Re: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-17 Thread Lon Williamson

My comments:  Slik 300DX vs Bogen 3001

I've got the Slik, Wifey has the Bogen.  I've messed with
both extensively.

The Bogen 3001 is easier to set up, due to quicker levers on
leg spread and leg extension, but it doesn't get as close to the
ground.  The Slik 300 lays "almost" flat on the ground.  I disagree
with Steve Smith, who says the Slik is easier to adjust than the
Bogen.  You have to crank the leg extension thumb screws more on
the Slik to tighten or lossen, and there's NO way that the
"lift and lock" leg angle adjustment on the Slik is as quick as
the Bogen.

My Slik panhead is sturdy enough, but very difficult to adjust
on macro shots.  It "jumps" too much, even when I relubed it with
some purty good axle grease (grin).

The Slik quick release is well thought out, and a spare
cost me less than 15 bucks at a typical camera store.  The Slik has
an optional short center post that is also cheap but well worth it.
When I say "sturdy enough" I mean for a Sigma APO 70-300, my bulkiest
lens.  I have NO idea how sturdy it is with some honker, fast, long
lens.

Should you be a masochist who likes to reverse the center column,
the Slick is easier than the 3001, because the rubber cap on the
3001 is cumbersome to remove and replace.

However, according to the Bogen site, a slew of new 3001-like models
are about to be released.  They spread out farther, and one model
lets you put the center column on horizontally.  Had I compared one
of these (and I haven't seen them yet) to the Slik, I might have
purchased
one of them.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jerry Houston: "I have a lightweight and sturdy tripod that I’ve come to
 like a lot: The Slik 300DX. Smooth movements, good stability, and a
 reasonable price (under $100). I even use it without fear with my Pentax
 6x7. It weights five pounds, complete with quick-release pan/tilt head, and
 stands a a little taller than the Bogen 3001. At 6 feet, I barely need to
 bend over to use it. It is beautifully built, works very smoothly, and
 works well with my 35mmcameras and my 6x7. The head is removable, with
 standard threads. I’ve been very pleased with the head it came with,
 though. The quick-release feature is particularly well designed, as are the
 legs. They can be locked at three different angles, and the center column
 reversed, to allow photography at just inches from the ground.
 
 Steve Smith: "I’ve been using the 300DX for several months now and am very
 satisfied. I compared it to similarly sized Gitzo and Bogen (3001) tripods
 and it was the hands-down winner regarding ease of setup (so you’ll use
 it). The release lever allowing the legs to open at a wider angle is much
 easier to operate on the Slik than on either Gitzo or Bogen. And the
 supplied pan-and-tilt head (which I prefer over ballheads, especially for
 macro work) and quick release plates I find to be excellent, and much more
 compact than a Bogen 3047. I have even stuck a Pentax 67 on it with good
 results. Overall, it’s pretty close in size and weight to a Bogen 3001 with
 a 3047 ballhead, but much cheaper (especially considering its black
 finish)."
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Re: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-17 Thread Bill D. Casselberry


unless backpacking is a big part of your photographic phrolics,
consider also the Bogen 3046 (Willy may know the Manfrotto #)
tripod. It isn't all that more expensive than the lesser Bogens
at ~US$150 from BH  It is a very solid unit and not all that heavy.
It doesn't compact in length when collapsed as much as the smaller
ones due to a two-section leg as opposed the the more common 
three-section legs. 

It has a geared 1.5inch center column in a bushinged tube to
maximize stability when extended, the 2-section legs are a "Y"
design where the upper half is a spread pair of 5/8ths aluminum
tubes and the lower is a 1 inch tube that fits between. It is
secured to the casting joint by a solid 2 inch fitted "slug"
which is tightened by a 3/8th threaded knob. The casting at the 
leg joint is secured to the casting around the column sleeve by
a pair of aluminum struts. Takes the various Bogen "feet" as well.

I need to get a photo of mine some day!:^) 


Bill

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OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
Just what we need--a fourth (fifth) Paul on the list to further confuse us!

Non-serious photographers have zero tripods. Serious photographers quickly
end up with two or more. You can cross your fingers and start out with one
that meets 80 percent of your studio wish list and 80 percent of your
travel wishlist, but after a few frustrating sessions you'll wish you had
bought one for each purpose.

Having said that, should you decide to buy one do-it-all tripod and hope
for the best, check out Slik's Pro 700 DX for about $155 to $175. It's the
top model in a stable of three; its siblings are the 300 DX (about $90 from
BH) and the 500 DX ($130 BH); the 500 DX is sold by BH exclusively. The
DXs come with 1/4-inch threads but you can buy an adapter to use 3/8-inch
heads.

