Re: New to list / acronyms
On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Kenton Brede wrote: > Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I > bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, > 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a > polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with > rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the > peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm > hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. And you haven't yet discovered LBA: Lens Buyer's Addiction. Welcome to the fold. My favorite photography book is Light, Science and Magic by Hunter, Biver and Fuqua. I've been using Linux since '93 (Yggdrasil running the 0.99 kernel) and bought a mac for photo processing. I was running Bibble on Linux a few years ago, but eventually switched to a lightroom on a mac for processing photos. The Mac UI is a bit confusing, but you can always pop up a terminal and get to the nice intuitive bash prompt. The other problem that I ran into with linux was calibrating monitors, which is possible in theory, but difficult in practice as the companies that make the calibration tools want people to pay extra for the software to use them. If you have any friends or family that work at Adobe, the employee discount is definitely the way to go, lightroom is $25. The catch being that they only get a limited number of licenses each year at that price. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
On 12/4/2010 9:47 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Kenton Brede Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. I've never used any image manipulation type software other than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software packages have something similar. OK, I do have a question: Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? Thanks, Kent Welcome. http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=47 PESO - Picture Every So Often GESO - Gallery Every So Often PAW - Picture A Week WOW– Workover Of the Week (haven't actually seen that one yet) You put your photos up on the web somewhere and post a URL to the list and we nit-pick them ad infinitum (or is it ad nauseaum?). A little bit of both actually. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
On 2010-12-05 11:35, Eric Weir wrote: On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: or even PAWs Haven't figured that one out, yet. Photo-A-Week, if I recall correctly. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/12/5 mike wilson : > > The bleeding what won't stop? quote: "I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money." cordovan leather wallet, what can I say... ;] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > or even PAWs Haven't figured that one out, yet. > > ...we're a gentle and friendly bunch... Being a newby myself, here and in photography, I can testify to that. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
eckinator wrote: Welcome, Kenton It's all been said except that the bleeding won't stop. Ask about CBA and LBA some time. Oh yeah, and about cormorants. The bleeding what won't stop? Drums? Puns? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
From: "Ken Waller" Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: New to list / acronyms > Welcome. Aside from equipment advice you'll be able to post pictures and > get criticism. Lots of criticism. In your best interest of course. And PUNS, lots of PUNS, you forgot to mention PUNS Monty Python & H2G2 references, the obscurer the better ... Not to mention, "He who must not be mentioned". -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Kenton Brede wrote: > Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I > bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, > 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a > polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with > rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. Welcome Kenton. This is a pretty laid back list, and we sometimes do talk about photography.:-) No one told me the > peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm > hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. Did'nt you get my memo.?? > > I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding > Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by > Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm > currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda > Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael > Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should > be reading, I'm all ears. > > I've never used any image manipulation type software other than > Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple > evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available > memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. PS Elements and or Lightroom seem to be the weapons of choice here. >I > might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux > image software is this crash prone. We have members here that use Mac, PC, Windows and Linux, so feel free to ask. Bibble does have some cool tricks > though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other > software packages have something similar. > > OK, I do have a question: > > Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, > PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? I think someone answered that for you. Post some photos and we'll pick away. Dave Brooks PS if you need spelling help, I'm, your man. > > Thanks, > Kent > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Watcha mate. Pull up a stool. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome, Kenton It's all been said except that the bleeding won't stop. Ask about CBA and LBA some time. Oh yeah, and about cormorants. Cheers Ecke 2010/12/4 Kenton Brede : > Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I > bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, > 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a > polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with > rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the > peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm > hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. > > I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding > Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by > Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm > currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda > Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael > Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should > be reading, I'm all ears. > > I've never used any image manipulation type software other than > Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple > evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available > memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I > might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux > image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks > though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other > software packages have something similar. > > OK, I do have a question: > > Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, > PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? > > Thanks, > Kent > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome, Kenton. Greetings from a small country across the big pond and then a small pond... Now, that you have been explained the meaning of all these letter combinations, let me express my anticipation of your GESOs, PESOs or even PAWs if you decide to undertake the project. You're in for the ride, but we're a gentle and friendly bunch, that would be a sooth thing to say :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: New to list / acronyms Welcome. Aside from equipment advice you'll be able to post pictures and get criticism. Lots of criticism. In your best interest of course. And PUNS, lots of PUNS, you forgot to mention PUNS He said it -- and everone else has provided adequate info... so.. just plain "Welcome" from me ann often called "annsan" annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: New to list / acronyms Welcome. Aside from equipment advice you'll be able to post pictures and get criticism. Lots of criticism. In your best interest of course. And PUNS, lots of PUNS, you forgot to mention PUNS -Original Message- From: Kenton Brede Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: New to list / acronyms Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. I've never used any image manipulation type software other than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software packages have something similar. OK, I do have a question: Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? Thanks, Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
From: Kenton Brede > I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point I did that two years ago -- after 10 happy years of MS-DOS, 12 miserable years of Windows, and one miserabler year of Linux. If I'd put Linux on better hardware I mighta stayed, but I didn't and now I'm glad I didn't. Just in the last month been discovering some really nifty writing- and research-related Mac software that's also been around for years -- the whole time I was miserabler'n around with that other crap. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
On 2010-12-04 21:47, John Sessoms wrote: You put your photos up on the web somewhere and post a URL to the list and we nit-pick them ad infinitum (or is it ad nauseaum?). Around here? Ad infinauseaum. -- Thanks DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New to list / acronyms
From: Kenton Brede Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. I've never used any image manipulation type software other than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software packages have something similar. OK, I do have a question: Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? Thanks, Kent Welcome. http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=47 PESO - Picture Every So Often GESO - Gallery Every So Often PAW - Picture A Week WOW– Workover Of the Week (haven't actually seen that one yet) You put your photos up on the web somewhere and post a URL to the list and we nit-pick them ad infinitum (or is it ad nauseaum?). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome. Aside from equipment advice you'll be able to post pictures and get criticism. Lots of criticism. In your best interest of course. -Original Message- From: Kenton Brede Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 11:57:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: New to list / acronyms Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. I've never used any image manipulation type software other than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software packages have something similar. OK, I do have a question: Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? Thanks, Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome to the list. Controlling color temp with RAW shooting is fairly easy. I just shoot on auto white balance and adjust during conversion – either to my preference or, using the eyedropper, to a neutral color, like grey or white. Getting out of Linux and into PhotoShop elements, PhotoShop or Lightroom, on either a Mac or PC, will help in that regard. Paul On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Kenton Brede wrote: > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Christine Aguila > wrote: >> >> - Original Message - From: "Kenton Brede" > >> It's excellent to read books for basic understanding and grounding with the >> equipment etc, and I support that but do try to start taking pictures as >> soon as possible. That's the fun part and you'll always learn by doing. >> With digital it's much more affordable to learn this way. > > Understood. I've taken over a thousand photos so far with the camera. > 99.99% are crap and the rest are not quite crap. LOL But > I've learned a few things. One thing I've learned is my inability to > remember to change ISO and white balance. When the camera is in my > hands aperture and shutter speed is all I seem to think about. White > balance I've read isn't a big thing when shooting raw, but I've not > been able to take one photo shot on "incandecent" and one on "cloudy," > with the same settings otherwise, look the same in Bibble. I should > probably make a mental checklist to go over before every shot. > > >> PESO: Picture Every So Often, a solitary picture that you'd like to share >> for fun or get critique on. >> GESO: Gallery Every So Often: a collection of pictures, say from 6 - 12, >> but not everyone holds to that limit, myself included :-) >> >> PAW: Picture A Week: a photographer creates a collection of 52 >> pictures--one for each week of the year. > > Thank you for the clarification. :) > >> Welcome to the list, Kent. Where in the midwest are you from? I'm from >> Chicago. > > I'm living in Omaha. My wife lived in Chicago for few years, before > moving here. She really liked Chicago. My few visits have been > pleasant as well. > > Thanks for your help. :) > Kent > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New to list / acronyms
