Re: Proof and Pentax
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Proof and Pentax BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. Hell, half the photographers I deal with are blind, I am sure. William Robb
Re: Proof and Pentax
Can't help you with what camera it was Shel. But when I first saw it I remember thinking it looked like a Pentax. For those who haven't seen Proof, the blind photographer is played by Hugo Weaving. Better known as Agent Smith in the Matrix movies or as Lord Elrond in the Lord of the Rings. It also stars a young Russell Crowe, best known for throwing phones / tantrums etc. BTW, Russell Crowe is a Kiwi, not an Aussie. So watch out for David Mann if you ever come across him. g (sorry Dave) You guys have been going on about Captain Kangaroo other shows that were way before my time, I thought I'd just chip in these little facts. Dave On 6/26/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent an enjoyable couple of hours watching the movie Proof (http://imdb.com/title/tt0102721/) which, in it's most simple description, is about a blind photographer and how he uses photography to explore the world around him that he can sense but not see. He uses a PS camera, one with auto focus and a zoom lens. The camera looks and sounds remarkably like a Pentax IQ Zoom, something along the lines of the 105R. Does anyone know for sure what camera was used in the movie? BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. Shel
Re: Proof and Pentax
On Jun 26, 2005, at 6:29 PM, David Savage wrote: BTW, Russell Crowe is a Kiwi, not an Aussie. So watch out for David Mann if you ever come across him. g (sorry Dave) Well you aussies keep claiming our celebrities anyway. Normally we cry foul but we'll let you have this one. Please, take him. Cheers, - Dave (looks nothing like Russell Crowe and does not own a sheep) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Proof and Pentax
On 6/26/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Proof and Pentax BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. Hell, half the photographers I deal with are blind, I am sure. William Robb There's a joke about me in there somewhere... g -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Proof and Pentax
This one time, at band camp, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. I like the idea of a blind photog. Except when a photo is taken, I would would like a description of the photogs perseptions, and feelings of what is going on about him/her. To get a taste of how the photog percieves the world to how the camera does. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: Proof and Pentax
Legally blind and blind are too entirely different things. Without my glasses I am legally blind (of course being correctable I am not actually), but I do not bump into things and can actually recognize people. I certainly could take photographs although they would have to empathize shape and color rather than detail. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Shel Belinkoff wrote: I just spent an enjoyable couple of hours watching the movie Proof (http://imdb.com/title/tt0102721/) which, in it's most simple description, is about a blind photographer and how he uses photography to explore the world around him that he can sense but not see. He uses a PS camera, one with auto focus and a zoom lens. The camera looks and sounds remarkably like a Pentax IQ Zoom, something along the lines of the 105R. Does anyone know for sure what camera was used in the movie? BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. Shel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005
Re: Proof and Pentax
Have a look at the John Dugdale exhibit at http://johnstevenson-gallery.com/dugdale_2003_lead.html He's photographer blinded by an illness a little over ten years ago. There is quite a bit of information about how he works. It's an interesting read. View Camera Magazine also published an article about him in their Nov/Dec 2004 issue. On 6/26/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent an enjoyable couple of hours watching the movie Proof (http://imdb.com/title/tt0102721/) which, in it's most simple description, is about a blind photographer and how he uses photography to explore the world around him that he can sense but not see. He uses a PS camera, one with auto focus and a zoom lens. The camera looks and sounds remarkably like a Pentax IQ Zoom, something along the lines of the 105R. Does anyone know for sure what camera was used in the movie? BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. Shel -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Proof and Pentax
- Original Message - From: Graywolf Subject: Re: Proof and Pentax I certainly could take photographs although they would have to empathize shape and color rather than detail. Tom (Tony Sweet) Rittenhouse WW
RE: Proof and Pentax
BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. I had a blind photographer as a customer when I worked for CVS. He used a PS camera. No great works of art but he shot as well as half of my customers. WRT the blind photographer shooting the manual focus camera, I don't believe 20/200 is even close to blind. I have 20/100 and my prescription is not that severe. I'm sure the list must have an optometrist or eye doctor that can confirm or correct me. Butch
Re: Proof and Pentax
I think I've had some color blind printers process my films at the drug store. :-) On 6/26/05, Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. I had a blind photographer as a customer when I worked for CVS. He used a PS camera. No great works of art but he shot as well as half of my customers. WRT the blind photographer shooting the manual focus camera, I don't believe 20/200 is even close to blind. I have 20/100 and my prescription is not that severe. I'm sure the list must have an optometrist or eye doctor that can confirm or correct me. Butch
Re: Proof and Pentax
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Proof and Pentax I think I've had some color blind printers process my films at the drug store. :-) All printer techs are colour blind. Part of the hiring process is to weed out peple who can see and think. William Robb
Re: Proof and Pentax
Frank ... you've become way to self-referential lately. It doesn't become you. Shel [Original Message] From: frank theriault BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. Hell, half the photographers I deal with are blind, I am sure. William Robb There's a joke about me in there somewhere...
