Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hi! I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. Welcome from sunny Israel. I think I can learn a thing or two from you as well... At least so I think having looked at GESO ;-) you posted. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html I think some time ago there was a thread about names to faces... Or faces to names... Anyway, I posted a shot similar to your auto portrait. I was hiding behind my biggest lens at the time. Well, I got lots of fingers shaking at me ;-). Welcome and beware of enablement... Boris
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
"Heidi & Jon VW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thanks for the welcome! And I think someone else warned me not to believe >everything. As a mom of 5 kids, I'm pretty good at figuring out who to >believe. ;-) So that would be "no one", right? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
> Hi, > I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, > I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 > great kids. > > http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html > > Thanks, > Heidi > Hi Heidi and welcome to the list. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtin.:-) I like your slide show very much. My fav's ar 2,3,5/6,7 & 11, so pretty much all of them. Looking forward to seeing more work. Dave Brooks
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Thanks for the welcome (and the warning)! ;-) Heidi - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet On 10/12/05, Heidi & Jon VW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html lovely gallery! welcome 2 the list. don't believe anything mark roberts says - except when he says not to listen 2 me. -frank, the 1-armed typist -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Thanks for the welcome! And I think someone else warned me not to believe everything. As a mom of 5 kids, I'm pretty good at figuring out who to believe. ;-) Heidi - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:50 AM Subject: Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet "Heidi & Jon VW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Hello and welcome! Nice stuff there - I especially like Shapes and Waterfall. Good to have you on the list. Don't believe anything Frank or Cotty tell you ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
On 10/12/05, Heidi & Jon VW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, > I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 > great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography > (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face > all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. > ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San > Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I > learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging > out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. > > I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, > GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a > GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche > mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which > are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, > bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! > > http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html lovely gallery! welcome 2 the list. don't believe anything mark roberts says - except when he says not to listen 2 me. -frank, the 1-armed typist -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Thanks, Godfrey, and it was great to meet you, too! Heidi - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet Hello Heidi! Nice to meet you. A pretty neat gallery selection you've put up ... It's not an "artsy" photo, I like the picture of the "big guns" you posted. Whew, the notion of carrying something like that around SF all day tires me out just thinking about it! I'm glad there are others who have the courage and stamina... ;-) Godfrey On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Heidi & Jon VW wrote: Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/ 2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hello Heidi! Nice to meet you. A pretty neat gallery selection you've put up ... It's not an "artsy" photo, I like the picture of the "big guns" you posted. Whew, the notion of carrying something like that around SF all day tires me out just thinking about it! I'm glad there are others who have the courage and stamina... ;-) Godfrey On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Heidi & Jon VW wrote: Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/ 2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
On 10/13/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't believe anything Frank or Cotty tell you ;-) right -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
"Heidi & Jon VW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Hello and welcome! Nice stuff there - I especially like Shapes and Waterfall. Good to have you on the list. Don't believe anything Frank or Cotty tell you ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
G'day from West Australia Heidi. That's an excellent gallery. "Lunch, "Fading light" & "Shapes" really stand out. BTW, I think someones forgotten to warn you about who not to believe :-) Dave On 10/13/05, Heidi & Jon VW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, > I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 > great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography > (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face > all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. > ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San > Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I > learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging > out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. > > I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, > GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a > GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche > mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which > are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, > bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! > > http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html > > Thanks, > Heidi > >
RE: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hi, Heidi some nice pix in the gallery. I like the Waterfall for its creative approach. You've got a good, creative eye. Let's see more of your work. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Heidi & Jon VW > > http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html
Re: New to the list - Thank you!
Thanks so much to all for the warm welcome and comments on the pictures! A nice boost to my confidence! (But always feel free to critique, even harshly, any pictures I post.) Thanks again, Heidi
RE: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Welcome Heidi ;-) People say you will learn a lot of things here. That's nonsense. You will just end up with a lot of stuff stuffed away on top shelf of your closet, ;-) the list calls it enablement's. But entertaining, yeah, sure is. Tim Part time father of two weirdoes. Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: E.R.N. Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 13. oktober 2005 01:18 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet > > Heidi & Jon VW wrote: > > > Hi, > > I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is > > Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife > > and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I > > love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired > > of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user > > (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to > > tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great > > time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to > > learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from > > everyone's expertise & knowledge. > > > > I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms > > (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, > > I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a > > self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to > > the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the > > group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on > > anything. I'm here to learn! > > > > http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10- > 08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html > > > > Thanks, > > Heidi > > > > > Welcome, Heidi! > Nice pics. > > ERNR > (also a full-time mother; not as many children though) > >
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Heidi & Jon VW wrote: Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi Welcome, Heidi! Nice pics. ERNR (also a full-time mother; not as many children though)
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hi Heidi, Welcome to the list. If you're here to learn, you've come to the right place. In between the moans about the inevitable demise of Pentax, the discussions about beer, and the occasional political flame war, you'll find a lot of great information from a wealth of knowledgeable people. What's more, it's all very entertaining. Paul Stenquist On Oct 12, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Heidi and Jon welcome from my part of the world first. I like the "Jesus loves you" shot and the "shapes" most out of your fist GESO. As you may have read already, "fresh blood" especially for the PUG is most welcome. greetings Markus Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10 -08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Welcome aboard. Liked the images posted, nice work. Just curious as to what you shot before the *ist DS? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Heidi & Jon VW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PM Subject: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi
RE: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hi Heidi and Jon welcome from my part of the world first. I like the "Jesus loves you" shot and the "shapes" most out of your fist GESO. As you may have read already, "fresh blood" especially for the PUG is most welcome. greetings Markus >>Hi, >>I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name >>is Heidi, >>bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! >> >>http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html >> >>Thanks, >>Heidi >>
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
In a message dated 10/12/2005 12:59:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi == Don't think you have to learn lots, Heidi, some very nice stuff. I especially like Shapes. Good alignment. And the two Blue Angel shots are great (especially for a smaller gun). ;-). I love fading light, nice shot of the bridge. I guess you went that way home. Wish I had. I want to take some bridge shots some day. Very very nice, overall. Welcome to the list! Marnie aka Doe But did I have to look sooo wrinkly? Hehehehehehehe.