> I know next to nothing about photography. Welcome to the list. You'll fit right in. Find out which photographers you like best, and steal all their ideas. Eventually you'll develop a style of your own. B > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On > Behalf Of Kenton Brede > Sent: 04 December 2010 17:57 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: New to list / acronyms > > Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the > Midwest. I bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x > with the 18-55mm, 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 > on the way, as well as a polarizer and graduated filter. I > also picked up a cleaning kit with rocket blower and a > manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the peripherals > were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm > hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. > > I know next to nothing about photography. I've read > "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital > Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good > introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature > & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is > "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has > suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. > > I've never used any image manipulation type software other > than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 > for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and > sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW > and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a > MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash > prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really > like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software > packages have something similar. > > OK, I do have a question: > > Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, > GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? > > Thanks, > Kent > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:57 -0600, "Kenton Brede" wrote: > > I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding > Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by > Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm > currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda > Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael > Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should > be reading, I'm all ears. > > I've never used any image manipulation type software other than > Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple > evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available > memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I > might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux > image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks > though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other > software packages have something similar. > > OK, I do have a question: > > Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, > PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? Hi Kenton - welcome! Christine has explained the main acronyms - you might find the PDML FAQ useful. It was compiled some time ago but we tend to forget it's available: http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=47 If you're on Linux, the GIMP plus the UFRaw plug in would be worth a try - certainly the price is right! As for other resources on digital photography, there are lots of good resources and tutorials on line; Eg: * Digital Photography Tutorials: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials.htm * The Luminous Landscape: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/index.shtml * Photography BB - free online Photography Magazine: http://www.photographybb.com/magazine/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenton Brede wrote: >I've taken over a thousand photos so far with the camera. > 99.99% are crap and the rest are not quite crap. Congratulations, you just made The List. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Welcome aboard, Kent! Thanks Walt. :) > > First of all, you don't want that old M-50/1.7 -- let me take that off your > hands. > Aside from that, just email me off-list and I'll give you a snail mail > address where you can unburden yourself from that junky old prime lens. OK, but I might take a hammer and chisel and knock the barnacles off of it and use it once, before I get it into the mail. ;) Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Kenton Brede" > It's excellent to read books for basic understanding and grounding with the > equipment etc, and I support that but do try to start taking pictures as > soon as possible. That's the fun part and you'll always learn by doing. > With digital it's much more affordable to learn this way. Understood. I've taken over a thousand photos so far with the camera. 99.99% are crap and the rest are not quite crap. LOL But I've learned a few things. One thing I've learned is my inability to remember to change ISO and white balance. When the camera is in my hands aperture and shutter speed is all I seem to think about. White balance I've read isn't a big thing when shooting raw, but I've not been able to take one photo shot on "incandecent" and one on "cloudy," with the same settings otherwise, look the same in Bibble. I should probably make a mental checklist to go over before every shot. > PESO: Picture Every So Often, a solitary picture that you'd like to share > for fun or get critique on. > GESO: Gallery Every So Often: a collection of pictures, say from 6 - 12, > but not everyone holds to that limit, myself included :-) > > PAW: Picture A Week: a photographer creates a collection of 52 > pictures--one for each week of the year. Thank you for the clarification. :) > Welcome to the list, Kent. Where in the midwest are you from? I'm from > Chicago. I'm living in Omaha. My wife lived in Chicago for few years, before moving here. She really liked Chicago. My few visits have been pleasant as well. Thanks for your help. :) Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome aboard, Kent! First of all, you don't want that old M-50/1.7 -- let me take that off your hands. Secondly, with regard to editing software, you might give The Gimp a try. Being a WinXP guy, I don't know if it would be as much of a resource hog as Bibble, but I'm sure someone on the list will be able to tell you that. As for the acronyms, it looks like Christine has that all spelled out for you, as it were. Aside from that, just email me off-list and I'll give you a snail mail address where you can unburden yourself from that junky old prime lens. Best, Walt On 12/4/2010 11:57 AM, Kenton Brede wrote: Hi, I've been lurking for a few days here. I'm from the Midwest. I bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with the 18-55mm, 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the way, as well as a polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a cleaning kit with rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one told me the peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature& Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. I've never used any image manipulation type software other than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software packages have something similar. OK, I do have a question: Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? Thanks, Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
Welcome, Kenton! I'll leave any further enlightenment to those more plugged in. Jack --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Kenton Brede wrote: > From: Kenton Brede > Subject: New to list / acronyms > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 9:57 AM > Hi, I've been lurking for a few days > here. I'm from the Midwest. I > bought my first DSLR about two weeks ago, a K-x with > the 18-55mm, > 55-300mm lens kit. I've got a 50mm M f/1.7 on the > way, as well as a > polarizer and graduated filter. I also picked up a > cleaning kit with > rocket blower and a manfrotto tripod and head. No one > told me the > peripherals were going to cost so damn much. I feel > like I'm > hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. > > I know next to nothing about photography. I've read > "Understanding > Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography > Book" by > Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I > think. I'm > currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor > Photography" by Brenda > Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" > by Michael > Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other > books I should > be reading, I'm all ears. > > I've never used any image manipulation type software other > than > Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 > for a couple > evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks > all available > memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds > thumbnails. I > might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if > all Linux > image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have > some cool tricks > though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I > suppose other > software packages have something similar. > > OK, I do have a question: > > Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: > PESO, GESO, > PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? > > Thanks, > Kent > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to list / acronyms
- Original Message - From: "Kenton Brede" > I feel like I'm hemorrhaging money. LOL It's sad but true. It's only the beginning!!! :-) I know next to nothing about photography. I've read "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson and "The Digital Photography Book" by Scott Kelby; both have been a good introduction I think. I'm currently reading "Creative Nature & Outdoor Photography" by Brenda Tharp. Next on the list is "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman. If anyone has suggestions as to which other books I should be reading, I'm all ears. It's excellent to read books for basic understanding and grounding with the equipment etc, and I support that but do try to start taking pictures as soon as possible. That's the fun part and you'll always learn by doing. With digital it's much more affordable to learn this way. I've never used any image manipulation type software other than Picassa. I'm a Linux user and have evaluated Bibble 5 for a couple evenings. It's crashed on me a few times and sucks all available memory and some swap when it imports RAW and builds thumbnails. I might have to break down and get a MAC at some point, if all Linux image software is this crash prone. Bibble does have some cool tricks though. I really like the heal/clone thing but I suppose other software packages have something similar. I don't know anything about Linix and compatable software, but some of the guys on the list do so they'll have to help you. OK, I do have a question: Is there a page defining the acronyms used here, like: PESO, GESO, PAW? If not, could someone enlighten me? PESO: Picture Every So Often, a solitary picture that you'd like to share for fun or get critique on. GESO: Gallery Every So Often: a collection of pictures, say from 6 - 12, but not everyone holds to that limit, myself included :-) PAW: Picture A Week: a photographer creates a collection of 52 pictures--one for each week of the year. Welcome to the list, Kent. Where in the midwest are you from? I'm from Chicago. Cheers, Christine Thanks, Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
