's all sick people coming home 
from their holidays in virus hot spots so far, though it is inevitable 
it will get out into the population eventually. There are too many self 
entitled fucktards out there to ensure that will happen.


The home improvement store that I help manage is still open, though a 
lot of what are considered non essential businesses have been closed by 
government order.


We are selling record amounts of paint. Apparently that has become an 
essential product as people who are supposed to be working from home 
need something to do. Why the idiots don't just stay home and read a 
book is beyond me.
I can understand if a pipe bursts that you need to fix it, but deciding 
that you want to change the colour of your living room walls doesn't 
strike me as a pressing need. See the above comment about self entitled 
fucktards.


I'm still going to work every day, trying to keep the mandated two 
meters from people. Most people are being good about it, the few that 
aren't I just walk away from. They are the aforementioned self entitled 
fucktards that I don't have any use for anyway.


Stay healthy, and stay home if you can.

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 23.03.20 um 17:23 schrieb Stanley Halpin:

I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with others. 
But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home order 
effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but otherwise 
Stay Home.


We don't have any confinement. Christian democrat minister-president
Armin Laschet of North Rhine-Westphalia thinks there can't be any
further restrictions given that religious freedom is already restricted
since people can't attend mass. The guy used to be chief editor of the
episcopal newsletter in the town of Aachen and methinks he'd better
stayed there. To make things worse, he's thrown his hat into the ring to
become Merkel's successor.

Instead there's a ban on being together outside in groups of more than
two people who are not part of the same family or living under the same
roof. All others have to keep their distance.

All bars, pubs, restaurants (unless for take-away) and shops with the
exception of supermarkets, pharmacies, drugstores and DIY stores are
closed. The latter supposedly in order to keep people occupied while
they're staying at home. All schools and public places like museums,
sports grounds etc. are closed as well.

As a result, Cologne city centre is as calm as on Xmas day. No car
traffic, no noise, no exhaust fumes, no smells from the ventilation of
the numerous restaurant kitchens around us. No more stink from the curry
house behind our back yard when they let their bread scorch in the oven
yet again. Great if it weren't for the gruesome circumstances.

I haven't been out of the house for a week and a half and frankly I'm
not missing much except our weekly day of shopping and tourism in
Belgium on Fridays and of course our Easter holiday in Dunkirk, even
more so since we hadn't been able to go there over Xmas.

Other than that, we're fine. Let's hope all this will be over in the
foreseeable future.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Steve Cottrell]

On 23/3/20, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I've been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with
>others. But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home
>order effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds
>but otherwise Stay Home.

Pretty much the advice here, although in the next hour or so I think they are 
going to announce some very strict new rules in London as people are still 
packing themselves into Tube trains, and lots being silly at the weekend by 
congregating in numbers at popular beauty spots etc. Some people still take it 
all very lightly, and it seems legislation will be needed to curb the flouters.

We've been pretty much at home for the duration, lucky to live on the edge of a 
village so we can walk out the door and exercise up the lane. I've got to go to 
Chatham in Kent tomorrow to help move my boat to a nearby marina ready for 
lifting out on Wednesday onto a truck so she can be moved overland to Hayling 
Island near Portsmouth - her new home.

The motorways are empty at the moment (relatively speaking!) so the trip will 
be easy. Fueled up so no need to stop at all over the 2 hour drive, and only 
seeing 2 people at the marina, the broker and a local skipper, and we'll all be 
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OT: Stay Home, Stay Safe, Stop the Spread

[Stanley Halpin]

I’ve been pretty cautious about going out, about being in contact with others. 
But today the governor of our state issued a strong Stay At Home order 
effective through April 13. Still ok to go out for food and meds but otherwise 
Stay Home.

I’ve decided there is nothing else I can do, and so will try to ignore what is 
happening elsewhere and start putting together some Blurb books, catching up on 
travels I have done over the last 7 years.

I do have a new camera arriving from Adorama tomorrow, a Ricoh WG-70, but I am 
thinking I will not be anyplace to fully take advantage of its features…

stan
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