Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Aaarrrgggh! Techo-weenie-babble!! But, seriously, Nick, are you saying that small-case wow and paw at the end of a subject line won't work for you and others in your situation? If so, (and this isn't directed to you, but others who have a concern in this matter) what exactly should we do about this? I want to be a Good List Member, I want to cause the least amount of inconvenience for the most amount of people (kind of a mantra of my life, which is likely why I'm where I am today), but I'm getting contradictory requests now. Non sequitor: Speaking of mantras, my sister gave me a t-shirt for Christmas, which says: "I'm kind of like a superhero, with no powers or motivation". Kind of sums up my life. My sister knows me all too well. Okay, back to the topic at hand. I think we need a decision from the judges here. If I don't hear anything, I believe I'll just put paw and wow in small case letters at the end, as that seems to bother the least number. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:34:44 - Not on a PDA screen it isn't as the end is truncated. I read all my PDML messages on an Ipaq and find the PREfix useful a I can order by subject and deal with the high volume of traffic that way. The PDA email client doesn't have sophisticated parsing and filtering options like a desktop client. Nick -Original Message- From: "Bob W"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Example: This is a legible subject line (paw) _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Not on a PDA screen it isn't as the end is truncated. I read all my PDML messages on an Ipaq and find the PREfix useful a I can order by subject and deal with the high volume of traffic that way. The PDA email client doesn't have sophisticated parsing and filtering options like a desktop client. Nick -Original Message- From: "Bob W"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Example: This is a legible subject line (paw)
Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Hi, Saturday, March 13, 2004, 9:50:36 PM, Shel wrote: > Interesting ... never though about that. Mabe on one's "doing it" then and some > mail programs just make their own decisions for us. ;-)) if people would put it at the end of the subject, in lower case, then it wouldn't happen. It would still be visible to filters, it would make the line readable for humans, and it wouldn't piss me off so much that I never open any of the paw or wow emails. Example: This is a legible subject line (paw) -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Interesting ... never though about that. Mabe on one's "doing it" then and some mail programs just make their own decisions for us. ;-)) Kevin Thornsberry wrote: > Shel, I noticed this on a recent post of mine. > > When I hit "reply" the WOW: at the beginning disappeared. I believe it is > because the subject became "WOW:" Outlook stripped it out for me, I guess, with > the same algorithm that keeps subject lines from becoming something like > > "RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: RE: FW: RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject" > > I wonder if putting "WOW -" instead wold work better. I'll send a test to make > sure. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:27 PM > To: PDML > Subject: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject > > > I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the > subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW > and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and > to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please > stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
Shel, I noticed this on a recent post of mine. When I hit "reply" the WOW: at the beginning disappeared. I believe it is because the subject became "WOW:" Outlook stripped it out for me, I guess, with the same algorithm that keeps subject lines from becoming something like "RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: FW: RE: RE: FW: RE: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject" I wonder if putting "WOW -" instead wold work better. I'll send a test to make sure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:27 PM To: PDML Subject: Stripping PAW and WOW from subject I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
Stripping PAW and WOW from subject
I've noticed that a number of messages have the PAW or WOW stripped from the subject line when comments are made about the photos. The idea of putting PAW and WOW into the subject line was to allow people to identify the messages and to perhaps filter them in their mail system. Would whoever is doing this please stop and leave the subject line as it was originally. Thanks!
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Hi! BL> Q. What is PAW and/or WOW I am seeing every now and then in the BL> message subject? BL> A. Picture A Week and Workshop A Week respectively. Usually it is a BL> way PDMLers take a pause from their normal PDML talk... These two BL> acronyms are quite often used in other photography related web BL> communities. BL> Then I think no damage would be done. Perhaps even compiling a little BL> list of shortcuts and their meanings would be nice... BL> But one may ask only so much ... Graywolf brought to my attention that above looks very much like a demand or strong request or something of this sort. I apologize if so is the case. In fact, I was merely suggesting. Furthermore, naturally if the owner(s) of the list/site would decide to grant me my wish, I am ready and willing to assist in whatever way necessary to make it happen. I mean of course the web-related part of "whatever". Notice the in my previous message. I definitely meant no harm. Again, my apologies. Boris
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Hi! g> Ok,Lasse, you and Shel had great ideas. Now you have to pay the price. g> Write up a WOW FAQ. I will provide web space and when someone asks you can just g> point them to the FAQ. g> Same for Shel, write a PAW FAQ and I will put that up also. g> That will save everybody from answering the same questions over and over. I think that PAW and WOW deserve to appear in PDML FAQ on PDML site (www.pdml.net) Boris
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And where did you have this Alpah cluster... -Original Message- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 11, 2004 1:09 PM To: pentax list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PAW and WOW On 11/3/04, TOM R disgorged: >Well, Mac's have become more pc like over the years and Windows has >become more >Mac like. I still want a DEC Alpha Cluster though. Last time I had an Alpha Cluster, the swelling took weeks to go down and the ointment stank the place out... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: PAW and WOW