Hello Corey, Welcome to the list! Nice photo, I like the B&W conversion, the soft highlights in particular, which give it a dreamlike feeling. -- Attila Sunday, January 28, 2007, 8:44:05 PM, you wrote: > Hello everyone, > I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography. I had been > craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really > serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d. > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. > Thanks > Corey > -- > Check out my Photo Stream at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
Welcome, and about the PESO, nice. Corey Leopold wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography. I had been > craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really > serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d. > > I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears k-mount lenses > floating around my house that were my fathers. Probably not the best > lenses, but they work and I have that attachment with my father that > way. > > Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the > Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit > lense. > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. > > Thanks > > Corey > > -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
Welcome. A fine picture. Please show us more. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Corey Leopold Sent: 28. januar 2007 19:44 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park Hello everyone, I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography. I had been craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d. I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears k-mount lenses floating around my house that were my fathers. Probably not the best lenses, but they work and I have that attachment with my father that way. Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit lense. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. Thanks Corey -- Check out my Photo Stream at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park and A Question
Ricoh P lenses are the ones to avoid. The P pin fouls the AF drive. -Adam Rick Womer wrote: > Welcome, Corey, and very nice pic! > > A scary cautionary question to other list members for > your benefit: Didn't Tanya have a Sears lens that had > to be cut off her ist D a couple of years ago? Or was > it a Ricoh lens? > > Rick > > --- Corey Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR >> Photography. I had been >> craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I >> finally got really >> serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the >> K10d. >> >> I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears >> k-mount lenses >> floating around my house that were my fathers. >> Probably not the best >> lenses, but they work and I have that attachment >> with my father that >> way. >> >> Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near >> the Tower of the >> Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with >> the 18-55 kit >> lense. >> >> > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg >> Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. >> >> Thanks >> >> Corey >> >> -- >> Check out my Photo Stream at: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW > > > > > Have a burning question? > Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park and A Question
Welcome, Corey, and very nice pic! A scary cautionary question to other list members for your benefit: Didn't Tanya have a Sears lens that had to be cut off her ist D a couple of years ago? Or was it a Ricoh lens? Rick --- Corey Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR > Photography. I had been > craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I > finally got really > serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the > K10d. > > I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears > k-mount lenses > floating around my house that were my fathers. > Probably not the best > lenses, but they work and I have that attachment > with my father that > way. > > Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near > the Tower of the > Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with > the 18-55 kit > lense. > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. > > Thanks > > Corey > > -- > Check out my Photo Stream at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
In a message dated 1/28/2007 10:50:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello everyone, I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography. I had been craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d. I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears k-mount lenses floating around my house that were my fathers. Probably not the best lenses, but they work and I have that attachment with my father that way. Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit lense. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. Thanks Corey = Nice shot. Sharp bench, blurry water, good juxtaposition. Welcome to the list! If you hang around here a while, don't worry, you will be enabled and have a whole bunch of new lenses in no time at all. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
Thanks everyone for your comments! Of course I have something like 400 not so good shots. I am trying to get the ratio a little better. Corey On 1/28/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A fine way to enter the PDML: with a good, interesting photograph to > offer! Welcome! > > Nice work ... I like the feel of the composition and the rendering > looks pretty darn good. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Corey Leopold wrote: > > > ... Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the > > Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit > > lense. > > > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > > > > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. ... > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Check out my Photo Stream at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
On 1/28/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome Cory. > > First off, there are a lot of knowledgeable folk on this list. Fire away.:-) > > Secondly, i like your shots on your flikr account. > Thanks. A lot of those were shot pre K10d with a Point & Shoot Sony 5MP Cybershot. Great camera I just started wanting to do things it couldn't. Corey -- Check out my Photo Stream at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
On 28/1/07, Corey Leopold, discombobulated, unleashed: >Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the >Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit >lense. > >http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg Welcome to the list. Excellent photograph. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
What Godfrey said. Welcome to the list. On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > A fine way to enter the PDML: with a good, interesting photograph to > offer! Welcome! > > Nice work ... I like the feel of the composition and the rendering > looks pretty darn good. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Corey Leopold wrote: > >> ... Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of >> the >> Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit >> lense. >> >> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg >> >> Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. ... > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
A fine way to enter the PDML: with a good, interesting photograph to offer! Welcome! Nice work ... I like the feel of the composition and the rendering looks pretty darn good. enjoy Godfrey On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Corey Leopold wrote: > ... Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the > Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit > lense. > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
Nicely composed and a somewhat provocative image. Due to lighting, and DOF, the bench is being referenced as a point to consider by the viewer. Insights curiosity. Welcome and I get that "attachment with my father". Jack --- Corey Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography. I had been > craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really > serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d. > > I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears k-mount lenses > floating around my house that were my fathers. Probably not the best > lenses, but they work and I have that attachment with my father that > way. > > Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the > Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit > lense. > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. > > Thanks > > Corey > > -- > Check out my Photo Stream at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List and PESO -- Night in the Park
Welcome Cory. First off, there are a lot of knowledgeable folk on this list. Fire away.:-) Secondly, i like your shots on your flikr account. Thirdly, don'tr listen to anything Cotty or Frank have to say.;-) Dave Brooks BTW, sorry about the Canon.LOL On 1/28/07, Corey Leopold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to the list, and new to Digital SLR Photography. I had been > craving a Cannon 30d for about a year, but when I finally got really > serious and read reviews, etc... I decided on the K10d. > > I had the added (dubious) benefit of some old Sears k-mount lenses > floating around my house that were my fathers. Probably not the best > lenses, but they work and I have that attachment with my father that > way. > > Anyway I was out and about in Hemisfair Park near the Tower of the > Americas and took this photo last night. Taken with the 18-55 kit > lense. > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/371597300_1513d87f9b_b.jpg > > Converted to B&W in the beta of Lightroom. > > Thanks > > Corey > > -- > Check out my Photo Stream at: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cleopold73 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New to List (OT: Non-Pentax Content)
On 8/3/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: >No but I keep hearing the Canon lenses are soft at the edges. Is that >really true or just an over-exaggeration as just about all lenses are softer >at the edges? Two things - I don't see the edges on a 1DmII and secondly, I use Pentax lenses! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: New to List (OT: Non-Pentax Content)
No but I keep hearing the Canon lenses are soft at the edges. Is that really true or just an over-exaggeration as just about all lenses are softer at the edges? Do you think I would have any problem on a full frame 5D with the non-cheapo non-consumer package lenses? Tom C. From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey, at least there's no effing green buttons on a Canon to get into wars over ;-) Cheers, Cotty
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>>Also, don't believe anything Cotty says... > >And don't believe anything Frank says. > >...except when he tells you not to believe anything Cotty says. > >...or when he tells you not to believe anything I say... Hey, at least there's no effing green buttons on a Canon to get into wars over ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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frank theriault wrote: >Also, don't believe anything Cotty says... And don't believe anything Frank says. ...except when he tells you not to believe anything Cotty says. ...or when he tells you not to believe anything I say...
