Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens
An eye dropper ? -Original Message- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens From: steve harley on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover How else you going to find Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/6/2012 2:37 AM, Bob W wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover How else you going to find Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens? I thought it was whisky in kittens I'm not sure if this would improve the kittens much. B -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling On 12/6/2012 2:37 AM, Bob W wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover How else you going to find Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens? I thought it was whisky in kittens I'm not sure if this would improve the kittens much. they start doing Humphrey Bogart impressions, pretending to be in Catablanca, saying Here's looking at you, kit, and Round up all the usual suspets. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Who shoots flowers in the drizzle or rain? Well, I for one. :-) With day-lilies you shoot them when they have come out and are at their best regardless of the weather. And the light is often optimal on rainy days. Both of these were shot in the rain, with DA* glass, tripod and my Tilley hat: Iris: http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/3574104231/lightbox/ Flower and insect in one: http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/3743921363/lightbox/ If I had a WR macro I'd use it for the smaller flowers. I'll probably get an extension tube for my DA* 50-135. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using the cheaper 100/3.5 version of the macro lens, and find it perfect w/o casting shadows on the subject whether flowers, coins, insects or whatever - which may not be possible with a 50 mm macro. The shooting distance with a 100 mm macro is optimum - does not frighten the subject by being too near it. Also as an amateur photographer I shoot macro maybe once in a month. And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? Anyway the choice is very much individual. Regards. Bipin. camp:Toronto, Canada not from the far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens
on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark! steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: steve harley on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover How else you going to find Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover How else you going to find Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens? I thought it was whisky in kittens B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley on 2012-12-03 19:00 Bipin Gupta wrote And a WR lens is not at all necessary, for who would go flower or insect shooting in a drizzle?? some flowers are the merest things, missed by most until the clouds come over; then flatness of the contrast brings the less-taxed eye to bitty bracts of clover Feather-footed through the plashy fen passes the questing vole B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting J.C. O'Connell 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Brian That's not wrong, that's just slightly misguided. I really enjoyed my Sigma 180 macro on the *istD and K10D, now that was all sorts of wrong. Gave me nice pictures, though. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Chris. BTW, how did you catch 30 squid? G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 1 December 2012 14:18, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Hi Dan. I've got a Sigma 50mm 2.8 MF macro. Got it on Ebay for under 30 quid. I've mostly used it for copying 35mm slides on a light box and it does a good job of that - but I can't comment on bokeh. If you could get one at that sort of price, it would be worth a punt. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Quoting J.C. O'Connell 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Brian That's not wrong, that's just slightly misguided. I really enjoyed my Sigma 180 macro on the *istD and K10D, now that was all sorts of wrong. Gave me nice pictures, though. kris I have the Sigma 180 macro too. No complaints with it. -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Macro lenses are just like regular lenses in that there is no absolute right or wrong focal length, you need multiples. I have both 50mm and 105mm and I find 50mm works best for larger items like big flowers. 105mm is better for smaller items like insects and coins/stamps. You have to use the right tool. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of wendy beard Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Quoting J.C. O'Connell 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Brian That's not wrong, that's just slightly misguided. I really enjoyed my Sigma 180 macro on the *istD and K10D, now that was all sorts of wrong. Gave me nice pictures, though. kris I have the Sigma 180 macro too. No complaints with it. -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-12-01 7:18 Daniel J. Matyola wrote What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend my Sigma EX (non-DG) 105mm f/2.8 is a very nice lens, including for general purpose use, though it is more susceptible to flare than my Pentax lenses; i do mostly plant photos with it; it's not WR but i have spent hours with it in a strong drizzle, being careful (tucking it in my coat and keeping my hand over the body of the lens); at $100, it was an unusually good deal for me i also found an M42 Macro-Takumar 50/4 for something like $40; it produces great results, spending most of its time on my partner's Panasonic GH2 (where it is 100mm equiv.