Rather then rattle off the many features and advantages the DX members
offer, I will share some comments that two users have posted about the 300
DX:

Jerry Houston: "I have a lightweight and sturdy tripod that I’ve come to
like a lot: The Slik 300DX. Smooth movements, good stability, and a
reasonable price (under $100). I even use it without fear with my Pentax
6x7. It weights five pounds, complete with quick-release pan/tilt head, and
stands a a little taller than the Bogen 3001. At 6 feet, I barely need to
bend over to use it. It is beautifully built, works very smoothly, and
works well with my 35mmcameras and my 6x7. The head is removable, with
standard threads. I’ve been very pleased with the head it came with,
though. The quick-release feature is particularly well designed, as are the
legs. They can be locked at three different angles, and the center column
reversed, to allow photography at just inches from the ground.

Steve Smith: "I’ve been using the 300DX for several months now and am very
satisfied. I compared it to similarly sized Gitzo and Bogen (3001) tripods
and it was the hands-down winner regarding ease of setup (so you’ll use
it). The release lever allowing the legs to open at a wider angle is much
easier to operate on the Slik than on either Gitzo or Bogen. And the
supplied pan-and-tilt head (which I prefer over ballheads, especially for
macro work) and quick release plates I find to be excellent, and much more
compact than a Bogen 3047. I have even stuck a Pentax 67 on it with good
results. Overall, it’s pretty close in size and weight to a Bogen 3001 with
a 3047 ballhead, but much cheaper (especially considering its black
finish)."


 "paul bauer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...n ow it is time for tripods. what we =
are looking for is tripod with all the bells and whistles, that wont =
break the bank. we dont need anything exotic like carbon fiber or =
something that will go 7 feet high. the most it will have to hold is the =
zx-m, the aa battery fg grip, an af-201sa flash, and the smc a =
80mm-200mm lens.
thank you,
paul


Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

Indeed, my local independent dealer is so impressed with the Manfrotto 390
Junior that he will no longer order alternative low-end models from Bogen
or, I believe, other brands. He owns lots of fancy equipment, including
medium-format, but told me, "If I were starting out today, this is the
tripod I would buy." To me, one of its most attractive features is its
off-the-shelf ability for its center post to be quickly reconfigured as a
horizontal macro arm.


Tanya wrote:

I just purchased the Manfrotto 390 Junior Tripod (I think the model number
is different in the US).  ... I am s happy that I chose this one.  It
is incredibly easy to use and has the Manfrotto level of construction while
being inexpensive too.  I have purchased two more quick release plates for
my other cameras at au $25 each, and it is all that I need.

Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

Oops. Could I be thinking of Bogen/Manfrotto's latest Convertible? I just
reread the price Tanya paid, and it seems rather low for the model I saw.

Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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RE: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Ramesh Kumar_C
Hi 
Recently I got Slik 700 DX.
I paid 139USD for tripod and 16USD for Bag at www.adorama.com

Before deciding to buy at www.adorama.com I did bit of price searching and
here are the results.
I found least quote at www.cambridgeworld.com and www.cameraannex.com 
but they said its out of stock. These quotes for better than
www.adorama.com.

This tripod feels good and stable. I can not comment much since its my first
"GOOD" tripod;
Earlier I was using 20-30 USD tripods.

Bye
Ramesh

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Subject: OT newbie tripod question


Just what we need--a fourth (fifth) Paul on the list to further confuse us!

Non-serious photographers have zero tripods. Serious photographers quickly
end up with two or more. You can cross your fingers and start out with one
that meets 80 percent of your studio wish list and 80 percent of your
travel wishlist, but after a few frustrating sessions you'll wish you had
bought one for each purpose.

Having said that, should you decide to buy one do-it-all tripod and hope
for the best, check out Slik's Pro 700 DX for about $155 to $175. It's the
top model in a stable of three; its siblings are the 300 DX (about $90 from
BH) and the 500 DX ($130 BH); the 500 DX is sold by BH exclusively. The
DXs come with 1/4-inch threads but you can buy an adapter to use 3/8-inch
heads.

