Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-14 Thread Paul Stenquist 
Those who shoot video with DSLRs use video monitors. Info here: 
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLetter/Tricking-Out.jsp

Paul via phone

> On Apr 14, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> I wish I could take credit for it... I came up with the idea while combing 
> the local Best Buy, Staples & Game Stop for a screen with HDMI in. Which was 
> not fruitful. Only after I got my rig set up did I learn that I was not an av 
> pioneer, and this solution has been employed elsewhere!  
> ;)
> 
> -c
> 
> 
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Clever idea!
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:21, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
>> 
>> So... here's an update... while waiting on the cheapo display screen
>> that I ordered to arrive,  inspiration struck.  Connecting the camera
>> from the pc/av port to a personal dvd player transmits everything on
>> the lcd screen - including live view and image review - to that
>> screen.  The only glitch is that the aspect ratio isn't quite right,
>> working on that...
>> 
>> Anyhooo, an interesting development, I thought.  I used the pc/av
>> cable that came with the camera, and this dvd player, which I picked
>> up used:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DVP-FX820-8-Inch-Portable-Player/dp/B00139R1TA
>> 
>> If I can get the aspect ratio issue ironed out, it could be a
>> moderately OK solution... the screen is a good size, 8 inches, tilts,
>> flips & swivels,  and it has a battery pack and a car adapter.
>> 
>> -c
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Christine Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> Thanks guys.
>>> 
>>> I am currently leaning towards picking up a monitor that will do hdmi in...
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I have in the past been able to use the hdmi connection from camera 
>>> to projector, enabling me to show students both live view and image 
>>> review
>>> 
>>> -c
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christine,
>>> 
>>> As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
>>> ability for video in, only video out.
>>> 
>>> There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, 
>>> and, I suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used for the 
>>> video work with Canikon DSLRs.
>>> As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
>>> building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
>>> I am sure there are others.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
>>> investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax DSLR 
>>> firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
>>> I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing 
>>> recorded videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are 
>>> shooting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions here. 
>>> I remember there were a few options I considered, but since the immediate 
>>> need disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what would work.
>>> I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a look at 
>>> this thread:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Igor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
>>> cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for 
>>> video in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
>>> know the market, but something like this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
>>> suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device 
>>> that broadcast a stream onto wifi .
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-14 Thread Christine Nielsen 
I wish I could take credit for it... I came up with the idea while combing the 
local Best Buy, Staples & Game Stop for a screen with HDMI in. Which was not 
fruitful. Only after I got my rig set up did I learn that I was not an av 
pioneer, and this solution has been employed elsewhere!  
;)

-c


On Apr 14, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

Clever idea!

B



> On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:21, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> So... here's an update... while waiting on the cheapo display screen
> that I ordered to arrive,  inspiration struck.  Connecting the camera
> from the pc/av port to a personal dvd player transmits everything on
> the lcd screen - including live view and image review - to that
> screen.  The only glitch is that the aspect ratio isn't quite right,
> working on that...
> 
> Anyhooo, an interesting development, I thought.  I used the pc/av
> cable that came with the camera, and this dvd player, which I picked
> up used:
> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DVP-FX820-8-Inch-Portable-Player/dp/B00139R1TA
> 
> If I can get the aspect ratio issue ironed out, it could be a
> moderately OK solution... the screen is a good size, 8 inches, tilts,
> flips & swivels,  and it has a battery pack and a car adapter.
> 
> -c
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Christine Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> Thanks guys.
>> 
>> I am currently leaning towards picking up a monitor that will do hdmi in...
>> 
>> FWIW, I have in the past been able to use the hdmi connection from camera to 
>> projector, enabling me to show students both live view and image review
>> 
>> -c
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Christine,
>> 
>> As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
>> ability for video in, only video out.
>> 
>> There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, 
>> and, I suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used for the 
>> video work with Canikon DSLRs.
>> As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
>> building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
>> I am sure there are others.
>> 
>> 
>> I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
>> investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax DSLR 
>> firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
>> I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing 
>> recorded videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are 
>> shooting.
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions here. 
>> I remember there were a few options I considered, but since the immediate 
>> need disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what would work.
>> I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a look at 
>> this thread:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:
>> 
>> On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> 
>>  You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
>>  cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for 
>> video in.
>> 
>> 
>> that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
>> know the market, but something like this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
>> suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device 
>> that broadcast a stream onto wifi .
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-14 Thread Bob W-PDML 
Clever idea!

