Re: Pentax 67 questions?
Extra cookies for that man. S David Mann wrote: On Mar 9, 2004, at 10:01, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Can anyone provide approximate dimensions for the various 6x7 Pentax models, also, approx weight with 90mm and 65mm lenses (or similar close focal lengths)? I have an Excel spreadsheet somewhere with this kind of info. I was gathering information for building a Pentax 67 reference website (similar kind of thing to Boz's 35mm site). The site never eventuated but I still have the info. I really must get an Office app for this Mac. Let me just boot up the PC... OK I can offer the following information: 67 without finder or batteries: 177mm wide x 101mm high x 91mm deep, 1290g or 7.0" x 4.0" x 3.6", 2.8lb 67II without finder or batteries: 185.4mm wide x 108.5mm high x 92mm deep, 1210g or 7.3" x 4.3" x 3.6", 42.7oz (2.67lb) 67II with prism, without batteries: 185.5mm wide x 151mm high x 106mm deep, 1660g or 7.3" x 5.9" x 4.2", 42.7oz (3.66lb) As for lenses, there is no 65mm (I wish there was); I'll substitute with 75mm and 55mm. The 90mm f/2.8 (latest model, no leaf-shutter) weighs 480g (1lb, 1oz) 55mm f/4 is 725g (1lb 9.6oz) 75m f/2.8 and the older f/4.5 are both the same at 560g (1lb 3.8oz) Sorry that's all the data I have :) I don't have info for the 6x7... hang on, I'll weigh mine since I have one. These readings include a battery (which makes little difference): 6x7 body with no finder or lens: 1234g (2lb 11 5/8oz) 6x7 body with folding waist-level finder: 1364g (3lb 0oz) 6x7 body with TTL prism finder: 1756g (3lb 14oz) And the 67 wooden grip by itself (note the 67II has a different grip): 212g (7 1/2oz). Hope that helps... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Pentax 67 questions?
Wow! That's perfect. Just what i was looking for. Thanks so much! shel ;-))) David Mann wrote: > > On Mar 9, 2004, at 10:01, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Can anyone provide approximate dimensions for the various > > 6x7 Pentax models, also, approx weight with 90mm and 65mm > > lenses (or similar close focal lengths)? > > I have an Excel spreadsheet somewhere with this kind of info. I was > gathering information for building a Pentax 67 reference website > (similar kind of thing to Boz's 35mm site). The site never eventuated > but I still have the info. > > I really must get an Office app for this Mac. Let me just boot up the > PC... > > OK I can offer the following information: > > 67 without finder or batteries: > 177mm wide x 101mm high x 91mm deep, 1290g > or 7.0" x 4.0" x 3.6", 2.8lb > > 67II without finder or batteries: > 185.4mm wide x 108.5mm high x 92mm deep, 1210g > or 7.3" x 4.3" x 3.6", 42.7oz (2.67lb) > > 67II with prism, without batteries: > 185.5mm wide x 151mm high x 106mm deep, 1660g > or 7.3" x 5.9" x 4.2", 42.7oz (3.66lb) > > As for lenses, there is no 65mm (I wish there was); I'll substitute > with 75mm and 55mm. > The 90mm f/2.8 (latest model, no leaf-shutter) weighs 480g (1lb, 1oz) > 55mm f/4 is 725g (1lb 9.6oz) > 75m f/2.8 and the older f/4.5 are both the same at 560g (1lb 3.8oz) > > Sorry that's all the data I have :) I don't have info for the 6x7... > hang on, I'll weigh mine since I have one. These readings include a > battery (which makes little difference): > 6x7 body with no finder or lens: 1234g (2lb 11 5/8oz) > 6x7 body with folding waist-level finder: 1364g (3lb 0oz) > 6x7 body with TTL prism finder: 1756g (3lb 14oz) > And the 67 wooden grip by itself (note the 67II has a different grip): > 212g (7 1/2oz).
Re: Pentax 67 questions?
