Re: MZ-S; First impression
A Nikon obviously, judging from all your previous posts. Jody. --- Pentax Clover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! > > See you __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
David wrote: >Also, does it do trap-focus with > a MF lens, like the Z-1p? If this also works with an AF lens set to MF, I'd be > really pleased as the Z-1p doesn't do this (I can think of situations where you > wouldn't want to use "servo" AF for this). It has trap focus. It works in the exact same manner as on the Z-1p. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
From: "Rob Brigham" > What made you change your mind PentaxClover? > > What finally sold it to you? > > Or did you just say 'what the heck...' > > Rob Brigham In fact, I am not very satisfy with my MZ-3, so I wish to buy the MZ-S to replace it !!! I am working on a bargain, but for the moment, the SLR is not avaible in France. My MZ-3 is going to be used as a P&S, so I will not mind what can happen to it !!! GEEE 8-) PS: Still waiting for a better SLR also _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
Hello All wrong, I bought nothing today because the MZ-S is not avaible again in France ... But, as Obiwan said to Luke: Patience, patience, Use the fork... 8-) See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
Nicholas wrote: > What would be your opinion concerning how well the > camera is sealed against the elements? I don't think its particularly sealed against the elements like eg. the LX. The early reports were obviously false. However, its much better sealed by the way its designed than the Z-1p; the latter is open by the two command dials. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S; First impression
What made you change your mind PentaxClover? What finally sold it to you? Or did you just say 'what the heck...' Rob Brigham -Original Message- From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 June 2001 11:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S; First impression > > >> PentaxClover wrote on 6-19-01: >> >> > >> >> >Hello >> >Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! >> > >> >> My educated guess is a Nikon F-100. Right? :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paulo Ernest A. No. He's seen the light--an MZ-S. Either that, or a pony. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
My guess is "a Korean car of similar size to a Mercedes Benz" ;-) Todd Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >A Promaster skylight filter? A roll of Kodak Max? An Achiever flash? A >Sears lens? Don't keep us in suspense!!! > >Todd > >At 12:33 AM 6/20/01 +0200, you wrote: >>Hello >>Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! >> >>See you >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
> > >> PentaxClover wrote on 6-19-01: >> >> > >> >> >Hello >> >Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! >> > >> >> My educated guess is a Nikon F-100. Right? :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paulo Ernest A. No. He's seen the light--an MZ-S. Either that, or a pony. Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
A Promaster skylight filter? A roll of Kodak Max? An Achiever flash? A Sears lens? Don't keep us in suspense!!! Todd At 12:33 AM 6/20/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hello >Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! > >See you > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >_ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >- > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
>From what i have heard of his camera preferences over the last couple of weeks, then that would be my guess too. - Original Message - From: "Ernest Alejandria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S; First impression > PentaxClover wrote on 6-19-01: > > > > > >Hello > >Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! > > > > My educated guess is a Nikon F-100. Right? :) > > Cheers, > > Paulo Ernest A. > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
PentaxClover wrote on 6-19-01: > >Hello >Everybody guess what I gonna buy tomorrow !!! > My educated guess is a Nikon F-100. Right? :) Cheers, Paulo Ernest A. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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RE: MZ-S; First impression
