Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Steve Cottrell]

Four :-)



> On 26 Jun 2023, at 21:29, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> So it’s true what they say, you do have a splinter of ice in your heart…


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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Steve Cottrell]

Ah sorry I must have missed that bit!

Cot

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 21:27, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> The initial repair / refurb came with a 3-month warranty. 


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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 26.06.23 um 22:11 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


You had a Pentax MX fixed *under warranty* ?? How does that work?!


I suppose Bob had a warranty on a recent repair. One of the advantages
of living in the EU.

That notwithstanding, if you buy a used camera from a professional
dealer in the EU he has to grant a warranty as well.

SCNR
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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Bob W PDML]

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 22:12, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks and yes on the mend. Cryo-ablation went smoothly and so far so good….

So it’s true what they say, you do have a splinter of ice in your heart…

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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Bob W PDML]

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 22:12, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Bob
> 
> You had a Pentax MX fixed *under warranty* ?? How does that work?!

The initial repair / refurb came with a 3-month warranty. 

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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Steve Cottrell]

Bob

You had a Pentax MX fixed *under warranty* ?? How does that work?!

Stef can test it, he should be old enough now :-) He has a Bronnie kit!

Thanks and yes on the mend. Cryo-ablation went smoothly and so far so good….

Cot



> On 26 Jun 2023, at 19:42, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
>  which I had fixed under warranty. 
> 
> Anyway, the moral is, don’t believe anything until you’ve film-tested it!
> 
> Good luck! I guess your recent procedure has been a success, and I hope the 
> MX surgery is successful too, lovely cameras. 


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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Bob W PDML]

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 21:18, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 26.06.23 um 20:42 schrieb Bob W PDML:
>> ...until I got the first roll of film back, which very clearly showed 
>> significant shutter lag.
> 
> So, that's what it's called. Just copied it into my vocabulary book. ;-)

You’re welcome.

> 
>> I hope the MX surgery is successful too, lovely cameras.
> 
> Indeed. I had a LX and a MX, at one time. Much preferred the MX because
> of it's smaller size.

I now have an LX too. I like them as well. I had three at one time in the 90s.

> 
> Still had to give it up because I need a +1 diopter correction for the
> viewfinder since I've got my first varifocal glasses. Seems quite odd as
> nobody else does. Have been discussing this with a lot of people,
> incuding the optical engineers at Zeiss, Rodenstock and Essilor, but
> noone has been able to explain this.

I use varifocals, but when I’m taking pictures I take them off. 

I have the diopter in the LX finder cranked up to its maximum of +1, which is 
fine. 

I have +1.5 diopter things for my Leica Ms; the Barnack Leica has an adjuster 
built in. 

I have a Pentax viewfinder correction attachment which I use on the MX, which I 
swap between it and a P30 that I have.

My LUMIX GX8s have a dial that sets the diopter correction.

The only camera I have which I can’t correct is a Minolta Hi-matic 7s that I 
bought a few weeks ago. I’m still waiting for the first film to come back so if 
they’re all out of focus I won’t know if it’s my fault or the camera’s!


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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 26.06.23 um 20:42 schrieb Bob W PDML:

...until I got the first roll of film back, which very clearly showed 
significant shutter lag.


So, that's what it's called. Just copied it into my vocabulary book. ;-)


I hope the MX surgery is successful too, lovely cameras.


Indeed. I had a LX and a MX, at one time. Much preferred the MX because
of it's smaller size.

Still had to give it up because I need a +1 diopter correction for the
viewfinder since I've got my first varifocal glasses. Seems quite odd as
nobody else does. Have been discussing this with a lot of people,
incuding the optical engineers at Zeiss, Rodenstock and Essilor, but
noone has been able to explain this.

Ralf

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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Bob W PDML]

I think it would still be a good idea to put a roll of film through. You seem 
to be where I was last year with my MX, which I bought new in 79/80. 

I resuscitated it last year and all seemed well, not even a sticking mirror, 
until I got the first roll of film back, which very clearly showed significant 
shutter lag. I had it serviced, including mirror foam replacement, but after 
two or three more rolls there was still a bit of a problem with the shutter, 
which I had fixed under warranty. 

Anyway, the moral is, don’t believe anything until you’ve film-tested it!

Good luck! I guess your recent procedure has been a success, and I hope the MX 
surgery is successful too, lovely cameras. 

> On 26 Jun 2023, at 20:26, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ralph,
> 
> The shutter times seem accurate, certainly at the slower speeds. The shutter 
> curtains appear to be playing ball! I have no way of checking the faster 
> times and it’s not worth sending it off for that to be done. The true test 
> can be with a roll of film.
> 
> This MX is my very first Pentax bought new in 1981 and only ever used by me. 
> Stopped using it regularly in 2003 so it has sat for 20 years in the warm and 
> dry on a shelf over my desk. I rattle off a few shutter firings every once in 
> a while, so I’ve no reason to think that it’s misbehaving. The mirror foam is 
> still there and performing its function. If iut hasn’t been fired in a while 
> the mirror sticks up on the first couple of shots, then it’s fine. I’m just 
> making sure it will last another 20 years - although my son knows that I want 
> to be buried with it, so he’ll have to give it back one day - although I’ll 
> never know!! :-0
> 
> Cot
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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Steve Cottrell]

Thanks Ralph,

The shutter times seem accurate, certainly at the slower speeds. The shutter 
curtains appear to be playing ball! I have no way of checking the faster times 
and it’s not worth sending it off for that to be done. The true test can be 
with a roll of film.

This MX is my very first Pentax bought new in 1981 and only ever used by me. 
Stopped using it regularly in 2003 so it has sat for 20 years in the warm and 
dry on a shelf over my desk. I rattle off a few shutter firings every once in a 
while, so I’ve no reason to think that it’s misbehaving. The mirror foam is 
still there and performing its function. If iut hasn’t been fired in a while 
the mirror sticks up on the first couple of shots, then it’s fine. I’m just 
making sure it will last another 20 years - although my son knows that I want 
to be buried with it, so he’ll have to give it back one day - although I’ll 
never know!! :-0

Cot



> On 26 Jun 2023, at 16:40, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Before you start working on that camera: have you checked the shutter?
> The MX's shutter curtains have a tendency to play tag when they get old,
> resulting in somewhat different exposure across the frame.
> 
> Not something you could easily repair yourself.


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Re: MX Mirror Foam Replacement

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 26.06.23 um 16:46 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


Any pointers welcome thanks.


Before you start working on that camera: have you checked the shutter?
The MX's shutter curtains have a tendency to play tag when they get old,
resulting in somewhat different exposure across the frame.

Not something you could easily repair yourself.

Ralf

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Re: MX memories

[Henk Terhell]

Though I have a winder for the MX I never used it. For me the fun of the MX
was its size and I used it a lot with a 50 mm lens on hiking. The size and
weight gave it a feeling of a solid metal construction.
I still own two MX bodies.

Henk

Op wo 1 dec. 2021 om 21:28 schreef John Francis :

> I'm just beginning the process of tracking down all the assorted
> bits of Pentax K-mount equipment I've got spread around the house
> (or out on loan :-); the next stage will be deciding what to keep.
>
> But while doing that I picked up an MX body for the first time in
> many years, and was struck by just how heavy it felt for its size.
> Without the power winder it weighs a little over a pound (495g);
> if you add the winder it's 1.76lb (800g).
> Even without the winder that's heavier than any of the MZ-series
> bodies except the MZ-S, although being a little smaller than them.
>
> With the winder (which is how I almost always used mine; the film
> advance lever of an SLR is hard to use with a camera up to your
> eye if you are left-eyed and wear eyeglasses) it's heavier than
> any of the K-series digital bodies except the K-1 (or K3-iii!).
>
> One benefit of digging through the various boxes is that I've
> at last found the folder of internal filters for the 250-600;
> I'd obviously set them aside "somewhere safe" to avoid losing
> them when I was dragging that lens around from track to track.
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Re: MX-1

[Toine]

Thanks!
Nowadays I carry the KP with one lens (100mm macro or 55-300 or
60-250) and the Q-S1 with one lens (08). or two Q's, The MX-1 doesn't
see much use except when travelling ultra light.

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 23:37, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:04 PM Toine  wrote:
>
> > Yes nothing wrong with reuse or rebranding. Many times I shoot with
> > the Q without using the lcd screen.
> >
>
> BTW Toine, I think your website and photos are excellent. Is the Q your
> main camera?
>
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Re: MX-1

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Hola Juan,

I reviewed this camera back in 2013, when I was collaborating with in my 
friend's website Teknofilo. It was fun but I didn't have the time needed to do 
it properly. He had and has continued running the site successfully focused in 
smartphones.