B



> On 14 Apr 2015, at 19:21, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> So... here's an update... while waiting on the cheapo display screen
> that I ordered to arrive,  inspiration struck.  Connecting the camera
> from the pc/av port to a personal dvd player transmits everything on
> the lcd screen - including live view and image review - to that
> screen.  The only glitch is that the aspect ratio isn't quite right,
> working on that...
> 
> Anyhooo, an interesting development, I thought.  I used the pc/av
> cable that came with the camera, and this dvd player, which I picked
> up used:
> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DVP-FX820-8-Inch-Portable-Player/dp/B00139R1TA
> 
> If I can get the aspect ratio issue ironed out, it could be a
> moderately OK solution... the screen is a good size, 8 inches, tilts,
> flips & swivels,  and it has a battery pack and a car adapter.
> 
> -c
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Christine Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> Thanks guys.
>> 
>> I am currently leaning towards picking up a monitor that will do hdmi in...
>> 
>> FWIW, I have in the past been able to use the hdmi connection from camera to 
>> projector, enabling me to show students both live view and image review
>> 
>> -c
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Christine,
>> 
>> As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
>> ability for video in, only video out.
>> 
>> There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, 
>> and, I suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used for the 
>> video work with Canikon DSLRs.
>> As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
>> building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
>> I am sure there are others.
>> 
>> 
>> I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
>> investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax DSLR 
>> firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
>> I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing 
>> recorded videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are 
>> shooting.
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions here. 
>> I remember there were a few options I considered, but since the immediate 
>> need disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what would work.
>> I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a look at 
>> this thread:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:
>> 
>> On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> 
>>   You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
>>   cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for 
>> video in.
>> 
>> 
>> that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
>> know the market, but something like this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
>> suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device 
>> that broadcast a stream onto wifi .
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-14 Thread Christine Nielsen 
So... here's an update... while waiting on the cheapo display screen
that I ordered to arrive,  inspiration struck.  Connecting the camera
from the pc/av port to a personal dvd player transmits everything on
the lcd screen - including live view and image review - to that
screen.  The only glitch is that the aspect ratio isn't quite right,
working on that...

Anyhooo, an interesting development, I thought.  I used the pc/av
cable that came with the camera, and this dvd player, which I picked
up used:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DVP-FX820-8-Inch-Portable-Player/dp/B00139R1TA

If I can get the aspect ratio issue ironed out, it could be a
moderately OK solution... the screen is a good size, 8 inches, tilts,
flips & swivels,  and it has a battery pack and a car adapter.

-c





On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Thanks guys.
>
> I am currently leaning towards picking up a monitor that will do hdmi in...
>
> FWIW, I have in the past been able to use the hdmi connection from camera to 
> projector, enabling me to show students both live view and image review
>
> -c
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
> Christine,
>
> As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
> ability for video in, only video out.
>
> There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, and, 
> I suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used for the video 
> work with Canikon DSLRs.
> As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
> building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
> I am sure there are others.
>
>
> I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
> investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax DSLR 
> firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
> I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing 
> recorded videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are 
> shooting.
>
>
> Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions here. I 
> remember there were a few options I considered, but since the immediate need 
> disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what would work.
> I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a look at 
> this thread:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:
>
> On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:
>
>You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
>cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for 
> video in.
>
>
> that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
> know the market, but something like this:
>
>
> 
>
> but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
> suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device that 
> broadcast a stream onto wifi .
>
>
>
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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-13 Thread Christine Nielsen 
Thanks guys. 