Well, I do not have a zx camera to reference to either, so if you (or anyone for that matter) could possibly compare the differences between it and the z1p I would greatly appreciate it. I'm not expecting a camera to be able to survive a dunking or a total downpour of rain, but I do want to be confident that it can withstand a light rain for at least for a short time. Since 99% of my personal shooting is done outdoors, this is very important to me. This factor almost led me to not buying the z1p, there are ~lots~ of reviews on the web stating that the z1p failed consistently when exposed to moisture. Those statements are of course completely false, at least with the unit I got. I've gotten mine pretty wet and it's ~never~ skipped a beat. :) Anywho, here I am a rambling... Nick --- "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick, > > I do not have the ZX/MZ series cameras in front of > me to compare, > but the back door of the MZ-S is interesting. There > is foam in two places > only. This points out to me that there was some > thought to sealing the > back. And also it is interesting to note the > different shapes and forms of > the back that I need to compare it to the ZX/MZ > line. > > I remember Bill Johnson in Utah telling me about > the 'abuses' his > ZX-? has gone through and this impressed me about > these 'plastic' cameras. > > Looking at the rest of the camera where all the > pieces join up with > other ones, it seems to be well sealed. I will look > at the other ones to > compare, but I feel that the sealing is good. I can > understand Pentax, and > other companies for that matter, not coming out and > saying the resistance to > water. You can just imagine, at least in the USA, > people suing them when > they place the camera in the washing machine and it > stops working. It is > better to have people treat it with kid gloves to > lessen abuse. > > César Matamoros II > Panama City, Florida > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Nicholas Wright > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:20 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: MZ-S; First impression > > > > What would be your opinion concerning how well the > > camera is sealed against the elements? > > > > Nick > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at > http://pug.komkon.org . > __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S; First impression
Nick, I do not have the ZX/MZ series cameras in front of me to compare, but the back door of the MZ-S is interesting. There is foam in two places only. This points out to me that there was some thought to sealing the back. And also it is interesting to note the different shapes and forms of the back that I need to compare it to the ZX/MZ line. I remember Bill Johnson in Utah telling me about the 'abuses' his ZX-? has gone through and this impressed me about these 'plastic' cameras. Looking at the rest of the camera where all the pieces join up with other ones, it seems to be well sealed. I will look at the other ones to compare, but I feel that the sealing is good. I can understand Pentax, and other companies for that matter, not coming out and saying the resistance to water. You can just imagine, at least in the USA, people suing them when they place the camera in the washing machine and it stops working. It is better to have people treat it with kid gloves to lessen abuse. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Nicholas Wright [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 1:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MZ-S; First impression > > What would be your opinion concerning how well the > camera is sealed against the elements? > > Nick > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
What would be your opinion concerning how well the camera is sealed against the elements? Nick __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S; First impression
'nuff said. I have yet to hold one, and this was just my interpretation of what someone else said. Chines whispers eh? Cheers Rob -Original Message- From: Matamoros, Cesar A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 June 2001 17:08 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MZ-S; First impression Rob, They are exclusive, you cannot do both at the same time. The button resets to Auto shutter speed as a general rule. If you wish to reset the AF sensor you need to push the switch beside the index mount lamp to SEL and then press the green button. I have done this quite often this past weekend. Quite easy to do. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Rob Brigham [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: MZ-S; First impression > > So the green button sets shutter speed to auto AND focus point to middle > sensor? What if I only want to do one or the other of these? > > eg. I want so stay in manual mode and select middle sensor. > or I want to keep current sensor active but put shutter to auto. > > is there any way to do this? > > I can guess the first that you toggle the AF sensors until the > appropriate one is selected, but what about goingto auto without > changing the sensor? > > Rob > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S; First impression
Rob, They are exclusive, you cannot do both at the same time. The button resets to Auto shutter speed as a general rule. If you wish to reset the AF sensor you need to push the switch beside the index mount lamp to SEL and then press the green button. I have done this quite often this past weekend. Quite easy to do. César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Rob Brigham [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: MZ-S; First impression > > So the green button sets shutter speed to auto AND focus point to middle > sensor? What if I only want to do one or the other of these? > > eg. I want so stay in manual mode and select middle sensor. > or I want to keep current sensor active but put shutter to auto. > > is there any way to do this? > > I can guess the first that you toggle the AF sensors until the > appropriate one is selected, but what about goingto auto without > changing the sensor? > > Rob > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S; First impression
