Re: *ist D without a card
It doesn't matter any more. I have the card and the camera has already taken some incredibly good micrographs. But I can say for sure that the *ist D I have here -- serial number 5501200 -- will not allow changes via the menu unless there's a card in the slot. I'll post a picture (or two) when I have the time. Right now I'm up to my neck. Don P. J. Alling wrote: I think the camera should work without a card. Well, at least allow you to change settings and control it from the computer with the remote assistant software. Your *ist-D may have a problem. For example, I've never been able to get the OK button on my *ist-D to fire the flash, (I don't know, maybe that function only works with certain flash models, but I haven't found/noticed any, documentation on that), I assume that it should work with any flash. On the other hand that seems to be the only function that doesn't work, and it's not a big deal to me, so I haven't done anything about it. Your *ist-D should at least let you change settings without a card, mine does. If you want to fire the shutter tethered without a card you'll have to set "shutter release without CF" to Yes. Don Williams wrote: I don't *want* to use the camera without a card by the way. After spending so much on the damned thing a card is not going to make much difference. I simply don't have a card. Its on the way from NJ. I thought I'd start using the camera in the meantime -- and found I couldn't -- that's all. Its not a big deal simply an observation. The camera will work, but not without a lens. This can't be changed. Don W skye wrote: my understanding is that Don was spending much of the time with his camera hooked up to his computer. In those cases where the photo is being transferred directly between the PC and camera, you wouldn't, or shouldn't, need to have a card. Certainly, using a card is one way to get around that, but the interesting thing is that the camera won't work without one. And I would like to stress that this is merely interesting for me, not a huge problem. On 10/27/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why is it intersting what the camera may or may not do without a memorycard? Except perhaps for using it with a remote. Just put a card in it :-) Regards -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
Re: *ist D without a card
I think the camera should work without a card. Well, at least allow you to change settings and control it from the computer with the remote assistant software. Your *ist-D may have a problem. For example, I've never been able to get the OK button on my *ist-D to fire the flash, (I don't know, maybe that function only works with certain flash models, but I haven't found/noticed any, documentation on that), I assume that it should work with any flash. On the other hand that seems to be the only function that doesn't work, and it's not a big deal to me, so I haven't done anything about it. Your *ist-D should at least let you change settings without a card, mine does. If you want to fire the shutter tethered without a card you'll have to set "shutter release without CF" to Yes. Don Williams wrote: I don't *want* to use the camera without a card by the way. After spending so much on the damned thing a card is not going to make much difference. I simply don't have a card. Its on the way from NJ. I thought I'd start using the camera in the meantime -- and found I couldn't -- that's all. Its not a big deal simply an observation. The camera will work, but not without a lens. This can't be changed. Don W skye wrote: my understanding is that Don was spending much of the time with his camera hooked up to his computer. In those cases where the photo is being transferred directly between the PC and camera, you wouldn't, or shouldn't, need to have a card. Certainly, using a card is one way to get around that, but the interesting thing is that the camera won't work without one. And I would like to stress that this is merely interesting for me, not a huge problem. On 10/27/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why is it intersting what the camera may or may not do without a memorycard? Except perhaps for using it with a remote. Just put a card in it :-) Regards -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: *ist D without a card
I don't *want* to use the camera without a card by the way. After spending so much on the damned thing a card is not going to make much difference. I simply don't have a card. Its on the way from NJ. I thought I'd start using the camera in the meantime -- and found I couldn't -- that's all. Its not a big deal simply an observation. The camera will work, but not without a lens. This can't be changed. Don W skye wrote: my understanding is that Don was spending much of the time with his camera hooked up to his computer. In those cases where the photo is being transferred directly between the PC and camera, you wouldn't, or shouldn't, need to have a card. Certainly, using a card is one way to get around that, but the interesting thing is that the camera won't work without one. And I would like to stress that this is merely interesting for me, not a huge problem. On 10/27/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why is it intersting what the camera may or may not do without a memorycard? Except perhaps for using it with a remote. Just put a card in it :-) Regards -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
Re: *ist D without a card
my understanding is that Don was spending much of the time with his camera hooked up to his computer. In those cases where the photo is being transferred directly between the PC and camera, you wouldn't, or shouldn't, need to have a card. Certainly, using a card is one way to get around that, but the interesting thing is that the camera won't work without one. And I would like to stress that this is merely interesting for me, not a huge problem. On 10/27/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it intersting what the camera may or may not do without a memorycard? > Except perhaps for using it with a remote. Just put a card in it :-) > Regards > > >
