Re: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II
I like this one better. The first one, the dew really looked over the top to me - not much like dew. This one seems more natural. I'm not sure if the square crop matters much, but overall, this is very nice. -- Bruce Monday, April 3, 2006, 5:46:39 PM, you wrote: KW Check out KW http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html KW Slightly different composition, but same bug. KW Does Square make a difference? KW Comments solicited KW Good/Bad/Indifferent KW What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? KW Thanks in advance KW Kenneth Waller
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Bruce Dayton wrote: I like this one better. The first one, the dew really looked over the top to me - not much like dew. This one seems more natural. I'm not sure if the square crop matters much, but overall, this is very nice. There's something not quite right about this picture (and the previous one). Was the dragon-fly dead? That so much dew should accumulate on a flying insect seems strange. Maybe it was very cold -- a degree or two above zero perhaps? Don -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616
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From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/04 Tue AM 06:31:54 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II Bruce Dayton wrote: I like this one better. The first one, the dew really looked over the top to me - not much like dew. This one seems more natural. I'm not sure if the square crop matters much, but overall, this is very nice. There's something not quite right about this picture (and the previous one). Was the dragon-fly dead? That so much dew should accumulate on a flying insect seems strange. Maybe it was very cold -- a degree or two above zero perhaps? It's quite common at the right time of day. They will remain stationary until warmed enough by the sun. On cool days, they will only fly when the sun is shining on them. When you're a predator _and_ cold blooded, energy management becomes a priority. Dragonflies must be doing something right - they make dinosaurs look like mewling infants. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II
I like this format better as the uninteresting bottom part of the previous composition disappeared. With more attention on the strange form of the flower in the background this picture is even more fascinating. Henk -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April, 2006 2:47 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Slightly different composition, but same bug. Does Square make a difference? Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
Re: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II
I prefer the first one. Much more striking. Bob
Re: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II
On 4/3/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Square makes a difference. It makes it square. snip Mark!! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On 4/4/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer the first one. Much more striking. I agree with Mr. Shell. -frank, who's been way too busy at work these past to days to actually type a reasoned critique (like I ever...), so I'm just scrolling down to something that I agree with and, well, agreeing. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Hi! Whatever that is to the bug's right is quite distracting. I preferred the original composition. I also prefer the original version. Boris
PESO - A bug in the field - Take II
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Nice shot. I think I prefer this crop. Paul On Apr 3, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Slightly different composition, but same bug. Does Square make a difference? Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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Kenneth, Whatever that is to the bug's right is quite distracting. I preferred the original composition. Rick --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Slightly different composition, but same bug. Does Square make a difference? Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II
Ken, I like the crop and effective enlargement of the dew drops. Regards, Bob S. On 4/3/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Slightly different composition, but same bug. Does Square make a difference? Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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Square makes a difference. It makes it square. It is kind of hard to compare not having access to the first. From memory I prefer the background of the first, less distractions. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4. april 2006 02:47 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - A bug in the field - Take II Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Slightly different composition, but same bug. Does Square make a difference? Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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I do like the alignment better and it's a dazzling image. The stuff protruding from it's head has me somewhat confused as to what is bug and what is plant, however. Not quite as clean an image, but very nice. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Slightly different composition, but same bug. Does Square make a difference? Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO - A bug in the field
Hi Ken, I think it's a good shot. They often let the wings fall towards the ventral side so that it's difficult to get the whole wing into focus at the same time. IMO, it looks like a good trade-off between DOF and blurred background. Still, I do think the background is a bit busy. Not in texture, of course, but in colour intensity. In the shooting situation, I think I would have tried to avoid a bright background, but that's something you know just as well as I do...:-) Some post-processing of the shot you have could reduce the effect of the colour (eg. using Selective Colour in Photoshop, to take some juice out of the green). Also, I think maybe the colours on abdomen would be more justified if contrast was reduced a little bit. Still, all in my subjective opinion, of course. Thanks for posting. Jostein Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack, William R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C., David B. FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed in its production. Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night getting there early. No healing brush was used on this image. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent Gorgeous! Bob
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On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack, William R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C., David B. Which Bob S is which? ;-) FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed in its production. Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night getting there early. No healing brush was used on this image. Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. But I never saw one as striking as the one you found and photographed so well. That photo would sell as a stock image, for sure. Bob
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Bob - I mean Bob S, vbg Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. I had quite a bit of time in a small field of sleeping Darners. As the sun rose they gradually woke up and became moving targets - not good. I chose this one because it was the most accessible without disturbing others had the background I was seeking. IIRC I was shooting low into the sun, which accounts for the added sparkle. BTW this was one of the last shots of this guy before he woke. This was my second attempt to capture these guys, never had the excellent conditions like this before. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack, William R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C., David B. Which Bob S is which? ;-) FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed in its production. Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night getting there early. No healing brush was used on this image. Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. But I never saw one as striking as the one you found and photographed so well. That photo would sell as a stock image, for sure. Bob