Anyway, here is the review. In Spanish I am afraid (for the rest, not for you ! 
)
https://www.teknofilo.com/pentax-mx-1/

Regards,
Jaume



En domingo, 27 de octubre de 2019 20:25:12 CET, Juan Buhler 
 escribió: 





I wanted to start a thread on this little gem of a camera. From what I see
in the list over the years (Gmail keeps everything!), the styling and
perceived limitations were made fun of a little, then some people posted
some images made with it, and that's all I found.

What I don't see is any acknowledgment of the fact that this is a
delightful camera to use. I do think the design and materials contribute to
this, there's a tactile quality to it, plus the tiltable screen, which is
plenty big and sharp even in 2019, and the usual great Pentax feature set
and menus, make it just that: a pleasure to shoot with.

The weird choice of painted brass and the whole "will acquire patina"
thing, I take almost as a sarcastic commentary on planned obsolescence.
Probably unintentional, but interesting commentary in any case. Plus is yet
another instance of a camera company that could only be described as
"quirky". Think about it: They brought us the K-01, the Q series, the MX-1.
They were making non-pro DSLRs with weather sealing and IS back in 2006.
They make a lens series that is all metal, like it's 1965 or something.
Their acquisition by Ricoh is a perfect marriage: the company that makes
the GR series, made the GXR and other weird cameras like those is a great
match. Hey if you want great AF and new cameras every three weeks go get a
Sony or Canon, those are not going away anyway. I am glad there's someone
seemingly experimenting and making cool stuff.

Back to the MX-1: I love this camera. Yes it would be great to have a hot
shoe, I've been thinking I might tastefully epoxy one to mine. If Pentax
were to make an MX-2, with a similar body and features and a 20MP 1"
sensor, I would be all over it.

While I wait for my patina to develop, I leave you with this really nice
2019 review of the MX-1. Check out that guy's channel too, he likes his
Pentaxes.

https://youtu.be/cRgQndjM1rQ?t=57

j

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Re: MX-1

[Juan Buhler]

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 3:04 PM Toine  wrote:

> Yes nothing wrong with reuse or rebranding. Many times I shoot with
> the Q without using the lcd screen.
>

BTW Toine, I think your website and photos are excellent. Is the Q your
main camera?

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Re: MX-1

[Juan Buhler]

He has a series of videos titled "cheap camera review".

It's cheap(er) nowadays, for what it is. The fact that it's keeping its
price so well should be indicative of how good a camera it really is.
Compare it with the Canon G15, from about the same time. The Pentax was a
bit more expensive when they were new, now you can find a G15 on ebay for
$150.

I personally wish I had gotten the MX-1 instead of the G15, which I bought
new in 2013. I did take some great photos with that, but it's only a
decent, perfectly performing camera. Not an awesome little gem like the
Pentax is.

You make a good point regarding the price comparison vs a K3. I gave my K3
to my nephew, now I have a KP that I barely use because the Sony A6500 has
better everything for my case (electronic shutter you can use while using
the VF, better autofocusing, it's smaller and lighter) and to enjoy my
manual Pentax lenses I have the A7ii. So if I had to choose just one camera
then sure, the MX-1 might not make that list (the GR II would be that one
camera btw) but hey.

Yes, I have too many cameras. Help.

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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 1:30 PM P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> He calls it a cheap camera review.   I think it would have been subject
> to less derision if it had actually been inexpensive.   I also think
> that it would have been more valuable if it could accept an external EVF
> that it shared with the Q series cameras thus making it part of a
> system, among other things.   If I still had some money to burn, but
> then again you can pick up a EX K-3 from KEH.com for about what Amazon
> has a MX-1 listed for.
>
> On 10/27/2019 3:24 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
> > I wanted to start a thread on this little gem of a camera. From what I
> see
> > in the list over the years (Gmail keeps everything!), the styling and
> > perceived limitations were made fun of a little, then some people posted
> > some images made with it, and that's all I found.
> >
> > What I don't see is any acknowledgment of the fact that this is a
> > delightful camera to use. I do think the design and materials contribute
> to
> > this, there's a tactile quality to it, plus the tiltable screen, which is
> > plenty big and sharp even in 2019, and the usual great Pentax feature set
> > and menus, make it just that: a pleasure to shoot with.
> >
> > The weird choice of painted brass and the whole "will acquire patina"
> > thing, I take almost as a sarcastic commentary on planned obsolescence.
> > Probably unintentional, but interesting commentary in any case. Plus is
> yet
> > another instance of a camera company that could only be described as
> > "quirky". Think about it: They brought us the K-01, the Q series, the
> MX-1.
> > They were making non-pro DSLRs with weather sealing and IS back in 2006.
> > They make a lens series that is all metal, like it's 1965 or something.
> > Their acquisition by Ricoh is a perfect marriage: the company that makes
> > the GR series, made the GXR and other weird cameras like those is a great
> > match. Hey if you want great AF and new cameras every three weeks go get
> a
> > Sony or Canon, those are not going away anyway. I am glad there's someone
> > seemingly experimenting and making cool stuff.
> >
> > Back to the MX-1: I love this camera. Yes it would be great to have a hot
> > shoe, I've been thinking I might tastefully epoxy one to mine. If Pentax
> > were to make an MX-2, with a similar body and features and a 20MP 1"
> > sensor, I would be all over it.
> >
> > While I wait for my patina to develop, I leave you with this really nice
> > 2019 review of the MX-1. Check out that guy's channel too, he likes his
> > Pentaxes.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/cRgQndjM1rQ?t=57
> >
> > j
> >
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Re: MX-1

[Toine]

Yes nothing wrong with reuse or rebranding. Many times I shoot with
the Q without using the lcd screen.

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 22:53, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>
> Olympus XZ-2. I've seen that "rebranded" claim over and over, but never any
> hard proof abut it, I guess other than the fact that the Olympus came a few
> months before the Pentax. Might well be that the lens and other electronics
> were initially designed by a third party provider, as it is often the case.
> Still, the MX-1 has SMC coating, Pentax menus, shots DNG, etc. If that's
> going to be the case, I hope they rebrand a lot more cameras in the future!
> :)
>
> I like the Q7 a lot, but I prefer making photos with the MX-1. Q7 might be
> too small, plus the screen is fixed...
>
> j
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> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 1:11 PM Toine  wrote:
>
> > The MX-1 is a rebranded Olympus or panasonic. I forgot which one.
> > dpreview has a review of both. I think some Q lenses are also
> > rebranded non pentax design.
> > The solution to changing lenses on a Q is two Q's. My Q-S1 is glued to
> > the 08 and my Q7 to the 06 or 01. Even 2 Q's fit in the smallest bag.
> > I almost stopped using DSLRs until I got the KP mainly because it has
> > a similar tilting screen as the MX-1.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 20:25, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> > >
> > > I wanted to start a thread on this little gem of a camera. From what I
> > see
> > > in the list over the years (Gmail keeps everything!), the styling and
> > > perceived limitations were made fun of a little, then some people posted
> > > some images made with it, and that's all I found.
> > >
> > > What I don't see is any acknowledgment of the fact that this is a
> > > delightful camera to use. I do think the design and materials contribute
> > to
> > > this, there's a tactile quality to it, plus the tiltable screen, which is
> > > plenty big and sharp even in 2019, and the usual great Pentax feature set
> > > and menus, make it just that: a pleasure to shoot with.
> > >
> > > The weird choice of painted brass and the whole "will acquire patina"
> > > thing, I take almost as a sarcastic commentary on planned obsolescence.
> > > Probably unintentional, but interesting commentary in any case. Plus is
> > yet
> > > another instance of a camera company that could only be described as
> > > "quirky". Think about it: They brought us the K-01, the Q series, the
> > MX-1.
> > > They were making non-pro DSLRs with weather sealing and IS back in 2006.
> > > They make a lens series that is all metal, like it's 1965 or something.
> > > Their acquisition by Ricoh is a perfect marriage: the company that makes
> > > the GR series, made the GXR and other weird cameras like those is a great
> > > match. Hey if you want great AF and new cameras every three weeks go get
> > a
> > > Sony or Canon, those are not going away anyway. I am glad there's someone
> > > seemingly experimenting and making cool stuff.
> > >
> > > Back to the MX-1: I love this camera. Yes it would be great to have a hot
> > > shoe, I've been thinking I might tastefully epoxy one to mine. If Pentax
> > > were to make an MX-2, with a similar body and features and a 20MP 1"
> > > sensor, I would be all over it.
> > >
> > > While I wait for my patina to develop, I leave you with this really nice
> > > 2019 review of the MX-1. Check out that guy's channel too, he likes his
> > > Pentaxes.
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/cRgQndjM1rQ?t=57
> > >
> > > j
> > >
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Re: MX-1

[Juan Buhler]

Olympus XZ-2. I've seen that "rebranded" claim over and over, but never any
hard proof abut it, I guess other than the fact that the Olympus came a few
months before the Pentax. Might well be that the lens and other electronics
were initially designed by a third party provider, as it is often the case.
Still, the MX-1 has SMC coating, Pentax menus, shots DNG, etc. If that's
going to be the case, I hope they rebrand a lot more cameras in the future!
:)

I like the Q7 a lot, but I prefer making photos with the MX-1. Q7 might be
too small, plus the screen is fixed...