Hi ... I believe it means "Workshop of the Week." It's a setup where you post your pics and then others will adjust them in PS or other editing software. The idea is that there may be some specific area that a photog may have a problem with, such as contrast or color control, or s/he may just want to see some other interpretations of the work. HTH ... shel Steve Desjardins wrote: > I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? You saw Greywolf's picture of me and you still have to ask??? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Aha! That's why no one answered me. No one knows. . . I had actually figured out the basic idea but I'm glad to see the original post. It's a really good idea, BTW. In all honesty, I would like to learn more about PS at this point in my "photo career" than I would basic shooting techniques. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok,Lasse, you and Shel had great ideas. Now you have to pay the price. Write up a WOW FAQ. I will provide web space and when someone asks you can just point them to the FAQ. Same for Shel, write a PAW FAQ and I will put that up also. That will save everybody from answering the same questions over and over. -- Lasse Karlsson wrote: From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? Steven Desjardins Steve, I just reiterate the parts of a few of messages where WOW came about. From there it just caught on to become a small PDML digital organism of it's own... Everyone is welcome to be part of it. Lasse From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Dave's pictures (Was: PAW: fresh out of scanner) Anyway, I had this idea (which actually originates from a feeling similar to your some time back, when I could get my pictures look like I wanted them to look): You pick one of your pictures (one that you typically had difficulties in gettng right), fresh out of the scanner - send it in a reasonable size to a number of volunteers on the list (I'll be one of them) who will do their finishing and adjustments according to their taste (no competition). The pictures will be put up somewhere for all to see and ponder upon, and you'll be able to see if any of them will be to your liking and the guys who did the job can tell you and all of us what and how they did to it. This way you, and anybody, might get some valuable hints on basic digital photofinishing. What do you think? Lasse From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: WOW (Was: Dave's pictures) Great. We'll start off this project with one Dave's pictures, when he's got one ready for us. I'd like to extend this idea further and to the list introduce Workshop of the Week, or WOW for short for the subject line as above. (If anyone got a better suggestion for a subject line ID, speak up.) Anyone on the list can offer a picture of his/hers and ask for help or just for a second way of finishing it. Submitted "interpretations" by volunteer photofinishers will be put up on the web. The supplier of the photo, or anybody, can comment and ask about the hows and whats that was done to the picture and probably learn a bit here and there as we proceed. And voilá - eventually the PDML will have gained reputation as the expert digital photofinishers on line! :-) We'll all be experts! Apart from my kidding, do you think it's a good idea? Anyone can join or benefit from it in some way. For this first round on Dave's picture we've so far got Larry from Prescott Butch Black Paul Stenquist and me as volunteers. But there is room for more. My idea is NOT to make his a competition of who's going to do "the best" version of any picture, but rather to use some basic techniques that will be available for anyone's software, not only for the latest exclusive Photoshop tricks and such. Each participant will keep track of what he/she is doing in order to be able to report it if asked about it. (You could make notes, do screen shots of tools (levels etc) you apply, or maybe even record the steps as actions... Comments welcome.) What d'ya all think? Shall we give it a try as an ongoing project? Lasse And also in another message: My idea was also that, as someone asks for "a WOW" on a photo, anyone can step in each time and have a go. No one has to commit themselves to continuos work. If you feel like taking on a particular photo, you do it. If not, you just leave it. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: PAW and WOW
From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? Steven Desjardins Steve, I just reiterate the parts of a few of messages where WOW came about. >From there it just caught on to become a small PDML digital organism of it's own... Everyone is welcome to be part of it. Lasse From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Dave's pictures (Was: PAW: fresh out of scanner) Anyway, I had this idea (which actually originates from a feeling similar to your some time back, when I could get my pictures look like I wanted them to look): You pick one of your pictures (one that you typically had difficulties in gettng right), fresh out of the scanner - send it in a reasonable size to a number of volunteers on the list (I'll be one of them) who will do their finishing and adjustments according to their taste (no competition). The pictures will be put up somewhere for all to see and ponder upon, and you'll be able to see if any of them will be to your liking and the guys who did the job can tell you and all of us what and how they did to it. This way you, and anybody, might get some valuable hints on basic digital photofinishing. What do you think? Lasse From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: WOW (Was: Dave's pictures) Great. We'll start off this project with one Dave's pictures, when he's got one ready for us. I'd like to extend this idea further and to the list introduce Workshop of the Week, or WOW for short for the subject line as above. (If anyone got a better suggestion for a subject line ID, speak up.) Anyone on the list can offer a picture of his/hers and ask for help or just for a second way of finishing it. Submitted "interpretations" by volunteer photofinishers will be put up on the web. The supplier of the photo, or anybody, can comment and ask about the hows and whats that was done to the picture and probably learn a bit here and there as we proceed. And voilá - eventually the PDML will have gained reputation as the expert digital photofinishers on line! :-) We'll all be experts! Apart from my kidding, do you think it's a good idea? Anyone can join or benefit from it in some way. For this first round on Dave's picture we've so far got Larry from Prescott Butch Black Paul Stenquist and me as volunteers. But there is room for more. My idea is NOT to make his a competition of who's going to do "the best" version of any picture, but rather to use some basic techniques that will be available for anyone's software, not only for the latest exclusive Photoshop tricks and such. Each participant will keep track of what he/she is doing in order to be able to report it if asked about it. (You could make notes, do screen shots of tools (levels etc) you apply, or maybe even record the steps as actions... Comments welcome.) What d'ya all think? Shall we give it a try as an ongoing project? Lasse And also in another message: My idea was also that, as someone asks for "a WOW" on a photo, anyone can step in each time and have a go. No one has to commit themselves to continuos work. If you feel like taking on a particular photo, you do it. If not, you just leave it.