Rather then rattle off the many features and advantages the DX members
offer, I will share some comments that two users have posted about the 300
DX:

Jerry Houston: "I have a lightweight and sturdy tripod that I’ve come to
like a lot: The Slik 300DX. Smooth movements, good stability, and a
reasonable price (under $100). I even use it without fear with my Pentax
6x7. It weights five pounds, complete with quick-release pan/tilt head, and
stands a a little taller than the Bogen 3001. At 6 feet, I barely need to
bend over to use it. It is beautifully built, works very smoothly, and
works well with my 35mmcameras and my 6x7. The head is removable, with
standard threads. I’ve been very pleased with the head it came with,
though. The quick-release feature is particularly well designed, as are the
legs. They can be locked at three different angles, and the center column
reversed, to allow photography at just inches from the ground.

Steve Smith: "I’ve been using the 300DX for several months now and am very
satisfied. I compared it to similarly sized Gitzo and Bogen (3001) tripods
and it was the hands-down winner regarding ease of setup (so you’ll use
it). The release lever allowing the legs to open at a wider angle is much
easier to operate on the Slik than on either Gitzo or Bogen. And the
supplied pan-and-tilt head (which I prefer over ballheads, especially for
macro work) and quick release plates I find to be excellent, and much more
compact than a Bogen 3047. I have even stuck a Pentax 67 on it with good
results. Overall, it’s pretty close in size and weight to a Bogen 3001 with
a 3047 ballhead, but much cheaper (especially considering its black
finish)."


 "paul bauer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...n ow it is time for tripods. what we =
are looking for is tripod with all the bells and whistles, that wont =
break the bank. we dont need anything exotic like carbon fiber or =
something that will go 7 feet high. the most it will have to hold is the =
zx-m, the aa battery fg grip, an af-201sa flash, and the smc a =
80mm-200mm lens.
thank you,
paul


Paul Franklin Stregevsky

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Subject: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Haha! I responded to that last post before I read this:

"Oops. Could I be thinking of Bogen/Manfrotto's latest Convertible? I just
reread the price Tanya paid, and it seems rather low for the model I saw."

I think you are probably right there Paul as I wasn't aware that it could do
this, would be cool if it could though

Tanya.


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Subject: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer

Paul Stregevsky wrote:

"To me, one of its most attractive features is its
off-the-shelf ability for its center post to be quickly reconfigured as a
horizontal macro arm."

Paul, I didn't know it could do this, any idea how to go about it?

Tanya.


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Re: Subject: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Rob Studdert

On 17 Apr 2001, at 9:03, Tanya  Russell Mayer wrote:

 Haha! I responded to that last post before I read this:
 
 "Oops. Could I be thinking of Bogen/Manfrotto's latest Convertible? I just
 reread the price Tanya paid, and it seems rather low for the model I saw."
 
 I think you are probably right there Paul as I wasn't aware that it could do
 this, would be cool if it could though

Hi Tanya,

The 055Pro, 455, 440, 441 are the only tripods which allow the centre are to 
be positioned horizontally like a boon to my knowledge. The 390 allows the 
centre column to be reversed. I swear by the 055 and it's variants, it offers a 
superb balance of features and is my all time favourite tripod (I own 6 
tripods/mono-pod from the Manfrotto range).

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Fax +61-2-9554-9259
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RE: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread William Wiseman

I have a Slik 700DX that I have been using for about a year. Great tripod! I 
paid about $150 at a local shop (on sale). It was more stable than the other 
under $250 tripods I tested in the store. I have added a short center post 
and the Slik Pro Ballhead (uses the same round QR) to make for a really nice 
setup for under $250.

JeffW.


Hi
Recently I got Slik 700 DX.
I paid 139USD for tripod and 16USD for Bag at www.adorama.com

Before deciding to buy at www.adorama.com I did bit of price searching and
here are the results.
I found least quote at www.cambridgeworld.com and www.cameraannex.com
but they said its out of stock. These quotes for better than
www.adorama.com.

This tripod feels good and stable. I can not comment much since its my first
"GOOD" tripod;
Earlier I was using 20-30 USD tripods.

Bye
Ramesh
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Re: OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-16 Thread Chris Brogden

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Bob wrote:

 Also, I thought Manfrotto and Bogen were the same company.

They are.

chris


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OT newbie tripod question

2001-04-15 Thread paul bauer



hi,
my girlfriend and i just got into photography. we 
bought a pair of zx-m's and a small beseler dark room kit. we have got our 
flashes, battery grips, and assorted lenses, now it is time for tripods. what we 
are looking for is tripod with all the bells and whistles, that wont break the 
bank. we dont need anything exotic like carbon fiber or something that will go 7 
feet high. the most it will have to hold is the zx-m, the aa battery fg 
grip,an af-201sa flash, and the smc a 80mm-200mm lens. any suggestions 
would be greatly appreciated.

thank you,
paul