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hello Heidi, Glad that you joined us. Hopefully it will be a good experience and you will be able to learn lots. Nice gallery! You may have gotten a better angle than me with 'Rhythm'. You also managed to catch a shot of Marnie at lunch. Could be the only one of those. I like the 'Shapes' image very much, nicer than what I took - you had a better vision on it than me. I really like what you did with 'Love Ignored' - the B&W with spot color really brings home the point - nice bit of image manipulation. Your first 'Blue Angels' shot is quite nice - Hopefully that lens wasn't too hard to handle. 'Fading Light' is excellent! This is one to work on a bit and get a big print of - well done! Thanks for sharing the gallery. Now I need to get on the stick and get my Norcal gallery up. -- Bruce Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 12:58:30 PM, you wrote: HJV> Hi, HJV> I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, HJV> I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 HJV> great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography HJV> (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face HJV> all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. HJV> ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San HJV> Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I HJV> learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging HJV> out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. HJV> I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, HJV> GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it HJV> straightso, I'm sharing a HJV> GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche HJV> mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which HJV> are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, HJV> bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! HJV> http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html HJV> Thanks, HJV> Heidi
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Welcome. You've got some great pictures there. This month we are having a monster PUG, because everybody's feeling guilty. Here's where you submit: http://www.oksne.net/autopug/pugform.asp The theme is "Useless". Interpret as you will. Deadline 20 October. Best wishes John On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:58:30 +0100, Heidi & Jon VW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
Hi Heidi, very welcome to the list! Greetings from Scandinavia. (I'm an old time member (since January 1998, I believe), who hasn't been contributing too much lately, but I'm still around.) Thanks for showing your pictures. You say you've got a lot to learn, but your pictures clearly shows that you already got a good eye for shape and geometry as well as being observant of people and various expressions of life. (Was the first picture shot on film? I think I spotted some dust spots that could have been removed.) Anyway, don't hesitate to ask questions. We like that. Thanks, Lasse - Original Message - From: "Heidi & Jon VW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax" Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet Hi, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography (much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Thanks, Heidi
Re: New to the list & a GESO from NorCal Meet
On 12/10/05, Heidi & Jon VW, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hi, >I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Heidi, >I'm from Roseville, CA, and my full-time job is being a wife and a mom to 5 >great kids. But in what little spare time I have, I love doing photography >(much to the annoyance of my kids who get tired of a camera in their face >all the time). I'm a fairly new Pentax user (bought the istDS about 6 mos. >ago) and was invited by Bruce Dayton to tag along with the group in San >Francisco last weekend. I had a great time and learned a lot--one thing I >learned is that I have a lot to learn! So, I'm looking forward to hanging >out here and gleaning from everyone's expertise & knowledge. > >I had to scan through the list awhile to figure out all the acronyms (PESO, >GESO, PAW, PUG, etc.), but I think I have it straightso, I'm sharing a >GESO from the day in SF. The first pic is a self-portrait in the "cliche >mirror shot". The arrows will get you to the other pictures, some of which >are similar to others taken by the group. Please feel free to comment, good, >bad or indifferent, on anything. I'm here to learn! > >http://vwfamily.photosite.com/SF/2005-10-08_San_FranciscoIMGP2484001.html Hi Heidi, Great work there. I like 3, 4, 7, and 11 very much. Welcome aboard :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: new to the list
Hi! DS> I'm new to the list... I subscribed last week and just sort of read for DS> a bit to get the feel for everything. I have to say that I find the list DS> warm, inviting, and most importantly, comfortable. It is readily DS> apparent to me that many here are dear friends, and everyone seems DS> genuine and wonderful. DS> That and the photos are simply stunning. The lake photo simply amazed me DS> to no end. David, welcome to the list. Do post some PUGs, some PAWs and some OTs... The ride of your life has just begun . Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
RE: washed out skies (was RE: new to the list)
David wrote: "Thanks for the suggestions! It was previously suggested that I try a polarizing filter, which I shall do. But, one might ask, why would that help? (I guess I like knowing the "whys") But, be that as it may, it seems that most of my sky shots are washed out, but now and then a shot with wonderful skies creeps in for no known reason. The digital camera (gasp) seems to produce a sky color that just leaps out of the photo." David, matching exposures between the sky and the foreground can be tricky. The sky can sometimes be four or more stops brighter than your subject. They make what are called graduated neutral density filters for situations like that. The filter works by blocking some of the light from the sky while allowing the foreground full exposure. This is a link to one of the cheaper ones: http://www.adorama.com/CKA121.html here are a couple websites that explain their use: http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/content/2003/aug/howto_graduated.html http://members.aol.com/kevinoneil/nd.html I hope this helps. Tom Reese
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Ah I like landscapes more than anything (mostly because, well, truly, I need more practice with people). Perhaps my trusty Super Program isn't metering quite what I expect, thus the washed out sky. I shall go experiment now! Thank you all! david -Original Message- From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: washed out skies (was RE: new to the list) Hi David, Just another thought, maybe you're not metering correctly? If this is the case, the solution depends on what you're shooting. If you're doing landscapes, unless you get it at a good time, chances are your sky and your foreground will require different exposures. Solution? To get a darker sky, meter off something slightly brighter than what you'd usually do, then lock your exposure settings (or remember them) then recompose. Another thing to consider for landscapes is ND filters, to help balance the dark and light (of course the exposure might come out 'too perfect' to be believable.. but just experiment. If you're shooting people with sky in the background, the use of a slightly quicker exposure with fill flash will help you darken your sky too. Good luck! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "David Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:36 AM Subject: washed out skies (was RE: new to the list) > Derby: > > > Blue skies washed out? Someone further down the digest has > > probably answered this: > > > Use a polariser > > Shoot later or earlier in the day > > Try a different lab > > Pop the camera on a tripe, and take two shots, one exposed for the > > sky, one for the land, and combine them in photoshop. > > Shoot infra-red > > Thanks for the suggestions! It was previously suggested that I try a > polarizing filter, which I shall do. But, one might ask, why would that > help? (I guess I like knowing the "whys") > > I had a UV filter which I long suspected was the problem. It seemed with > the UV filter on the skies were washed out more often than not, then one > fine day I accidentally (and I say "accidentally" because surely if I > KNEW how do this on demand then it wouldn't be an issue now, would it? > ) took a great shot with a wonderfully blue sky. Perhaps I need a > better UV filter? This one is older, which means "when I was lucky to > afford a filter at all." > > But, be that as it may, it seems that most of my sky shots are washed > out, but now and then a shot with wonderful skies creeps in for no known > reason. The digital camera (gasp) seems to produce a sky color that just > leaps out of the photo. > > Thanks! > david > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004