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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 1:11 PM Toine  wrote:

> The MX-1 is a rebranded Olympus or panasonic. I forgot which one.
> dpreview has a review of both. I think some Q lenses are also
> rebranded non pentax design.
> The solution to changing lenses on a Q is two Q's. My Q-S1 is glued to
> the 08 and my Q7 to the 06 or 01. Even 2 Q's fit in the smallest bag.
> I almost stopped using DSLRs until I got the KP mainly because it has
> a similar tilting screen as the MX-1.
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 20:25, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> >
> > I wanted to start a thread on this little gem of a camera. From what I
> see
> > in the list over the years (Gmail keeps everything!), the styling and
> > perceived limitations were made fun of a little, then some people posted
> > some images made with it, and that's all I found.
> >
> > What I don't see is any acknowledgment of the fact that this is a
> > delightful camera to use. I do think the design and materials contribute
> to
> > this, there's a tactile quality to it, plus the tiltable screen, which is
> > plenty big and sharp even in 2019, and the usual great Pentax feature set
> > and menus, make it just that: a pleasure to shoot with.
> >
> > The weird choice of painted brass and the whole "will acquire patina"
> > thing, I take almost as a sarcastic commentary on planned obsolescence.
> > Probably unintentional, but interesting commentary in any case. Plus is
> yet
> > another instance of a camera company that could only be described as
> > "quirky". Think about it: They brought us the K-01, the Q series, the
> MX-1.
> > They were making non-pro DSLRs with weather sealing and IS back in 2006.
> > They make a lens series that is all metal, like it's 1965 or something.
> > Their acquisition by Ricoh is a perfect marriage: the company that makes
> > the GR series, made the GXR and other weird cameras like those is a great
> > match. Hey if you want great AF and new cameras every three weeks go get
> a
> > Sony or Canon, those are not going away anyway. I am glad there's someone
> > seemingly experimenting and making cool stuff.
> >
> > Back to the MX-1: I love this camera. Yes it would be great to have a hot
> > shoe, I've been thinking I might tastefully epoxy one to mine. If Pentax
> > were to make an MX-2, with a similar body and features and a 20MP 1"
> > sensor, I would be all over it.
> >
> > While I wait for my patina to develop, I leave you with this really nice
> > 2019 review of the MX-1. Check out that guy's channel too, he likes his
> > Pentaxes.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/cRgQndjM1rQ?t=57
> >
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Re: MX-1

[P. J. Alling]

He calls it a cheap camera review.   I think it would have been subject 
to less derision if it had actually been inexpensive.   I also think 
that it would have been more valuable if it could accept an external EVF 
that it shared with the Q series cameras thus making it part of a 
system, among other things.   If I still had some money to burn, but 
then again you can pick up a EX K-3 from KEH.com for about what Amazon 
has a MX-1 listed for.


On 10/27/2019 3:24 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

I wanted to start a thread on this little gem of a camera. From what I see
in the list over the years (Gmail keeps everything!), the styling and
perceived limitations were made fun of a little, then some people posted
some images made with it, and that's all I found.

What I don't see is any acknowledgment of the fact that this is a
delightful camera to use. I do think the design and materials contribute to
this, there's a tactile quality to it, plus the tiltable screen, which is
plenty big and sharp even in 2019, and the usual great Pentax feature set
and menus, make it just that: a pleasure to shoot with.

The weird choice of painted brass and the whole "will acquire patina"
thing, I take almost as a sarcastic commentary on planned obsolescence.
Probably unintentional, but interesting commentary in any case. Plus is yet
another instance of a camera company that could only be described as
"quirky". Think about it: They brought us the K-01, the Q series, the MX-1.
They were making non-pro DSLRs with weather sealing and IS back in 2006.
They make a lens series that is all metal, like it's 1965 or something.
Their acquisition by Ricoh is a perfect marriage: the company that makes
the GR series, made the GXR and other weird cameras like those is a great
match. Hey if you want great AF and new cameras every three weeks go get a
Sony or Canon, those are not going away anyway. I am glad there's someone
seemingly experimenting and making cool stuff.

Back to the MX-1: I love this camera. Yes it would be great to have a hot
shoe, I've been thinking I might tastefully epoxy one to mine. If Pentax
were to make an MX-2, with a similar body and features and a 20MP 1"
sensor, I would be all over it.

While I wait for my patina to develop, I leave you with this really nice
2019 review of the MX-1. Check out that guy's channel too, he likes his
Pentaxes.

https://youtu.be/cRgQndjM1rQ?t=57

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Re: MX-1

[Toine]

The MX-1 is a rebranded Olympus or panasonic. I forgot which one.
dpreview has a review of both. I think some Q lenses are also
rebranded non pentax design.
The solution to changing lenses on a Q is two Q's. My Q-S1 is glued to
the 08 and my Q7 to the 06 or 01. Even 2 Q's fit in the smallest bag.
I almost stopped using DSLRs until I got the KP mainly because it has
a similar tilting screen as the MX-1.


On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 20:25, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>
> I wanted to start a thread on this little gem of a camera. From what I see
> in the list over the years (Gmail keeps everything!), the styling and
> perceived limitations were made fun of a little, then some people posted
> some images made with it, and that's all I found.
>
> What I don't see is any acknowledgment of the fact that this is a
> delightful camera to use. I do think the design and materials contribute to
> this, there's a tactile quality to it, plus the tiltable screen, which is
> plenty big and sharp even in 2019, and the usual great Pentax feature set
> and menus, make it just that: a pleasure to shoot with.
>
> The weird choice of painted brass and the whole "will acquire patina"
> thing, I take almost as a sarcastic commentary on planned obsolescence.
> Probably unintentional, but interesting commentary in any case. Plus is yet
> another instance of a camera company that could only be described as
> "quirky". Think about it: They brought us the K-01, the Q series, the MX-1.
> They were making non-pro DSLRs with weather sealing and IS back in 2006.
> They make a lens series that is all metal, like it's 1965 or something.
> Their acquisition by Ricoh is a perfect marriage: the company that makes
> the GR series, made the GXR and other weird cameras like those is a great
> match. Hey if you want great AF and new cameras every three weeks go get a
> Sony or Canon, those are not going away anyway. I am glad there's someone
> seemingly experimenting and making cool stuff.
>
> Back to the MX-1: I love this camera. Yes it would be great to have a hot
> shoe, I've been thinking I might tastefully epoxy one to mine. If Pentax
> were to make an MX-2, with a similar body and features and a 20MP 1"
> sensor, I would be all over it.
>
> While I wait for my patina to develop, I leave you with this really nice
> 2019 review of the MX-1. Check out that guy's channel too, he likes his
> Pentaxes.
>
> https://youtu.be/cRgQndjM1rQ?t=57
>
> j
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Re: Mx server messed up

[Larry]

Seems to be fixed

On April 5, 2017 12:28:01 PM MST, Larry  wrote:
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>screwup with our mx server. It's being taken care of.  My backup
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Re: MX on travels

[Bill]

On 5/24/2016 6:24 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

I have an MX, Bill, but thanks anyway!  Cheers, Christine


Mine's nicer.






On May 24, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Bill  wrote:

On 5/24/2016 6:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Funny, I’ve had the same MX urge lately.  Pleasant portrait!  South of France 
sounds delightful—pictures?  Have you processed the film yet?  How did it turn 
out?



I have a very nice black one if you would like to make n offer.

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Re: MX on travels

[Bob W-PDML]

Certainly looks nice on Google Images - did you get pictures of the waterfall?

Just looked at the picture again - Pete and Lisa look like characters in a 
Nouvelle Vague film. (Which makes you le cinéma de Papa, I suppose...)

> On 24 May 2016, at 19:58, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> No idea what the hill's called. It was near St Laurent le Minier on
> the Vis river.
> 
> We did walk to the 658m summit of Pic-St-Loup.
> 
> CM
> 
>> On 24 May 2016 at 17:37, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> You should plan your wardrobes together the evening before.
>> 
>> Do you know the name of the hill in the background?
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> On 24 May 2016, at 17:32, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The father and son coordinated colour scheme was purely coincidental. Much
>>> to Pete's consternation (and everyone else's amusement) we both wore stripy
>>> blue tops the next day as well!
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> On 24 May 2016 16:59, "Bob W-PDML"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's very nice - you're all looking very well, including the MX, and
>>> nicely matching father & son.
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
 On 24 May 2016, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
 
 Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
 shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
 who were with us for a couple of days.
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
 
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Re: MX on travels

[Chris Mitchell]

No idea what the hill's called. It was near St Laurent le Minier on
the Vis river.