I am currently leaning towards picking up a monitor that will do hdmi in...

FWIW, I have in the past been able to use the hdmi connection from camera to 
projector, enabling me to show students both live view and image review

-c


On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Christine,

As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
ability for video in, only video out.

There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, and, I 
suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used for the video work 
with Canikon DSLRs.
As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
I am sure there are others.


I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax DSLR 
firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing recorded 
videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are shooting.


Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions here. I 
remember there were a few options I considered, but since the immediate need 
disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what would work.
I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a look at this 
thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html

Hope this helps,

Igor



steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:

On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:

   You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
   cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for video 
in.


that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
know the market, but something like this:




but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device that 
broadcast a stream onto wifi .



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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-13 Thread Igor PDML-StR 


Christine,

As Steve wrote, all (most?) standard laptops and desktops would not have 
ability for video in, only video out.


There are small stand-alone LCD monitors (5"-10") that have HDMI inputs, 
and, I suspect might even work on batteries. I've seen those used 
for the video work with Canikon DSLRs.

As I pointed out in another thread, this Amazon store sells parts for
building rigs that would allow mounting such monitors to a camera:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index.html?&merchant=A22PRX6WI8E2K6
I am sure there are others.


I also wanted to add a caution: I've never looked or tried, but before 
investing in any additional equipment, I'd check if the current Pentax 
DSLR firmware allows _LIVE_  displaying via HDMI.
I know that some cameras that have HDMI connectors only allow playing 
recorded videos via them, say on a TV, not live display while you are 
shooting.



Finally, 2.5 years ago, I was asking for possible tethering solutions 
here. I remember there were a few options I considered, but since the 
immediate need disappered before I tried any of them, I don't know what 
would work.
I don't remember all the details at the moment, but you can take a 
look at this thread:

 https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg638081.html

Hope this helps,

Igor



 steve harley Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:25:56 -0700 wrote:

On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:

You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI
cable. I know it works for video out, I don't know if it will work for 
video in.



that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i 
don't know the market, but something like this:





but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device 
that broadcast a stream onto wifi .




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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-12 Thread steve harley 

On 2015-04-12 20:32 , Stanley Halpin wrote:

You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI 
cable. I know it works for video out, I don’t know if it will work for video in.


that won't work; Christine would need an HDMI video capture device; i don't 
know the market, but something like this:




but since she has a pre-Thunderbolt Mac, she also doesn't have USB 3 and i 
suspect USB 2 is not fast enough to keep up; maybe if you found a device 
that broadcast a stream onto wifi …



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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-12 Thread Stanley Halpin 
You can buy a dongle that allows your video I/O port to attach to an HDMI 
cable. I know it works for video out, I don’t know if it will work for video in.

stan

On Apr 12, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> ...aaand my macbook pro (no thunderbolt, it's older) won't do HDMI in.
> Just out.  So, no way to push the live view or image review to laptop
> via HDMI.  In the past, I've done HDMI from camera to projector, in a
> class scenario, so I guess that's why I was thinking that would be
> easy-peasy.  Unless anyone has found a work-around for this?  Seems
> unlikely form the little research I've done...
> 
> So, time out while I consider which purchase to make:
> - HDMI monitor?
> - laptop, HDMI in enabled
> - camera, that can legit tether
> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> -c
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Christine Nielsen  
> wrote:
>> Thanks very much, Paul.  It does make sense, and is very helpful.
>> 
>> I'm starting to think that since I don't need to transfer files elsewhere 
>> immediately, I really just need more real estate for viewing images - 
>> shooting interiors is killing me, so many details! - that maybe all I need 
>> is the HDMI connection... I'd rather have the camera controls & wireless 
>> too, but at least this way I'd get live view & image review with histogram, 
>> etc...
>> 
>> All good food for thought, though. Thanks again!
>> -c
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Paul  wrote:
>> 
>> Christine -
>> 
>> I have a couple of the Eye-Fi Pro series cards.  I use the Pro rather than 
>> the Mobi in the event I want to transfer RAW files from the card to either 
>> my iPad or computer.  Transferring RAW files however would be a last resort 
>> as it's a slo-o-o-o-w process.
>> 
>> OTOH, I have my camera (a K-5)set to record RAW+JPG and the Eye-Fi cards set 
>> to transfer JPGs only.  The JPGs generated by the camera are the smallest 
>> file size and lowest quality compression, but still give me decent web-sized 
>> images on the iPad. They transfer reasonably quickly and the client gets to 
>> review the images on a screen larger than 3 inches.
>> 
>> Eye-Fi calls transferring to a tablet or phone "Direct Mode".  If you have 
>> the card set up to transfer to either a network computer or a tablet/phone, 
>> it defaults to the known network and only goes to direct mode if there is no 
>> known network available.  I only want the transfers to go to my iPad whether 
>> I'm in range of my network or not, so all I have set up is the direct mode.  
>> An alternative setup for venues outside of a studio would be to take a 
>> laptop connected to a wireless router to an event to set up your own network 
>> and use the eye-fi card to transfer to that.  That may work better than the 
>> direct mode to a tablet but is somewhat more cumbersome.
>> 
>> In direct mode, when the card goes to sleep the tablet loses the connection 
>> so when you wake the camera/card back up you need to re-establish the 
>> connection on the tablet.  There is some adjustment to how long the card's 
>> wi-fi remains active after the last image is transferred but that uses more 
>> from the camera battery so it's a balancing act as to how long you want the 
>> card's wi-fi to run vs battery life.
>> 
>> Uf-da...does that make any sense?  HTH
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/10/2015 10:41 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>> hello all,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone had any luck with various tethering & tethering-like solutions?
>>> 
>>> I'd like to get live view, camera controls (aperture, ss, iso, remote
>>> shutter), image review w/ histogram, ipad app...
>>> 
>>> What I think I understand so far...
>>> 
>>> Eye-fi card?
>>> + image review...
>>> + combined with an HDMI out, I could get the live view to laptop...
>>> - but no camera controls...
>>> - and not wireless w HDMI out...
>>> - does this get sketchy on location, depending on wifi connection?
>>> 
>>> Flu card? (don't think this is possible on the k-5ii... is it?)
>>> +live view on my iPad..
>>> +camera controls
>>> +image review
>>> -no view of histogram, or meter
>>> - I'd have to buy a k-3 to use it, yes?
>>> 
>>> PK tether?
>>> I know this has been the default workaround for the pentax tethering
>>> issue, but it always just looks... sketchy... to me.  Something about
>>> their website seems kinda half-baked.  Something about the "Use at
>>> Your Own Risk" in bold on the homepage... Anyone use & recommend?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now for the Bonus Tale of Woe yesterday I was shooting
>>> architecture interiors... Bracketing RAW images to combine later,
>>> mostly, but I wanted to try a few in-cam jpegs, just for kicks.  After
>>> a couple at various settings (HDR Standard, Strong 1, 2, etc), the
>>> camera basically seized up.  The lcd screen showed the progress bar,
>>> not progressing, with the usual "image processing" note.  I let it go
>>> for a while... 5-10 mins, but still nothing.  Supposed to be able to
>>> hit "menu" to cancel, but that didn't work.  Even tur

Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-12 Thread Christine Nielsen 
...aaand my macbook pro (no thunderbolt, it's older) won't do HDMI in.
Just out.  So, no way to push the live view or image review to laptop
via HDMI.  In the past, I've done HDMI from camera to projector, in a
class scenario, so I guess that's why I was thinking that would be
easy-peasy.  Unless anyone has found a work-around for this?  Seems
unlikely form the little research I've done...

So, time out while I consider which purchase to make:
- HDMI monitor?
- laptop, HDMI in enabled
- camera, that can legit tether

Hmmm.