On Mar 9, 2004, at 10:01, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Can anyone provide approximate dimensions for the various 6x7 Pentax models, also, approx weight with 90mm and 65mm lenses (or similar close focal lengths)? I have an Excel spreadsheet somewhere with this kind of info. I was gathering information for building a Pentax 67 reference website (similar kind of thing to Boz's 35mm site). The site never eventuated but I still have the info. I really must get an Office app for this Mac. Let me just boot up the PC... OK I can offer the following information: 67 without finder or batteries: 177mm wide x 101mm high x 91mm deep, 1290g or 7.0" x 4.0" x 3.6", 2.8lb 67II without finder or batteries: 185.4mm wide x 108.5mm high x 92mm deep, 1210g or 7.3" x 4.3" x 3.6", 42.7oz (2.67lb) 67II with prism, without batteries: 185.5mm wide x 151mm high x 106mm deep, 1660g or 7.3" x 5.9" x 4.2", 42.7oz (3.66lb) As for lenses, there is no 65mm (I wish there was); I'll substitute with 75mm and 55mm. The 90mm f/2.8 (latest model, no leaf-shutter) weighs 480g (1lb, 1oz) 55mm f/4 is 725g (1lb 9.6oz) 75m f/2.8 and the older f/4.5 are both the same at 560g (1lb 3.8oz) Sorry that's all the data I have :) I don't have info for the 6x7... hang on, I'll weigh mine since I have one. These readings include a battery (which makes little difference): 6x7 body with no finder or lens: 1234g (2lb 11 5/8oz) 6x7 body with folding waist-level finder: 1364g (3lb 0oz) 6x7 body with TTL prism finder: 1756g (3lb 14oz) And the 67 wooden grip by itself (note the 67II has a different grip): 212g (7 1/2oz). Hope that helps... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Pentax 67 questions?
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Pentax 67 questions? > Can anyone provide approximate dimensions for the various > 6x7 Pentax models, also, approx weight with 90mm and 65mm > lenses (or similar close focal lengths)? > If all you need is approximate, then the Pentax web site should have that information. They are all pretty much the same size, though the newest one is somewhat more ergonomic that the earlier versions. William Robb
Re: Pentax 67 questions?
On 8/3/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Can anyone provide approximate dimensions for the various >6x7 Pentax models, also, approx weight with 90mm and 65mm >lenses (or similar close focal lengths)? Shel, 362 X 184 X 812 feet weight with 65mm : 1250 metric tons weight with 90mm : (scales unserviceable) I understand it comes with it's only launch gantry and control center from new. Staff extra. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Pentax 67 Questions
On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 04:52 PM, David A. Mann wrote: > I haven't used the 6x7 with a bag, but when I do I think I'll put it > in sideways > instead of vertically, provided my bag is deep enough. That way the MLU > switch can't be accidentally activated.\ I did that in the bag I had in between my old one and my current backpack. It won't fit sideways in my backpack, unfortunately. I always wind the film on, because I'm certain to forget to wind and miss a shot if I don't. ;) I also always carry a spare 4SR44 battery. In fact, I have one in each different bag I use, as well as a pair of spare SR44s for my LX and ME Super. > The one I got in my 6x7 (secondhand) is incredible. Two stops brighter > than > my RB67. Don't know it its the standard one or not. It is blank matte > apart > from a small microprism circle in the centre (I am not fond of those > split-image > screens). Sounds like the standard screen. It's a gem, isn't it? You're shooting with a waist level finder, not a prism, right? The prism is good, but it's shocking how much light it eats (but I suppose all prisms are like that). Still, the view through it is great. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67 Questions
On Sunday, December 23, 2001, at 03:14 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > 1. What battery(s) does it take and how long > do they last ( without using metered prism )? I use my 67 heavily and have change my batteries twice since spring 1998 (when I bought the camera). The first time was within the first month of ownership, when I accidentally locked up the mirror and didn't notice. The second time was a couple of months ago when I did the same thing. Always be careful when putting your 67 into a bag. I don't have the metering prism, BTW. > 3. Are the screens user changable? I might buy a > beatie for it. Pentax Canada will change your screen for you if you're buying one from them. It is apparently a quick and painless operation that doesn't take too long. Personally, I'm quite fond of the screen in my 67 (the standard Pentax one).\ > 5. Is the wooden grip a must have item for handholding? I don't think so. I don't have one. I've held a 67 with the wooden grip and found it awkward. > 6. How can I stop from spending 1000's on lenses? ( just kidding ) Become very very poor. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67 Questions