So the green button sets shutter speed to auto AND focus point to middle sensor? What if I only want to do one or the other of these? eg. I want so stay in manual mode and select middle sensor. or I want to keep current sensor active but put shutter to auto. is there any way to do this? I can guess the first that you toggle the AF sensors until the appropriate one is selected, but what about goingto auto without changing the sensor? Rob -Original Message- From: Matamoros, Cesar A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 June 2001 14:38 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MZ-S; First impression I am not Pål but..., The ´green button´is used to reset the shutter speed. You cannot use the wheel to control the aperture. I find it intuitive to change aperture and set it to A or a value. The green button is also also used to reset the selected focus point to the middle sensor. This is a nicety that I would not have thought of but have used it quite a few times already. The green button is used to enable the wheel, before loading the camera, to set the exposure to wind the film to in the case of reloading a used roll of film. That´s all I can think of without the manual in front of me, César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida > -Original Message- > From: Arne Lie (f) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MZ-S; First impression > > Congratulations Pål!! > > I am very pleased to hear that the camera is silent! Also, I hope the > viewfinder is better for us using glasses. I suppose the MZ-Sn will > support > focal length in the dataimprinting... > > Pål, can you tell us what functionality this "green button" has. Can you > put > the camera into Av mode with lens set at A, using the wheel to control > aperture? And what about fast stroboscope synch for RTF flash: true or > not?! > > Arnie > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
Congratulations Pål!! I am very pleased to hear that the camera is silent! Also, I hope the viewfinder is better for us using glasses. I suppose the MZ-Sn will support focal length in the dataimprinting... Pål, can you tell us what functionality this "green button" has. Can you put the camera into Av mode with lens set at A, using the wheel to control aperture? And what about fast stroboscope synch for RTF flash: true or not?! Arnie - Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: MZ-S; First impression > Finally it arrived. I would first like to say that those who don't get why the MZ-S cost what it does are the same people that don't know why a Mercedes Benz cost more than a similar sized Korean car even if the Korean car has more equipment. > > This camera has the most solid, stiffest feel of any AF Pentax or probably any Pentax ever. > > In spite what other people say, I don't find that it is THAT small. Its quite high but rather short. > > What surprises me is that nobody has mentioned how quiet it is. The first time I fired the shutter I was certain that the camera was defective because I couldn't hear the mirror slam. I've never heard a quieter slr; its almost like a rangefinder. It has mirror prefire but does it need it? I've never used such a vibration free camera. The Z-1p is a noisy tractor in comparison Not only are the shutter and mirror quiet, but also the film transport. While the Z-1p when rewinding the film scares all the birds and wildlife away, the MZ-S is barely audible. > > The interface is excellent. I was to start with sceptical to the AF point selection switch but it make perfect sense. In contrast to other cameras, like most Canons for example, the MZ-S is not made for one armed people. The left arm is supposed to support the lens and adjust aperture and the focus point selector is right there. > I did expect to prefer to adjust the main dial by my indexfinger from the front but found it more convenient to just rest the thumb on the wheel from the back. The your index finger is free to operate the shutter release button, the "green button" and the DOF preview button. I cannot praise interface enough for those who mainly use aperture priority mode and manual. The MZ-S has both available instantaneously and interchangeably. I cannot imagine myself using exposure compensation anymore because you can set any exposure you want anytime with minimum of fiddling. > > AF is faster than on the Z-1p. This is really felt when using lenses like the FA* 600/4 and the FA* 200/4 Macro. It obviously use a more powerful motor than the Z-1p. I did however, have some problem with