-c

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Thanks very much, Paul.  It does make sense, and is very helpful.
>
> I'm starting to think that since I don't need to transfer files elsewhere 
> immediately, I really just need more real estate for viewing images - 
> shooting interiors is killing me, so many details! - that maybe all I need is 
> the HDMI connection... I'd rather have the camera controls & wireless too, 
> but at least this way I'd get live view & image review with histogram, etc...
>
> All good food for thought, though. Thanks again!
> -c
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Paul  wrote:
>
> Christine -
>
> I have a couple of the Eye-Fi Pro series cards.  I use the Pro rather than 
> the Mobi in the event I want to transfer RAW files from the card to either my 
> iPad or computer.  Transferring RAW files however would be a last resort as 
> it's a slo-o-o-o-w process.
>
> OTOH, I have my camera (a K-5)set to record RAW+JPG and the Eye-Fi cards set 
> to transfer JPGs only.  The JPGs generated by the camera are the smallest 
> file size and lowest quality compression, but still give me decent web-sized 
> images on the iPad. They transfer reasonably quickly and the client gets to 
> review the images on a screen larger than 3 inches.
>
> Eye-Fi calls transferring to a tablet or phone "Direct Mode".  If you have 
> the card set up to transfer to either a network computer or a tablet/phone, 
> it defaults to the known network and only goes to direct mode if there is no 
> known network available.  I only want the transfers to go to my iPad whether 
> I'm in range of my network or not, so all I have set up is the direct mode.  
> An alternative setup for venues outside of a studio would be to take a laptop 
> connected to a wireless router to an event to set up your own network and use 
> the eye-fi card to transfer to that.  That may work better than the direct 
> mode to a tablet but is somewhat more cumbersome.
>
> In direct mode, when the card goes to sleep the tablet loses the connection 
> so when you wake the camera/card back up you need to re-establish the 
> connection on the tablet.  There is some adjustment to how long the card's 
> wi-fi remains active after the last image is transferred but that uses more 
> from the camera battery so it's a balancing act as to how long you want the 
> card's wi-fi to run vs battery life.
>
> Uf-da...does that make any sense?  HTH
>
> -p
>
>
>
>> On 4/10/2015 10:41 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>> hello all,
>>
>> Has anyone had any luck with various tethering & tethering-like solutions?
>>
>> I'd like to get live view, camera controls (aperture, ss, iso, remote
>> shutter), image review w/ histogram, ipad app...
>>
>> What I think I understand so far...
>>
>> Eye-fi card?
>> + image review...
>> + combined with an HDMI out, I could get the live view to laptop...
>> - but no camera controls...
>> - and not wireless w HDMI out...
>> - does this get sketchy on location, depending on wifi connection?
>>
>> Flu card? (don't think this is possible on the k-5ii... is it?)
>> +live view on my iPad..
>> +camera controls
>> +image review
>> -no view of histogram, or meter
>> - I'd have to buy a k-3 to use it, yes?
>>
>> PK tether?
>>  I know this has been the default workaround for the pentax tethering
>> issue, but it always just looks... sketchy... to me.  Something about
>> their website seems kinda half-baked.  Something about the "Use at
>> Your Own Risk" in bold on the homepage... Anyone use & recommend?
>>
>>
>> Now for the Bonus Tale of Woe yesterday I was shooting
>> architecture interiors... Bracketing RAW images to combine later,
>> mostly, but I wanted to try a few in-cam jpegs, just for kicks.  After
>> a couple at various settings (HDR Standard, Strong 1, 2, etc), the
>> camera basically seized up.  The lcd screen showed the progress bar,
>> not progressing, with the usual "image processing" note.  I let it go
>> for a while... 5-10 mins, but still nothing.  Supposed to be able to
>> hit "menu" to cancel, but that didn't work.  Even turning off the
>> camera didn't shut off the back screen.  Removed the (full) battery,
>> waited a few minutes, put it back in & resumed shooting.  The image I
>> was trying to create wasn't there, of course, but everything else
>> seemed fine.  I went back to shooting RAW... tried it again later, and
>> it happened again after a couple of HDR shots.  Maybe I'll send it i

Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-11 Thread Christine Nielsen 
Thanks very much, Paul.  It does make sense, and is very helpful.