We did walk to the 658m summit of Pic-St-Loup.

CM

On 24 May 2016 at 17:37, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> You should plan your wardrobes together the evening before.
>
> Do you know the name of the hill in the background?
>
> B
>
>> On 24 May 2016, at 17:32, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>>
>> The father and son coordinated colour scheme was purely coincidental. Much
>> to Pete's consternation (and everyone else's amusement) we both wore stripy
>> blue tops the next day as well!
>>
>> Chris
>> On 24 May 2016 16:59, "Bob W-PDML"  wrote:
>>
>> That's very nice - you're all looking very well, including the MX, and
>> nicely matching father & son.
>>
>> B
>>
>>> On 24 May 2016, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>>>
>>> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
>>> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
>>> who were with us for a couple of days.
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
>>>
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Re: MX on travels

[Bob W-PDML]

You should plan your wardrobes together the evening before.

Do you know the name of the hill in the background?

B

> On 24 May 2016, at 17:32, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> The father and son coordinated colour scheme was purely coincidental. Much
> to Pete's consternation (and everyone else's amusement) we both wore stripy
> blue tops the next day as well!
> 
> Chris
> On 24 May 2016 16:59, "Bob W-PDML"  wrote:
> 
> That's very nice - you're all looking very well, including the MX, and
> nicely matching father & son.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 24 May 2016, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>> 
>> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
>> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
>> who were with us for a couple of days.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
>> 
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Re: MX on travels

[Chris Mitchell]

The father and son coordinated colour scheme was purely coincidental. Much
to Pete's consternation (and everyone else's amusement) we both wore stripy
blue tops the next day as well!

Chris
On 24 May 2016 16:59, "Bob W-PDML"  wrote:

That's very nice - you're all looking very well, including the MX, and
nicely matching father & son.

B

> On 24 May 2016, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>
> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
> who were with us for a couple of days.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
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Re: MX on travels

[Chris Mitchell]

It was delightful Christine. Processing is in hand - back to the days of
delayed gratification! Actually I'll be posting later to get the list's
view about an odd technical issue. More later...

Chris
On 24 May 2016 13:20, "Christine Aguila"  wrote:

Funny, I’ve had the same MX urge lately.  Pleasant portrait!  South of
France sounds delightful—pictures?  Have you processed the film yet?  How
did it turn out?

Cheers, Christine


> On May 24, 2016, at 2:12 AM, Chris Mitchell 
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> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
> who were with us for a couple of days.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
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Re: MX on travels

[Bob W-PDML]

That's very nice - you're all looking very well, including the MX, and nicely 
matching father & son.

B

> On 24 May 2016, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
> who were with us for a couple of days.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
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Re: MX on travels

[Christine Aguila]

I have an MX, Bill, but thanks anyway!  Cheers, Christine


> On May 24, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 5/24/2016 6:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Funny, I’ve had the same MX urge lately.  Pleasant portrait!  South of 
>> France sounds delightful—pictures?  Have you processed the film yet?  How 
>> did it turn out?
>> 
> 
> I have a very nice black one if you would like to make n offer.
> 
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Re: MX on travels

[Bill]

On 5/24/2016 6:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Funny, I’ve had the same MX urge lately.  Pleasant portrait!  South of France 
sounds delightful—pictures?  Have you processed the film yet?  How did it turn 
out?



I have a very nice black one if you would like to make n offer.

bill


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Re: MX on travels

[Christine Aguila]

Funny, I’ve had the same MX urge lately.  Pleasant portrait!  South of France 
sounds delightful—pictures?  Have you processed the film yet?  How did it turn 
out?

Cheers, Christine


> On May 24, 2016, at 2:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
> who were with us for a couple of days.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
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Re: MX on travels

[Jack Davis]

Nice image!
J

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> On May 24, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Karin and I had a lovely week in the South of France. I took my MX and
> shot a couple of rolls of FP4. Here's the MX with (son) Pete and Lisa
> who were with us for a couple of days.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v21ucvosy8w680/_1040937.jpg?dl=0
> 
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Re: MX-1 currently on Woot.com for $250

[Zos Xavius]

I know. If I had $250 I could waste I'd be grabbing one. I like the MX-1.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, John Celio
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 Woot is a 24-hour deal site, so get 'em while they last:
 http://www.woot.com/offers/pentax-mx-1-12mp-4x-opt-digital-camera

 Kinda wish I could justify buying one...

 John

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On 18/3/13, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=KJSvWlrHnfU#!

Gag

Nicely shot video but for God's sake - the eventual brassing of the
metalwork is actually a selling point for Pentax? How absolutely trite -
just shows the direction marketing moves in. Be like what you can't.
Coming next, sports cars with oil pre-sprayed on the front bumper and grill

Didn't care for the voice-over (but I bet it wasn't by the actor
wandering the streets of Paris with that inane grin - I'd love to wipe
that off his chops with my boot).

I won't diss the camera because I'm sure it's capable - just sickly to
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On 19/3/13, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

I found it almost impossible to watch because of the (to me)
horrible flare every few seconds. Was this just an artifact
of my system, or did other people see it as well?

It was added in editing - far too much in my humble opinion - as a sort
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On 19/3/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

His accent, by the way, is as phoney as the camera. No British person has
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On 20/3/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Shade the LCD with your hat. Works fine.

Good idea - and I've still got mine :-)

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 You can always find situations where some device doesn't do exactly
 what you would prefer.
 
 My philosophy is to find the situations where the device does exactly
 what I need, and work around or avoid the situations where it's not
 exactly the right thing. I buy a couple of different devices to cover
 the situations where one is deficient.
 
 By adopting this philosophy, I find myself complaining about stuff a
 lot less: looking for how cameras are really very good, and for what
 they do, rather than worrying about how they're crappy or not to my
 taste.
 
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Shade the LCD with your hat. Works fine.

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com 
 wrote:

 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?

 I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
 set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

 That may be the assumption, but IME the LCD is useless for that purpose
 (framing) in bright light.  I had to use the mostly worthless OVF on my
 Nikon P7100 a few days ago precisely for that, and for that reason will
 never get a camera without some kind of viewfinder.

 Doesn't work so well trying to shoot sort-of upward (about sixty degrees
 from horizontal in this particular case).

That's a fair point and a reasonable attitude, but I tend to be a
single-device person (for example, my partner has an Android phone, an
iPod Touch, a regular iPod, and an iPad -- I just use my Android phone
for everything).  I prefer to stick with what I know I'll use rather than
getting greedy and getting something I won't use (the better is the
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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From: Steve Cottrell

On 19/3/13, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

I found it almost impossible to watch because of the (to me)
horrible flare every few seconds. Was this just an artifact
of my system, or did other people see it as well?


It was added in editing - far too much in my humble opinion - as a sort
of 8mm-movie defect. Like adding scratches and turning footage BW
portraying it as old silent movie film.


Like Instagram for video?

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 You can always find situations where some device doesn't do exactly
 what you would prefer.

 My philosophy is to find the situations where the device does exactly
 what I need, and work around or avoid the situations where it's not
 exactly the right thing. I buy a couple of different devices to cover
 the situations where one is deficient.

 By adopting this philosophy, I find myself complaining about stuff a
 lot less: looking for how cameras are really very good, and for what
 they do, rather than worrying about how they're crappy or not to my
 taste.
 ...

 That's a fair point and a reasonable attitude, but I tend to be a
 single-device person (for example, my partner has an Android phone, an
 iPod Touch, a regular iPod, and an iPad -- I just use my Android phone
 for everything).  I prefer to stick with what I know I'll use rather than
 getting greedy and getting something I won't use (the better is the
 enemy of the good).

I only buy what I know I'll use too. I didn't buy an iPhone until last
year because my ancient Motorola L2 and an iPod touch did what I
needed in pocketable devices nicely ... the iPhone 4S improved on that
by letting me carry one less device and having a very high quality
camera. But it is not the same thing to use as an iPad or iPad mini,
and I use it for those things that it does best, use the iPad for
those things that IT does best. The fact that they are compatible and
complementary is what counts, one of them cannot be 'best' at all
things.