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David Schneider wrote: Hello! I'm new to the list... Welcome very muchly David. Blue skies washed out? Someone further down the digest has probably answered this: Use a polariser Shoot later or earlier in the day Try a different lab Pop the camera on a tripe, and take two shots, one exposed for the sky, one for the land, and combine them in photoshop. Shoot infra-red Hope you enjoy being here. I certainly do. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello David, > Three things to remember: > > 1 - Boz's web site (http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/) > > 2 - Stan's page (http://stans-photography.info/) > > 3 - Don't believe anything Frank Theriault says ;-) > Ah, yes. Silly me. I forgot to mention that last one - possibly the most important piece of advice he'll get all day. Thanks, Mark! cheers, frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 16:10:40 -0600, David Schneider wrote: > Crazy is good. Sanity and I have never had all that close of a > relationship anyway. When I get a decent grip on reality, I'm gonna strangle it. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Here Ya' go! Boz's site: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/ Stans site: http://stans-photography.info/ Don > -Original Message- > From: David Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: new to the list > > > Actually, I used to live in North Carolina, but moved out to New Mexico > about 7 years back or so. Give or take. > > Crazy is good. Sanity and I have never had all that close of a > relationship anyway. > > Where might one find links to the wondrous sites you mentioned? > > Thanks! > david > > -Original Message- > From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: new to the list > > Let's see, > Just joined the list, > Thinks we're all chummy, > looking at a new camera, > needs help with camera usage... > > MUHuAaha!!! > > Fresh meat for the "enablers" and a possible candidate for the > "Brotherhood"!!! > > David, start looking for airfares to North Carolina in the Spring... > > Welcome to the list. > It gets a little crazy and there's usually a lot more traffic than we've > had > of late. > > Ask any question and you're sure to get at least three credible answers > and > six that are totally loopy ;) > Been to Boz's Pentax site? Possibly the best anywhere. Stan's lens > site is > great too... > Be sure to check out the previous years galleries at the PUG site. That > should eat up a perfectly good work day :~) > > Now...Where IS my Super Program? > > Cory Waters > Atlanta GA > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "David Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:15 PM > Subject: new to the list > > > > >First, there are always new folks coming on the list, to whom this is > a > > new > > >subject. > > > > Like, for example, ME. > > > > Hello! > > > > I'm new to the list... I subscribed last week and just sort of read > for > > a bit to get the feel for everything. I have to say that I find the > list > > warm, inviting, and most importantly, comfortable. It is readily > > apparent to me that many here are dear friends, and everyone seems > > genuine and wonderful. > > > > That and the photos are simply stunning. The lake photo simply amazed > me > > to no end. > > > > I've been shooting for a long time, but only for the family vacations > > and informal vacations. I really enjoy photography, though, and want > to > > learn to use what I have a lot better. Hence, a list like this is > > invaluable. I have a Pentax Super Program which I received as a > > graduation gift. I treasure that camera, and it has remained my only > > 35mm. This is not to say that I don't have some techniques I need to > > master though (for example, it seems that my blue skies are ALWAYS > > washed out). I also have a digital camera (an Olympus; please don't > hold > > that against me) but am strongly thinking about a new one. Guess which > > one that would be? > > > > Anyway, it seemed like an opportune moment to say "hello"! > > Thank you all for such a great place! > > david > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > >
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Hello David, Three things to remember: 1 - Boz's web site (http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/) 2 - Stan's page (http://stans-photography.info/) 3 - Don't believe anything Frank Theriault says ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Actually, I used to live in North Carolina, but moved out to New Mexico about 7 years back or so. Give or take. Crazy is good. Sanity and I have never had all that close of a relationship anyway. Where might one find links to the wondrous sites you mentioned? Thanks! david -Original Message- From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new to the list Let's see, Just joined the list, Thinks we're all chummy, looking at a new camera, needs help with camera usage... MUHuAaha!!! Fresh meat for the "enablers" and a possible candidate for the "Brotherhood"!!! David, start looking for airfares to North Carolina in the Spring... Welcome to the list. It gets a little crazy and there's usually a lot more traffic than we've had of late. Ask any question and you're sure to get at least three credible answers and six that are totally loopy ;) Been to Boz's Pentax site? Possibly the best anywhere. Stan's lens site is great too... Be sure to check out the previous years galleries at the PUG site. That should eat up a perfectly good work day :~) Now...Where IS my Super Program? Cory Waters Atlanta GA - Original Message - From: "David Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: new to the list > >First, there are always new folks coming on the list, to whom this is a > new > >subject. > > Like, for example, ME. > > Hello! > > I'm new to the list... I subscribed last week and just sort of read for > a bit to get the feel for everything. I have to say that I find the list > warm, inviting, and most importantly, comfortable. It is readily > apparent to me that many here are dear friends, and everyone seems > genuine and wonderful. > > That and the photos are simply stunning. The lake photo simply amazed me > to no end. > > I've been shooting for a long time, but only for the family vacations > and informal vacations. I really enjoy photography, though, and want to > learn to use what I have a lot better. Hence, a list like this is > invaluable. I have a Pentax Super Program which I received as a > graduation gift. I treasure that camera, and it has remained my only > 35mm. This is not to say that I don't have some techniques I need to > master though (for example, it seems that my blue skies are ALWAYS > washed out). I also have a digital camera (an Olympus; please don't hold > that against me) but am strongly thinking about a new one. Guess which > one that would be? > > Anyway, it seemed like an opportune moment to say "hello"! > Thank you all for such a great place! > david > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004
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Let's see, Just joined the list, Thinks we're all chummy, looking at a new camera, needs help with camera usage... MUHuAaha!!! Fresh meat for the "enablers" and a possible candidate for the "Brotherhood"!!! David, start looking for airfares to North Carolina in the Spring... Welcome to the list. It gets a little crazy and there's usually a lot more traffic than we've had of late. Ask any question and you're sure to get at least three credible answers and six that are totally loopy ;) Been to Boz's Pentax site? Possibly the best anywhere. Stan's lens site is great too... Be sure to check out the previous years galleries at the PUG site. That should eat up a perfectly good work day :~) Now...Where IS my Super Program? Cory Waters Atlanta GA - Original Message - From: "David Schneider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: new to the list > >First, there are always new folks coming on the list, to whom this is a > new > >subject. > > Like, for example, ME. > > Hello! > > I'm new to the list... I subscribed last week and just sort of read for > a bit to get the feel for everything. I have to say that I find the list > warm, inviting, and most importantly, comfortable. It is readily > apparent to me that many here are dear friends, and everyone seems > genuine and wonderful. > > That and the photos are simply stunning. The lake photo simply amazed me > to no end. > > I've been shooting for a long time, but only for the family vacations > and informal vacations. I really enjoy photography, though, and want to > learn to use what I have a lot better. Hence, a list like this is > invaluable. I have a Pentax Super Program which I received as a > graduation gift. I treasure that camera, and it has remained my only > 35mm. This is not to say that I don't have some techniques I need to > master though (for example, it seems that my blue skies are ALWAYS > washed out). I also have a digital camera (an Olympus; please don't hold > that against me) but am strongly thinking about a new one. Guess which > one that would be? > > Anyway, it seemed like an opportune moment to say "hello"! > Thank you all for such a great place! > david > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004
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David Schneider posted: > Hello! > > I'm new to the list... Welcome!! > I have a Pentax Super Program which I received as a > graduation gift. I used to have a Super Program. Rather liked it. > I treasure that camera, and it has remained my only > 35mm. This is not to say that I don't have some techniques I need to > master though (for example, it seems that my blue skies are ALWAYS > washed out). Have you tried a polarizing filter? > I also have a digital camera (an Olympus; please don't hold > that against me) but am strongly thinking about a new one. Guess which > one that would be? Many people on this list do have equipment made by inferior* -- er, I mean, other -- companies, and we tolerate that. (I myself have some non-Pentax cameras: 6x6 TLRs and 35mm rangefinders.) ERN living in Texas *this is intended entirely as a joke; I am not stating that I believe all other camera companies to be inferior to Pentax.
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All: I should have mentioned before where I live--which is Tijeras, New Mexico, USA. (Tijeras is just east of Albuquerque, except that I am straight up from it because I live way up in the mountains. Albuquerque is where Bugs Bunny made a left hand turn ). And, for those of you who know of Jan and Dean, I travel through the original Dead Man's Curve they sang about on the way to the city on Route 66. It is a nice place to live, all in all. david --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004
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Welcome to the list, David - the list of many strange and great tales about photographers, photographs, computers, operating systems, cars, organizatons, flame wars, beliefs, recommendations, knowlegde etc. etc. and photographic equipment and some times Pentax cameras and lenses as well as a lot of other other stuff. Cheers Jens, writing this from Denmark in Scandinavia. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: David Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. august 2004 19:16 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: new to the list >First, there are always new folks coming on the list, to whom this is a new >subject. Like, for example, ME. Hello! I'm new to the list... I subscribed last week and just sort of read for a bit to get the feel for everything. I have to say that I find the list warm, inviting, and most importantly, comfortable. It is readily apparent to me that many here are dear friends, and everyone seems genuine and wonderful. That and the photos are simply stunning. The lake photo simply amazed me to no end. I've been shooting for a long time, but only for the family vacations and informal vacations. I really enjoy photography, though, and want to learn to use what I have a lot better. Hence, a list like this is invaluable. I have a Pentax Super Program which I received as a graduation gift. I treasure that camera, and it has remained my only 35mm. This is not to say that I don't have some techniques I need to master though (for example, it seems that my blue skies are ALWAYS washed out). I also have a digital camera (an Olympus; please don't hold that against me) but am strongly thinking about a new one. Guess which one that would be? Anyway, it seemed like an opportune moment to say "hello"! Thank you all for such a great place! david --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/2004
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Ahhh, the Super Program... It was the first 35mm SLR I ever purchased - actually the first camera I ever purchased. It served me well. I still have it - it looks even more beat up than my original LX :-) And, welcome to the list, Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 1:53 PM Hi David, Welcome to the list! It's always nice to see a new "face" here. Lots of us here have Super Programs, myself included. Great little camera. See you 'round the list! Amita
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"tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Yes. We'll actually both get there on Thursday and claim a tent spot. >> I was just curious if anyone else was "treating" their wife >> (of hubby if applicable) to the joy of our company. > >I might talk #7 into coming down, we'll see. Dr. Lisa will definitely be coming down to NC but I don't know if I will be able to coax her out to GFM. (She'll probably be doing a 100 mile bike ride or some such event that weekend, if I know her.) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On 22/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >How many spouses are coming to GFM? Nope. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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> How many spouses are coming to GFM? > Mine, for one (and the young as well.) Can't leave home without them. (I can hear poor Cesar gnashing his teeth now!)
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I might talk #7 into coming down, we'll see. tv > -Original Message- > From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yes. We'll actually both get there on Thursday and claim a > tent spot. > I was just curious if anyone else was "treating" their wife > (of hubby if > applicable) to the joy of our company. > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
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Yes. We'll actually both get there on Thursday and claim a tent spot. I was just curious if anyone else was "treating" their wife (of hubby if applicable) to the joy of our company. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Phyllis will probably be up Friday evening. Debbie will be there won't she? Bill - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: RE: New to the list > How many spouses are coming to GFM? > >
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How many spouses are coming to GFM?
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On 22/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Cotty wrote: >> In fact, age 10 until now, and then beyond. Who knows what awaits us >> after this life ? > >Frankencot. Scary. LOL. The voices in my head keep telling me I'm on the right track. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Cotty wrote: When I was 10, was an adventure that will stay with me forever. Hm, from age 10 til now - I guess that's a good definition of forever.: ^) Larry
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Fantastic Eleanor Wow! To think that for once I will be knowing quite a few people at a PDML gathering beforehand. Will keep the LXen at bay, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:51 PM -- -- > And the PDML list is growing for GFM... -- > -- > César -- > Panama City, Florida -- -- Got my email confirmation that my registration was -- received. --
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Did Cotty fall apart again? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: RE: New to the list > I'll join you. > > > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > > >From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >*I need a drink* > > > > _ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >
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I'll join you. "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *I need a drink* _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Don't worry about Adelheid, just keep an eye on Phyllis. tv > -Original Message- > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Who's going to protect her from tv. He needs an assistant. > > Bill > > - Original Message - > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: New to the list > > > > On 20/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > > > >Adelheid is coming too? > > > > > >Woo-Hoo! > > > > > >This is getting better and better all the time. > > > > > > > > > > She's a real cutey, too. > > > > And has a sense of humour ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Cotty > > > > > > ___/\__ > > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > > _ > > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk > > > > > > >
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On 20 Oct 2003 at 18:50, Thrainn Vigfusson wrote: > If you mean the Thordur Hermannsson born on the 21st of November 1955, then I'm > afraid I don't know him, since he lives on the opposite side of the country. And > I'm afraid we're not very related. Our nearest common ancestors are Thorarinn > Jonsson (1630 - 1699) and Halldora Thorsteinsdottir (1630- ???) Touché ;-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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- Original Message - From: "Mike Ignatiev" Subject: Re: New to the list > I'll quote this to the judge at my ticket hearing > in a couple of weeks -- 80 mph: "Yor Hono(u)r, but this > is what this has been design for, dammit!". > If it works and he lets me off the hook (not to > mention the $200 ticket), I'll even agree with > the "low-cost option" part. The owners manual for my BMW suggested doing an Italian tuneup every month or so. Of course, I got pulled over by the RCMP for doing just over 170kph one day. I pulled out my owners manual and brandished the relevant page at him. Surprisingly, he let me go. William Robb
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Who's going to protect her from tv. He needs an assistant. Bill - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: New to the list > On 20/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >Adelheid is coming too? > > > >Woo-Hoo! > > > >This is getting better and better all the time. > > > > > > She's a real cutey, too. > > And has a sense of humour ;-) > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk > >
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> >>>For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to > >>>follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new > >>>roads which a map doesn't show. > >> > >>Malcolm, you photograph motorway exits? > >>I'd like to see your collection ;-) > > > >I took a couple of pictures of a motorway exit this weekend, actually. > >Can't say I have a collection, though :-) > > *I need a drink* Sounds like as good excuse as any.
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Cotty: For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new roads which a map doesn't show. Malcolm, you photograph motorway exits? I'd like to see your collection ;-) I took a couple of pictures of a motorway exit this weekend, actually. Can't say I have a collection, though :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
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On 20/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to >follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new >roads which a map doesn't show. Malcolm, you photograph motorway exits? I'd like to see your collection ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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> And the PDML list is growing for GFM... > > César > Panama City, Florida Got my email confirmation that my registration was received.
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If anyone on the list plans to visit Iceland, I will be more than happy to help them plan their trip and to book vehicles and lodgings. Thrainn On Monday 20 October 2003 09:11, Bob Walkden wrote: > Hi, > > Monday, October 20, 2003, 9:03:34 AM, you wrote: > > :-) > > > > I was just thinking of Iceland. > > The world in total is a bit more tricky indeed. > > > > If you have a chance to get some of your shots scanned, I for one would > > love to see some pictures from your country on the web. > > I agree! I'm one of the many people I know who have Iceland close to > the top of their list of countries to visit very soon.
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Alas, I really doubt I will have the time to put together a web page, since I've never seem to get around to it, despite (?) working with computers day in and day out. But I will keep trying. However, I have seen the PUG and may well contribute to it. I won't make the November PUG, but I'm pretty sure I'll send something into the December PUG. BTW, I was mistaken about the 6 or 7 generations below. I understand it takes 10 generations for the whole nation to be interrelated. Thrainn On Monday 20 October 2003 08:03, Jostein wrote: > Quoting Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be > > interrelated. > > I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population > > though. > > > :-) > > I was just thinking of Iceland. > The world in total is a bit more tricky indeed. > > If you have a chance to get some of your shots scanned, I for one would > love to see some pictures from your country on the web. The list has its > own gallery that you can submit to too. it's at: http://pug.komkon.org > > > Cheers, > Jostein > > - > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
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Hi Bob, > > Chuck the first part of that journey, unless you like traffic and > > misery, and substitute with M11, A14, M6 then... > > that was according to Bill Gates, so it must be correct! > (Autoroute software). I use (used) a version of that myself, but would like one with bridge heights and sensible directions :-) I wonder if the US version is any better - isn't that called 'Streets and Trips'? For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new roads which a map doesn't show. Malcolm
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If you mean the Thordur Hermannsson born on the 21st of November 1955, then I'm afraid I don't know him, since he lives on the opposite side of the country. And I'm afraid we're not very related. Our nearest common ancestors are Thorarinn Jonsson (1630 - 1699) and Halldora Thorsteinsdottir (1630- ???) Thrainn > In that case, I'll play ... Long, long ago (the late 1970s) in a galaxy far > away (the island of Jamaica) I went to school with an Icelandic fellow > named Thordur Hermannsson (whose name I am no doubt misspelling) and his > two sisters. Do you know them? > > E.R.N. > Reed
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- Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Genealogy is a very small subset of genetics, if it can actually be considered > related at all. One is social science, the other is very basic biological science. Absolutely. Besides, genealogy generally follows family names. It makes no allowances for side affairs... OTOH, genealogy is in many cases a valuable tool for tracking eg. specific mutations. Jostein
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I'll quote this to the judge at my ticket hearing in a couple of weeks -- 80 mph: "Yor Hono(u)r, but this is what this has been design for, dammit!". If it works and he lets me off the hook (not to mention the $200 ticket), I'll even agree with the "low-cost option" part. mishka > Highway System (designed for an average road speed > of 80Mph) travel by road for long distances has been > a reasonable low-cost option in the USA.
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Heh? Genetically you are related to the cockroachs (basic DNA). Do you have a cockroach in your family tree? I doubt that you do. Genealogy is a very small subset of genetics, if it can actually be considered related at all. One is social science, the other is very basic biological science. Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, Monday, October 20, 2003, 2:52:54 AM, you wrote: I was speaking genealogically, not genetically. what's the difference? How can 2 people be related genetically and not be related genealogically, or vice versa? Of course every living thing on earth is genetically related, at least according to current theories. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >But you can't really compare Canada to the UK for transport, anyway. >For a start Canada has been called a "country three thousand miles long >and twenty miles wide". That's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's hard >to have a route between large towns that doesn't use the main East-West >transport corridor. When I was 10, we travelled on the Canadian Pacific train from Montreal to Vancouver. I got to ride in the cab through part of the Rockies. I remember a snow-covered vista with wild animals loping in front of the train (deer?) like dolphins riding the bow wave of a ship. It was an adventure that will stay with me forever. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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I was speaking genealogically, not genetically. Of course every living thing on earth is genetically related, at least according to current theories. Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, Monday, October 20, 2003, 12:20:30 AM, you wrote: I have many thousands of ancestors, but not billions, or even millions, and am certainly not related to everybody in the world even indirectly. [...] congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Thrainn Vigfusson posted: > I thought you might be joking, but it's not often I get the chance to tell > people I saw Bjork shopping, since everybody here has also seen her. > > We get a lot of "...then you must know..." questions here, mainly because the > whole nation is interested in genealogy. When you tell people who you are or > where you live, you can expect answers like "My wife's cousin's husband's > great aunt used to live there in the fifties. Maybe you've heard about her." > > BTW, I wasn't joking about the interest in genealogy. The family trees of the > entire nation (since about 1650) are available on the web. In a few seconds, > you can find out how you are related to anybody. > In that case, I'll play ... Long, long ago (the late 1970s) in a galaxy far away (the island of Jamaica) I went to school with an Icelandic fellow named Thordur Hermannsson (whose name I am no doubt misspelling) and his two sisters. Do you know them? E.R.N. Reed
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> > Well, I'm sure I'll be corrected by someone in the Mother Country if I'm > wrong, but I think there are several express trains and a controlled access > highway between London and Glascow, so that the travel time, either by train > or car, is the same as it is between Montreal and Toronto. > > I don't think it's as much about time, as it is about us North Americans > being used to larger distances. London to Glascow is the length of Britain. > Montreal to Toronto is a about 1/10th Canada from coast to coast. Oh, quite. You can fit the UK inside California with room to spare. (That's another 400 mile reference trip - Los Angeles to San Francisco) But you can't really compare Canada to the UK for transport, anyway. For a start Canada has been called a "country three thousand miles long and twenty miles wide". That's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's hard to have a route between large towns that doesn't use the main East-West transport corridor.
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I already knew that. BR From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us.
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I've long had my suspicions about Thomas (before I hit "send", I'd better check to make sure I've got Rittenhouse in my crosshairs this time! ). cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT Re: New to the list Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:40:27 +0100 congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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> > you are kidding, right? > i am almost envisioning a "large, mostly empty" highway from Boston to NYC > ( i guess that should count for "major towns", eh? ). The Atlantic corridor is not representative of the US as a whole. But the point is that since the Eisenhower administration created the Interstate Highway System (designed for an average road speed of 80Mph) travel by road for long distances has been a reasonable low-cost option in the USA. Try travelling along the A6 in the UK sometime. That's one of the original major road routes in the UK (hence the single-digit number). For quite a lot of it's length it is a two-lane road (not two lanes each way; two lanes in total) with no overtaking. Get stuck behind a slow-moving vehicle and you'll be sitting there for miles.
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Well, I'm sure I'll be corrected by someone in the Mother Country if I'm wrong, but I think there are several express trains and a controlled access highway between London and Glascow, so that the travel time, either by train or car, is the same as it is between Montreal and Toronto. I don't think it's as much about time, as it is about us North Americans being used to larger distances. London to Glascow is the length of Britain. Montreal to Toronto is a about 1/10th Canada from coast to coast. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New to the list Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 15:19:53 -0400 (EDT) > > Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we > from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is > where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. > > "That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in > astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... What these sort of comparisons usually forget to do is to allow for the infrastructure differences in different parts of the world. It's all too easy to assume that the rest of the world is basically similar to your bit. Thus Americans tend to envision major towns connected by large, mostly empty, highways, while the English think in terms of narrow, winding roads, with massive congestion on the few limited-access highways. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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Damn it!! It was (relatively) early on Sunday morning, I still hadn't finished my second cup of java (it takes three to wake up on weekends), and I saw "Tom". Or, should I say, "tom". So no, not too much to drink (not even a hangover), just insufficient caffiene. Or was it last night? I can't remember when I sent that post! They all blend into one great big post after a while. H. If it was last night, I don't think I had too much to drink. Just the right amount, IIRC... As that obnoxious Stossel guy on 20/20 (an American newsmagazine show, for those of you from outside North America) would say, "Gimme a break!" And now that I re-read my post, I see that not only did I get the wrong tom, I mis-spelled Rittenhouse. Ach!!! I quit! ciao, knarf "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Damn, these Canadians can't tell a Thomas Van Veen in the DC area, from a Thomas Rittenhouse in the NC Mountains either. That is understandable as we both have ancestors from Holland so are very hard to tell apart especially when one of us signs our posts "tv" and the other "graywolf". That makes it really truely hard to tell the difference. If I was paranoid I would think my name was being used as an insult. Then TV and I would have to beat he bunny ears off you. But I think you probably just had enough to drink and it is time you went to bed. (GRIN) frank theriault wrote: Just you wait, Thomas Rittehouse! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Funny, all my Canadian friends know the bike guy in bunny ears. They say you wear really tight shorts. tv _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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You seem out to get me these days, Tom! I think 35 years of living in a metric/imperial hybrid system has finally taken it's toll. How about 4000 km from Toronto to Vancouver? I know it's 4000 ~miles~ (more or less, please don't correct me! ) from the Atlantic to Pacific. BTW, I failed geography in grade 7. Can you tell? cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In fact there are Canadian's who think Toronto, ON is 4000 miles from Vancouver, BC when it is in fact 2491.6 miles by road (according to the "AAA Map&Go" software, shortist route). But what is 1500 miles between friends (GRIN)? _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Hi, Monday, October 20, 2003, 12:20:30 AM, you wrote: > I have many thousands of ancestors, but not billions, or even > millions, and am certainly not related to everybody in the world even > indirectly. [...] congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Sunday, October 19, 2003, 11:44:33 PM, you wrote: > You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be interrelated. > I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population > though. > Thrainn Mitochondrial 'Eve' lived about 150,000 years ago. That is about 6,000 generations ago. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Sunday, October 19, 2003, 11:22:44 PM, you wrote: > Chuck the first part of that journey, unless you like traffic and misery, > and substitute with M11, A14, M6 then... that was according to Bill Gates, so it must be correct! (Autoroute software). -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, I always hear these little number games. Actually, since there always has been an immense amount of inbreding in human populations the number game is meaningless. I have many thousands of ancestors, but not billions, or even millions, and am certainly not related to everybody in the world even indirectly. This number game is the same arithmetic that says you can never hit the wall you are driving toward at 100kph. You need to use a calculus not arithmetic for these kinds of problems. In a small population like Iceland maybe most of the people whose families have lived there for several hundred years are interrelated, but 6 generations give 512 ancestors. However many of those 512 ancestors can be the same person, if just 2 of your ancestors were related then there you only have 256 possible ancestors in 6 generations. In all likelihood in a population as small as Iceland many of ones ancestors were cousins, maybe only 5th or 6th cousins but that reduces the number of ancestors in ones family tree drastically. Thrainn Vigfusson wrote: You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be interrelated. I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population though. Thrainn On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:44, Jostein wrote: Hi, Thrainn. I completely forgot my manners here. Heartily welcome to the list. As you haev already noticed, off-topic issues are plentiful and benign on this list. :-) Your notes about genealogy brings a smile on my face. Norway's population is about 20 times yours, and it's still pretty common to get those "do you know...", based on who you are, where your family is from etc. Iceland probably has the most complete population genealogy of all nations... -Just one little q, out of curiosity; how many generations do you need to go back before the whole of today's population is interrelated? :-) Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: "Thrainn Vigfusson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: OT Re: New to the list I thought you might be joking, but it's not often I get the chance to tell people I saw Bjork shopping, since everybody here has also seen her. We get a lot of "...then you must know..." questions here, mainly because the whole nation is interested in genealogy. When you tell people who you are or where you live, you can expect answers like "My wife's cousin's husband's great aunt used to live there in the fifties. Maybe you've heard about her." BTW, I wasn't joking about the interest in genealogy. The family trees of the entire nation (since about 1650) are available on the web. In a few seconds, you can find out how you are related to anybody. On Sunday 19 October 2003 02:11, frank theriault wrote: Hi, again, Gee, Thrainn. I was only joking. Not about Bjork being smokin', which she is, but about whether you knew her. I knew Iceland was a small place, I didn't know it's that small. And, I know how to spell "Icelandic", BTW (that was a type in the earlier post). It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and mentioning how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing Canadian joke about Americans. It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells a story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from Canada, they'll say "Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met them." Of course the answer is: "Well, there are 35 million Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins." Enough rambling. I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings anyway... cheers, frank -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Cotty wrote: > > On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >This summer a couple of hiking loonies took it on to walk from the > >northernmost point (North Cape) to the southernmost (Lindesnes). They claim > >the discance to be 2518 km. Not like US or Canada, but pretty good for a > >country that's stretched out in only one direction...:-) > > > >How far is London-Glasgow, really? > > About 3 1/2 six-packs of McEwan's (travelling south) South? From where? The Arctic circle? Oh, you must mean Glasgow-London! - keith > Cheers, > Cotty
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Welcome. In case you've missed it, the 6x7 users on the list are refered to as "the brotherhood". I'm sure they are pleased to welcome another "true believer". Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be interrelated. I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population though. Thrainn On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:44, Jostein wrote: > Hi, Thrainn. > > I completely forgot my manners here. Heartily welcome to the list. As you > haev already noticed, off-topic issues are plentiful and benign on this > list. :-) > > Your notes about genealogy brings a smile on my face. Norway's population > is about 20 times yours, and it's still pretty common to get those "do you > know...", based on who you are, where your family is from etc. > > Iceland probably has the most complete population genealogy of all > nations... > -Just one little q, out of curiosity; how many generations do you need to > go back before the whole of today's population is interrelated? :-) > > Jostein > > - > Pictures at: http://oksne.net > - > - Original Message - > From: "Thrainn Vigfusson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: OT Re: New to the list > > > I thought you might be joking, but it's not often I get the chance to > > tell people I saw Bjork shopping, since everybody here has also seen her. > > > > We get a lot of "...then you must know..." questions here, mainly because > > the > > > whole nation is interested in genealogy. When you tell people who you are > > or > > > where you live, you can expect answers like "My wife's cousin's husband's > > great aunt used to live there in the fifties. Maybe you've heard about > > her." > > > BTW, I wasn't joking about the interest in genealogy. The family trees > > of > > the > > > entire nation (since about 1650) are available on the web. In a few > > seconds, > > > you can find out how you are related to anybody. > > > > On Sunday 19 October 2003 02:11, frank theriault wrote: > > > Hi, again, > > > > > > Gee, Thrainn. I was only joking. Not about Bjork being smokin', which > > she > > > > is, but about whether you knew her. I knew Iceland was a small place, > > > I didn't know it's that small. > > > > > > And, I know how to spell "Icelandic", BTW (that was a type in the > > earlier > > > > post). > > > > > > It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and > > mentioning > > > > how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing > > Canadian > > > > joke about Americans. It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells > > a > > > > story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from > > > Canada, they'll say "Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met > > > them." Of course the answer is: "Well, there are 35 million > > > Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't > > > met your cousins." > > > > > > Enough rambling. I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings > > anyway... > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > frank
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you are kidding, right? i am almost envisioning a "large, mostly empty" highway from Boston to NYC ( i guess that should count for "major towns", eh? ). I-95 that is. last time i went there (a few weeks ago), i got stuck in traffic for almost two hours between stamford and pelhams. at 11pm. and the same on the way back. mishka Thus Americans tend to envision major towns connected by large, mostly empty, highways, while the English think in terms of narrow, winding roads, with massive congestion on the few limited-access highways.
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On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >This summer a couple of hiking loonies took it on to walk from the >northernmost point (North Cape) to the southernmost (Lindesnes). They claim >the discance to be 2518 km. Not like US or Canada, but pretty good for a >country that's stretched out in only one direction...:-) > >How far is London-Glasgow, really? About 3 1/2 six-packs of McEwan's (travelling south) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Bob Walkden wrote: > TimeDistance InstructionRoadFor > Dir Toward > 09:00 0.0 Depart London, UK A2021.4 km W > 09:02 1.4 Turn left onto A3022.3 km W > 09:06 3.6 Go onto A5 1.8 km NW > 09:09 5.5 Turn right onto A5205 0.8 km E > 09:11 6.3 Turn left onto A41 6.3 km NW > 09:20 12.6Turn left onto A406439 m W > 09:21 13.0At Kingsbury, bear right onto M1 122.0 > kmW Luton > 10:22 135.0 At M1-M6, turn left ontoM6 363.3 > kmW Coventry > 13:24 498.3 At Carlisle-North, go onto A74 [E5], > [E18] 10.0 km W Glasgow > 13:30 508.3 Go onto M74 [E5], > [E18] 13.3 km NW Glasgow > 13:37 521.6 Go onto A74 [E5] > 5.2 km W Glasgow > 13:41 526.7 Go onto M74 [E5] > 18.7 km W Glasgow > 13:50 545.4 Bear right onto A74 [E5] > 30.1 km N Glasgow > 14:09 575.5 Go onto A74-M [E5] > 11.7 km W Glasgow > 14:15 587.2 At Abington, bear left onto M74 [E5] > 47.3 km N Glasgow > 14:39 634.5 At Birkenshaw, bear right onto M73 [E5] > 1.5 km N > 14:40 635.9 At Old Monkland, bear left onto M8 [E5] 14.6 > km N Glasgow > 14:41 636.7 Refuel before here: last refuel 636.7 > kilometres ago > 14:48 650.5 At Glasgow-Centre, turn left onto A8 1.0 km E > 14:49 651.6 Arrive Glasgow, UK > > distances measured in the Napoleonic manner. Chuck the first part of that journey, unless you like traffic and misery, and substitute with M11, A14, M6 then... Malcolm
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- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Isn't there some little factoid somewhere about if you walk around the > entire boundary of Norway it's the same distance as from the Earth to the > moon? Bonus points if you find Slartibartfast's signature... Dunno how long it really is, but the "fiddlybits" certainly add length to the coastline. Slartibartfast's signature would probably be drowned by some hydropower dam, though... This summer a couple of hiking loonies took it on to walk from the northernmost point (North Cape) to the southernmost (Lindesnes). They claim the discance to be 2518 km. Not like US or Canada, but pretty good for a country that's stretched out in only one direction...:-) How far is London-Glasgow, really? Jostein
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Some times it is. "I'm going to the drug store, be back day after tomorrow", he told his wife as he fired up the airplane. Cotty wrote: On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. "That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... Bloody hell! And I thought it was a long way to the chemist's... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Damn, these Canadians can't tell a Thomas Van Veen in the DC area, from a Thomas Rittenhouse in the NC Mountains either. That is understandable as we both have ancestors from Holland so are very hard to tell apart especially when one of us signs our posts "tv" and the other "graywolf". That makes it really truely hard to tell the difference. If I was paranoid I would think my name was being used as an insult. Then TV and I would have to beat he bunny ears off you. But I think you probably just had enough to drink and it is time you went to bed. (GRIN) frank theriault wrote: Just you wait, Thomas Rittehouse! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Funny, all my Canadian friends know the bike guy in bunny ears. They say you wear really tight shorts. tv _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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When I lived in Oklahoma I was always being asked if I knew someone or another in Detroit where I grew up. They never seemed to be able to understand that the Detroit metro area had 5 times as many people as the whole state of Oklahoma. It is really a matter of where folks are from (village, town, city, metro-area) as to how they look at such things, not what nationality they are. In fact there are Canadian's who think Toronto, ON is 4000 miles from Vancouver, BC when it is in fact 2491.6 miles by road (according to the "AAA Map&Go" software, shortist route). But what is 1500 miles between friends (GRIN)? frank theriault wrote: Hi, again, Gee, Thrainn. I was only joking. Not about Bjork being smokin', which she is, but about whether you knew her. I knew Iceland was a small place, I didn't know it's that small. And, I know how to spell "Icelandic", BTW (that was a type in the earlier post). It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and mentioning how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing Canadian joke about Americans. It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells a story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from Canada, they'll say "Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met them." Of course the answer is: "Well, there are 35 million Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins." Enough rambling. I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings anyway... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New to the list Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:02 + Sorry about the previous message. I hit the send button by accident. I dont know Bjork personally. I've only seen her a few times shopping and so on. The population of Iceland is only about 280 thousand, so sooner or later you see everybody. For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the other day. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we >> from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is >> where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. >> >> "That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in >> astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... > >Well, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but enemies... >We have some decent stretches of driving in my little country too, and the >distance itself is endurable. But UK traffic makes all of a difference. Isn't there some little factoid somewhere about if you walk around the entire boundary of Norway it's the same distance as from the Earth to the moon? Bonus points if you find Slartibartfast's signature... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we >from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is >where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. > >"That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in >astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... Bloody hell! And I thought it was a long way to the chemist's... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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frank theriault wrote: > > Who posted earlier in the week that in North America, 100 years is a long > time, and in England (or was it Europe?), 100 miles is a long way? > > Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we > from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is > where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. > > "That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in > astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... You'd never GET there in a weekend! keith whaley > > cheers, > frank
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Hi, Thrainn, Welcome to the list. At times we can be very knowledgeable, and at minimal,entertaining, at best I too have just started with a used 6x7 and like it very much.I have been shooting E100vs and some kodak neg film during the summer,but plan on doing B&w with it over the winter months. Enjoy the emails. Dave Brooks > > From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: New to the list > > >Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 + > > > > > >Hi there, > > > > > >My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm > > > Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I > > > started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a > > > MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the > > > F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8 > > > Ex and the 400mm f5.6. > > > > > >I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning > > > to use. > > > > > >I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days, > > >but > > >I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7. > > > > > >Thrainn > > > > _ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > >
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- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we > from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is > where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. > > "That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in > astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... Well, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but enemies... We have some decent stretches of driving in my little country too, and the distance itself is endurable. But UK traffic makes all of a difference. cheers, Jostein
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Who posted earlier in the week that in North America, 100 years is a long time, and in England (or was it Europe?), 100 miles is a long way? Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend. "That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!", they'd say in astonishment. Seems that's a big trip round about those parts... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A friend of mine's parents had some relative coming over from England for a visit. This was when travelling by steamer was more common than by air, and the relatives were going to be landing in Halifax. The friends parents recieved a wire asking if they could meet the relatives on a particular day, when the ship arrived. What with being in Regina and all, they wired back, asking if the people in England could meet them instead, as they were closer... William Robb _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, > and mentioning > how small your country's population is, reminds me of an > ongoing Canadian > joke about Americans. It seems that almost every Canadian > I know tells a > story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out > we're from Canada, > they'll say "Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've > met them." Of > course the answer is: "Well, there are 35 million > Canadians, and Vancouver > is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins." Funny, all my Canadian friends know the bike guy in bunny ears. They say you wear really tight shorts. tv
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thank god america is much more populous! (that has nothing to do with president of Iceland, you know) mishka For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the other day.
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Hi, again, Gee, Thrainn. I was only joking. Not about Bjork being smokin', which she is, but about whether you knew her. I knew Iceland was a small place, I didn't know it's that small. And, I know how to spell "Icelandic", BTW (that was a type in the earlier post). It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and mentioning how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing Canadian joke about Americans. It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells a story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from Canada, they'll say "Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met them." Of course the answer is: "Well, there are 35 million Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins." Enough rambling. I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings anyway... cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New to the list Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:02 + Sorry about the previous message. I hit the send button by accident. I dont know Bjork personally. I've only seen her a few times shopping and so on. The population of Iceland is only about 280 thousand, so sooner or later you see everybody. For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the other day. _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Welcome aboard. If you stay awhile you will find that folks here are mainly interested in Pentax cameras, but we talk about all kinds of other things. We try to stay away from politics and religion as they get kind of abusive sometimes. About the only real rule we have, and it is really just kind of a gentleman's agreement, is not to post comments about Ebay ads unless you are the seller. No one wants a lot of competition for something they have their eye on. The guy who runs the list is Doug Brewer, he kind of volunteered to take over when Pentax USA decided to drop it for liability reasons, so we owe the continued existence of the list to him. He is a nice guy and not much into controlling the list. He only removes folks for bouncing e-mails, so don't let your server get backed up. Hope you enjoy hanging out with us. Thrainn Vigfusson wrote: Hi there, My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8 Ex and the 400mm f5.6. I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning to use. I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days, but I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7. Thrainn -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Sorry about the previous message. I hit the send button by accident. I dont know Bjork personally. I've only seen her a few times shopping and so on. The population of Iceland is only about 280 thousand, so sooner or later you see everybody. For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the other day. On Saturday 18 October 2003 21:18, frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Thrainn, > > Icelanding, eh? Do you know Bjork? I think she's smokin'. > > cheers, > frank > > > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > > From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: New to the list > >Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 + > > > >Hi there, > > > >My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm > > Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I > > started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a > > MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the > > F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8 > > Ex and the 400mm f5.6. > > > >I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning > > to use. > > > >I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days, > >but > >I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7. > > > >Thrainn > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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On Saturday 18 October 2003 21:18, frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Thrainn, > > Icelanding, eh? Do you know Bjork? I think she's smokin'. > > cheers, > frank > > > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > > From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: New to the list > >Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 + > > > >Hi there, > > > >My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm > > Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I > > started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a > > MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the > > F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8 > > Ex and the 400mm f5.6. > > > >I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning > > to use. > > > >I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days, > >but > >I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7. > > > >Thrainn > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