I'm starting to think that since I don't need to transfer files elsewhere 
immediately, I really just need more real estate for viewing images - shooting 
interiors is killing me, so many details! - that maybe all I need is the HDMI 
connection... I'd rather have the camera controls & wireless too, but at least 
this way I'd get live view & image review with histogram, etc...

All good food for thought, though. Thanks again!
-c



On Apr 11, 2015, at 8:04 PM, Paul  wrote:

Christine -

I have a couple of the Eye-Fi Pro series cards.  I use the Pro rather than the 
Mobi in the event I want to transfer RAW files from the card to either my iPad 
or computer.  Transferring RAW files however would be a last resort as it's a 
slo-o-o-o-w process.

OTOH, I have my camera (a K-5)set to record RAW+JPG and the Eye-Fi cards set to 
transfer JPGs only.  The JPGs generated by the camera are the smallest file 
size and lowest quality compression, but still give me decent web-sized images 
on the iPad. They transfer reasonably quickly and the client gets to review the 
images on a screen larger than 3 inches.

Eye-Fi calls transferring to a tablet or phone "Direct Mode".  If you have the 
card set up to transfer to either a network computer or a tablet/phone, it 
defaults to the known network and only goes to direct mode if there is no known 
network available.  I only want the transfers to go to my iPad whether I'm in 
range of my network or not, so all I have set up is the direct mode.  An 
alternative setup for venues outside of a studio would be to take a laptop 
connected to a wireless router to an event to set up your own network and use 
the eye-fi card to transfer to that.  That may work better than the direct mode 
to a tablet but is somewhat more cumbersome.

In direct mode, when the card goes to sleep the tablet loses the connection so 
when you wake the camera/card back up you need to re-establish the connection 
on the tablet.  There is some adjustment to how long the card's wi-fi remains 
active after the last image is transferred but that uses more from the camera 
battery so it's a balancing act as to how long you want the card's wi-fi to run 
vs battery life.

Uf-da...does that make any sense?  HTH

-p



> On 4/10/2015 10:41 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
> hello all,
> 
> Has anyone had any luck with various tethering & tethering-like solutions?
> 
> I'd like to get live view, camera controls (aperture, ss, iso, remote
> shutter), image review w/ histogram, ipad app...
> 
> What I think I understand so far...
> 
> Eye-fi card?
> + image review...
> + combined with an HDMI out, I could get the live view to laptop...
> - but no camera controls...
> - and not wireless w HDMI out...
> - does this get sketchy on location, depending on wifi connection?
> 
> Flu card? (don't think this is possible on the k-5ii... is it?)
> +live view on my iPad..
> +camera controls
> +image review
> -no view of histogram, or meter
> - I'd have to buy a k-3 to use it, yes?
> 
> PK tether?
>  I know this has been the default workaround for the pentax tethering
> issue, but it always just looks... sketchy... to me.  Something about
> their website seems kinda half-baked.  Something about the "Use at
> Your Own Risk" in bold on the homepage... Anyone use & recommend?
> 
> 
> Now for the Bonus Tale of Woe yesterday I was shooting
> architecture interiors... Bracketing RAW images to combine later,
> mostly, but I wanted to try a few in-cam jpegs, just for kicks.  After
> a couple at various settings (HDR Standard, Strong 1, 2, etc), the
> camera basically seized up.  The lcd screen showed the progress bar,
> not progressing, with the usual "image processing" note.  I let it go
> for a while... 5-10 mins, but still nothing.  Supposed to be able to
> hit "menu" to cancel, but that didn't work.  Even turning off the
> camera didn't shut off the back screen.  Removed the (full) battery,
> waited a few minutes, put it back in & resumed shooting.  The image I
> was trying to create wasn't there, of course, but everything else
> seemed fine.  I went back to shooting RAW... tried it again later, and
> it happened again after a couple of HDR shots.  Maybe I'll send it in
> with my 16-50, which has -surprise! - recently given up on AF.
> 
> I seem to get cameras to produce the weirdest bugs... it's just one of
> my talents, I guess.
> 
> :)
> -c
> 