the camera hunting for focus while shooting birds this afternoon. However, it was under very demanding situations so I will wait for more experience until a make final judgement in this regard. It anyway offer real progress from any othe Pentax SLR in the AF department. > The automatic focus point selection seems surprisingly good by just trying pointing the camera at various subjects. > > The viewfinder is brighter but smaller than on the Z-1p. I like this; I find it easier to compose with a viewfinder where the eye don't have to wander around the screen in order to get the overview. I also find it easier to focus manually with slow lenses and low light than the Z-1p. The screen reminds me of the new LX screen and I believe its probably of the same type. > > It's also very stylish. Few pictures do it justice. Not only is it stylish but its styling is original and has presence. > > Yes it is true; Its sexy and its smells good. > > > Now the negative part: > > Dataimprinting: Why on earth is the use of auto bracketting imprinted but not focal length (like on the 645n)? I mean, the bracketed exposure values are of course imprinted anyway but why imprint whether bracketing was done with the auto bracketing function or done manually? I rather know what lens I used. > The MZ-S may not imprint actual shutter speed in bulb mode. This is a major bug; shutterspeed information is particularly important in low light photography in "B" mode. I'm not sure the MZ-S do this - the manual is a bit unclear here. It clearly says that bulb is a separate exposure mode. However, in the overview of imprinted exposure modes bulb is not listed. However, in the list of shutterspeed imprinting it says that in bulb mode BU is imprinted - but is it really imprinted in the shutterspeed field? If so, what is imprinted in the exposure mode field? On the 645n BU is imprinted in the exposure mode field and the actual time is imprinted in the shutterspeed field. The fact that the 645n print actual shutterspeed is not mentioned in the manual so theres still hope for that the MZ-S do this as well. > > > Oh...and mine came with both batteries and a stainless steel Pentax cofee mug! > > Pål > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscri
Re: MZ-S; First impression
Pål Jensen writes: > What surprises me is that nobody has mentioned how quiet it is. The first time I > fired the shutter I was certain that the camera was defective because I couldn't > hear the mirror slam. I've never heard a quieter slr; its almost like a > rangefinder. I've yet to see one but already I'm starting to like this camera. I have a pair of K2 bodies and a Z-1p and these are all very noisy cameras. I'd love a quiet one. > AF is faster than on the Z-1p. This is really felt when using lenses like the > FA* 600/4 and the FA* 200/4 Macro. It obviously use a more powerful motor than > the Z-1p. I did however, have some problem with the camera hunting for focus > while shooting birds this afternoon. I'd be interested to know how good it is in "servo" mode, particularly while cranking away at 2.5fps on a moving subject. Also, does it do trap-focus with a MF lens, like the Z-1p? If this also works with an AF lens set to MF, I'd be really pleased as the Z-1p doesn't do this (I can think of situations where you wouldn't want to use "servo" AF for this). > Dataimprinting: Why on earth is the use of auto bracketting imprinted but not > focal length (like on the 645n)? I mean, the bracketed exposure values are of > course imprinted anyway but why imprint whether bracketing was done with the > auto bracketing function or done manually? I rather know what lens I used. I agree with you, but since I do a lot of shooting with MF lenses it would be of slightly lesser use to me. I do like to record which lens I used but most of the time I don't remember and can't always tell off the slide. It doesn't help that I'm several rolls behind in my "sorting"... > The MZ-S may not imprint actual shutter speed in bulb mode. That's a shame. I don't use B much but if I did I would like to know the actual shutter speed. If it doesn't do it now, I'm sure the firmware could be updated in future production (or maybe the MZ-Sn). > Oh...and mine came with both batteries and a stainless steel Pentax cofee mug! Gee, your distributor must actually respect his customers! The guys down here don't have a very good reputation at my local camera shop (which is nothing to do with Pentax; they also represent Contax which has a loyal following). Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S; First impression