Re: PAW and WOW
Something like Work Over a Week. The idea is you send some folks who have volunteered a photo you are not satisfied with and they try to fix it in PhotoShop or what ever. They send the results back, and the original guy posts the photos all together along with what they did to it. Lasse's idea, and seems like a way to learn some new techniques. -- Christian wrote: I wish someone would answer you because I have no idea what it means either!!! Christian - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: Re: PAW and WOW I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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--- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish someone would answer you because I have no > idea what it means > either!!! > > > > I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW > stand for? > > Please Guys 'n Gals.. seems you have contracted acronimitis since I was here a few years ago, could we have a newbies guide to PDMLL.. Gosh it's cold here for mid MarchTom ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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I wish someone would answer you because I have no idea what it means either!!! Christian - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: Re: PAW and WOW > I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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I'll try again with this thread. What does WOW stand for? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, Mac's have become more pc like over the years and Windows has become more Mac like. I still want a DEC Alpha Cluster though. -- Rob Studdert wrote: On 10 Mar 2004 at 23:40, Cotty wrote: Whats wrong with a PC as long as you don't run Windows on it? Frits Wüthrich LOL. Yes I guess, if the Mac O/S was ever ported to the PC hardware platform Apple would be screwed. :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Mark Roberts wrote: Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Whats wrong with a PC as long as you don't run Windows on it? I just look terrible wearing one of those propeller beanies ;-) Can you see this guy in a propeller beanie? http://graywolfphoto.com/paw.html I can. Actually, I think Cesar had just offered to reskin Marks new MZ-S, or something. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Bot PAW and WOW are great ideas. Thanks to Shel for PAW, and to Lasse for WOW. Cheers, Jostein -- Photos at: http://www.oksne.net --
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On 10 Mar 2004 at 23:40, Cotty wrote: > >Whats wrong with a PC as long as you don't run Windows on it? > > >Frits Wüthrich > > LOL. Yes I guess, if the Mac O/S was ever ported to the PC hardware platform Apple would be screwed. :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Whats wrong with a PC as long as you don't run Windows on it? I just look terrible wearing one of those propeller beanies ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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>> On 10 Mar 2004 at 17:36, Lon Williamson wrote: >> >> > It amazes me that Pentax shooters can be Techno folks. >> >> LOL, next you'll say you're surprised we don't all use Mac's >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Rob Studdert >Whats wrong with a PC as long as you don't run Windows on it? >Frits Wüthrich LOL. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Hi Lon ... I don't understand your comment about smackin' me with a backhoe. Is that anything like gittin' whupped upside the haid with a 2x4 that's been soakin' in creosote for dang near a month? If so, thet sukka's sure gonna hurt some Anyway, I'm glad you like the PAW and the WOW (which I had nothing to do with, BTW) I've taken to filtering the PAW and the WOW to their own separate folders, the results of which are like having three lists instead of one, and makes reading the list a very easy and pleasurable past time. Great to have your comments here ... the more support for the PAW and the WOW the better balanced the list will be overall. And please don't get me wrong ... the technical stuff is good and it's important, yet it's nice to have more diversity on the PDML. shel Lon Williamson wrote: > > I do like these new directions the group is taking. > Whether you like Shel or not (and, BTW, welcome back, > Shel), WOW and PAW are a wonderful change from the > Technoweenie stuff that goes on in here. > > It amazes me that Pentax shooters can be Techno folks. > > I don't comment on a lot of these New Features because > Some Folks (no names mentioned) submit three or four > pictures a week for PAW (A picture a week). Nonetheless, > I find the change refreshing. Shel is Hell on Wheels with > Ideas. If I were 60 or thereabouts, and I'm close, I'd > smack him with a backhoe. grin.
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Whats wrong with a PC as long as you don't run Windows on it? On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 00:31, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 10 Mar 2004 at 17:36, Lon Williamson wrote: > > > It amazes me that Pentax shooters can be Techno folks. > > LOL, next you'll say you're surprised we don't all use Mac's > > Cheers, > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