Re: New to List
On 3/8/06, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to say Hi! and ask a question. > What is PESO? Do folks just use the "PESO" whenever they link to a picture > for discussion among group? > > Walt Hamler Hi, Walter, I've been not-so-active lately (much to the relief of the rest of the list, I'm sure). Hopefully things will slow down at work to a point that I can pay more attentions to the various goings-on around here. Welcome aboard. BTW, this place is like the Mafia - now you're in for life. You may never unsubscribe. Also, don't believe anything Cotty says... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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The mini-FAQ is still up on my site. It should answer this and many other questions. http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Walter Hamler wrote: Just wanted to say Hi! and ask a question. What is PESO? Do folks just use the "PESO" whenever they link to a picture for discussion among group? Walt Hamler
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Welcome on board Walter. Have fun. The PDML acronyms and what to do, and what not to do here is described at http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Walter Hamler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 8. mars 2006 15:20 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: New to List > > Just wanted to say Hi! and ask a question. > What is PESO? Do folks just use the "PESO" whenever they link to a picture > for discussion among group? > > Walt Hamler >
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Or who want to post a picture more often, as has been the case numerous times. In either case they are just acronyms to alert the reader that the post contains a link to a photo. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Mark Roberts > A few years ago some people started posting PAW (Picture A Week) > photos. One photograph shot and posted on the web every week. PESO > evolved as an alternative for people too busy or otherwise unable to > get a photo on line every week.
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Welcome. Hope you enjoy the list. We have a lot of fun here, and along the way we pick up some good information. You guessed it. PESO is an acronym for picture every so often. We also use PAW, which means picture a week. There's a FAQ somewhere, which someone will undoubtedly point out. Cheers, Paul Stenquist -- Original message -- From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just wanted to say Hi! and ask a question. > What is PESO? Do folks just use the "PESO" whenever they link to a picture > for discussion among group? > > Walt Hamler >
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:19:42 -, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just wanted to say Hi! and ask a question. What is PESO? Do folks just use the "PESO" whenever they link to a picture for discussion among group? Walt Hamler Hello, PESO: Picture Every So Often. PAW: Picture a week. In the archive you'll find the FAQ. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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Walter Hamler wrote: >Just wanted to say Hi! and ask a question. >What is PESO? Do folks just use the "PESO" whenever they link to a picture >for discussion among group? PESO means "Picture Every So Often" and it's a photo posted somewhere on the web for comments, criticism, suggestions, admiration, etc. A few years ago some people started posting PAW (Picture A Week) photos. One photograph shot and posted on the web every week. PESO evolved as an alternative for people too busy or otherwise unable to get a photo on line every week. So let's see some of yours!
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Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Should it not have said "don't believe what anyone >says, especially FRANK! " I don't believe that. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Should it not have said "don't believe what anyone says, especially FRANK! " --- Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome, although you can see what you've gotten > yourself into. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/27/2004 7:36:22 AM >>> > frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >About the only piece of advice you haven't received > (and I might as > >well say it before Mark Roberts does... ): > Don't believe > >anything I say. > > Right. Don't believe anything Frank says. Even that. > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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Welcome, although you can see what you've gotten yourself into. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/27/2004 7:36:22 AM >>> frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >About the only piece of advice you haven't received (and I might as >well say it before Mark Roberts does... ): Don't believe >anything I say. Right. Don't believe anything Frank says. Even that. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Hello Karen, Welcome to the list. I have seen a few of your posts on DPReview. I think that you'll enjoy it here. So whereabouts in California are you. There are several of us here and we do try to get together once in a while. At least us northerners do. I'm in the Sacramento area. Enjoy! Bruce Thursday, August 26, 2004, 6:17:13 PM, you wrote: KC> we are new to this list, thought i'd just drop a note to say "hi". both my KC> husband and i have *istD's, we had a photo lab for 11 years, he's been a KC> professional photographer but just doing it for fun now, our daughter makes KC> her living with her (another brand, shame) digital camera, i'm an artist KC> that takes my own reference photos but am getting more into photography now KC> than painting. if you want to check some of our photos out go to KC> http://clanins.com/fotoindex.html, if you want to know more you can go to KC> www.clanins.com and go from there. KC> having just joined, i'm curious why 'ebay' shouldn't be mentioned? KC> since i read one email about items for sale i assume it is ok to do so? KC> thanks. KC> karen in CA
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Speak for yourself I use film because I prefer it. If I wanted to shoot digital, I'd buy a digital camera. Shel > From: CRB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There's a lot of digital users here, and a few of us that still use film. > (But only because of budget, at least in the miniature form factor.)