Well, at least be selective about your next PUG submission. :) Collin >On a related note, I sat on my 77mm... >tv >- - * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67 Questions
Aaron Reynolds writes: > Does the 45mm not offer half-stop positions? Eek! The 105mm does. > Anyone know about the 55mm? The 45mm does. I should have been more clear about my desire for half-stop shutter speeds: they allow you to set the exact aperture you want (for whatever DOF effect you're after) without being limited to full-stop increments to get the right exposure. That's just a minor nit-pick because I'm not normally that critical on my out-of-focus effects. > Is it the Pentax grid? I love the standard matte screen that came with > the body, but I'm always looking for new screens...plus, if I get a > 45mm, the grid could prove useful. I have no idea who made my grid screen. Is there any way I can tell? > If the 67 had the LX's metering, I'd never ever use anything but the 67. :) Maybe the 67 III will have such a metering system :) > I could sit and focus the 105mm all day long. I'm intending to get a 90mm myself. I prefer the focal length and it is reputed to be a little better at f/22 (the 105 is said to be better wide-open). When walking around with the 45 yesterday I kept wishing I had a longer lens. Then I realised that I should be trying to use the wide lens more effectively. It sucks when you realise how bad a photographer you really are :) Another plus for the 67 is that I can tilt the tripod over to portrait orientation without seriously unbalancing the rig. The RB67 is so big and heavy in comparison that it _needs_ the rotating back. > Congrats on an excellent score...let us know how the pics turn out! I'll scan a couple if they're any good. At least I will be able to put 6x7 pics on PUG now :) I'm Pentax throughout now, right down to the light meter :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax 67 Questions
David A. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When using MLU is there a way to release the mirror back down without > actually taking a picture? Hi David, I'm pretty sure it is not possible. You have to take the picture. Be careful, the MLU of th 67 is an electrical device, it's not good to leave the mirror up since it can quickly drain the battery. > What is the little inset black button located on the front of the camera below > the shutter release (is it the answer to the last question)? When you try to shot with the battery exhausted the mirror locks half way up. The only way to return to normal is insert a new battery and press that little button. It will let the mirror complete its way up and down, while losing a frame. > How long does the battery generally last? The manual states battery life of around 8000-1 exposures (mine is the 6x7 manual, though). Hope this helps. Gianfranco __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax 67 Questions
Yes, I have questions about my "new" camera already. When using MLU is there a way to release the mirror back down without actually taking a picture? What is the little inset black button located on the front of the camera below the shutter release (is it the answer to the last question)? How long does the battery generally last? A couple of comments as well. The 45mm lens seems to be virtually distortion- free. I am simply stunned by the lack of flare even when pointed into the sun. I can't wait to finish the film and get the slides back to see what the sharpness is like (I've been shooting f/5.6 to f/16 so far with MLU on a tripod). I find the lens DOF preview control (the auto/manual switch) to be in a strange place, but the fact that it can lock keeps one hand free when you're trying to decide between f/5.6 and f/8 (half-stop shutter speeds would be nice BTW). Also the grid screen is amazingly bright. Side by side, its about two stops brighter than my RB67's split-image screen. I'd like to get a wooden grip to make it easier to carry but one of the mounting lugs is loose so I might have to look into that. The mechanical MLU modification is tempting but I think I can live without it. I don't often spend long times waiting for stuff to happen, and I very rarely do ultra-long night shots with 6x7 anyway. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