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Thanks for the clarification Ken. I looked at that image 4 times before commenting. It is compelling in many ways. It took me a while to see it as dew on the dragonfly. The dew makes it unique, but adds some visual distraction. I wish the dew was a bit more 'fine grained' (smaller drops?). But this is truely a rare shot - so I can't ask for more. Congrats Ken, your stuff makes me envious. Regards, Bob S. On 4/1/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob - I mean Bob S, vbg Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. I had quite a bit of time in a small field of sleeping Darners. As the sun rose they gradually woke up and became moving targets - not good. I chose this one because it was the most accessible without disturbing others had the background I was seeking. IIRC I was shooting low into the sun, which accounts for the added sparkle. BTW this was one of the last shots of this guy before he woke. This was my second attempt to capture these guys, never had the excellent conditions like this before. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack, William R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C., David B. Which Bob S is which? ;-) FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed in its production. Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night getting there early. No healing brush was used on this image. Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. But I never saw one as striking as the one you found and photographed so well. That photo would sell as a stock image, for sure. Bob
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I really enjoyed this shot. I wanted to study it further before commenting, but someone deleted the URL:-(. That's a no-no on PESO or PAW posts. Shel, can you admonish them? g In any case, nice work, Ken. Paul On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Bob - I mean Bob S, vbg Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. I had quite a bit of time in a small field of sleeping Darners. As the sun rose they gradually woke up and became moving targets - not good. I chose this one because it was the most accessible without disturbing others had the background I was seeking. IIRC I was shooting low into the sun, which accounts for the added sparkle. BTW this was one of the last shots of this guy before he woke. This was my second attempt to capture these guys, never had the excellent conditions like this before. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - A bug in the field On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Thanks to all who took the time to comment - Bob S, Bruce, Jack, William R, Hank, David S., Frank, Bob S., Boris, Tom C., David B. Which Bob S is which? ;-) FWIW - this was taken with available light - no photons were harmed in its production. Yes that is dew, happily supplied by a cool damp night getting there early. No healing brush was used on this image. Dragonflies are among my favorite creatures. I've photographed them many times, not been fast enough to catch them many more times, and seen a few covered in dew first thing in the morning. But I never saw one as striking as the one you found and photographed so well. That photo would sell as a stock image, for sure. Bob
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Ken. Nice detail and good background. Nice photo. I hope to try out my macro lens this weekend if ther rain holds off. Dave -- Ken said: Hi! Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance David J Brooks Equine, Pets, Bands, Rural Landscape Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, PZ-1, Nikon D1 D2H
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I had a second look at the picture. There is one thing that bothers me a bit. There is a circular grey spot right next to the tale of the bug. It looks like you was a bit to hasty with a Healing brush there. I'm not saying it is traces of Healing brush, I'm only describing how it looks to me. This is a minor nit, but it could be improved there IMO. And I still consider it as stunning. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30. mars 2006 03:40 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - A bug in the field First reaction: Stunning. The bug sparkles. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30. mars 2006 03:25 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - A bug in the field Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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Ken, nice picture. I would crop the bottom part and a bit of the top and forget about 2/3 ratio. This would improve the focus on the subject itself. Perhaps first a bit of rotating to get the body part straight. Henk -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 March, 2006 3:25 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - A bug in the field Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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On 3/30/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller Beautiful shot Ken. Though I suspect that would look better at a larger size. At least, that's my experience with dragonfly pics. Dave -- All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - Spike Milligan
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On 3/29/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance EXQUISITE!!! Sorry for yelling, but it's just that good. I'm not normally really big on the bug shots, but this is spectacular. The light makes it shimmer, the background is buttery smooth and the green is beautiful, the subject is sharp. I can't fault this in any way - it's gorgeous. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Ken, All that shiny stuff really put me off on the picture. It was like a big blast of flash was corrupting the image. On a 4th viewing, I think it is perhaps dew that is drying on the dragon fly's wings and body. Now that is interesting! Still, I am troubled by all the sparkle... Regards, Bob S. On 3/30/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/29/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance EXQUISITE!!! Sorry for yelling, but it's just that good. I'm not normally really big on the bug shots, but this is spectacular. The light makes it shimmer, the background is buttery smooth and the green is beautiful, the subject is sharp. I can't fault this in any way - it's gorgeous. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Very nice! I like it as is. Quite unique with all the dew (I presume). Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - A bug in the field Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:24:59 -0500 Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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Hi! Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Ken, your kung-fu is better than mine ;-). It is truly excellent. Reminds me of work of honorable Mark Cassino! Boris
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On Mar 29, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent Gorgeous! Bob
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First reaction: Stunning. The bug sparkles. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30. mars 2006 03:25 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO - A bug in the field Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller
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Parts I love and a few things bother me. The bits of foliage hanging down under the dragonfly really caught my attention. At first they looked like the legs, but the focus was further than I expected, until I figured out what it was. That draws my attention away a bit. The other thing that negatively catches my eye is the extreme glitter of the dew drops. It looks like flash was used and they are reflecting too strongly. Almost like they were diamond jewelry or something. All that being said, it is quite an eye grabbing image - the colors and the background work very well. So a mixed result for me. Good, but not perfect. One and a half thumbs up for me. -- Bruce Wednesday, March 29, 2006, 5:24:59 PM, you wrote: KW Check out KW http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html KW Comments solicited KW Good/Bad/Indifferent KW What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? KW Thanks in advance KW Kenneth Waller
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Ken, Can't say what you might have done differently unless you had the needed control. IMO, had the critter been positioned in a more perpendicular position in relation to the twig, I believe I would find the scene somewhat more interesting. Beautifully sharp catch. Nice! Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments solicited Good/Bad/Indifferent What can you suggest/what would you have done differently? Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