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Woohoo!! Another Rose amongst the thorns! BTW, don't be shy, Karen, us girls need to show this bunch whose boss you know! hehe. Welcome! tan.x. -Original Message- From: Karen Clanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new to list we are new to this list, thought i'd just drop a note to say "hi". both my husband and i have *istD's, we had a photo lab for 11 years, he's been a professional photographer but just doing it for fun now, our daughter makes her living with her (another brand, shame) digital camera, i'm an artist that takes my own reference photos but am getting more into photography now than painting. if you want to check some of our photos out go to http://clanins.com/fotoindex.html, if you want to know more you can go to www.clanins.com and go from there. having just joined, i'm curious why 'ebay' shouldn't be mentioned? since i read one email about items for sale i assume it is ok to do so? thanks. karen in CA
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Welcome to the list! It's a great place. Here's a little FAQ to explain some stuff about the list: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Don > -Original Message- > From: Karen Clanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: new to list > > > we are new to this list, thought i'd just drop a note to say > "hi". both my > husband and i have *istD's, we had a photo lab for 11 years, he's been a > professional photographer but just doing it for fun now, our > daughter makes > her living with her (another brand, shame) digital camera, i'm an artist > that takes my own reference photos but am getting more into > photography now > than painting. if you want to check some of our photos out go to > http://clanins.com/fotoindex.html, if you want to know more you can go to > www.clanins.com and go from there. > > having just joined, i'm curious why 'ebay' shouldn't be mentioned? > > since i read one email about items for sale i assume it is ok to do so? > > thanks. > > karen in CA >
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It is perfectly okay to mention your own ebay listings. However, it's best not to mention other people's current eBay listings because some members might be watching and hoping for a deal. It's best to let the buyers do their homeworks. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan having just joined, i'm curious why 'ebay' shouldn't be mentioned? since i read one email about items for sale i assume it is ok to do so? thanks. karen in CA _ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
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Welcome to the list. Don't be ashamed, there are plenty of people on this list who are just plain camera junkies and have several different brands of cameras, myself included. The *istD is definitely my favorite, though. It's not that Ebay shouldn't be mentioned, just that it's not nice if you are selling something there to use this list to encourage bidding. If you want to offer something for sale here do it before you send it to Ebay, then never mention it again!!! Just kidding!!! I will get in trouble for making that joke, I'm sure. It sounds like you will fit right in. Dave -Original Message- From: Karen Clanin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: new to list we are new to this list, thought i'd just drop a note to say "hi". both my husband and i have *istD's, we had a photo lab for 11 years, he's been a professional photographer but just doing it for fun now, our daughter makes her living with her (another brand, shame) digital camera, i'm an artist that takes my own reference photos but am getting more into photography now than painting. if you want to check some of our photos out go to http://clanins.com/fotoindex.html, if you want to know more you can go to www.clanins.com and go from there. having just joined, i'm curious why 'ebay' shouldn't be mentioned? since i read one email about items for sale i assume it is ok to do so? thanks. karen in CA
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Hi Karen, elcome to the PDML. You both do very nice work. It's great to have you here. And Karen's drawings are exceptional. I really enjoyed them. You'll also find there are some other people here who are involved in showing dogs. William Robb chief among them. The agreement not to mention ebay auctions (which is by no means unanimous but probably a narrow majority) has to do with protecting the interests of those who spend A LOT OF TIME perusing ebay listings for exceptional bargains. Many of us felt that pointing out good ebay deals here would drive prices up. We thought that those who spend a lot of time looking for the best merchandise should benefit. If someone randomly mentions good ebay prices for desirable Pentax equipment, there will probably be some objections. On the other hand, mentions of non-Pentax equipment is fine, as are warnings about auctions that appear to be scams. We also encourage or at least tolerate members listing their own auctions. (I did just that a couple of hours ago, so I want to be certain to point out that it's okay to do just that.:-) I will look forward to seeing more of your posts and more of your work. Paul Stenquist On Aug 26, 2004, at 9:17 PM, Karen Clanin wrote: we are new to this list, thought i'd just drop a note to say "hi". both my husband and i have *istD's, we had a photo lab for 11 years, he's been a professional photographer but just doing it for fun now, our daughter makes her living with her (another brand, shame) digital camera, i'm an artist that takes my own reference photos but am getting more into photography now than painting. if you want to check some of our photos out go to http://clanins.com/fotoindex.html, if you want to know more you can go to www.clanins.com and go from there. having just joined, i'm curious why 'ebay' shouldn't be mentioned? since i read one email about items for sale i assume it is ok to do so? thanks. karen in CA
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Welcome, Karen. eBay talk tends to both clutter the list and spoil each other's bargains. Items for sale, pretty must Fridays, most of the time. Sometimes the Aussies will chime in on Thursday, but their calendars are almost a day ahead of ours. There's a lot of digital users here, and a few of us that still use film. (But only because of budget, at least in the miniature form factor.) Sounds like you folks know what you're doing with a camera. I look forward to your PUG submissions. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl - 'Every one of us is, even from his mother's womb, a master craftsman of idols.' -- John Calvin (1509-64) ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: New to list > See? Again, I'm making nice to the newbies, and I get slagged for it! > > I'm taking my toys and going home. I don't think I want to play with you > guys anymore. Ahh Frank, I forgot the smileys again. William Robb
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> Hello! > > I am new to this list and new to photography. I have a feeling this is > not the list for me - from the messages I've been reading you all seem > very experienced. Maybe I need to find a list for beginners? > Thanks so much, > jasmine > > Hi Jasmine. Nope,your in the right place alright. As mentioned this group of people have a wide range of experience and tastes. I have been here about 3 years now and still find i am learning and growing in this hobby. As far as the scremount equipment goes,there are several people here who can help you out,point you to websites etc. Do you know about the PUG?Great place to show off your shots. Dave in Canada
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Hi Jasmine, Welcome to the list. Frank was right, take lots of pictures and look at lots of pictures. After you get a feel for the camera controls you might want to keep a note book and take notes on how you took each image (F-stop setting on the lens, Shutter speed setting, lighting conditions, etc.). Take your time and enjoy yourself. When you get the pictures back compare the results with your notes and see what worked and what didn't. You'll probably learn more if you don't wait very long between taking and developing the pictures. Hope you find this helpful and good luck. Charles
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- Original Message - From: "Jasmine" Subject: New to list > > Can anyone suggest anything for beginners? Pentax for Dummies? This is the Pentax for Dummies Mailing List. Welcome home. > > I have a lot of questions, some of them probably stupid (yes, I know, > there's no such thing as a stupid question) and I don't want to take up > space and time with you if I should be on another list. Of course there are stupid questions. Those are the ones that Theriault asks. > > Thanks so much, Yer welcome. William Robb