Re: *ist D without a card
Jens Bladt wrote: Why is it intersting what the camera may or may not do without a memorycard? Except perhaps for using it with a remote. Just put a card in it :-) Regards I think you missed part of the thread. He had a card on order, and none in it, his new-to-him camera! He didn't want to wait, he wanted to take pictures right now! And the camera wouldn't let him. "NO! Not without a card!" ;-) At least the way I read it... keith
RE: *ist D without a card
Why is it intersting what the camera may or may not do without a memorycard? Except perhaps for using it with a remote. Just put a card in it :-) Regards -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. oktober 2005 10:27 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: *ist D without a card I've tried again to set the custom function 'F stop other than A' and get the same message each time. No card in Camera. If OK is pressed again -- nothing. Don By the way I sold my very first Pentax, an ME Super in beautiful condition, on eBay last week -- and a P30 as well. I have one more P30 here in very clean condition if anyone is interested. After this my Pentax arsenal will comprise: A P30T almost new An MZ50 in wonderful shape The new *ist D plus a cupboard full of lenses (one autofocus) and some of them A. I could part with a couple of shorter zooms if anyone is interested. Don Don Williams wrote: > That's kind of you but the one that's on the way from NJ will probably > get here in a few days. I just couldn't bring myself to pay 69€ (here in > Finland) for a card when I could get the same one for $12 plus postage > of $8. I'll get more of them in due course but since the camera will be > on a microscope most of the time one 512 will do till next spring. Then > I'll need several. > > skye wrote: >> eh? I can make menu changes without a card in the camera. Do I have a >> super special D? >> >> I have a spare 8MB card you can have if you like. >> >> On 10/26/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I have discovered that almost nothing >>> works without a card in the camera. No >>> menu changes can be made. Using the >>> remote program the camera will expose a >>> frame (***L) then download it to the PC >>> and that's about all. >>> >>> Don >>> -- >>> Dr E D F Williams >>> ___ >>> http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams >>> See feature: The Cement Company from Hell >>> Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005 >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
Re: *ist D without a card
PS I forgot to mention that I did upgrade the firmware of the istD when I got it (2 years ago). Are they shipping the new istD cameras with upgraded firmware now or do you still have to upgrade by yourself? I really don't think the firmware could be causing this problem, but as I say, my camera tends to cooperate with me even without a card in the camera. On 10/27/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've tried again to set the custom > function 'F stop other than A' and get > the same message each time. No card in > Camera. If OK is pressed again -- nothing. > > Don
Re: *ist D without a card
When I don't have a card in the camera, the LCD screen constantlyreads "No Card in Camera". However, this does not prevent me fromchanging settings. I can readily access the menu, change the F stopsetting in my custom menu, and then hit the menu button again (twice)to exit the menu. This changes my settings, but the LCD screen willcontinue to remind me that there is no card in my camera. If your istDoperates differently from mine there may be something odd going on? Also as a reminder there is a function that prevents you from doing ashutter release unless there is a card in the camera -- I doubt thisis your problem since the function is left off unless you with toactivate it. But I just wanted to mention it as a related topic. Good luck.. On 10/27/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I've tried again to set the custom> function 'F stop other than A' and get> the same message each time. No card in> Camera. If OK is pressed again -- nothing.>> Don>> By the way I sold my very first Pentax,> an ME Super in beautiful condition, on> eBay last week -- and a P30 as well. I> have one more P30 here in very clean> condition if anyone is interested. After> this my Pentax arsenal will comprise:>> A P30T almost new> An MZ50 in wonderful shape> The new *ist D>> plus a cupboard full of lenses (one> autofocus) and some of them A. I could> part with a couple of shorter zooms if> anyone is interested.>> Don>> Don Williams wrote:> > That's kind of you but the one that's on the way from NJ will probably> > get here in a few days. I just couldn't bring myself to pay 69€ (here in> > Finland) for a card when I could get the same one for $12 plus postage> > of $8. I'll get more of them in due course but since the camera! will be> > on a microscope most of the time one 512 will do till next spring. Then> > I'll need several.> >> > skye wrote:> >> eh? I can make menu changes without a card in the camera. Do I have a> >> super special D?> >>> >> I have a spare 8MB card you can have if you like.> >>> >> On 10/26/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >>> I have discovered that almost nothing> >>> works without a card in the camera. No> >>> menu changes can be made. Using the> >>> remote program the camera will expose a> >>> frame (***L) then download it to the PC> >>> and that's about all.> >>> Don> >>> --> >>> Dr E D F Williams> >>> ___> >>> http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams> >>> See feature: The Cement Company from Hell> >>> Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005> >>> >>> >>> >>> --> Dr E D F Williams> ___> http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams> See feature: The Cement Company from Hell> Updated: P! hotomicro Link -- 18 05 2005>>
