Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to disagree on the multiple centers of interest, and here's why. The dark areas form a nice triangle in the composition. If you draw lines bisecting the triangle's angles, they overlap directly on the woman in the middle. To me, center of interest does not mean your eye locks on one spot, and one spot only. It should be directed to explore the frame, but keep coming back to one thing. The hooded woman does add an element of mystery/mood. I think this is a terrific shot and is one I would be proud to have taken. Thanks, Darren! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I didn't analyze it quite so deeply, but after reading Darren's elucidation, I have to agree. My first impression upon looking at it was that it's a very arresting shot. I've definitely seen worse ones -- especially taken by myself. I would definitely consider it a keeper. -- Walt On 2/5/2011 8:15 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to disagree on the multiple centers of interest, and here's why. The dark areas form a nice triangle in the composition. If you draw lines bisecting the triangle's angles, they overlap directly on the woman in the middle. To me, center of interest does not mean your eye locks on one spot, and one spot only. It should be directed to explore the frame, but keep coming back to one thing. The hooded woman does add an element of mystery/mood. I think this is a terrific shot and is one I would be proud to have taken. Thanks, Darren! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: snip By that I mean that there are multiple centers of interest. My eye is drawn to them and enjoys them, but they don't parse into a coherent whole. I agree. Thanks for the comment, Godfrey. Much appreciated. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I'm going to disagree on the multiple centers of interest, and here's why. The dark areas form a nice triangle in the composition. If you draw lines bisecting the triangle's angles, they overlap directly on the woman in the middle. To me, center of interest does not mean your eye locks on one spot, and one spot only. It should be directed to explore the frame, but keep coming back to one thing. The hooded woman does add an element of mystery/mood. I think this is a terrific shot and is one I would be proud to have taken. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:01 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Doesn't quite do it for me Frank - the shot feels static, although you have two moving objects. Maybe the real shot is just of the woman walking into the mist, cropping out the cyclist? Thanks, John. Thoughts seem to be polarized on this one. I'm going to set it aside for a bit and see what I think later. Thanks to all who looked and commented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:27 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I like it, frank, but it is (if you'll pardon the multi-level pun) a little unfocused. ;-) By that I mean that there are multiple centers of interest. My eye is drawn to them and enjoys them, but they don't parse into a coherent whole. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) I see it now. It looks like you're using a CGA monitor. My guess is that you have your computer set for too small of a color space, and that isn't allowing fine enough gradations in the tones. Very reminiscent of the article someone recently posted about noise dithering the signal so that this didn't happen. Try going to your computer settings, monitor, and setting it to display thousands, or millions of colors. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
millions =) this looks like 65536 to me Cheers Ecke 2011/2/2 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) I see it now. It looks like you're using a CGA monitor. My guess is that you have your computer set for too small of a color space, and that isn't allowing fine enough gradations in the tones. Very reminiscent of the article someone recently posted about noise dithering the signal so that this didn't happen. Try going to your computer settings, monitor, and setting it to display thousands, or millions of colors. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
Feels like a side street of the filming set of Blade Runner... On 2/1/2011 8:27 PM, frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
Ann, I see it on your link, plaine as day, but Franks photo on my monitor is just fine. Dave On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) ann Larry Colen wrote: I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) I see it now. It looks like you're using a CGA monitor. My guess is that you have your computer set for too small of a color space, and that isn't allowing fine enough gradations in the tones. Very reminiscent of the article someone recently posted about noise dithering the signal so that this didn't happen. Try going to your computer settings, monitor, and setting it to display thousands, or millions of colors. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I went to 32 bit color in the windoze display settings... that did the trick! thank you! I had it set on 16... don't know why...I think it goes back to sometime when I or someone I knew thought if you set the color rendition too fine it would look wonky on older computers that couldn't deal with it. since I always got the colors right and prints right that I made I didn't think about it but I did reject some photos when I was voting in the Gallery because I thought it was _them_ oh dear! phew! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