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: MZ-S; First impression >Dataimprinting: Why on earth is the use of auto bracketting imprinted but not focal >length (like on the 645n)? I >mean, the bracketed exposure values are of course imprinted anyway but why imprint >whether bracketing was >done with the auto bracketing function or done manually? I rather know what lens I >used. >The MZ-S may not imprint actual shutter speed in bulb mode. This is a major bug; >shutterspeed information is >particularly important in low light photography in "B" mode. I'm not sure the MZ-S do >this - the manual is a bit >unclear here. It clearly says that bulb is a separate exposure mode. However, in the >overview of imprinted >exposure modes bulb is not listed. However, in the list of shutterspeed imprinting it >says that in bulb >mode BU is imprinted - but is it really imprinted in the shutterspeed field? If so, >what is imprinted in the >exposure mode field? Ah ah, score one for the 645N... >On the 645n BU is imprinted in the exposure mode field and the actual time is >imprinted >in the shutterspeed field. The fact that the 645n print actual shutterspeed is not >mentioned in the manual so I have a brochure that VERY CLEARLY states that actual exposure time is imprinted for the 645N in Bulb mode. >theres still hope for that the MZ-S do this as well. Please let us know ASAP. I know shooting low light / astro type photo is a tall order right now up north, but even a black frame with lens cap on would clear this up. Say, 35 seconds, f2 ... >Oh...and mine came with both batteries and a stainless steel Pentax cofee mug! >Pål At this point, I think I would save for the 645N, assuming it has good cold weather performance... This business of BUlb mode not imprinting the actual time is a MAJOR, MAJOR show stopper for me. Michel - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
on 2/10/01 3:23 PM, Mike Johnston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm reasonably > certain at this point that Cosina is subcontracted to make the barrel for > the screwmount version of the 43mm Limited lens. Hi Mike and all, The fact: I happen to know through Pentax source that they are getting the barrel portion of this particular lenses (Leica Screw Mount) from a subcontractor, but they are not Cosina for sure. The speculation: Reason for this is probably because this subcontractor has Leica screw cutting set-up, or making Leica lens parts etc. I do not know if Cosina may be using the same source for some other lenses. It is not really fair to Mike that I can not disclose the source (like he could not :-) But I just happened to have this info directly from a solid Pentax source (nothing mysterious about it :-) so that I wanted to present the correct info. Respected Mike was half right (on subcontracting) and half wrong (on Cosina) on this account :-) Cheers, Ken - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
I prefer the "lost in Ulan Bator" rumor --- or maybe "encased in ice at the Harbin Ice Festival" seeing as it is the season and its " in the area." Otis Wright Pål Jensen wrote: > Matjaz wrote: > > I'd like to repeat that the camera looks just like on all the > pictures we saw so far, so if Paal is correct with his rumour about > the delay because of the specification upgrade, it might happen > that the MZ-S presented at PMA might look a bit different. Let's wait > and see. > > REPLY: > It was a rumor from japanese Pentax lists, posted here because the source has >obvious inside contacts and has proven reliable in the past. However, rumors are much >like myths and legends; they have a core of truth but get distorted when everyone add >their interpretation of them along the way. > I believe theres no reason to believe that the MZ-S is significantly changed or >delayed. Whats possibly delayed is the digital version (apparently there will be a 6 >megapixel Minolta 7 soon which will compete head on with the Pentax) and/or the so >called "flagship". A possible source for this rumor is that somone have got the >message that the flagship is delayed (something we have known for a long time) and >this person believed that the MZ-S is the flagship. > Another reason for not believing in the delay of the MZ-S is the fact that for >approximately one year ago the rumors said (posted here) that the MZ-S (then labeled >MZ-1 or top model or whatever) will be shown at PMA 2001 and possibly >unofficially shown at Photokina in September 2000. This is pretty much what happened. > However, I have no doubt that the source of this rumor had access to confidential >info. Something has been delayed and upgraded. Its just the interpretation of it that >turn out wrong. We also know (at least I do :-)) that the flagship was delayed >BECAUSE of the MZ-S; also a possible source for confusion and mix-up between the two. > > Pål > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S: first impression