dave o'brien wrote: > The 6x7 comes with a 105/f2.4 as standard and that seems to be about a > 50mm equiv. It's also just about the fastest MF lens available. The 90mm has a slightly closer minimum focus distance, from what I recall when I was deciding which to buy with my 67. Our Pentax rep (and a couple of other people) told me that the 90mm was sharper than the 105mm at the f22-32 end of the scale, while the 105mm was sharper from f2.4 to 4. Since I shoot a lot of low light stuff, that made the decision easy for me, and with the money I saved I bought the helicoid extension tube (which totally rocks). The 105mm is absolutely outstanding. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
A scroll of mail from Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:43:26 -0400 Read it? y >hmmm. Isn't 90mm more of a normal lens on a 6x7? It is about equivalent to a 45mm in >the 35mm world, innit? The 6x7 comes with a 105/f2.4 as standard and that seems to be about a 50mm equiv. It's also just about the fastest MF lens available. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
A scroll of mail from "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sat, 1 Sep 2001 15:28:10 +1200 Read it? y > Not a steal, they know what gear is worth :) If it's still there tomorrow I'll ask >them what its worth without the lens. I know its a little pointless having a body >with no lenses but at least it'll give me an incentive to sell the RB67 kit. Incentive to sell a RB67? Try "It's feeping heavy!" dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
I think it was intended for weddings and things like that. --graywolf "David A. Mann" wrote: > > Doug Brewer writes: > > > hmmm. Isn't 90mm more of a normal lens on a 6x7? It is about equivalent to a > > 45mm in the 35mm world, innit? > > Yes. It's a focal length I'm really fond of (my RB67 came with a 90mm f/3.8). > I assumed the Pentax to be an outdoors portrait lens because they put a leaf > shutter into it, perfect for fill-flash. Probably not well suited to head-and- > shoulders shots though. > > Cheers, > > - Dave > > David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ > > "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, > while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
"David A. Mann" wrote: > The shop I got it from had a very nice Pentax 67 (latest model before the 67II) > recently arrive on the shelf. I got one of the last new 67s in 1998. I adore it. > Since I'm intending to buy a 67 at some stage (I've decided that I don't need > the extra features of the 67II): how do you activate the mirror lockup? I don't > know how to cock the shutter without film in the camera so I couldn't try the > "mystery switch" on the left of the lens mount, which I thought might be the > MLU control. It's the switch that can be pressed upwards on the left hand side of the mirror box when the camera is sitting with its lens towards you. Makes a satisfying klunk. :) How much were they asking for the body and lens? Was it a steal? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
Doug Brewer writes: > hmmm. Isn't 90mm more of a normal lens on a 6x7? It is about equivalent to a > 45mm in the 35mm world, innit? Yes. It's a focal length I'm really fond of (my RB67 came with a 90mm f/3.8). I assumed the Pentax to be an outdoors portrait lens because they put a leaf shutter into it, perfect for fill-flash. Probably not well suited to head-and- shoulders shots though. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
hmmm. Isn't 90mm more of a normal lens on a 6x7? It is about equivalent to a 45mm in the 35mm world, innit? Doug At 8:03 AM +12008/31/01, David A. Mann wrote, or at least typed: > Well I'm now the proud owner of one second-hand Pentax digital spot meter. >Quite a nice little piece of equipment :) > > The shop I got it from had a very nice Pentax 67 (latest model before the 67II) >recently arrive on the shelf. If it were a little (actually a lot) cheaper I would >have bought it as its in really good condition. They had an older, more "used" >body selling at a lower price, with a waist level finder and a very bright >focussing screen with the grid-lines on it. I might have bought that if they'd >had a lens to go with it :) > > One thing I found strange: the newer body had a 90mm f/2.8 leaf shutter lens >on it. Seems strange to put only 5 aperture blades into what's essentially an >outdoor portrait lens. > > Since I'm intending to buy a 67 at some stage (I've decided that I don't need >the extra features of the 67II): how do you activate the mirror lockup? I don't >know how to cock the shutter without film in the camera so I couldn't try the >"mystery switch" on the left of the lens mount, which I thought might be the >MLU control. > >Cheers, > > >- Dave -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: penabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
