RE: OT: aquariums
I used to shoot Ektachrome many years ago. Mostly 400, but also a few rolls of 1600. Wasn't to grainy, but contrast and colours where poor as I remember it, unless the exposure was 110% correct. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Gautam Sarup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28. februar 2006 08:24 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
Re: OT: aquariums
Thanks, Tim. Based on what I've read here I'm going to stick with 400 film and push as little as possible. There's no way I'd trust I could nail exposures that accurately inside a dark place and standing (presumably) on a conveyor belt.) Cheers, Gautam On 3/6/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to shoot Ektachrome many years ago. Mostly 400, but also a few rolls of 1600. Wasn't to grainy, but contrast and colours where poor as I remember it, unless the exposure was 110% correct. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Gautam Sarup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28. februar 2006 08:24 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
Re: OT: aquariums
For what it's worth, I shot at the Newport Aquarium near Cincinnati Ohio one day. The aisles were deliberately kept quite dark, no lighter than the average movie theatre here in the USA. The tanks therefore looked bright, but they weren't. I had either 400 or 800 speed film, can't remember which, but I _think_ it was 800. I took a few lenses with me, but ended up using a 50mm f1.4 wide open, simply because it was the fastest lens I had. Many shots were in the 15th/30th second range, not too bad since I had a monopod with me. I didn't think the focal length was too hampering; in fact a few times I wanted wider. Definately take your fastest lens with you. -Lon Gautam Sarup wrote: Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
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Hi Lon, Thanks. I'm now planning to take 3 lenses: 28/2.8, 50/1.4 and an 80-320 zoom. Will meter once in there and try to shoot two rolls in there at different ASAs and see what happens. Cheers, Gautam On 3/1/06, Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, I shot at the Newport Aquarium near Cincinnati Ohio one day. The aisles were deliberately kept quite dark, no lighter than the average movie theatre here in the USA. The tanks therefore looked bright, but they weren't. I had either 400 or 800 speed film, can't remember which, but I _think_ it was 800. I took a few lenses with me, but ended up using a 50mm f1.4 wide open, simply because it was the fastest lens I had. Many shots were in the 15th/30th second range, not too bad since I had a monopod with me. I didn't think the focal length was too hampering; in fact a few times I wanted wider. Definately take your fastest lens with you. -Lon Gautam Sarup wrote: Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
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From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) There's really no good answer to these questions. As you anticipated, it all depends on the subject you are attempting to capture at the moment and you won't know the actual lighting conditons until you're there shooting. I would certainly bring the 50/1.4 and determine what aperture allows it to be hand-holdable. It's all very hit miss really. The 50/1.4 should not be too short, especially if you are isolating a subject(s) in the same plane (distance from the camera). I'd bring both lenses and see what works for you. 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? I haven't tried it. I have pushed Provia 100F two stops and have had very good results. Provia 400F being in the same family should push well also. If you find you can shoot with the camera set at 1600 I wouldn't push any further than you find the need to. Tom C. Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
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From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/27 Mon AM 03:51:02 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums mike wilson wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more. Do they even make that anymore? I though that K64 was the only one left. There is E200 though. Super fresh stock. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=products_id=6176 You're living in the wrong country. 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: OT: aquariums
From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/27 Mon AM 07:51:39 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam You would probably need to filter any slide film if the lighting did not represent daylight. My thought is that the aquarium owners would be using artificial light that, as near as possible, was the same as daylight for the benefit of the organisms. m On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: aquariums
Daylight slide film under cool white flourescents give a greenish image. You need to use an FLD filter, but that will cut your effective film speed some. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Gautam Sarup wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
Re: OT: aquariums
Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
Re: OT: aquariums
Tom, I'm leaning more and more towards taking the Provia and pushing it as you suggest. I have a few more questions by now: 1. What lenses? I don't have too many choices. The fastest Pentax lens I have is a 50/1.4. Is that likely to be too short? On the tele. side I have an 80-320 but that's not a fast lens (f4.5-5.6.) 2. Has anyone tried Ektachrome 1600? Cheers, Gautam On 2/27/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another suggestion... I've shot 800 speed film at aquariums and even that was marginal because of the dim lighting. Even if you are able to handhold it, the subjects are moving as well. That's why I suggested something that can be pushed significantly Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:51:39 -0800 Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
OT: aquariums
I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam
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I suppose it depends on what you're photographing. The last time I photographed there I used ISO 100 film, and got good results, but I didn't photograph the kelp forest or the jellyfish exhibit, or the tanks in the darker areas. For those you may need a faster film depending on the speed of your lenses. For slides I like various Ektachromes, Provia, Sensia ... but I'm not a big slide shooter. When are you going? I'm planning a trip down that way soon, but the date's open. Maybe we can meet, grab some lunch or a cup of coffee, or just say hello. Shel [Original Message] From: Gautam Sarup I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam
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I'd go with Provia 400F. It can be pushed up to 3.5 stops. Pushing 2 stops would get you ISO 1600, 3 stops to 3200. Hopefully you'll be using a fairly fast lens as well. http://www.vividlight.com/articles/612.htm Tom C. From: Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: aquariums Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 03:02:09 -0800 I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam
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Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
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mike wilson wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more. Do they even make that anymore? I though that K64 was the only one left. There is E200 though. -Adam
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Thanks for the suggestions. Think I get a roll of Provia and K200 and shoot both at the aquarium in San Francisco. Another question, since K200 is a daylight film would be behave OK in the (presumably) flourescent lighting in a fish tank? I made the mistake of shooting K64 under artificial lighting once and everything came out green. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more.
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Thanks Adam. K200 is still on the market. I am getting tempted to try some E6 films though. Cheers, Gautam On 2/26/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson wrote: Gautam Sarup wrote: I'm planning a trip to the Monterey aquarium and would like advice on what slide film to use. The only colour film I use regularly is K64 and that's likely to be too slow. Suggestions will be appreciated. Cheers, Gautam K200 - you can push it to 500, maybe more. Do they even make that anymore? I though that K64 was the only one left. There is E200 though. -Adam