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Darren, that was quite helpful. Do you know how the FA 100mm 2.8 compares to the F and the D FA? And thanks to everyone who took the time and effort to give me advice on this question. I got exactly the response I was hoping for. This is just a great list. Ho I finally bit the bullet. I found a Pentax 100 F2.8 SMC FA MACRO Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: When someone says without getting too pricey it is hard to know what the means to them. Later in this thread the OP says that the DFA 100mm f2.8 would be good, so assuming that is not too pricey. If that's not too pricey, then I think that is your lens. For any Pentax lens, you can do some comparisons on the Pentax Photo Gallery. Just click the camera and lenses link in the upper right. You can select a lens without selecting a body. This will allow you to check the various perspective, bokeh, etc. Obviously, this will only work for Pentax lenses, but you can go way back to Takumars there, if you like. The DFA 100mm macro: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=lens=130 One option I'll throw out there for you, if you are considering popping for a DFA100 macro. You might want to also consider the Pentax-F 100mm f2.8 macro. It will cover full frame (obviously) if you hope for a future Pentax FF model or still shoot film on occasion. One reviewer who previously owned the DFA says the F is faster on the autofocus. ( http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-100mm-F2.8-Macro-Lens.html ) It also has a focus range limiter, which the DFA lacks (and some have missed). Best of all, when the are offered they usually go in the $400-500 range, which represents a significant savings over the DFA. (They aren't offered often, but one sold on that infernal auction site within the past 30 days for a $430 BIN.) I got mine for effectively free when I found a P-Z1 kit with multiple lenses, flash and accessories and sold off the other stuff to keep the F100. Due to life going to hell in a handbasket, I haven't gotten to use it much yet, but I'm glad to have it in my arsenal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doesn't Mark Roberts have this lens as well. I think he showed us pics from it as well. If i remember correctly, they were lovely. Cheers, Christine On Dec 3, 2012, at 10:35 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Quoting J.C. O'Connell 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Brian That's not wrong, that's just slightly misguided. I really enjoyed my Sigma 180 macro on the *istD and K10D, now that was all sorts of wrong. Gave me nice pictures, though. kris I have the Sigma 180 macro too. No complaints with it. -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine Aguila wrote: Doesn't Mark Roberts have this lens as well. I think he showed us pics from it as well. If i remember correctly, they were lovely. Cheers, Christine Yep. The Sigma 180/3.5 Macro is a brilliant lens. Probably my second most used lens for nature photography (after the DA*16-50/2.8). It's sharp, sharp, sharp and built like the proverbial tank. Also works extremely well as a telephoto at long distance (not all macro lenses work well at non-macro distances). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not quite compact nor cheap though, right? And hadn't we established that 90mm was already way too long? Where are you going with 180mm, Mark? You're doing it wrong, mate. Anything longer than 35mm for a macro lens is photographic suicide. Now that I got that off my chest, I'm off to bed. G'night! —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 3 December 2012 20:26, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: Doesn't Mark Roberts have this lens as well. I think he showed us pics from it as well. If i remember correctly, they were lovely. Cheers, Christine Yep. The Sigma 180/3.5 Macro is a brilliant lens. Probably my second most used lens for nature photography (after the DA*16-50/2.8). It's sharp, sharp, sharp and built like the proverbial tank. Also works extremely well as a telephoto at long distance (not all macro lenses work well at non-macro distances). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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there is no difference in performance, until the day after they get soaking wet. LOL! That is what I assumed, but when I assume, I make an ass of u and me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: How much of a difference is there (in performance) between the WR version and the standard version of the D FA 100mm macro? My understanding is that there is no difference in performance, until the day after they get soaking wet. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An aside on one of the joys of Pentax here ... I go to a weekly brunch with a group of local photographers. Recently one of them came in and said, You shoot Pentax don't you? When I answered affirmatively, he handed me a small box labeled: ASAHI PENTAX SMC CLOSE UP LENS 49mm S40 Still new in the box, complete. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I couldn't possibly tell as I have none of the two. I am certain that the likes of pbase.com or pixelpeeper.com will provide ample amount of images including some at full resolution. On 12/2/2012 7:25 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: How much of a difference is there (in performance) between the WR version and the standard version of the D FA 100mm macro? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is so frustratingly silly. Found the original message... It suddenly occurred to me, Dan, that you may have a good and solid excuse to buy into DFA 100/2.8 Macro WR lens and get yourself a proper outdoor macro kit in terms of WR. Though it is not cheap. But again, my vote would be for D-FA 50/2.8 macro - seems like it has many things from many worlds (aperture ring, FF coverage - can be used on film, very good image quality both in non-macro range, etc)... On 12/1/2012 4:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1 December 2012 14:18, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Hi Dan. I've got a Sigma 50mm 2.8 MF macro. Got it on Ebay for under 30 quid. I've mostly used it for copying 35mm slides on a light box and it does a good job of that - but I can't comment on bokeh. If you could get one at that sort of price, it would be worth a punt. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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When someone says without getting too pricey it is hard to know what the means to them. Later in this thread the OP says that the DFA 100mm f2.8 would be good, so assuming that is not too pricey. If that's not too pricey, then I think that is your lens. For any Pentax lens, you can do some comparisons on the Pentax Photo Gallery. Just click the camera and lenses link in the upper right. You can select a lens without selecting a body. This will allow you to check the various perspective, bokeh, etc. Obviously, this will only work for Pentax lenses, but you can go way back to Takumars there, if you like. The DFA 100mm macro: http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=lens=130 One option I'll throw out there for you, if you are considering popping for a DFA100 macro. You might want to also consider the Pentax-F 100mm f2.8 macro. It will cover full frame (obviously) if you hope for a future Pentax FF model or still shoot film on occasion. One reviewer who previously owned the DFA says the F is faster on the autofocus. ( http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-100mm-F2.8-Macro-Lens.html ) It also has a focus range limiter, which the DFA lacks (and some have missed). Best of all, when the are offered they usually go in the $400-500 range, which represents a significant savings over the DFA. (They aren't offered often, but one sold on that infernal auction site within the past 30 days for a $430 BIN.) I got mine for effectively free when I found a P-Z1 kit with multiple lenses, flash and accessories and sold off the other stuff to keep the F100. Due to life going to hell in a handbasket, I haven't gotten to use it much yet, but I'm glad to have it in my arsenal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not sure if its out of price range, but i bought the Pentax DA F 50 F2.8 about 3 years ago and i like it., Nice sharp images. My only nit is the locking clamp is not that secure but i never use it anyway. Dave On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like shooting macros. Of the three dedicated macro lenses I have, I find myself using the Sigma EX 70mm f/2.8 more. The others are the Vivitar Series 1 105 mm f/2.5 (beautiful, heavy, rather hard to stabilize well; and Pentax F 50mm f/2.8, which is at least as lovely). I hear/read good things for the Talron 90mm f/2.8 as well. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/12/1 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've experience with only the FA 100/2.8 macro. It's not a pretty beast, but I've always thought it delivered great results. Used they seem to be going for $350 -$500. In my mind, the advantages of a 100mm is you can be twice as far from your subject and still get the desired framing. Also the relatively large aperture is nice. It doubles as a sharp mid-range telephoto or portrait lens. There's one described as like new on eBay. Bidding is currently at $264. Several others also. I found my copy at a used lens counter. Few shots: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13295397 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502297 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502298 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502295 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502293 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4042765 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5092852 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4912137 Tom C. I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend I have run into the uncomfortable realization that focal length on a macro lens is as important in different situations as it is in a standard lens, and for the same reasons. Sometimes you want to include more of the background, sometimes you want to restrict the background. Sometimes you want maximum magnification from a distance, sometimes you want to include more of the subject, but don't have room to move the camera back. I have three lenses that I regularly use for macro and closeup work, my Sigma 20/1.8, Pentax DFA 50/2.8 and a Tamron 90/2.8. I choose which one to use based on focal length for that particular shot, rather than any other qualities of the lens. It generally works out to using the 90 for insects, and often the 20 or the 50 for flowers or mushrooms. If I were going out to buy a macro lens today, I'd probably pick up a Pentax 100/2.8 WR macro. If I were tight on money, I'd get a Raynox 150. I briefly had a Raynox 250, and it was too powerful for many of my shots. LRC -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree with Tom C. I don't shoot macro a lot so I chose the 100 f2.8 for a couple of reasons. It's a decent lens, of course, but the 100mm focal length on the crop sensor body lets me have a decent working distance between the camera and the subject. If you're going to do anything with supplemental lighting you need a bit of space that you won't have with a shorter focal length. It's also a good lens for general shooting when you want to use a longer focal length. I grew up with photography in the years when zooms were not so good, and the combination of a 35mm, 50mm, and 135mm lens was fairly common. The 100mm macro on the crop body has an angle of view that is just slightly tighter, but similar to my old 135mm lens. Here's an old post of a shot made with the 100 f/2.8. http://georges.posterous.com/blooming-at-sunrise#!/ gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I've experience with only the FA 100/2.8 macro. It's not a pretty beast, but I've always thought it delivered great results. Used they seem to be going for $350 -$500. In my mind, the advantages of a 100mm is you can be twice as far from your subject and still get the desired framing. Also the relatively large aperture is nice. It doubles as a sharp mid-range telephoto or portrait lens. There's one described as like new on eBay. Bidding is currently at $264. Several others also. I found my copy at a used lens counter. Few shots: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13295397 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502297 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502298 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502295 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502293 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4042765 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5092852 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4912137 Tom C. I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have used the the Pentax A100/2.8 Macro the most shooting film. Some time ago Mark Cassino convinced me to upgrade to the DFA100/2.8. Both work fine on the K-5 and manual focusing is no problem w/ Macros. Most every macro lens is very good. The manual focus old ones for film should be cheapest. The Pentax K100/4.0 Macro might be cheapest. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:39 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Tom C. I don't shoot macro a lot so I chose the 100 f2.8 for a couple of reasons. It's a decent lens, of course, but the 100mm focal length on the crop sensor body lets me have a decent working distance between the camera and the subject. If you're going to do anything with supplemental lighting you need a bit of space that you won't have with a shorter focal length. It's also a good lens for general shooting when you want to use a longer focal length. I grew up with photography in the years when zooms were not so good, and the combination of a 35mm, 50mm, and 135mm lens was fairly common. The 100mm macro on the crop body has an angle of view that is just slightly tighter, but similar to my old 135mm lens. Here's an old post of a shot made with the 100 f/2.8. http://georges.posterous.com/blooming-at-sunrise#!/ gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I've experience with only the FA 100/2.8 macro. It's not a pretty beast, but I've always thought it delivered great results. Used they seem to be going for $350 -$500. In my mind, the advantages of a 100mm is you can be twice as far from your subject and still get the desired framing. Also the relatively large aperture is nice. It doubles as a sharp mid-range telephoto or portrait lens. There's one described as like new on eBay. Bidding is currently at $264. Several others also. I found my copy at a used lens counter. Few shots: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13295397 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502297 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502298 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502295 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6502293 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4042765 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5092852 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4912137 Tom C. I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 01/12/2012 8:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend It used to be that any macro lens was a good lens, and to a great extent this still holds. The only caveat I would make is to stay away from the older Pentax macros that employ the FREE lens system (fixed rear element extension). My A100/2.8 macro is a gorgeous lens, but tends to get reflections off the flat rear element onto the sensor. I don't have experience with any of the third party macros at this point. I would bet that they are all very good lenses, I ended up buying a Pentax DFA100/2.8 Macro, and I am very happy with it, though interestingly, it must be only from looking through the viewfinder, because I Lightroom didn't pull up a single image taken with that lens. This is the curse I live under. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com: On 01/12/2012 8:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend It used to be that any macro lens was a good lens, and to a great extent this still holds. The only caveat I would make is to stay away from the older Pentax macros that employ the FREE lens system (fixed rear element extension). My A100/2.8 macro is a gorgeous lens, but tends to get reflections off the flat rear element onto the sensor. I don't have experience with any of the third party macros at this point. I would bet that they are all very good lenses, I ended up buying a Pentax DFA100/2.8 Macro, and I am very happy with it, though interestingly, it must be only from looking through the viewfinder, because I Lightroom didn't pull up a single image taken with that lens. This is the curse I live under. For years (decades, actually) I used the old Tamron 90mm f2.5 (adaptall lens), mainly for wildflower photography and it was my favourite lens. I recently upgraded to the current version (Tamron 90mm f2.8) mainly for autofocus as my eyesight isn't what it was. I haven't used it much to date but I expect it to be as good as the old version. Like Bill's experience with the Pentax A100/2.8, the old Tamron also suffered from reflections off the rear element but, interestingly, I never noticed until earlier this year (there was a thread about it on PDML back in April or thereabouts). The problem only occurred under specific light conditions and I never saw any evidence of it with my wildflower photography. I also have an old Takumar 50mm macro and a Konica Hexanon 55mm macro (which surprising can be used on Pentax DSLRs via a short extension tube) but I've found I prefer the greater working distance that the 90mm lens provides. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My one macro is the DA 35mm F:2.8 Ltd. It has served my very well. It's small, light, sharp, and makes a great general purpose. It doesn't have a focus stop so AF can be slow to resolve if it misses focus on the first try. I love it for plants and small objects, but I'd really want a 100mm or longer macro for insects. I've had no trouble getting light into where I need it using either a ring flash, some diffusion behind the object (white paper works), or bouncing light from some white foam core. On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I use my Pentax-A 50/2.8 macro almost exclusively these days. (It also covers all my cliché shots.) They run from $100 to $150. F/2.8 is reasonably fast. And the A is nice for DSLR use. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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ditto. they run a little higher though, more like $150-$225. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 4:33 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens I use my Pentax-A 50/2.8 macro almost exclusively these days. (It also covers all my cliché shots.) They run from $100 to $150. F/2.8 is reasonably fast. And the A is nice for DSLR use. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Depending on the type of work you want to do, I 'd go with either a 100mm or 50mm f2.8 macro. Personally I use a D-FA 100 f2.8 and find the results to be excellent. I have a Sigman 50mm f 2.8 that is also excellent. I also use an M 50 f4 macro from time to time. Type of work you want to do... For bugs longer focal length, fast manual focus and / or auto focus. I usually want close 1:1 to 1:2 magnification and to isolate the subject against the background. For flowers I usually shoot at a lower magnification and want a little more background in the shot, so a shorter focal length works out well. Some manual focus macro lenses trade off precision in focusing for focusing speed. I have a older Kiron 105mm f 2.8 (I believe the same lens as the Vivitar Series 1 f 2.5 (Kiron was the OEM for Vivitar)). I just checked it - the lens barrel rotates just under 2 complete rotations to go from infinity to 1:1. By contrast the D-FA requires just under one full rotation of the focusing collar to cover the same focusing range. One facilitates precision, the other speed. Lastly, I would not give the Kiron an unqualified recommendation. It works great with film and I've had good results with digital, but I've had some shots on DSLR's that have suffered from chromatic aberrations, fringing, whatever. If needed a 100mm macro, I would not get the Kiron for a DSLR. Mark On 12/1/2012 9:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some manual focus macro lenses trade off precision in focusing for focusing speed. I have a older Kiron 105mm f 2.8 (I believe the same lens as the Vivitar Series 1 f 2.5 (Kiron was the OEM for Vivitar)). I just checked it - the lens barrel rotates just under 2 complete rotations to go from infinity to 1:1. By contrast the D-FA requires just under one full rotation of the focusing collar to cover the same focusing range. One facilitates precision, the other speed. The local Cord Camera as a Kiron for $300. Pricey, but apparently highly regarded. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dan, did you ever consider extension tubes ? This would mean manual focus and you can use them with any lens that have a manual aperture setting. I understand the newer 35 mm Pentax macro is nice.I use a 60 mm manual focus and manual aperture screw mount lens with a screw mount to k mount adapter which in made by Yashica and is very very nice. Also as others have spoken about is the Pentax k mount 100mm F4.0 manual focus which is also nice, which I have. The 100 mm F2.8 A Pentax lens is an auto focus lens which I like and use sometimes. Also there is a Pentax 50 mm F2.8 A that is manual focus which I also use.The other one that I use is the 200 mm F4.0 A Pentax lens which is very very nice, but this is also manual focus..Dan hope this this gives you some help..Joe I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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warning - 100mm is best suited for very small items like insects or coins. its too long for larger items like general flowers and plants. Also, I would recommend manual focus lenses as manual focus seems to work best with macro and af lenses dont do mf that well. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't seem to be able to find the original message though I remember reading it... Getting senile, I may be... As for the question in hand. Galia's been using D-FA 50/2.8 macro as her standard lens with great success both for close up and regular photography. This lens seems to be pretty much ideal sans rather flimsy two-cam barrel design and somewhat slow maximal aperture. However for macro lens it is normal, as the likes of Zeiss 50/2.0 macro (or is it maKro ? :-) ) cost several times as much. Additionally, it is very sharp even wide open and the sharpness is uniform across the frame, so that whatever is missing in speed is compensated by Galia's K-5's sensor. If one wants to go really cheap I can totally recommend FA 100/3.5 macro. Galia has one and uses it occasionally with good results as well. It would be worth one's while to look for matching filter that makes it true 1:1 macro. It also suffers from rather plastic build, but optically it is really very good and rather inexpensive. Boris On 12/1/2012 11:32 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I use my Pentax-A 50/2.8 macro almost exclusively these days. (It also covers all my cliché shots.) They run from $100 to $150. F/2.8 is reasonably fast. And the A is nice for DSLR use. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: warning - 100mm is best suited for very small items like insects or coins. its too long for larger items like general flowers and plants. Also, I would recommend manual focus lenses as manual focus seems to work best with macro and af lenses dont do mf that well. That's not my experience. I find my 90mm macro just about perfect for wildflower photography and for many years in the 70s and 80s that was about the only photography I did. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It is so frustratingly silly. Found the original message... It suddenly occurred to me, Dan, that you may have a good and solid excuse to buy into DFA 100/2.8 Macro WR lens and get yourself a proper outdoor macro kit in terms of WR. Though it is not cheap. But again, my vote would be for D-FA 50/2.8 macro - seems like it has many things from many worlds (aperture ring, FF coverage - can be used on film, very good image quality both in non-macro range, etc)... On 12/1/2012 4:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How much of a difference is there (in performance) between the WR version and the standard version of the D FA 100mm macro? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is so frustratingly silly. Found the original message... It suddenly occurred to me, Dan, that you may have a good and solid excuse to buy into DFA 100/2.8 Macro WR lens and get yourself a proper outdoor macro kit in terms of WR. Though it is not cheap. But again, my vote would be for D-FA 50/2.8 macro - seems like it has many things from many worlds (aperture ring, FF coverage - can be used on film, very good image quality both in non-macro range, etc)... On 12/1/2012 4:18 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I want a versatile macro lens for my K-r, that would be suitable when eventually I upgrade to a K-5 series or whatever comes along. Without getting too exotic or pricey, I would like fairly wide max aperture and good bokeh. I would use it mostly to shoot flowers, butterflies and the like. If it could take decent images outside the macro range as well, that would be a plus. What are others using? What moderately price lens would you recommend TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: How much of a difference is there (in performance) between the WR version and the standard version of the D FA 100mm macro? My understanding is that there is no difference in performance, until the day after they get soaking wet. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: warning - 100mm is best suited for very small items like insects or coins. its too long for larger items like general flowers and plants. Also, I would recommend manual focus lenses as manual focus seems to work best with macro and af lenses dont do mf that well. That's not my experience. I find my 90mm macro just about perfect for wildflower photography and for many years in the 70s and 80s that was about the only photography I did. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: warning - 100mm is best suited for very small items like insects or coins. its too long for larger items like general flowers and plants. Also, I would recommend manual focus lenses as manual focus seems to work best with macro and af lenses dont do mf that well. That's not my experience. I find my 90mm macro just about perfect for wildflower photography and for many years in the 70s and 80s that was about the only photography I did. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Im not saying it cant be done, but in MY experience, its too tight when using 100mm for larger items. There is a lack of background and flattening of perspective I don't like with 100mm either. Even a 50mm works out to a 75mm equiv which is still slightly flattening. There is also the practical aspect of having to back away too much with a 100mm. Sometimes I use my free hand/arm to stabilize the branch the flower is on and if you use 100mm you may be out of arms reach, which you're not if your closer with a 50mm. To each his own technique I guess - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: warning - 100mm is best suited for very small items like insects or coins. its too long for larger items like general flowers and plants. Also, I would recommend manual focus lenses as manual focus seems to work best with macro and af lenses dont do mf that well. That's not my experience. I find my 90mm macro just about perfect for wildflower photography and for many years in the 70s and 80s that was about the only photography I did. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: Im not saying it cant be done, but in MY experience, its too tight when using 100mm for larger items. There is a lack of background and flattening of perspective I don't like with 100mm either. Even a 50mm works out to a 75mm equiv which is still slightly flattening. There is also the practical aspect of having to back away too much with a 100mm. Sometimes I use my free hand/arm to stabilize the branch the flower is on and if you use 100mm you may be out of arms reach, which you're not if your closer with a 50mm. To each his own technique I guess Fair enough. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: 90mm would be fine on 35mm film but on a pentax aps-c dslr its too long Well I've been using it for the last 7 years on APS-C but obviously I've been wrong. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:41 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: warning - 100mm is best suited for very small items like insects or coins. its too long for larger items like general flowers and plants. Also, I would recommend manual focus lenses as manual focus seems to work best with macro and af lenses dont do mf that well. That's not my experience. I find my 90mm macro just about perfect for wildflower photography and for many years in the 70s and 80s that was about the only photography I did. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Selection of Macro Lens Thanks, William, Brian, Bruce, Collin, JC, Mark and Joe, for your interesting and very informative posts. I think I am leaning towards the Pentax D FA 100mm 2.8, but still thinking about it. Joe, I did quite a bit of work with extension tube when I used only my Asahi Spotmatic and my Honeywell Spotmatic. It was actually quite a bit of fun. I don't have either the eyesight or the patience to go back to extension tubes at this point in my life, however.. I think I need autofocus to get in the ball park before final adjustment in manual focus mode. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I use my SMC Pentax-A 50mm F2.8 almost exclusively for product photography (ebay) and results are excellent. Highly recommended for that usage. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