Trying to fit all needs with one camera is just as impossible. Every
camera has its range of things it does well and things it does not. I
would not go shooting motorsports with my Hasseblad SWC any more than
I'd try to do architectural interiors with a 300mm telephoto on a
Nikon D3 (to name a particularly egregious set of extremes).
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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Steve Cottrell]

On 21/3/13, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

From: Steve Cottrell
 On 19/3/13, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
 I found it almost impossible to watch because of the (to me)
 horrible flare every few seconds. Was this just an artifact
 of my system, or did other people see it as well?

 It was added in editing - far too much in my humble opinion - as a sort
 of 8mm-movie defect. Like adding scratches and turning footage BW
 portraying it as old silent movie film.

Like Instagram for video?

Precisely John. There are filters that can be applied to shots or entire
sequences to emulate effects from days gone by (like occasional flashes,
which by the way is the supposed effect of opening the side of a camera
loaded with unprocessed movie film, thus allowing light to fall on one
edge of the reel, or maybe the parts that are spooled around the shutter
mech etc) and other filters to give the video any kind of look that you
like. I tend to do things manually and make my own effects but there are
plenty one can get off the shelf.

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


You can always find situations where some device doesn't do exactly
what you would prefer.


I look for devices that *WILL* do what I prefer.

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On 3/21/2013 7:06 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 19/3/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:


His accent, by the way, is as phoney as the camera. No British person has
ever spoken like that naturally.

Except Bob.


They should've hired Dick Van Dyke for the voice-over.

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RE: MX-1 promo video

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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
 
 His accent, by the way, is as phoney as the camera. No British person
 has ever spoken like that naturally.
 
 Except Bob.
 

You insolent bounder. My man will be calling on your man with a choice of
weapons.

B


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RE: MX-1 promo video

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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt
 
 On 3/21/2013 7:06 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
  On 19/3/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  His accent, by the way, is as phoney as the camera. No British
 person
  has ever spoken like that naturally.
  Except Bob.
 
 They should've hired Dick Van Dyke for the voice-over.
 

they didn't?

B


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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walt

 On 3/21/2013 7:06 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
  On 19/3/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  His accent, by the way, is as phoney as the camera. No British
  person has ever spoken like that naturally.
  Except Bob.
 
 They should've hired Dick Van Dyke for the voice-over.

 they didn't?

I heard they considered Rodney Dangerfield.

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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From: John Francis

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:07:18PM -0400, Mark C wrote:

I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial.


I found it almost impossible to watch because of the (to me)
horrible flare every few seconds. Was this just an artifact
of my system, or did other people see it as well?


Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How 
#^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?


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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?

I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

G

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?
 
 I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
 set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

That may be the assumption, but IME the LCD is useless for that purpose
(framing) in bright light.  I had to use the mostly worthless OVF on my
Nikon P7100 a few days ago precisely for that, and for that reason will
never get a camera without some kind of viewfinder.
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?

 I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
 set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

It uses today's standard PS algorithm: focus on the closest duckface.
Framing? What's that?

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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Shade the LCD with your hat. Works fine.

G

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?

 I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
 set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

 That may be the assumption, but IME the LCD is useless for that purpose
 (framing) in bright light.  I had to use the mostly worthless OVF on my
 Nikon P7100 a few days ago precisely for that, and for that reason will
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
#^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?


I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.


Probably, but I'd rather have a camera that focuses on what I want it to 
focus on.


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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Shade the LCD with your hat. Works fine.
 
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?

 I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
 set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

 That may be the assumption, but IME the LCD is useless for that purpose
 (framing) in bright light.  I had to use the mostly worthless OVF on my
 Nikon P7100 a few days ago precisely for that, and for that reason will
 never get a camera without some kind of viewfinder.

Doesn't work so well trying to shoot sort-of upward (about sixty degrees
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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You can always find situations where some device doesn't do exactly
what you would prefer.

My philosophy is to find the situations where the device does exactly
what I need, and work around or avoid the situations where it's not
exactly the right thing. I buy a couple of different devices to cover
the situations where one is deficient.

By adopting this philosophy, I find myself complaining about stuff a
lot less: looking for how cameras are really very good, and for what
they do, rather than worrying about how they're crappy or not to my
taste.

G

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Shade the LCD with your hat. Works fine.

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com 
 wrote:

 Hipster production. All I remember is thinking Still no viewfinder. How
 #^%@* am I supposed to control something if I can't see to focus it?

 I suspect the assumption is that most people will allow the camera to
 set focus automatically and use the LCD primarily for framing.

 That may be the assumption, but IME the LCD is useless for that purpose
 (framing) in bright light.  I had to use the mostly worthless OVF on my
 Nikon P7100 a few days ago precisely for that, and for that reason will
 never get a camera without some kind of viewfinder.

 Doesn't work so well trying to shoot sort-of upward (about sixty degrees
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RE: MX-1 promo video

[Bob W]

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius
 
 But the q10 doesn't have brassing! Its funny that people have such
 issue with it. All the reviews I've seen so far, most reviewers went
 out of their way to praise the design and all commented on how they
 liked the brass. 

Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once too often
with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. Instant patina,
pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing references and a hint of
slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. Dull though, and lacking in
wit.

[...]
 
 On 3/18/2013 8:26 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=KJSvWlrHnfU#!
 
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once too often
 with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. Instant patina,
 pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing references and a hint of
 slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. Dull though, and lacking in
 wit.

Manufactured truth-in-seeming. Bleck.

Aside from the silliness of its faux nostalgic style and marketing, it
might be a very good camera. However they've missed one simple thing:
there's no accessory shoe for a flash or a clip on optical viewfinder.
Why in the world would you leave that out on a camera like this?

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:07:18PM -0400, Mark C wrote:
 I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial.

I found it almost impossible to watch because of the (to me)
horrible flare every few seconds. Was this just an artifact
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Re: MX-1 promo video

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Yeah but what kinda pictures does it take. HAR!

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius

But the q10 doesn't have brassing! Its funny that people have such
issue with it. All the reviews I've seen so far, most reviewers went
out of their way to praise the design and all commented on how they
liked the brass.


Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once too 
often
with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. Instant 
patina,
pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing references and a hint 
of

slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. Dull though, and lacking in
wit.

[...]


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=KJSvWlrHnfU#!

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[kwaller]

Why in the world would you leave that out on a camera like this?


Penny pinching cost and the ability to come out with a 2.0 version that will 
include those items and perhaps more


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: MX-1 promo video



On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once too 
often
with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. Instant 
patina,
pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing references and a hint 
of

slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. Dull though, and lacking in
wit.


Manufactured truth-in-seeming. Bleck.

Aside from the silliness of its faux nostalgic style and marketing, it
might be a very good camera. However they've missed one simple thing:
there's no accessory shoe for a flash or a clip on optical viewfinder.
Why in the world would you leave that out on a camera like this?

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[kwaller]

I saw that also and just figured it was included onpurpose to ad to the 
casual-ness of the video.

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Subject: Re: MX-1 promo video



On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:07:18PM -0400, Mark C wrote:

I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial.


I found it almost impossible to watch because of the (to me)
horrible flare every few seconds. Was this just an artifact
of my system, or did other people see it as well?



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RE: MX-1 promo video

[Bob W]

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 kwal...@peoplepc.com
 
 Yeah but what kinda pictures does it take. HAR!
 

timeless black  white classics, I should think.

His accent, by the way, is as phoney as the camera. No British person has
ever spoken like that naturally.

Bob

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 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Subject: RE: MX-1 promo video
 
 
  From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius
 
  But the q10 doesn't have brassing! Its funny that people have such
  issue with it. All the reviews I've seen so far, most reviewers went
  out of their way to praise the design and all commented on how they
  liked the brass.
 
  Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once too
  often
  with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. Instant
  patina,
  pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing references and a
 hint
  of
  slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. Dull though, and lacking
 in
  wit.
 
  [...]
  
  On 3/18/2013 8:26 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
  
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=KJSvWlrHnfU#!
  
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Re: MX-1 promo video

[P.J. Alling]

If only they'd thought to create an accessory EVF that could be used on 
the Q, the K-01 and this camera which would make them a system!  What a 
concept!  That's two exclamation points in a row!  (Make that three!  
No, four! Damn, I must be excited! ...or not).


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Re: MX-1 promo video

[P.J. Alling]

You know, the future of photography is 3D, and always, has been, or is 
that, will be.


On 3/18/2013 9:07 PM, Mark C wrote:
I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial. Aside from the fact 
that I would be wearing sweat pants and a the  She's with stupid T 
shirt my wife got me for my birthday, I can relate to the dude in the 
video.


But seriously - the brassing thing is totally contrived and Pentax 
trivializes themselves by emphasizing that. Yeah, my 6x7 and LX have 
brassing but they are over 30 and 20 years old respectively. It is 
silly to contemplate using a digital camera that old, but maybe 
hipsters in 2043 will be doing lomography with K-5's and M-X's 2-d 
flat field photos will be all the retro craze.