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Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Jasmine, > >On 3/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > >>I am new to this list and new to photography. I have a feeling this is >>not the list for me - from the messages I've been reading you all seem >>very experienced. Maybe I need to find a list for beginners? > >Nonesense - every level served here :-) Absolutely! In fact, we prefer beginners who don't have enough experience to notice how much of what we go on and on about is bullsh*t ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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On 3/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Okay, off my soapbox for now. Why break the habit of a lifetime Frank? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Hi Jasmine, On 3/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I am new to this list and new to photography. I have a feeling this is >not the list for me - from the messages I've been reading you all seem >very experienced. Maybe I need to find a list for beginners? Nonesense - every level served here :-) Welcome. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Jasmine wrote: > I am new to this list and new to photography. I have a feeling this is > not the list for me - from the messages I've been reading you all seem > very experienced. Maybe I need to find a list for beginners? Welcome to the list! Don't worry about the level of knowledge... there's a huge range here, and we're all still learning in many ways. We all suck... some of us are just sucking at a different level. chris
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Excellent post, Frank! chris On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Jasmine, > > Welcome to the list. To re-inforce what Fred said, don't be scared off by > thinking yourself a "newbie". We're all learning new things all the time, > and I think you'll find us a very patient bunch. One thing I've found about > photography is that those who've been at it for a long time love to share > what they've learned to those just getting into it. Photography used to be > one of the most popular hobbies out there - over the past number of decades > it's popularity has fallen, most likely due to the tremendous number of > other pursuits available to hobby-seekers. It's always great to try to keep > the numbers of amateur photographers as high as possible. > > Funny, but after having been away from photography for well over a decade > (other than family snaps, and such), I got back into it more or less > seriously when my late father picked up some stuff for me at a yard sale, > real cheap: a Spotmatic (different model than yours) a Takumar 2.0 55mm, > and a Takumar 200mm (in my case, an f3.5 pre-set). Odd co-incidence, eh? > > Now, when you say you're "new" to this, it's hard to know where to start, > because one doesn't know how "new", and what other equipment you've used > before (disposables, point and shoots, automatic/autofocus SLR's?). I think > that for starters, it would be good to get a beginners book on photography > (not on Pentax or Spotmatics, but photographic fundamentals). Make sure it > goes into the basics of exposure, shutter speed, aperture, all that stuff, > especially since what you have is a completely manual camera with a built in > light meter. You've got to know that stuff does to properly use your > camera! In the alternative, maybe take a beginners course at a community > college or through a local photography store or club. Make sure that it > starts from the beginning with the aforementioned fundamentals, and you'll > be just fine. > > Now, you probably would like to use your camera right away (who wouldn't?). > A real quick primer (this might take a while, sorry). Assume you know how > to load the film - if not let us know. Make sure that the ISO speed of the > film is set on the shutter speed dial (black dial on the top plate, to the > right of the prism bulge - has numbers from B to 1000 on it). Set the > shutter speed to somewhere between 60 and 250. Go outside. Set the > aperture ring of your 55mm lens to, say 8 or 11 (the aperture ring is the > one that has numbers from 2.0 to 16 or 22 - can't remember now). Look > through the viewfinder. On the right you'll see a needle and an "O". To > the left of the lens, on the body of the camera, you'll see a squarish black > switch that says ON (unless it's rubbed off). Push that up. You should see > the needle move. Move the aperture ring back and forth while you look > through the viewfinder at something relatively bright. The needle should > move up and down. > > If it doesn't, either the meter doesn't work, or you need a battery. > > If it does, all you have to do is match the needle at the O, and you've got > things (more or less) properly exposed. You'll see the needle move up and > down as you change the shutter speed, too. > > So, keep the shutter speed above 30 (it's really 1/30th of a second), match > the needle to the O, point at something you want to take a photo of, focus > using the outer ring of the lens, and shoot. > > Simple, eh? Well, no, it's not that simple, really. But, that'll get you > shooting. By seeing the results, and asking questions, you can improve, > learn how to manipulate things for various situations and for "looks" that > you want. But, this will get you started. If you know any of this, my > apologies, I hope I wasn't talking down to you. > > A few final thoughts: The Spotmatics and those Takumar lenses (which was > Pentax' brand of lenses back then) are amazing machines - the photos they're > capable of taking can be second to none. Takumar lenses are among the best > ever made - period. By learning photography on that camera, you'll be > forced to learn the fundamentals of photography, so that if you ever move on > to an auto-exposure auto-focus camera YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE CAMERA IS DOING, > and you can use it properly, over-riding the auto settings when needed, and > relying on them when possible. You will be a better photographer for > starting out the way you are, I guarantee it. > > And, whatever else you do (courses, other sites, books), stick with this > list. You'll learn much about your cameras, and photography in general > here. No one will ever put you down for asking what you may feel is a > "stupid" question. We really are a community here, more than any other list > I've ever seen. > > cheers, > frank > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > >From: Ja
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Frank, that's a great opening tutorial. Kudos for a job well done. frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Jasmine, > > Welcome to the list.
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Oh yeah, Jasmine, One more thing. Look at photographs. Lots of them. By everyone, but especially good photographers. Go to the library or a bookstore and get or look at books by the best photographers in the world. See what they do. It will give you inspiration, and once you have a good idea of what you're up to, you can look at those great works with a critical eye, deconstruct them, and figure out what they were up to. It will help you. There are always some amazing photographs on our monthly gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/ And, I forgot to tell you. Once you get going, and figure out the mechanics of your camera, take lots of photographs. Like several rolls a week. Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Critically analyze your work. Have others do the same. Learn from what you've done (both the good and the bad) and then go take more photographs! Most of all HAVE FUN!! That's really what it's all about, right? Okay, off my soapbox for now. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Jasmine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New to list Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 08:58:24 -0800 Hello! I am new to this list and new to photography. I have a feeling this is not the list for me - from the messages I've been reading you all seem very experienced. Maybe I need to find a list for beginners? Well, first, let me introduce myself - my name is Jasmine and I live in Portland, OR. I recently inherited a Spotmatic II, a Takumar 55m lens, a Takumar 200m lens, a Soligor zoom macro 28-80mm lens, and a vivitar skylight 49mm filter. I have ALWAYS wanted a camera like this - I've always been interested in photography - but I don't know how to use the darn thing! Most of the manuals and websites I've looked at are as confusing as figuring it out myself. (I may be wording the terms and equipment wrong - forgive me - like I said I'm new at this) Can anyone suggest anything for beginners? Pentax for Dummies? I have a lot of questions, some of them probably stupid (yes, I know, there's no such thing as a stupid question) and I don't want to take up space and time with you if I should be on another list. Thanks so much, jasmine _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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> I have a feeling this is not the list for me - from the messages > I've been reading you all seem very experienced. Bad assumption, Jasmine. Here on the PDML we demonstrate quite regularly that most of us are beginners in one way or another. (Actually, we ~all~ are beginners here, in my opinion, but some of us just don't realize it yet/still.) Welcome. As for your "new" gear, we do have some knowledgeable screwmount aficionados on here that hopefully can get you going in the right direction. Fred