The pink surrendered... see my reply to Larry - its in my monitor settings ann David J Brooks wrote: Ann, I see it on your link, plaine as day, but Franks photo on my monitor is just fine. Dave On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) ann Larry Colen wrote: I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:27 -0500, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I think this is one of your best ones this year - captures the winter mood perfectly. The steam is not so thick that it hides basic shapes. My only minor nit is that I would have preferred the biker's bum not to have been cut off. snip That's the right edge of the frame as shot, so I don't have any cropping options that would get more of the cyclist into the frame. Actually, I didn't see him coming - I was going for the pedestrian when he zipped in there. That being said, I kind of like him there, cut off as he is. Don't know why, just do. I'm still not 100% happy with this one, so I doubt that it'll be a keeper, but I'm glad you all seemed to like it. Thanks for the comments and for looking. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Inot the Mist
Frank,I like both pictures. Which is to say if if you draw a line down the middle it makes 2 great verticals. Together my eye jumps left right like a mismatched stereo picture. IMHO ..DG Message: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:27:38 -0500 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Inot the Mist Message-ID: AANLkTikgfh6RvH3oQd=kq-qqpybrphqynfow7_4sm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
From: Ann Sanfedele John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I think moire is the word for what I'm seeing... it is only in the steam ... pink scallopy edges in several concentric waves kinda... I wonder if it is only something that shows up on a monitor and disappears if you print. But I do like the photo! ann scallopy edges in several concentric waves sounds like the kind of banding I often see in a digital image of the sky around a blown highlight. Here's an extreme example of what I mean: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00V/00VlQe-220307684.jpg Deliberately extreme I think to illustrate the effect. I'm sure there's a good scientific explanation for why it occurs, but I think it's because digital is only capable of discrete levels. There are not enough discrete levels in 8 bits to display extreme contrast; there's no in-between like there is with analog. When the patterning is that extreme it will show up in prints. But prints are to some extent analog because ink drops or dyes tend to spread a little bit and you do get some in-between levels. And if the banding is not severe the spread of ink/dye may mask it. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is I think the moire will show up *more* on a monitor than it will on a print. Usual caveats apply - wont be the first time I've munged it up. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3417 - Release Date: 02/01/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
Usual caveats apply - wont be the first time I've munged it up. MARK! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO - Inot the Mist From: Ann Sanfedele John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I think moire is the word for what I'm seeing... it is only in the steam ... pink scallopy edges in several concentric waves kinda... I wonder if it is only something that shows up on a monitor and disappears if you print. But I do like the photo! ann scallopy edges in several concentric waves sounds like the kind of banding I often see in a digital image of the sky around a blown highlight. Here's an extreme example of what I mean: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00V/00VlQe-220307684.jpg Deliberately extreme I think to illustrate the effect. I'm sure there's a good scientific explanation for why it occurs, but I think it's because digital is only capable of discrete levels. There are not enough discrete levels in 8 bits to display extreme contrast; there's no in-between like there is with analog. When the patterning is that extreme it will show up in prints. But prints are to some extent analog because ink drops or dyes tend to spread a little bit and you do get some in-between levels. And if the banding is not severe the spread of ink/dye may mask it. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is I think the moire will show up *more* on a monitor than it will on a print. Usual caveats apply - wont be the first time I've munged it up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Inot the Mist
Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I think this is one of your best ones this year - captures the winter mood perfectly. The steam is not so thick that it hides basic shapes. My only minor nit is that I would have preferred the biker's bum not to have been cut off. snip That's the right edge of the frame as shot, so I don't have any cropping options that would get more of the cyclist into the frame. Actually, I didn't see him coming - I was going for the pedestrian when he zipped in there. That being said, I kind of like him there, cut off as he is. Don't know why, just do. I'm still not 100% happy with this one, so I doubt that it'll be a keeper, but I'm glad you all seemed to like it. Thanks for the comments and for looking. Jeez, Frank, get your head examined - it's a keeper. It's one of the most memorable photos I've seen on PDML in a long time. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:16 +, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I'm still not 100% happy with this one, so I doubt that it'll be a keeper, but I'm glad you all seemed to like it. Thanks for the comments and for looking. Jeez, Frank, get your head examined - it's a keeper. It's one of the most memorable photos I've seen on PDML in a long time. Yeah. What Bob said! 2011 Photo Annual worthy Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Inot the Mist