RE: Proof and Pentax
20/200 is considered legally blind, Butch. Shel [Original Message] From: Butch Black WRT the blind photographer shooting the manual focus camera, I don't believe 20/200 is even close to blind. I have 20/100 and my prescription is not that severe. I'm sure the list must have an optometrist or eye doctor that can confirm or correct me.
Re: Proof and Pentax
Shel Belinkoff wrote: 20/200 is considered legally blind... To clarify: Someone is legally blind if their vision is 20/200 after they put their glasses on. They are not legally blind if their vision can be corrected to better than 20/200. Tom Reese
Re: Proof and Pentax
As long as you know there's no point is stating the obvious... frank theriault wrote: On 6/26/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Proof and Pentax BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. Hell, half the photographers I deal with are blind, I am sure. William Robb There's a joke about me in there somewhere... g -frank -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Proof and Pentax
Shel Belinkoff wrote: 20/200 is considered legally blind... To clarify: Someone is legally blind if their vision is 20/200 after they put their glasses on. They are not legally blind if their vision can be corrected to better than 20/200. Tom Reese That makes more sense to me. I would be severely limited if I had to do much without my glasses on. I would consider myself unfunctionable if it was twice as bad. If that was the best I could do with glasses on I could see it (pun intended) as being legally blind. Butch
Re: Proof and Pentax
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shel Belinkoff) wrote: BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area ... Yup: one came in the camera shop where I worked as a teenager. This being in pre-autofocus days, he used a Zenit 80 - a Russian copy of an early Hasslblad - to get a reasonably large focusing screen. He'd have been better off with a TLR, I reckon, since the Zenit was heavy, complicated and not very good quality, but he got some OK pictures with it. -- PDML means I get more e-mail than spam!
Re: Proof and Pentax
It is if that is the best they can do with correction. That is the key point with legally blind. A lot of us can not see any better with our glasses off, but that is how they see with their glasses on. If your vision is fully correctable you are not legally blind no matter how bad it is without correction. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Butch Black wrote: BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. I had a blind photographer as a customer when I worked for CVS. He used a PS camera. No great works of art but he shot as well as half of my customers. WRT the blind photographer shooting the manual focus camera, I don't believe 20/200 is even close to blind. I have 20/100 and my prescription is not that severe. I'm sure the list must have an optometrist or eye doctor that can confirm or correct me. Butch -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005
Re: Proof and Pentax
That is not hard to do, anyone who can think would not work for that pay grin. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Proof and Pentax I think I've had some color blind printers process my films at the drug store. :-) All printer techs are colour blind. Part of the hiring process is to weed out peple who can see and think. William Robb -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/2005
Re: Proof and Pentax
On 6/26/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank ... you've become way to self-referential lately. Really? It doesn't become you. Dear me. I guess I'll stop then. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Proof and Pentax
I just spent an enjoyable couple of hours watching the movie Proof (http://imdb.com/title/tt0102721/) which, in it's most simple description, is about a blind photographer and how he uses photography to explore the world around him that he can sense but not see. He uses a PS camera, one with auto focus and a zoom lens. The camera looks and sounds remarkably like a Pentax IQ Zoom, something along the lines of the 105R. Does anyone know for sure what camera was used in the movie? BTW, don't laugh too hard at the idea of a blind photographer. There are at least three legally blind photographers living and working in the San Francisco area that I know of ... their work is remarkable in that at least two of them do their own printing as well as making photos, and one uses a manual focus camera. He, I believe, is the least blind of the group, with a 20/200 vision. Shel
