Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
mike wilson wrote: > > Hi, > > > For information: an article in (UK) Amateur Photographer some > years ago showed that this was a crop, as were some of his other > works. I imagine I knew that at one time :) > > Note: I am _not_ belittling HCB's skill as a photographer - I > _am_ somewhat sceptical about the promotional circus that has > evolved around his work. > > mike > - As with Adams. The music goes round and round. ann > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 24 Apr 2002 at 5:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 24/04/02 05:33:44 GMT Daylight Time, Rob writes: > > << All their R > glass > is over sized and overweight IMHO. The Leica R glass performs admirably but no > better than the good Pentax glass from my experience. >> > > I have a 135mm F2.8 here, in "R". Tipping the scales at only 720 grammes. > What's the weight on an 85 1.4 A*, Rob? Hi Peter, My scales put the A*85/1.4 at 559gm A*135f1.8 at 878gm, the K135f2.5 at 504gm and the Leica-M 90f2 APO ASPH at 480gm. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Bring back the SMC Takumar 50/1.4 (was: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson)
Rob Studdert wrote: The Leica R glass performs admirably but no better than the good Pentax glass from my experience. Several list members have remarked that the final one or two 50/1.4 Takumars were arguably the sharpest/best normal nonmacro lens ever made. Why didn't Pentax stick with this winning formula when it introduced the K mount? Why not bring out a PKA or FA version now and reclaim the title? [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Hear! Hear! Lukasz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson Hi, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > I think that is the essence of excellent photojournalism, actually. > The photo of Bresson's that leaps into my mind first as being all those > things is the one where a man is is leaping above a flooded street and > one foot is every so slightly above the water... that is a gross oversimplification > of what is happening, but one millisecond sooner or later and it would > not be such a stunning picture. For information: an article in (UK) Amateur Photographer some years ago showed that this was a crop, as were some of his other works. I don't have any problem with that but it does somewhat explode the myth about HCB's skill in fitting all the parameters he (wanted/believed in) into the complete negative. Note: I am _not_ belittling HCB's skill as a photographer - I _am_ somewhat sceptical about the promotional circus that has evolved around his work. mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Hi, When i saw his exhibition from memory all the shots i saw had the sprocket holes on the end of frame actualy on the print. Not saying all his shots were like this, just the ones i saw. Regards, Paul - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson > Hi, > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > I think that is the essence of excellent photojournalism, actually. > > The photo of Bresson's that leaps into my mind first as being all those > > things is the one where a man is is leaping above a flooded street and > > one foot is every so slightly above the water... that is a gross oversimplification > > of what is happening, but one millisecond sooner or later and it would > > not be such a stunning picture. > > For information: an article in (UK) Amateur Photographer some > years ago showed that this was a crop, as were some of his other > works. I don't have any problem with that but it does somewhat > explode the myth about HCB's skill in fitting all the parameters > he (wanted/believed in) into the complete negative. > > Note: I am _not_ belittling HCB's skill as a photographer - I > _am_ somewhat sceptical about the promotional circus that has > evolved around his work. > > mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Why, the Pentax of course! :) Collin ** From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Which Ms are better? Pentax M lenses or Leica M lenses? Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > Perhaps. But are the lenses really that good? > I'll bet the M's are better! -- Collin Brendemuehl, KC8TKA --- "Get over it." Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
In a message dated 4/23/2002 10:28:12 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Which Ms are better? Pentax M lenses or Leica M lenses? > For me, the Pentax ... I don't have a camera that takes the Leica ones. ;-) ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Which Ms are better? Pentax M lenses or Leica M lenses? Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > > Perhaps. But are the lenses really that good? > I'll bet the M's are better! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
He drove me nuts in the Adams documentary with his pedantic, pontification. I did like the quote of HCB, regarding Adams and Weston, "The world is going to hell, and they're taking pictures of rocks and trees." From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Annsan sez I think Szarkowski loves his own rhetoric too much. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 23 Apr 2002 at 20:37, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Perhaps. But are the lenses really that good? > I'll bet the M's are better! Hi Collin, Having owned Leica R gear and owning Leica M and Pentax SLR equipment I wouldn't hesitate to say that I think that the Pentax 35mm SLRs complement the Leica M cameras and lenses far better than the Leica R range. Leica M lenses are well known for their low weight per FL vs max aperture whereas the Leica SLR 50f2R lens is one of the biggest 50mm lenses that I have seen. All their R glass is over sized and overweight IMHO. The Leica R glass performs admirably but no better than the good Pentax glass from my experience. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Perhaps. But are the lenses really that good? I'll bet the M's are better! Collin At 07:56 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote: >Subject: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson > >...Or, the number of folks who ~wish~ they had a Leica, Shel! > >I think drooling over Leicas is fair game, even on a Pentax mail list. At >least >it's a camera that has no equivalent in the Pentax line. A completely >different >animal... > >regards, >frank * KC8TKA --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
...Or, the number of folks who ~wish~ they had a Leica, Shel! I think drooling over Leicas is fair game, even on a Pentax mail list. At least it's a camera that has no equivalent in the Pentax line. A completely different animal... regards, frank Shel Belinkoff wrote: > You might be surprised by the number of Leica users here. > > Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote: > > > > I ... recently made a mistake of looking through a Leica > > viewfinder and firing the shutter. Well - at first I wasn't even sure > > whether it actually fired (sooo quiet and vibration free). > > Enough already - it's a Pentax list and I guess it should be prohibited to > > drool over other maker's cameras (on PDML that is ;). > > -- -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
That's because you were on the Leica lists. The Leica "users" all hang out here, because it is more interesting. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > You might be surprised by the number of Leica users here. > > "Leica user"? Judging strictly from the Leica discussion lists, I was under the impression that that was an oxymoron. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Shel Belinkoff wrote: You might be surprised by the number of Leica users here. "Leica user"? Judging strictly from the Leica discussion lists, I was under the impression that that was an oxymoron. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Neither can we! Alan > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:19 PM > To: Pentax List > Subject: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > Why would Henri Cartier-Bresson make a lousy farmer? > > > > > > Cos he hated crops. > > > D'oh. I can't belive I wrote that. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
You might be surprised by the number of Leica users here. Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote: > > I ... recently made a mistake of looking through a Leica > viewfinder and firing the shutter. Well - at first I wasn't even sure > whether it actually fired (sooo quiet and vibration free). > Enough already - it's a Pentax list and I guess it should be prohibited to > drool over other maker's cameras (on PDML that is ;). -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Well up till now I was only interested in landscapes (J.Cornish/A.Adams). Alan > > Just bought HC-B 'Masters of Photography' book. > > I never thought much of HC-B's work until now. > > My gosh, what had you seen before? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
"A propos de Paris" Alan Abbott wrote: > > Just bought HC-B 'Masters of Photography' book. > I never thought much of HC-B's work until now. > I am impressed. > Does anyone know of any other good examples of his work? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
But he was "Out standing in his field". Sorry, lousy farmer joke. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson > Why would Henri Cartier-Bresson make a lousy farmer? > > > > > > Cos he hated crops. > > > D'oh. I can't belive I wrote that. > > ___ > Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Check out the UK Macintosh ads > http://www.macads.co.uk > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Henri Cartier-Bresson
Why would Henri Cartier-Bresson make a lousy farmer? Cos he hated crops. D'oh. I can't belive I wrote that. ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