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I owned a couple mamiya C33s and all 7? of the lens sets for about a dozen years until I sold them for the Pentax 67 system. The bodies never let me down and the lenses were all excellent but not quite as good as the superb P67 lenses in terms of contrast. I used them mostly for B&W with great results. There are two accessories that are a must. 1. the prism finder and 2. the hand grip. The camera is very awkward without these items but unfortunately the prism is costly. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: gregcooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new to list and a question Thanks to everyone for the ebay info. It was very helpful. By the way, I work a few blocks away from the biggest camera store here in Edmonton, and I often walk over on lunch breaks. I had been wanting to try some medium format but the price scares me, anyway a guy working at the store had an old mamiya c33 twin lens reflex which seems to be in pretty good shape and he sold it to me for $150 Canadian. Pretty good deal I think. Too bad winter is starting (Edmonton usual gets pretty brutal winters and they usually start around this time) Greg Cooper - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:07 AM Subject: Re: new to list and a question > Greg, > > Welcome. > I sell a lot on eBay and prefer to only ship to US & Canada. > dpconsult.com > Several packages have been lost in overseas shipments and > nobody likes the situation. (The source for one of my negatives.) > I usually set a reserve, when I do it, at the absolute lowest I'll take > for it. At the same time I use a Buy It Now just a little above the > going rate just to see if someone really wants it. Works sometimes. > The key to a good sale is good pics. My current 2 ads have a mediocre > and no pic, and so aren't selling (I've misplaced my digital camera lens!) > Personally, I think now is the time to reduce ( though not eliminate ) > one's film body inventory. Prices are dropping noticably. > (A good Super Program would have sold for $90 a year ago but today > seems to be going around $65.) Do it while you can. A Warranty is > a good selling point to make full use of. > > Enjoy the list & have fun. > > Collin >
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Thanks to everyone for the ebay info. It was very helpful. By the way, I work a few blocks away from the biggest camera store here in Edmonton, and I often walk over on lunch breaks. I had been wanting to try some medium format but the price scares me, anyway a guy working at the store had an old mamiya c33 twin lens reflex which seems to be in pretty good shape and he sold it to me for $150 Canadian. Pretty good deal I think. Too bad winter is starting (Edmonton usual gets pretty brutal winters and they usually start around this time) Greg Cooper - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:07 AM Subject: Re: new to list and a question > Greg, > > Welcome. > I sell a lot on eBay and prefer to only ship to US & Canada. > dpconsult.com > Several packages have been lost in overseas shipments and > nobody likes the situation. (The source for one of my negatives.) > I usually set a reserve, when I do it, at the absolute lowest I'll take > for it. At the same time I use a Buy It Now just a little above the > going rate just to see if someone really wants it. Works sometimes. > The key to a good sale is good pics. My current 2 ads have a mediocre > and no pic, and so aren't selling (I've misplaced my digital camera lens!) > Personally, I think now is the time to reduce ( though not eliminate ) > one's film body inventory. Prices are dropping noticably. > (A good Super Program would have sold for $90 a year ago but today > seems to be going around $65.) Do it while you can. A Warranty is > a good selling point to make full use of. > > Enjoy the list & have fun. > > Collin >
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LOL. Well there was talk earlier this month, at work, about sending me to Cold Lake for 4-5 weeks.If they do, and i drive out,i'll let you know.I'm sure i can stop for a min or two.:-) Dave > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Chris B wrote: > > > > > If the buyer has a good feedback rating you'll probably be ok. I ship > > > internationally to most countries and have never had a problem, but I've > > > only done that around 10 times. > > > > > > chris > > > > > I'm probably your best customer anyway eh.:-) > > > > Dave > > True enough, you hoser. I'll buy you some beer and back bacon if we ever > meet up. :) > > chris >
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I have sold (via eBay) to Italy, England, Scotland, Norway, Poland, Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, Australia, Canada, and the U.S. Maybe also Belgium. No problems, except that there are extra steps to take in the paperwork, it is more expensive (and harder to predict the cost) to ship, and maybe just a wee bit of anxiety until the deal is done. The advantage of taking the risk is that you will certainly expand the potential market for your used gear. I have bought (via eBay) from a similar range of places. My biggest adventure in that regard was buying a $1500 G4 Powerbook from a guy "in Seattle", only to have him ask me to send him the money in Romania. Why Romania I ask. I am here on a mission trip and I am selling my computer for expenses, he says. Right, I say. Bye, I say. And I bought my Powerbook from a guy in Colorado instead. Stan on 10/24/03 8:58 PM, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Actually there are two questions, the second is while I have bought on >> ebay and have never sold, I've noticed some sellers don't ship to >> certain places -why is that? I live in Canada, should I only ship to >> Canada and U.S? > > It depends on your comfort level. There are some places (like Nigeria) > that are notorious for scams, and should be avoided, while others > (Indonesia, the Middle East, etc.) aren't as notorious, but are still > risky. > > One of the biggest problems with shipping internationally is getting paid > in a secure manner. Canada and the US have very strict laws regarding > mail fraud, but it can be difficult and expensive to pursue scammers in > other countries. If the buyer pays with a money order, it could be a > month or two before your bank discovers that it's a forgery, leaving you > on the hook for it. If they pay with PayPal, you're really screwed. Many > international buyers love PayPal because it's fast and easy, but PayPal > refuses to offer any seller protection for items shipped internationally. > In other words, if your buyer requests a chargeback on his credit card for > his PayPal payment, you're SOL. PayPal will withdraw that money from your > bank account or credit card without your permission, and then charge you a > $10.00 US fee for the chargeback. > > If the buyer has a good feedback rating you'll probably be ok. I ship > internationally to most countries and have never had a problem, but I've > only done that around 10 times. > > chris > >
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> Actually there are two questions, the second is while I have bought on > ebay and have never sold, I've noticed some sellers don't ship to > certain places -why is that? I live in Canada, should I only ship to > Canada and U.S? It depends on your comfort level. There are some places (like Nigeria) that are notorious for scams, and should be avoided, while others (Indonesia, the Middle East, etc.) aren't as notorious, but are still risky. One of the biggest problems with shipping internationally is getting paid in a secure manner. Canada and the US have very strict laws regarding mail fraud, but it can be difficult and expensive to pursue scammers in other countries. If the buyer pays with a money order, it could be a month or two before your bank discovers that it's a forgery, leaving you on the hook for it. If they pay with PayPal, you're really screwed. Many international buyers love PayPal because it's fast and easy, but PayPal refuses to offer any seller protection for items shipped internationally. In other words, if your buyer requests a chargeback on his credit card for his PayPal payment, you're SOL. PayPal will withdraw that money from your bank account or credit card without your permission, and then charge you a $10.00 US fee for the chargeback. If the buyer has a good feedback rating you'll probably be ok. I ship internationally to most countries and have never had a problem, but I've only done that around 10 times. chris