But - it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and 
shoot that is pocketable. But with a coat like that, the guy in the 
commercial could have easily carried a Q10 and a couple of lenses.


Mark

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[P.J. Alling]

No, I think it's an orphan like the K-01, there will be no MX-2, well 
not at least for another 10 years.


On 3/19/2013 4:33 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Why in the world would you leave that out on a camera like this?


Penny pinching cost and the ability to come out with a 2.0 version 
that will include those items and perhaps more


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: MX-1 promo video



On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once 
too often
with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. Instant 
patina,
pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing references and a 
hint of
slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. Dull though, and 
lacking in

wit.


Manufactured truth-in-seeming. Bleck.

Aside from the silliness of its faux nostalgic style and marketing, it
might be a very good camera. However they've missed one simple thing:
there's no accessory shoe for a flash or a clip on optical viewfinder.
Why in the world would you leave that out on a camera like this?

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:

I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial. Aside from the fact  
that I would be wearing sweat pants and a the  She's with stupid T  
shirt my wife got me for my birthday, I can relate to the dude in  
the video.


But seriously - the brassing thing is totally contrived and Pentax  
trivializes themselves by emphasizing that. Yeah, my 6x7 and LX have  
brassing but they are over 30 and 20 years old respectively. It is  
silly to contemplate using a digital camera that old, but maybe  
hipsters in 2043 will be doing lomography with K-5's and M-X's  
2-d flat field photos will be all the retro craze.


But - it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and  
shoot that is pocketable. But with a coat like that, the guy in the  
commercial could have easily carried a Q10 and a couple of lenses.



Apart from the brassing issue, I agree it's an appealing camera (do  
people, other than reviewers, *really* want their cameras to look like  
crap?).  But it has one serious omission.  Why would they produce this  
without a hotshoe - even a basic one?  I'm pretty sure most of their  
competitors have that feature.


I recently went shopping for a quality compact camera, mainly for use  
by my wife during an upcoming trip, but I wanted something that I  
would be happy with as well. I looked at the MX-1 when it was  
announced but lack of a hotshoe killed it for me.  I eventually went  
for a Lumix LX-5.




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Re: MX-1 promo video

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:

  it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and shoot
 that is pocketable.

 I recently went shopping for a quality compact camera, mainly for use by my
 wife during an upcoming trip, but I wanted something that I would be happy
 with as well. I looked at the MX-1 when it was announced but lack of a
 hotshoe killed it for me.

I'm curious, Brian: what would you put in the hotshoe if it had had one?

'Cause I'm thinking:
- Pentax flash? Too ungainly.
- flash trigger? This pocketable PS is hardly useful in a studio.
- accessory viewfinder? Pentax doesn't make one; would have to be an
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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Mark C]

On 3/19/2013 3:55 AM, Bob W wrote:
Perhaps I've wandered around Paris - the museum of museums - once too 
often with my Leica, but I think the camera is pure postmodernism. 
Instant patina, pastiche, ironic, plundering the past with knowing 
references and a hint of slap-on Leonard Cohen imagery in the advert. 
Dull though, and lacking in wit. [...]


Damn - I think you nailed it

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Re: MX-1 promo video

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Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Brian Walters  
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:


 it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and shoot
that is pocketable.


I recently went shopping for a quality compact camera, mainly for use by my
wife during an upcoming trip, but I wanted something that I would be happy
with as well. I looked at the MX-1 when it was announced but lack of a
hotshoe killed it for me.


I'm curious, Brian: what would you put in the hotshoe if it had had one?

'Cause I'm thinking:
- Pentax flash? Too ungainly.
- flash trigger? This pocketable PS is hardly useful in a studio.
- accessory viewfinder? Pentax doesn't make one; would have to be an
adapted kludge.




A Pentax flash - it might be ungainly but I wouldn't need it often.  I  
just want something more powerful than the built-in flash when I need  
it.  I also have a couple of older Pentax flashguns that are compact  
that might be useable.


An accessory viewfinder would be nice but it would probably be  
unaffordable if the one for the Lumix LX-5 is any guide.


It seems that Pentax is leaving out features that I'd like in a number  
of its recent models.  The lack of a wired remote port on my Q is  
really annoying.  That would have been a deal killer except that I got  
the camera for $200 with the prime lens.



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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Bob Sullivan]

Rob, I wish I knew how to sculpt light!   Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Bruce Walker]

Gag -- Rob, you're _way_ too kind. :-)

My LCD display acquired virtual coffee stains when the subtitles
solemnly announced


BRASS FRAME
==
WILL ACQUIRE PATINA


Sad.


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Re: MX-1 promo video

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I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial. Aside from the fact 
that I would be wearing sweat pants and a the  She's with stupid T 
shirt my wife got me for my birthday, I can relate to the dude in the 
video.


But seriously - the brassing thing is totally contrived and Pentax 
trivializes themselves by emphasizing that. Yeah, my 6x7 and LX have 
brassing but they are over 30 and 20 years old respectively. It is silly 
to contemplate using a digital camera that old, but maybe hipsters in 
2043 will be doing lomography with K-5's and M-X's 2-d flat field 
photos will be all the retro craze.


But - it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and shoot 
that is pocketable. But with a coat like that, the guy in the commercial 
could have easily carried a Q10 and a couple of lenses.


Mark

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=KJSvWlrHnfU#!

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Zos Xavius]

But the q10 doesn't have brassing! Its funny that people have such issue with 
it. All the reviews I've seen so far, most reviewers went out of their way to 
praise the design and all commented on how they liked the brass. Sure its a 
little silly, but would you rather the camera looked like the xz-2? I must say, 
the sample pictures I've seen have been very sharp and approaching m43 quality 
at base iso.

Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial. Aside from the fact 
that I would be wearing sweat pants and a the  She's with stupid T 
shirt my wife got me for my birthday, I can relate to the dude in the 
video.

But seriously - the brassing thing is totally contrived and Pentax 
trivializes themselves by emphasizing that. Yeah, my 6x7 and LX have 
brassing but they are over 30 and 20 years old respectively. It is
silly 
to contemplate using a digital camera that old, but maybe hipsters in 
2043 will be doing lomography with K-5's and M-X's 2-d flat field 
photos will be all the retro craze.

But - it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and
shoot 
that is pocketable. But with a coat like that, the guy in the
commercial 
could have easily carried a Q10 and a couple of lenses.

Mark

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Re: MX-1 promo video

[Paul Stenquist]

But it's so pretentious, so precious. Pentax's agency  obviously worked hard to 
find a guy with a just-so effete accent. And his fawning over the camera 
strikes me as ridiculously over the top.  Can you tell I don't like it:-). The 
camera, on the other hand, may well be fine. I have no idea.

Paul
On Mar 18, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 I'm actually pretty impressed by the commercial. Aside from the fact that I 
 would be wearing sweat pants and a the  She's with stupid T shirt my wife 
 got me for my birthday, I can relate to the dude in the video.
 
 But seriously - the brassing thing is totally contrived and Pentax 
 trivializes themselves by emphasizing that. Yeah, my 6x7 and LX have brassing 
 but they are over 30 and 20 years old respectively. It is silly to 
 contemplate using a digital camera that old, but maybe hipsters in 2043 will 
 be doing lomography with K-5's and M-X's 2-d flat field photos will be 
 all the retro craze.
 
 But - it is an appealing camera if you are looking for a point and shoot that 
 is pocketable. But with a coat like that, the guy in the commercial could 
 have easily carried a Q10 and a couple of lenses.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 15:07 , Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Daniele Procida dani...@vurt.org:
 
 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On the older screwmount Pentax cameras and MX's,
 the trick was to give the shutter release a very quick flick,
 like you were flicking a crumb off a picnic table.
 The mirror would go up, but the shutter wouldn't fire until
 you gave it a follow-up push.
 Not an easy or reliable way to get mirror lock-up.
 
 I was hoping that the document would give me some clues on why the mirror is 
 staying up *after* the shutter release, until a shot at fast speed is taken.
 
 
 The old geocities sites went down the gurgler some years ago but this page 
 looks to be a copy of the one you want:
 
 http://www.oocities.org/spirope/mxmlu.htm

The geo url worked fine for me, today. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[Daniele Procida]

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:

Like others said, it may well be that you need a proper service. 
However, the above mentioned trick help, the problem is may be related 
to the hidden mirror lock-up feature, and the following info is 
probably helpful: http://www.geocities.ws/spirope/mxmlu.html

Thanks, I've tried that a few times now, but I think the site no longer exists.

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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

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On the older screwmount Pentax cameras and MX's,
the trick was to give the shutter release a very quick flick,
like you were flicking a crumb off a picnic table.
The mirror would go up, but the shutter wouldn't fire until
you gave it a follow-up push.
Not an easy or reliable way to get mirror lock-up...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Daniele Procida dani...@vurt.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 6, 2012, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:

Like others said, it may well be that you need a proper service.
However, the above mentioned trick help, the problem is may be related
to the hidden mirror lock-up feature, and the following info is
probably helpful: http://www.geocities.ws/spirope/mxmlu.html

 Thanks, I've tried that a few times now, but I think the site no longer 
 exists.

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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

On the older screwmount Pentax cameras and MX's,
the trick was to give the shutter release a very quick flick,
like you were flicking a crumb off a picnic table.
The mirror would go up, but the shutter wouldn't fire until
you gave it a follow-up push.
Not an easy or reliable way to get mirror lock-up.

I was hoping that the document would give me some clues on why the mirror is 
staying up *after* the shutter release, until a shot at fast speed is taken.

Daniele


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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Daniele Procida dani...@vurt.org:


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:


On the older screwmount Pentax cameras and MX's,
the trick was to give the shutter release a very quick flick,
like you were flicking a crumb off a picnic table.
The mirror would go up, but the shutter wouldn't fire until
you gave it a follow-up push.
Not an easy or reliable way to get mirror lock-up.


I was hoping that the document would give me some clues on why the  
mirror is staying up *after* the shutter release, until a shot at  
fast speed is taken.



The old geocities sites went down the gurgler some years ago but this  
page looks to be a copy of the one you want:


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RE: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[John Sessoms]

From: Daniele Procida

It's fine at other speeds, but at slow speeds, it doesn't come back
down again after the shot.

To get it to come down I have to advance the film, and take a shot at
a fast speed.

It's not sticking up. I can pull it down with a fingernail, but as
soon as I let go it springs up again.

I'm quite happy to take it to bits to find the fault, but it would be
most handy to have some advice on where to start looking.

Thanks,

Daniele


I can't really tell you where to start, but I can sympathize. That's 
what my K1000 started doing that caused it to end up in the repair shop 
for over a year.


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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[P. J. Alling]

It just needs a Clean Lube and Adjustment, by a /competent/ technician.  
Note the word competent.  Should cost less than $100 US probably about 
$50. There are an awful lot of bits in an MX that will fly about in lots 
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On 11/6/2012 1:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Daniele Procida

It's fine at other speeds, but at slow speeds, it doesn't come back
down again after the shot.

To get it to come down I have to advance the film, and take a shot at
a fast speed.

It's not sticking up. I can pull it down with a fingernail, but as
soon as I let go it springs up again.

I'm quite happy to take it to bits to find the fault, but it would be
most handy to have some advice on where to start looking.

Thanks,

Daniele


I can't really tell you where to start, but I can sympathize. That's 
what my K1000 started doing that caused it to end up in the repair 
shop for over a year.





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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[Daniele Procida]

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

It just needs a Clean Lube and Adjustment, by a /competent/ technician.  
Note the word competent.  Should cost less than $100 US probably about 
$50. There are an awful lot of bits in an MX that will fly about in lots 
of different directions if you get it wrong.  I know of a couple of 
places that will do the work.  I recommend Eric Hedrickson at 
http://pentaxs.com/index.html  I've sent him only one item that wasn't 
fully repaired when I got it back at very reasonable prices.

I bought it for about £35 on eBay a couple of years ago, and it's fairly 
beaten-up. An SLR is obviously more complex than the rangefinders I'm used to, 
but I don't mind having a go myself.

Daniele


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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[Toralf Lund]

On 11/6/12 16:24, Daniele Procida wrote:

It's fine at other speeds, but at slow speeds, it doesn't come back down again 
after the shot.

To get it to come down I have to advance the film, and take a shot at a fast 
speed.

It's not sticking up. I can pull it down with a fingernail, but as soon as I 
let go it springs up again.
Can you get it back down by pulling/sliding the lever to the left of the 
mirror, looking from the front of the camera? The stop-down mechanism, 
that is?

I'm quite happy to take it to bits to find the fault, but it would be most 
handy to have some advice on where to start looking.
Like others said, it may well be that you need a proper service. 
However, the above mentioned trick help, the problem is may be related 
to the hidden mirror lock-up feature, and the following info is 
probably helpful: http://www.geocities.ws/spirope/mxmlu.html


As in, I *think* it should be possible to resolve your problem by 
adjusting the lever as explained on that page. The problem is, it may be 
pretty darn hard to get it right. That's why you may need a good mechanic...



- Toralf

Thanks,

Daniele





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Re: MX mirror locks up at slow speeds

[Steve Cottrell]

On 6/11/12, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

There are an awful lot of bits in an MX that will fly about in lots 
of different directions if you get it wrong. 

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Re: MX shutter problem?

[Rick Womer]

403 error: access forbidden.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Sun, 7/25/10, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:

 From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net
 Subject: MX shutter problem?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 1:11 PM
 Folks,
 
 I'm having a slight issue with an old, beat-up MX I bought
 for next to nothing a year or two ago (not sure if I told
 anyone here.) On the last film I shot with it, a large
 number of frames only came out as partially exposed. To show
 you what I'm talking about, I went ahead and scanned the
 entire film (well, I probably wanted digital versions of
 some pictures anyway.) Here is an index file produced
 during this process:
 
 http://www.toralf.net/images/mxError.jpg
 
 All images have the natural orientation of the film, and
 they are ordered according to frame no, and split into the
 same strips as the film itself.
 
 As you can see, there is often data missing, always on the
 same side, but the amount varies. There are also a few
 blanks, but this might of course be caused by something
 else entirely. I think I saw something like this earlier,
 too, but then there were only 2 or 3 incidents throughout
 the film.
 
 So, what do you reckon? Is the shutter broken, or what? If
 it is, would it be worth fixing? Also, if the curtains stick
 or whatever, why not all the time? (Different exposure
 times?) Or alternatively, is there something else that might
 cause something like this? I mean, besides actually blocking
 parts of the lens, as surely I would have noticed that in
 the viewfinder.
 
 
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Re: MX shutter problem?

[Rick Womer]

Got it to work by copying and pasting the URL into a new browser window.

Your MX has a sticking shutter curtain, I think the leading one (it has a 
horizontal-running shutter).

Rick

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--- On Sun, 7/25/10, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:

 From: Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net
 Subject: MX shutter problem?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 1:11 PM
 Folks,
 
 I'm having a slight issue with an old, beat-up MX I bought
 for next to nothing a year or two ago (not sure if I told
 anyone here.) On the last film I shot with it, a large
 number of frames only came out as partially exposed. To show
 you what I'm talking about, I went ahead and scanned the
 entire film (well, I probably wanted digital versions of
 some pictures anyway.) Here is an index file produced
 during this process:
 
 http://www.toralf.net/images/mxError.jpg
 
 All images have the natural orientation of the film, and
 they are ordered according to frame no, and split into the
 same strips as the film itself.
 
 As you can see, there is often data missing, always on the
 same side, but the amount varies. There are also a few
 blanks, but this might of course be caused by something
 else entirely. I think I saw something like this earlier,
 too, but then there were only 2 or 3 incidents throughout
 the film.
 
 So, what do you reckon? Is the shutter broken, or what? If
 it is, would it be worth fixing? Also, if the curtains stick
 or whatever, why not all the time? (Different exposure
 times?) Or alternatively, is there something else that might
 cause something like this? I mean, besides actually blocking
 parts of the lens, as surely I would have noticed that in
 the viewfinder.
 
 
 - Toralf
 
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Re: MX shutter problem?

[P. J. Alling]

A CLA might clear up the problems.

On 7/25/2010 1:11 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

Folks,

I'm having a slight issue with an old, beat-up MX I bought for next to 
nothing a year or two ago (not sure if I told anyone here.) On the 
last film I shot with it, a large number of frames only came out as 
partially exposed. To show you what I'm talking about, I went ahead 
and scanned the entire film (well, I probably wanted digital versions 
of some pictures anyway.) Here is an index file produced during this 
process:


http://www.toralf.net/images/mxError.jpg

All images have the natural orientation of the film, and they are 
ordered according to frame no, and split into the same strips as the 
film itself.


As you can see, there is often data missing, always on the same side, 
but the amount varies. There are also a few blanks, but this might 
of course be caused by something else entirely. I think I saw 
something like this earlier, too, but then there were only 2 or 3 
incidents throughout the film.


So, what do you reckon? Is the shutter broken, or what? If it is, 
would it be worth fixing? Also, if the curtains stick or whatever, why 
not all the time? (Different exposure times?) Or alternatively, is 
there something else that might cause something like this? I mean, 
besides actually blocking parts of the lens, as surely I would have 
noticed that in the viewfinder.