Re: *ist D without a card
I've tried again to set the custom function 'F stop other than A' and get the same message each time. No card in Camera. If OK is pressed again -- nothing. Don By the way I sold my very first Pentax, an ME Super in beautiful condition, on eBay last week -- and a P30 as well. I have one more P30 here in very clean condition if anyone is interested. After this my Pentax arsenal will comprise: A P30T almost new An MZ50 in wonderful shape The new *ist D plus a cupboard full of lenses (one autofocus) and some of them A. I could part with a couple of shorter zooms if anyone is interested. Don Don Williams wrote: That's kind of you but the one that's on the way from NJ will probably get here in a few days. I just couldn't bring myself to pay 69€ (here in Finland) for a card when I could get the same one for $12 plus postage of $8. I'll get more of them in due course but since the camera will be on a microscope most of the time one 512 will do till next spring. Then I'll need several. skye wrote: eh? I can make menu changes without a card in the camera. Do I have a super special D? I have a spare 8MB card you can have if you like. On 10/26/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have discovered that almost nothing works without a card in the camera. No menu changes can be made. Using the remote program the camera will expose a frame (***L) then download it to the PC and that's about all. Don -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005 -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
Re: *ist D without a card
High quality large Jpeg. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi, Resetting menus in the istDS without a card inserted seems to work. I just reset several menu items, turned the camera off and on, and the settings held. What is "***L"? Shel [Original Message] From: Don Williams I have discovered that almost nothing works without a card in the camera. No menu changes can be made. Using the remote program the camera will expose a frame (***L) then download it to the PC and that's about all. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: *ist D without a card
highest quality large JPEG. Herb... - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:56 PM Subject: RE: *ist D without a card Shel queried: What is "***L"? I was wondering that myself. My best guess is that it's "hell" for people who are shy about using that word. Hell, we have a town in Michigan named Hell. So we have to use it all the time. But what the hell do I know?
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On 26/10/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >What is "***L"? Why: SHEL of course ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: *ist D without a card
That's kind of you but the one that's on the way from NJ will probably get here in a few days. I just couldn't bring myself to pay 69€ (here in Finland) for a card when I could get the same one for $12 plus postage of $8. I'll get more of them in due course but since the camera will be on a microscope most of the time one 512 will do till next spring. Then I'll need several. skye wrote: eh? I can make menu changes without a card in the camera. Do I have a super special D? I have a spare 8MB card you can have if you like. On 10/26/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have discovered that almost nothing works without a card in the camera. No menu changes can be made. Using the remote program the camera will expose a frame (***L) then download it to the PC and that's about all. Don -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005 -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005
Re: *ist D without a card
um... it's the largest size JPG setting. I think they go *L, **L, and ***L, then TIF and RAW. On 10/26/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is "***L"? >
RE: *ist D without a card
Shel queried: > > What is "***L"? I was wondering that myself. My best guess is that it's "hell" for people who are shy about using that word. Hell, we have a town in Michigan named Hell. So we have to use it all the time. But what the hell do I know? Paul
RE: *ist D without a card
Hi, Resetting menus in the istDS without a card inserted seems to work. I just reset several menu items, turned the camera off and on, and the settings held. What is "***L"? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Don Williams > I have discovered that almost nothing > works without a card in the camera. No > menu changes can be made. Using the > remote program the camera will expose a > frame (***L) then download it to the PC > and that's about all.
Re: *ist D without a card
eh? I can make menu changes without a card in the camera. Do I have a super special D? I have a spare 8MB card you can have if you like. On 10/26/05, Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have discovered that almost nothing > works without a card in the camera. No > menu changes can be made. Using the > remote program the camera will expose a > frame (***L) then download it to the PC > and that's about all. > > Don > -- > Dr E D F Williams > ___ > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams > See feature: The Cement Company from Hell > Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005 > >
Re: *ist D without a card
Then just stick a 64 meg card in the slot. You can get one for peanuts. When I use my camera with Remote Assistant, I have a card in the slot. It doesn't get used; the camera writes to the computer hard drive, but all of the software is happy. Paul > I have discovered that almost nothing > works without a card in the camera. No > menu changes can be made. Using the > remote program the camera will expose a > frame (***L) then download it to the PC > and that's about all. > > Don > -- > Dr E D F Williams > ___ > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams > See feature: The Cement Company from Hell > Updated: Photomicro Link -- 18 05 2005 >
