Re: A little 6x7 enabling
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:57:42 -0600, William Robb wrote: >Warning, this is about a 500kb download. >http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ One hell of a difference, eh? :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
William, Boy, if I hand't already taken the plunge, this is quite a difference. Much smoother and no comparison in grain. I just took delivery of a 165/2.8 and 55/4.0 from KEH. Just unwrapped them, but haven't even put them on the camera yet. This enabling is getting very contagious. Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. Bruce Dayton Friday, February 15, 2002, 3:57:42 PM, you wrote: WR> Warning, this is about a 500kb download. WR> http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A little 6x7 enabling
Worth the wait to see the result - excellent. Love the sky - I suppose that a new format is due a go - what first, digital or medium format - ducks from Aaron's abuse! Malcolm Bill wrote: > Warning, this is about a 500kb download. > http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Took just a few seconds. Len --- - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: A little 6x7 enabling > Warning, this is about a 500kb download. > http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
So ... there's nothing there that we didn't know. A big neg beats a small neg in quality. Frankly, I'd have expected better quality from the 6x7. William Robb wrote: > > Warning, this is about a 500kb download. > http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ You can't have everything. Where would you put it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Would you stop already! :) When I hit the $200 Million Lotto tonight I`m going to get a few of those 67II`s. In the 6X7 detail pic there is something that looks like a fire at the bottom of the right tank, any idea what it is? The detail achieved with the big neg is amazing! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: A little 6x7 enabling > Warning, this is about a 500kb download. > http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/6x7_Enable/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Looks like an irrigation thingy to me. Bill KG4LOV, WPRS983 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the 6X7 detail pic there is > something that looks like a fire at the bottom of the right tank, any > idea what it is? The detail achieved with the big neg is amazing! > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
On Friday, February 15, 2002, at 07:23 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > - what first, digital or medium format - ducks from > Aaron's abuse! Abuse? Please! I will merely rephrase your question to "what first, crap or gorgeous negatives?" in the hopes that you will make the right decision. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 07:44 AM, Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: > Apparently it is easier to keep the Horizon horizontal in 35mm then in > 6x7cm. I've noticed that my horizontals and verticals are a little off with the 75mm. I suspect it is the large viewfinder image that is messin' me up, since it is harder to take in the overall image in a quick glance. So as a result I've been thinking about putting a grid screen in my 67. Anyone done it themselves here, or is this something best left to Pentax service? And what grid to get...the Pentax or the Beattie? Are there others? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
I've also noticed that it's harder to judge the horizonals and verticals. A grid would be an excellent solution. Frequently, when using a tripod, I tilt down to get the horizon at the top of the frame just to check position before tilting back up to my frame and shooting. Paul Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 07:44 AM, Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: > > > Apparently it is easier to keep the Horizon horizontal in 35mm then in > > 6x7cm. > > I've noticed that my horizontals and verticals are a little off with the > 75mm. I suspect it is the large viewfinder image that is messin' me up, > since it is harder to take in the overall image in a quick glance. So > as a result I've been thinking about putting a grid screen in my 67. > Anyone done it themselves here, or is this something best left to Pentax > service? And what grid to get...the Pentax or the Beattie? Are there > others? > > -Aaron > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Heck, I am having that problem with my ME Super. Wonder if I could get a grid screen for it. Anybody know? Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: A little 6x7 enabling > I've also noticed that it's harder to judge the horizonals and verticals. A > grid would be an excellent solution. Frequently, when using a tripod, I > tilt down to get the horizon at the top of the frame just to check position > before tilting back up to my frame and shooting. > Paul > > Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 07:44 AM, Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: > > > > > Apparently it is easier to keep the Horizon horizontal in 35mm then in > > > 6x7cm. > > > > I've noticed that my horizontals and verticals are a little off with the > > 75mm. I suspect it is the large viewfinder image that is messin' me up, > > since it is harder to take in the overall image in a quick glance. So > > as a result I've been thinking about putting a grid screen in my 67. > > Anyone done it themselves here, or is this something best left to Pentax > > service? And what grid to get...the Pentax or the Beattie? Are there > > others? > > > > -Aaron > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
I agree with the gids - both of my bodies have the grid screen attached - i just preffer them to conventional split matte's. It's not that I use them for horizonal\vertical alignment though... I use them for composition (1/3rds etc) - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: A little 6x7 enabling > I've also noticed that it's harder to judge the horizonals and verticals. A > grid would be an excellent solution. Frequently, when using a tripod, I > tilt down to get the horizon at the top of the frame just to check position > before tilting back up to my frame and shooting. > Paul > > Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 07:44 AM, Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: > > > > > Apparently it is easier to keep the Horizon horizontal in 35mm then in > > > 6x7cm. > > > > I've noticed that my horizontals and verticals are a little off with the > > 75mm. I suspect it is the large viewfinder image that is messin' me up, > > since it is harder to take in the overall image in a quick glance. So > > as a result I've been thinking about putting a grid screen in my 67. > > Anyone done it themselves here, or is this something best left to Pentax > > service? And what grid to get...the Pentax or the Beattie? Are there > > others? > > > > -Aaron > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A little 6x7 enabling