- Toralf




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RE: MX shutter problem?

[J.C. O'Connell]

cheaper to just buy another one that still works.

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A CLA might clear up the problems.



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Re: MX shutter problem?

[Toralf Lund]

J.C. O'Connell wrote:

cheaper to just buy another one that still works.
  

That was sort of what I was thinking.

On the other hand, if I spend the money on a CLA, perhaps it is less 
likely that I have a problem again after a little while. But like I 
said, the camera does look a bit worn down, so perhaps not...


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Re: MX shutter problem?

[P. J. Alling]

It's terrible, photographers actually insisted on using their MX's.

On 7/25/2010 2:55 PM, Toralf Lund wrote:

J.C. O'Connell wrote:

cheaper to just buy another one that still works.

That was sort of what I was thinking.

On the other hand, if I spend the money on a CLA, perhaps it is less 
likely that I have a problem again after a little while. But like I 
said, the camera does look a bit worn down, so perhaps not...


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A CLA might clear up the problems.









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RE: MX, LX

[Bob W]

[...]

 appears to be good. The only minus to this body is the 
 engraved name J.Goldstein on the back plate below the winder 
 lever. (However, it's very neatly done). The LX comes with 

I wonder if he was Emmanuel's brother - that would make the camera very
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Re: MX Resurrected

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Derby:  These are great, and I especially love #3--That's really lovely. 
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: GESO: MX Resurrected




Hooray. Recall I mentioned I had an MX that C.R. Kennedy declined to 
repair. I took it to another place in the city that I've been to a few 
times before (Camera Service Centre) and they fixed it in a week. Now it's 
all working fine and dandy. Such a haptic pleasure to use, I must do this 
more often.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_mx/index.htm

Next stop, a Black and White Cobra reskin from cameraleather. Yeeha.

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

[P. J. Alling]

I don't get that deeply into surgery, after the repair tech who CLA'd 
one of my MXen described how he'd hand grenaded the timing mechanism on 
one he used as a parts donor

Andy Danzig wrote:
 OK.  So how do I lubricate the shutter or realign an escapement?  And  
 what is CLA?
 I'm looking for step by step DIY procedures, if possible.
 Thanks,
 Andy


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 On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:33 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

   
 Either the shutter lubrication is getting stiff or an escapement is  
 out
 of alignment..   One thing though, the rear shutter curtain must close
 to allow the mirror to drop.  Getting the mirror to drop without that
 happening won't cause it to.

 Andy Danzig wrote:
 
 Thanks for the response.  I wish it was just the mirror sticking.
 When I remove the lens and pull the mirror down, it flips right back
 up, continuing the exposure.
 when I did advance the film, the shutter reset.
 Although, this doesn't always happen.
 Andy

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 On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:32 AM, Cotty wrote:


   
 On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:


 
 I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
 The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle
 of
 a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
 sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
 this problem myself.
 Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.

   
 You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is  
 it
 just the mirror in the up position?

 Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it  
 locks
 open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
 carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the
 exposure.

 Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while
 observing.

 HTH

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Andy Danzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK.  So how do I lubricate the shutter or realign an escapement?  And
 what is CLA?
 I'm looking for step by step DIY procedures, if possible.
 Thanks,
 Andy

As Bong said, it's a Cleaning, Lubrication and Adjustment.  On
mechanical cameras (all cameras, I guess) it really should be done on
a regular basis, every couple of years or so.  Honestly, I wait until
something goes wrong (bad frank) but it's regular maintenance that
should keep that thing going for a long long time.

My shop here in Toronto used to charge about $125, which is high (but
they do a good job).  Lubing the rails yourself could lead to much
more costly repairs;  I'd be inclined to have it done by pros.  It's a
good investment in a fine, fine camera.

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

[Cotty]

On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle of
a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
this problem myself.
Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.

You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is it
just the mirror in the up position?

Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it locks
open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the exposure.

Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while observing.

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

[Andy Danzig]

Thanks for the response.  I wish it was just the mirror sticking.
When I remove the lens and pull the mirror down, it flips right back  
up, continuing the exposure.
when I did advance the film, the shutter reset.
Although, this doesn't always happen.
Andy

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On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:32 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
 The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle  
 of
 a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
 sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
 this problem myself.
 Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.

 You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is it
 just the mirror in the up position?

 Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it locks
 open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
 carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the  
 exposure.

 Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while  
 observing.

 HTH

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

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Either the shutter lubrication is getting stiff or an escapement is out 
of alignment..   One thing though, the rear shutter curtain must close 
to allow the mirror to drop.  Getting the mirror to drop without that 
happening won't cause it to.

Andy Danzig wrote:
 Thanks for the response.  I wish it was just the mirror sticking.
 When I remove the lens and pull the mirror down, it flips right back  
 up, continuing the exposure.
 when I did advance the film, the shutter reset.
 Although, this doesn't always happen.
 Andy

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 On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:32 AM, Cotty wrote:

   
 On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
 The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle  
 of
 a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
 sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
 this problem myself.
 Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.
   
 You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is it
 just the mirror in the up position?

 Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it locks
 open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
 carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the  
 exposure.

 Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while  
 observing.

 HTH

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

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On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Andy Danzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
 The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle of
 a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
 sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
 this problem myself.
 Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.
 AndyJ

I have an MX that did exactly the same thing when I got it.  My camera
repair guy say that the the rails on which the shutter slid just
needed lubrication, and suggested a CLA.

That worked, and it I haven't had the problem since (I can't remember
when I got the camera, but it must have been around 8 years ago).

cheers,
frank

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

[Andy Danzig]

OK.  So how do I lubricate the shutter or realign an escapement?  And  
what is CLA?
I'm looking for step by step DIY procedures, if possible.
Thanks,
Andy


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On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:33 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Either the shutter lubrication is getting stiff or an escapement is  
 out
 of alignment..   One thing though, the rear shutter curtain must close
 to allow the mirror to drop.  Getting the mirror to drop without that
 happening won't cause it to.

 Andy Danzig wrote:
 Thanks for the response.  I wish it was just the mirror sticking.
 When I remove the lens and pull the mirror down, it flips right back
 up, continuing the exposure.
 when I did advance the film, the shutter reset.
 Although, this doesn't always happen.
 Andy

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 On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:32 AM, Cotty wrote:


 On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:


 I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
 The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle
 of
 a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
 sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
 this problem myself.
 Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.

 You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is  
 it
 just the mirror in the up position?

 Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it  
 locks
 open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
 carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the
 exposure.

 Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while
 observing.

 HTH

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Re: MX shutter stuck open

[Bong Manayon]

CLA: clean lubricate adjust...

Unless you know what you're doing this may not be a DIY thing; I'd
send it to a shop.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Andy Danzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK.  So how do I lubricate the shutter or realign an escapement?  And
 what is CLA?
 I'm looking for step by step DIY procedures, if possible.
 Thanks,
 Andy


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 On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:33 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Either the shutter lubrication is getting stiff or an escapement is
 out
 of alignment..   One thing though, the rear shutter curtain must close
 to allow the mirror to drop.  Getting the mirror to drop without that
 happening won't cause it to.

 Andy Danzig wrote:
 Thanks for the response.  I wish it was just the mirror sticking.
 When I remove the lens and pull the mirror down, it flips right back
 up, continuing the exposure.
 when I did advance the film, the shutter reset.
 Although, this doesn't always happen.
 Andy

 P
 Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

 On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:32 AM, Cotty wrote:


 On 18/8/08, Andy Danzig, discombobulated, unleashed:


 I have a 1979 Pentax MX.  Every few years the shutters locks open.
 The camera will be working great and without warning, in the middle
 of
 a roll, the shutter will lock open and won't release.  I'm tired of
 sending it off for service and am looking for help to troubleshoot
 this problem myself.
 Any advice or information you can provide is greatly appreciated.

 You say the shutter locks open - is it indeed still exposing or is
 it
 just the mirror in the up position?

 Is the mirror sticking to the spongy mirror-stops? Next time it
 locks
 open, remove the lens and see if the mirror is still up. If so, try
 carefully helping it down with your finger, see if it finishes the
 exposure.

 Easy to see in a test - remove lens and film back and operate while
 observing.

 HTH

 --


 Cheers,
 Cotty


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Re: MX and battery level.

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille 
Subject: MX and battery level.


I find the manual not to be very clear...
 It says (I think) that if I push the sutter relase half-way and see a
 LED turning on, then battery is OK.
 
 Do I understood correctly? If so, what if the batteries are suddenly
 depleted... no warning?

That's more or less correct.

Keep a spare set of batteries in your bag.

William Robb

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