[...] Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank [...] scallopy edges in several concentric waves sounds like the kind of banding I often see in a digital image of the sky around a blown highlight. Here's an extreme example of what I mean: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00V/00VlQe-220307684.jpg Deliberately extreme I think to illustrate the effect. I'm sure there's a good scientific explanation for why it occurs, but I think it's because digital is only capable of discrete levels. There are not enough discrete levels in 8 bits to display extreme contrast; there's no in-between like there is with analog. When the patterning is that extreme it will show up in prints. But prints are to some extent analog because ink drops or dyes tend to spread a little bit and you do get some in-between levels. And if the banding is not severe the spread of ink/dye may mask it. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is I think the moire will show up *more* on a monitor than it will on a print. Usual caveats apply - wont be the first time I've munged it up. I think this is something to do with the video card or the monitor. I don't see the banding on this photo, but on a machine I used to use it would sometimes happen that I would put a photo on the screen and see no banding, but if it stayed up there a while the banding would appear, as if the monitor or card realised nothing was changing, and cut down on the refresh somehow. If I refreshed it manually the banding would disappear. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
From: Ann Sanfedele Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) I see it now. It looks like you're using a CGA monitor. My guess is that you have your computer set for too small of a color space, and that isn't allowing fine enough gradations in the tones. Very reminiscent of the article someone recently posted about noise dithering the signal so that this didn't happen. Try going to your computer settings, monitor, and setting it to display thousands, or millions of colors. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I went to 32 bit color in the windoze display settings... that did the trick! thank you! I had it set on 16... don't know why... I think it goes back to sometime when I or someone I knew thought if you set the color rendition too fine it would look wonky on older computers that couldn't deal with it. since I always got the colors right and prints right that I made I didn't think about it but I did reject some photos when I was voting in the Gallery because I thought it was _them_ oh dear! phew! On a Windoze box, if the computer can't handle the color rendition it won't be offered as an option. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3417 - Release Date: 02/01/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Inot the Mist
Doesn't quite do it for me Frank - the shot feels static, although you have two moving objects. Maybe the real shot is just of the woman walking into the mist, cropping out the cyclist? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 4:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Inot the Mist Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Inot the Mist
Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I hate to say it but there are too many centers of interest, almost as if you had several photographs in one. When you originally asked for any thoughts I was going to make some flip comment, but I actually had something useful to say. On 2/1/2011 1:27 PM, frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I'm not picking up the streaking, Ann. I see pole shadow(s), but nothing I interpret as streaking.(?) Jack --- On Tue, 2/1/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO - Inot the Mist To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 11:27 AM Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Feb 1, 2011, at 13:27, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? I see sort-of magenta-like details in the right and left edges of the photo as well. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:27 -0500, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I think this is one of your best ones this year - captures the winter mood perfectly. The steam is not so thick that it hides basic shapes. My only minor nit is that I would have preferred the biker's bum not to have been cut off. I'm not sure about the 'streakiness' that Ann mentioned - certainly nothing that I wouldn't have thought was just a natural variation in the density of the steam. I'm not picking up any pinkish tones either. Maybe just as well I have an optometrist's appointment tomorrow :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Inot the Mist
Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I'm absolutely positive about it - superb shot, full of mystery and some sort of sci-fi steam punk Jack the Ripper glamour. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On 1/2/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: some sort of sci-fi steam punk Jack the Ripper glamour. Bob, I wish I could think with your head for a day -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On 2 February 2011 09:51, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: Bob, I wish I could think with your head for a day I don't do this very often but... Mark! -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:27 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I am not seeing the streaks or magenta bits others have commented on, but i love the shot. Has a strange futuristic feel to it. Dave -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
It's got a real feel to it. Quite a range of contrast zones. It is busy but I'm not sure I'd want to chop it up. After all, life gets busy sometimes. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:27 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I am not seeing the streaks or magenta bits others have commented on, but i love the shot. Has a strange futuristic feel to it. Dave -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I like it. Film noir. Paul On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:27 PM, frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Inot the Mist