Matjaz wrote: I'd like to repeat that the camera looks just like on all the pictures we saw so far, so if Paal is correct with his rumour about the delay because of the specification upgrade, it might happen that the MZ-S presented at PMA might look a bit different. Let's wait and see. REPLY: It was a rumor from japanese Pentax lists, posted here because the source has obvious inside contacts and has proven reliable in the past. However, rumors are much like myths and legends; they have a core of truth but get distorted when everyone add their interpretation of them along the way. I believe theres no reason to believe that the MZ-S is significantly changed or delayed. Whats possibly delayed is the digital version (apparently there will be a 6 megapixel Minolta 7 soon which will compete head on with the Pentax) and/or the so called "flagship". A possible source for this rumor is that somone have got the message that the flagship is delayed (something we have known for a long time) and this person believed that the MZ-S is the flagship. Another reason for not believing in the delay of the MZ-S is the fact that for approximately one year ago the rumors said (posted here) that the MZ-S (then labeled MZ-1 or top model or whatever) will be shown at PMA 2001 and possibly unofficially shown at Photokina in September 2000. This is pretty much what happened. However, I have no doubt that the source of this rumor had access to confidential info. Something has been delayed and upgraded. Its just the interpretation of it that turn out wrong. We also know (at least I do :-)) that the flagship was delayed BECAUSE of the MZ-S; also a possible source for confusion and mix-up between the two. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
Did you happen to see the battery grip also? -paul No, it wasn't there. Neither was the new flash. Only the body togehter with new FA 24-90/3.5-4.5. Speaking for the lens, it looks like typical FA lens with black barrel. It feels better than my FA 28-70/4 though. Both zoom and focusing rings have long enough throw to ensure good feel of them, for a AF lens of course. It seems a good lens zoom to me. BTW, I had FA 77/1.8 for the second time in my hands here and I have to say that I really, really liked it. It is so smooth, MF feel is the best I ever tried in AF lens and AF focusing is precise and quiet enough - at least with MZ-S. I really have to thank to Pentax Slovenia that they assured MZ-S body together with the new 24-90 for this photo exhibiton. Thanks. Matjaz Matjaz Osojnik, B.Sc.M.E. Hajdrihova 4, IBE, d.d., 1000 Ljubljana Slovenia Europe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
Matjaz OSOJNIK wrote: > . So, today I went to the fair and, right on the shelf, there it > was: black MZ-S with new FA 3.5-4.5/24-90mm attached. My (Pentax) > heart stopped beating for a sec. ;-) Waauu!! I was able to take it > into my hands without any rush. It looks exactly the same like MZ-S > on the latest photos with MZ-S written on the left upper side of the > body. So, here are my first impressions: .. Did you observe an MLU feature? Mike. Nope. It might be that among 17 PF (pentax custom functions) there is one for pseudo MLU like PZ1p has it - 2 secs delay. BTW, all PF are reachable by seting the left dial on PF sybmol, than turning main dial until you scrool to the desired PF and than changing the value by pressing AE lock button. Matjaz Matjaz Osojnik, B.Sc.M.E. Hajdrihova 4, IBE, d.d., 1000 Ljubljana Slovenia Europe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
Herbert wrote: You're oh, so lucky! What about maximum shutter speed? Did you get a chance to check it? Herbet. Well, I wanted to check max shutter speed and X sync speed, but while trying to figure out all other functions, I simply forgot :(. But since the body is so small (it really is more less the same size as other MZ cameras, I figure shutter speeds re the same as specified so far - that is 1/6000 and 1/180 respectively. Matjaz Matjaz Osojnik, B.Sc.M.E. Hajdrihova 4, IBE, d.d., 1000 Ljubljana Slovenia Europe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
Matjaz wrote: > Hi all, > > when I bought FA* 24/2.0 few days ago the Pentax representative here > in Ljubljana told me that it is possible they will have MZ-S body > (one of four in Europe!) on display on photo exhibiton which takes > place in Ljubljana, from today till saturday. So, today I went to > the fair and, right on the shelf, there it was: black MZ-S with new > FA 3.5-4.5/24-90mm attached. My (Pentax) heart stopped beating > for a sec. ;-) Waauu!! I was able to take it into my hands without > any rush. It looks exactly the same like MZ-S on the latest photos > with MZ-S written on the left upper side of the body. So, here are my > first impressions: > > 1. It IS small. And I like the design. Wow. And I almost skipped this Digest. Thanks very much for the report, Matjaz! It should be up on the Pentax website in only a few days. I'm really looking forward to this camera. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
In a message dated 2/6/01 10:22:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Evil evil evil! No more descriptions of the MZ-S, please, I'm starting to want it and I can't afford it!! -Aaron >> "That will $972.37 sir, cash or charge? Aaron, that's only $30.25 a month w/interest. Suda Mafud, A member of the http://www.Africana.com online community [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S: first impression
You're oh, so lucky! What about maximum shutter speed? Did you get a chance to check it? Herbet. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