Since Friday I have a grid screen in my PZ-1, it looks as if it will be a big help for my horizons. I have been thinking about this screen for quite a while, and needed Peter to enable me. It is too early for a good opinion on it yet, but sofar it looks positive. Frits Wüthrich Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Saturday, February 16, 2002, at 07:44 AM, Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: > > > Apparently it is easier to keep the Horizon horizontal in 35mm then in > > 6x7cm. > > I've noticed that my horizontals and verticals are a little off with the > 75mm. I suspect it is the large viewfinder image that is messin' me up, > since it is harder to take in the overall image in a quick glance. So > as a result I've been thinking about putting a grid screen in my 67. > Anyone done it themselves here, or is this something best left to Pentax > service? And what grid to get...the Pentax or the Beattie? Are there > others? > > -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
"T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heck, I am having that problem with my ME Super. Wonder if I could get a > grid screen for it. Anybody know? That is not an easy task. Try to find a decent MX body. You can put LX screens in it, but the meter will be off. I don't know by how much, but you can compensate for that (using the film speed dial). -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Paul Stenquist wrote: > I've also noticed that it's harder to judge the horizonals and > verticals. A grid would be an excellent solution. Frequently, when > using a tripod, I tilt down to get the horizon at the top of the frame > just to check position before tilting back up to my frame and > shooting. For 35mm I usually do what you just said. When I'm handholding I am shocking at getting unstraight horizons. My 6x7 came with a Pentax grid screen. It is absolutely fantastic when I'm handholding it. I also have two spirit levels on my tripod head (Manfrotto 029) which help a lot. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
On Monday, February 18, 2002, at 12:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For 35mm I usually do what you just said. When I'm handholding I am > shocking at getting unstraight horizons. My problem with the 75mm is not so much horizons but vertical lines -- being a tall person, I have to really keep my eyes peeled for keystoning and such, and I never do a good enough job of it. I quite like having a grid in my LX. So, no one here has been brave enough to install a new screen in a 67 by themselves? -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
That's one nice thing about the Yashica Mat. It has a grid on the screen to aid in getting horizontals and verticals correct. Bill > > For 35mm I usually do what you just said. When I'm handholding I am > > shocking at getting unstraight horizons. > > My problem with the 75mm is not so much horizons but vertical lines -- > being a tall person, I have to really keep my eyes peeled for keystoning > and such, and I never do a good enough job of it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
About a 1/3rd of a stop. However it wouldn't be the same as using a ME Super. At 08:18 PM 2/17/2002 +, you wrote: >"T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heck, I am having that problem with my ME Super. Wonder if I could get a > > grid screen for it. Anybody know? > >That is not an easy task. Try to find a decent MX body. You can put LX >screens in it, but the meter will be off. I don't know by how much, but >you can compensate for that (using the film speed dial). >-- >http://ebg13.com \\|// >Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org >Assume nothing, expect anything. >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
You can find bargans on e-bay now and again. I was able to pick up a MX with winder and SCMP 135 f3.5 for about $230. If I was of a mind to I could probably put the winder and 135 back on e-bay and get back more than half of the purchase price making the cost for the MX about $100. (Based on e-bay prices that's not even wish full thinking). At 03:59 PM 2/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >There were a couple of grid screens available for the MX. One with a split >image, and one plain ground glass. I had the plain ground glass in my MXs >back in the eighties. > >However, when I had the money to get some cameras a couple of years ago, I >could not find any fully functional MXs. Now, I don't have any spare change >(and I can tell your I don't like being poor). Since I consider the MX as >the epitome of SLR's, that is what I would have if I had the choice. > >Ciao, >Graywolf > > > >- Original Message - >From: Johan Schoone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:18 PM >Subject: Re: A little 6x7 enabling > > > > "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Heck, I am having that problem with my ME Super. Wonder if I could get a > > > grid screen for it. Anybody know? > > > > That is not an easy task. Try to find a decent MX body. You can put LX > > screens in it, but the meter will be off. I don't know by how much, but > > you can compensate for that (using the film speed dial). > > -- > > http://ebg13.com \\|// > > Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org > > Assume nothing, expect anything. > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [About using LX focussing screens in MX bodies] > About a 1/3rd of a stop. However it wouldn't be the same as using a ME Super. That's easy to compensate for (should be easy to figure out for MX users). I don't have hands-on experience with the ME Super (but with its predecessor, the ME). AFAIK they are very similar, apart from the shutter (and its controls). Question: Does the manual for the ME Super mention the `shutter cocked' indicator? My copy of the manual (for the ME) doesn't, but that indicator is there (and shown in the pictures in the manual, but never mentioned). Back to the 67 dept.: It's not for me. I could afford a basic 67 system, but I must put it to work *much* more often than I do with my current 35mm setup, just to justify its purchase. Using (not wasting) one roll of film per week is the absolute minimum. But if someone tells me he/she hits the limitations of the 35mm format, I'll say: Pentax has a solution for that (even two; don't forget the (intermediate) 645 format)! -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