From: frank theriault Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I think you have two photos there ... 1. The cyclist on the right - cropped 3:2 with the left edge just to the right of the woman; lower edge just at the curb including the concrete band that edges the paving stones. 2. The woman in the center - cropped 3:2 from just to the right of the traffic cones to the left edge; lower edge kisses the edge of the gutter at the lower left corner. The top half of the photograph doesn't contribute for me, although you might also find vertical crops from the two images. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3415 - Release Date: 01/31/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3415 - Release Date: 01/31/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I'm with Brian. I don't seen any streaks either. I love the picture, Frank. Not sure about the Jack the Ripper glamour thing, but mystery, you bet. I'm with the poster there. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Inot the Mist On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:27 -0500, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html I think this is one of your best ones this year - captures the winter mood perfectly. The steam is not so thick that it hides basic shapes. My only minor nit is that I would have preferred the biker's bum not to have been cut off. I'm not sure about the 'streakiness' that Ann mentioned - certainly nothing that I wouldn't have thought was just a natural variation in the density of the steam. I'm not picking up any pinkish tones either. Maybe just as well I have an optometrist's appointment tomorrow :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On 11-02-01 9:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. I have to agree. I looked closely at this on my two monitors, my 20 iMac LCD and an older Dell IPS display which is my main photo-editing display. FWIW, these are both calibrated with a Spyder3Pro. I can't see any artifacts, especially anything with colour, in either display. And I think the shot is pretty cool, too. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I think moire is the word for what I'm seeing... it is only in the steam ... pink scallopy edges in several concentric waves kinda... I wonder if it is only something that shows up on a monitor and disappears if you print. But I do like the photo! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote:From: Ann Sanfedele Gotta point this out to Larry... There is an odd phenom happening here - on the right side there is a kind of streakiness in the steam Something I had earlier seen in one of Larry's pics and couldt describe well ... it has little to do with your photo as a photo - which I like, but it is something that happens with digital captures and processing that wouldn't have happened with film... another thing is, when this happens, what does one do to get rid of it? Am I the only one seeing the pinkish waves? ann frank theriault wrote: frank theriault wrote: Not so sure about this one. Any thoughts? http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/into-mist.html thanks, frank I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. It only shows up when I'm looking at something with a large area of ... um an area that lacks detail.. it shows up in all three browsers I have (I don't use explorer .. but I checked it out in that anyway) Yeah, since no one else sees it , it must have something to do with the monitor... So I'm going to take a picture of the screen wiith Frank's picture on it and post it on smugmug - stay tuned... then tell me what to do to fix it lol ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) ann Larry Colen wrote: I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:41 -0500, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) Well, yes. Plain as day. I'm not seeing anything like that - no visible banding at all. I'm also seeing a lot more shadow detail on my display (eg. to the left of the pole on the bottom left). I don't have a clue when it comes to resolving monitor problems - but I'm sure a few of the list gurus can offer advice. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ ann Larry Colen wrote: I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist - the pink stuff
Ann, I don't see any pink but lots of banding in the fog. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ok here is Franks photo as seen on my monitor... http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/stuff/6668550_NAGh5/1/1175156596_y5R7S/Large Please say you see it now :-) ann Larry Colen wrote: I see what looks like sunlight and shadow streaks through the steam over in front of the cyclist. There appear to be some streaks of wind-blown mist around the woman and what may be the shadow of something outside of the frame above and behind her. I also see what look like fairly heavy jpeg compression artifacts around the front of the bicycle frame, the front wheel and where the cyclist's arms extend down towards where he's holding the handlebars. Or perhaps it's some kind of moire pattern from the capture. I'm not seeing those. I wonder if perhaps Ann is running into problems from a low resolution monitor, or heavy compression for the bit per pixel of her monitor or something. A lot of what she describes sounds like artifacts from overly processing jpegs where you end up with a histogram that looks like a comb. Maybe there's some processing in her display system that has a similar effect. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:33 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: When you originally asked for any thoughts I was going to make some flip comment, but I actually had something useful to say. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