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I don't think so-I don't know what the letters stand for. I work for a printing company called Riley's. Greg - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:40 PM Subject: Re: new to list and a question > You don't by chance do work for CBS do you (HD at the Final Four?) > Cory Waters > > - Original Message - > From: "gregcooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:24 AM > Subject: new to list and a question > > > > Hi Everyone: > > I've read the list for a while now but have a question so I thought I'd > > subscribe. Before my question I'll tell you that my history is a Nikkormat > > FT2 I got as a present when I was a kid in the 70's. It packed it in two > > years ago and a coworker gave me his dad's long un used Pentax Super > Program > > which I initially didn't like compared to the Nikkormat but Pentax grew > on > > me and now I also have an me super, Z-1p, ist, and > > MZ-3 (as well as lots of lenses). The lead up to my question is: > > I had given up trying to find a good used Z-1p at a reasonable price, and > > bought the MZ-3 in last February. Of course, two months later I found a > Z-1p > > at a reasonable price. I shoot lots of sports and I love the hyperprogram > > and 4 frames per second. But I rarely use the MZ-3 and think maybe I > should > > sell it while it still has a warrantee. > > My question is: what is a reasonable price to set as a reserve on ebay, > > considering it still has about 4 months warrantee left ( I checked with > > pentax and they said it is transferable) and has only about 10 rolls put > > through it? > > Actually there are two questions, the second is while I have bought on > > ebay and have never sold, I've noticed some sellers don't ship to > > certain places -why is that? I live in Canada, should I only ship to > > Canada and U.S? > > Sorry, message is a lot longer than I originally planned, anyway, best > > wishes to everyone > > Greg Cooper > > Edmonton, Alberta > > Canada > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003 >
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Hi, Greg, I don't know the answer to either question. I don't own anything Pentaxian newer than an MX (for now... Hee hee...), and I don't sell on eBay. I just wanted to welcome you to the list. It's always nice to have another Canadian aboard. cheers, frank from Toronto "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "gregcooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: new to list and a question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:24:30 -0700 Hi Everyone: I've read the list for a while now but have a question so I thought I'd subscribe. Before my question I'll tell you that my history is a Nikkormat FT2 I got as a present when I was a kid in the 70's. It packed it in two years ago and a coworker gave me his dad's long un used Pentax Super Program which I initially didn't like compared to the Nikkormat but Pentax grew on me and now I also have an me super, Z-1p, ist, and MZ-3 (as well as lots of lenses). The lead up to my question is: I had given up trying to find a good used Z-1p at a reasonable price, and bought the MZ-3 in last February. Of course, two months later I found a Z-1p at a reasonable price. I shoot lots of sports and I love the hyperprogram and 4 frames per second. But I rarely use the MZ-3 and think maybe I should sell it while it still has a warrantee. My question is: what is a reasonable price to set as a reserve on ebay, considering it still has about 4 months warrantee left ( I checked with pentax and they said it is transferable) and has only about 10 rolls put through it? Actually there are two questions, the second is while I have bought on ebay and have never sold, I've noticed some sellers don't ship to certain places -why is that? I live in Canada, should I only ship to Canada and U.S? Sorry, message is a lot longer than I originally planned, anyway, best wishes to everyone Greg Cooper Edmonton, Alberta Canada _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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You don't by chance do work for CBS do you (HD at the Final Four?) Cory Waters - Original Message - From: "gregcooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:24 AM Subject: new to list and a question > Hi Everyone: > I've read the list for a while now but have a question so I thought I'd > subscribe. Before my question I'll tell you that my history is a Nikkormat > FT2 I got as a present when I was a kid in the 70's. It packed it in two > years ago and a coworker gave me his dad's long un used Pentax Super Program > which I initially didn't like compared to the Nikkormat but Pentax grew on > me and now I also have an me super, Z-1p, ist, and > MZ-3 (as well as lots of lenses). The lead up to my question is: > I had given up trying to find a good used Z-1p at a reasonable price, and > bought the MZ-3 in last February. Of course, two months later I found a Z-1p > at a reasonable price. I shoot lots of sports and I love the hyperprogram > and 4 frames per second. But I rarely use the MZ-3 and think maybe I should > sell it while it still has a warrantee. > My question is: what is a reasonable price to set as a reserve on ebay, > considering it still has about 4 months warrantee left ( I checked with > pentax and they said it is transferable) and has only about 10 rolls put > through it? > Actually there are two questions, the second is while I have bought on > ebay and have never sold, I've noticed some sellers don't ship to > certain places -why is that? I live in Canada, should I only ship to > Canada and U.S? > Sorry, message is a lot longer than I originally planned, anyway, best > wishes to everyone > Greg Cooper > Edmonton, Alberta > Canada > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.530 / Virus Database: 325 - Release Date: 10/22/2003
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Greg, Welcome. I sell a lot on eBay and prefer to only ship to US & Canada. dpconsult.com Several packages have been lost in overseas shipments and nobody likes the situation. (The source for one of my negatives.) I usually set a reserve, when I do it, at the absolute lowest I'll take for it. At the same time I use a Buy It Now just a little above the going rate just to see if someone really wants it. Works sometimes. The key to a good sale is good pics. My current 2 ads have a mediocre and no pic, and so aren't selling (I've misplaced my digital camera lens!) Personally, I think now is the time to reduce ( though not eliminate ) one's film body inventory. Prices are dropping noticably. (A good Super Program would have sold for $90 a year ago but today seems to be going around $65.) Do it while you can. A Warranty is a good selling point to make full use of. Enjoy the list & have fun. Collin
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Welcome, Others more knowledgeable than me can answer better. With a negative, "everything" is an interpretation. There is no such thing as "as is".Unlike transparency films where what you see is what you get. Certain adjustments can be made, but it's the observer's intuition and memory that determines what constitutes a correctly processed print. There's a lot of latitude for exposure and correction with negative film. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Chris Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: new to list > Hi All - > > I just joined the list, and thought that I would introduce myself. I am a > new pentax owner, and I am also fairly new to photography, having only > used point and shoot cameras in the past. I picked up a Pentax MZ-50 kit > with a 35-80 zoom to start out with. I choose Pentax because my father has > had the same pentax camera and lenses for over 20 years, and it keeps on > going. > > I'm In the Greater Vancouver area of BC, Canada, so there is no shortage > of pictures to take. > > I am starting to venture out of "pict" mode now, using Av mode to start > out with. :) So far I think my prints are okay, but the lab that I take > them to may not be the best. Can you ask almost any lab to not "fix" the > prints and do them as is from the negative? > > Cheers - Chris > > -- > Chris Murray /"\ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN > http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL > Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .