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I agree with Frank. A few previous posts referenced trite technique. I think that can freeze us (group pressure being applied) from experimenting further. For example, I used to think that pictures taken deliberately unsquare (ie camera tilted noticably off plumb square) were trite. I still think most are. But I've seen people use the technique effectively, even though the hit rate might go down. If you like the effect, Boris, keep experimenting. Once in a while you'll snag a really nifty one. Please yourself. I've tried this kind of photo before and I think this beats anything I've done... but then I ain't no danged good. -Lo frank theriault wrote: On 3/15/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. I like it. I must say, I usually exect smooth lines from these sorts of time exposures. At first the jiggly lines were a bit off-putting, but the more I look the more I like. Cool shot!! cheers, frank
RE: Tel Aviv
I'd be happy to discuss life and photo with you Boris. If I' able to make the trip to the big city. If you go, let me know in advance. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16. mars 2006 05:45 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tel Aviv Hi! Seriously. You have turned a static scene into something dynamic. At first glance I saw that as a contradiction. After a moment of reflection I realised it opens for a lot of interpretations. May I suggest a new title, City life? Kind of cliché, but thats what I see underneath the surface. Life is a cliché, isn't it? Probably so... Tim, if I get to be in Oslo this year like it happened in 2004, we might want to meet and discuss this a bit... Boris
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Impressionistic images are often dynamic and trigger unique reactions in us all. This is no exception, but, alas, I'm weak and couldn't resist my usual base humor. Jack --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Get yourself a good tripod. LOL I have Slik Able 300 DX... I just don't carry it to my work and back every day... ;-) Boris __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Hi Boris, Honest and brutal, but also very (!) subjective this time. I love this kind of shots. It pulls you in. However, there are a few things that distracts from the effect, imo. The highlights become little doodles and introduce a bit of dizziness. I find that a bit... um... dunno if it's the right word, but I'll try disconcerting. Hope you understand what I think about. I've also seen this done with a lot more of the doodling effect, and that too can be cool. As it stands, I perceive it as not enough and too much. Also, I think the pic would be better without the halo of the photographer in the glass. I'm not going to suggest using a tripod. Rather, I'd suggest you lean the front of the lens towards the window pane. This will both give you better support, less reflections, and minimise the blurring effect of the window glass on the motif beyond as much as possible. Cheers, Jostein Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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What street is that. I want to look it up on my map of TA. I like the shot, BTW. It works nicely. Shel [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495
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Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Love it. I can imagine this on my wall. Malcolm
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Dynamic ;-) Seriously. You have turned a static scene into something dynamic. At first glance I saw that as a contradiction. After a moment of reflection I realised it opens for a lot of interpretations. May I suggest a new title, City life? Kind of cliché, but thats what I see underneath the surface. Life is a cliché, isn't it? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15. mars 2006 18:52 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Tel Aviv Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
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Get yourself a good tripod. LOL Jack --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Tel Aviv
On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. No need to be brutal. It works as an interesting graphic image, but I'm not sure if it solves the issue you had in mind. Making photos that have a more dynamic quality doesn't necessarily mean producing a graphic effect with camera movement. Godfrey
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I like the image. It's pretty and well balanced. However, this technique has been used a lot, and, in my opinion, the results don't vary enough to warrant more and more executions of this type. -- Original message -- From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
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Yep, the technique is trite, but it certainly warrants experimentation, especially by someone who hasn't done it before. I also agree with Godders about this not being the best way to instill some dynamics into a photo. I don't think dynamic necessarily means movement. It can be emotional, or providing a sense of movement or tension. Still, I like this example of a trite technique. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like the image. It's pretty and well balanced. However, this technique has been used a lot, and, in my opinion, the results don't vary enough to warrant more and more executions of this type. -- Original message -- From: Boris Liberman http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495
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On 3/15/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. I like it. I must say, I usually exect smooth lines from these sorts of time exposures. At first the jiggly lines were a bit off-putting, but the more I look the more I like. Cool shot!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Boris, I like it. Has a certain sophistication about it. Nice to see you trying something different, we all should. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tel Aviv Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
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Nicely done abstract. Looks like living room art from the 60's. Tom C. From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Tel Aviv Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:51:38 +0200 Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
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Hi! No need to be brutal. It works as an interesting graphic image, but I'm not sure if it solves the issue you had in mind. Making photos that have a more dynamic quality doesn't necessarily mean producing a graphic effect with camera movement. Well, of course you're right. But I had to start somewhere... Boris
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Hi! Seriously. You have turned a static scene into something dynamic. At first glance I saw that as a contradiction. After a moment of reflection I realised it opens for a lot of interpretations. May I suggest a new title, City life? Kind of cliché, but that’s what I see underneath the surface. Life is a cliché, isn't it? Probably so... Tim, if I get to be in Oslo this year like it happened in 2004, we might want to meet and discuss this a bit... Boris
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Hi! Get yourself a good tripod. LOL I have Slik Able 300 DX... I just don't carry it to my work and back every day... ;-) Boris
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Hi! I like the image. It's pretty and well balanced. However, this technique has been used a lot, and, in my opinion, the results don't vary enough to warrant more and more executions of this type. Why do I feel so executed? ;-) I mean like in hanging or da-chair... ;-) Thanks... I am not sure I will keep trying this technique, but I've tasted it and it was a bit of fun. Boris
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Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. I like it. I must say, I usually exect smooth lines from these sorts of time exposures. At first the jiggly lines were a bit off-putting, but the more I look the more I like. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Frank, given your signature (left here intentionally :-) ) I might assume that you and probably me too tend to shoot hand-held... To get this exposure I had to turn on mirror pre-fire and use shutter speed of 1 sec. I couldn't probably produce anything even remotely smooth. And then of course if it weren't jiggly some would say - it is not sharp enough ;-). I was going absolutely against the bourgeois concept ;-). Thanks for your kind words. Boris
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Hi! Boris, I like it. Has a certain sophistication about it. Nice to see you trying something different, we all should. Ken, funny you should mention sophistication. Most recently I couldn't see anything more sophisticated that outright trivial... Thanks, but I humbly disagree... This is pretty much trivial. Boris
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Hi! Nicely done abstract. Looks like living room art from the 60's. Har! Thank you! I am indeed flattered! Boris
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Hi! Yep, the technique is trite, but it certainly warrants experimentation, especially by someone who hasn't done it before. I also agree with Godders about this not being the best way to instill some dynamics into a photo. I don't think dynamic necessarily means movement. It can be emotional, or providing a sense of movement or tension. Still, I like this example of a trite technique. Thanks Shel. I agree with you and Godfrey. I just saw I might try this. At least I could sat this comes naturally with zooms and probably much more difficult (without PhotoShop) with fixes ;-). Boris
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Hi! http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Love it. I can imagine this on my wall. Thanks! Boris