>From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The shop I got it from had a very nice Pentax 67 (latest model before the 67II) >recently arrive on the shelf. If it were a little (actually a lot) >cheaper I would >have bought it as its in really good condition. They had an older, more >"used" >body selling at a lower price, with a waist level finder and a very bright >focussing screen with the grid-lines on it. I might have bought that if >they'd >had a lens to go with it :) Actually, as has been the discussion on the list regarding LXs, well-used pro equipment is going to be in more need of repair than newer equipment. Even with the 25% savings, part of that can easily be put into a repair within a short period of time. Consequently, I'd be certain that the film transport & gears all sound very smooth. Or get a new/newer body and postpone the inevitable. jmho, Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
- Original Message - From: "bc" < Subject: Pentax 67 questions > BTW, for the list members who may have experience with > the 90mm F2.8 LS, is it generally considered a decent > lens? and what would the rough asking price for it be? I have no idea of what a fair price is for the lens. I got mine for Can$500, and I think I did OK, as B&H had one listed at the time for US$600. The lens is remarkabley good, it is not prone to flare, and is very sharp and contrasty. The lack of aperture blades doesn't seem to adversely affect bokeh over much. One caveat with the LS lenses, Pentax indicates a focal plane shutter speed of 1/8th second for when using the lens shutter. This is because of timeing issues with the leaf shutter actuation, and must be adhered to, or you will damage the shutter actuation mechanism, and possibly the aperture coupling as well. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
- snip - > One thing I found strange: the newer body had a 90mm f/2.8 leaf shutter lens > on it. Seems strange to put only 5 aperture blades into what's essentially an > outdoor portrait lens. - snip - How much do they want for the lens only? and is it in decent condition? I just picked up a 67II (brand new) and am looking at both the 165/F4-LS and the older 90mm F2.8 LS. BTW, for the list members who may have experience with the 90mm F2.8 LS, is it generally considered a decent lens? and what would the rough asking price for it be? Cheers, Brian - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
David A. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since I'm intending to buy a 67 at some stage (I've decided that I don't need > the extra features of the 67II): how do you activate the mirror lockup? I don't > know how to cock the shutter without film in the camera so I couldn't try the > "mystery switch" on the left of the lens mount, which I thought might be the > MLU control. > > Cheers, Hi Dave, The shutter can be cocked by opening the back, turning the frame counter over the 0 (there is a dial for this on the advance lever) and then, keeping the counter in position, closing the back. This allows the shutter to work without film. You can lock the mirror up only when the shutter is cocked, of course. Forgetting the mirror up can drain the battery, though. There is another way to do that, but a special key is needed. Gianfranco __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
enabled again, plus Pentax 67 questions
Well I'm now the proud owner of one second-hand Pentax digital spot meter. Quite a nice little piece of equipment :) The shop I got it from had a very nice Pentax 67 (latest model before the 67II) recently arrive on the shelf. If it were a little (actually a lot) cheaper I would have bought it as its in really good condition. They had an older, more "used" body selling at a lower price, with a waist level finder and a very bright focussing screen with the grid-lines on it. I might have bought that if they'd had a lens to go with it :) One thing I found strange: the newer body had a 90mm f/2.8 leaf shutter lens on it. Seems strange to put only 5 aperture blades into what's essentially an outdoor portrait lens. Since I'm intending to buy a 67 at some stage (I've decided that I don't need the extra features of the 67II): how do you activate the mirror lockup? I don't know how to cock the shutter without film in the camera so I couldn't try the "mystery switch" on the left of the lens mount, which I thought might be the MLU control. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