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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-11 Thread Paul 

Christine -

I have a couple of the Eye-Fi Pro series cards.  I use the Pro rather 
than the Mobi in the event I want to transfer RAW files from the card to 
either my iPad or computer.  Transferring RAW files however would be a 
last resort as it's a slo-o-o-o-w process.


OTOH, I have my camera (a K-5)set to record RAW+JPG and the Eye-Fi cards 
set to transfer JPGs only.  The JPGs generated by the camera are the 
smallest file size and lowest quality compression, but still give me 
decent web-sized images on the iPad. They transfer reasonably quickly 
and the client gets to review the images on a screen larger than 3 inches.


Eye-Fi calls transferring to a tablet or phone "Direct Mode".  If you 
have the card set up to transfer to either a network computer or a 
tablet/phone, it defaults to the known network and only goes to direct 
mode if there is no known network available.  I only want the transfers 
to go to my iPad whether I'm in range of my network or not, so all I 
have set up is the direct mode.  An alternative setup for venues outside 
of a studio would be to take a laptop connected to a wireless router to 
an event to set up your own network and use the eye-fi card to transfer 
to that.  That may work better than the direct mode to a tablet but is 
somewhat more cumbersome.


In direct mode, when the card goes to sleep the tablet loses the 
connection so when you wake the camera/card back up you need to 
re-establish the connection on the tablet.  There is some adjustment to 
how long the card's wi-fi remains active after the last image is 
transferred but that uses more from the camera battery so it's a 
balancing act as to how long you want the card's wi-fi to run vs battery 
life.


Uf-da...does that make any sense?  HTH

-p



On 4/10/2015 10:41 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

hello all,

Has anyone had any luck with various tethering & tethering-like solutions?

I'd like to get live view, camera controls (aperture, ss, iso, remote
shutter), image review w/ histogram, ipad app...

What I think I understand so far...

Eye-fi card?
+ image review...
+ combined with an HDMI out, I could get the live view to laptop...
- but no camera controls...
- and not wireless w HDMI out...
- does this get sketchy on location, depending on wifi connection?

Flu card? (don't think this is possible on the k-5ii... is it?)
+live view on my iPad..
+camera controls
+image review
-no view of histogram, or meter
- I'd have to buy a k-3 to use it, yes?

PK tether?
  I know this has been the default workaround for the pentax tethering
issue, but it always just looks... sketchy... to me.  Something about
their website seems kinda half-baked.  Something about the "Use at
Your Own Risk" in bold on the homepage... Anyone use & recommend?


Now for the Bonus Tale of Woe yesterday I was shooting
architecture interiors... Bracketing RAW images to combine later,
mostly, but I wanted to try a few in-cam jpegs, just for kicks.  After
a couple at various settings (HDR Standard, Strong 1, 2, etc), the
camera basically seized up.  The lcd screen showed the progress bar,
not progressing, with the usual "image processing" note.  I let it go
for a while... 5-10 mins, but still nothing.  Supposed to be able to
hit "menu" to cancel, but that didn't work.  Even turning off the
camera didn't shut off the back screen.  Removed the (full) battery,
waited a few minutes, put it back in & resumed shooting.  The image I
was trying to create wasn't there, of course, but everything else
seemed fine.  I went back to shooting RAW... tried it again later, and
it happened again after a couple of HDR shots.  Maybe I'll send it in
with my 16-50, which has -surprise! - recently given up on AF.

I seem to get cameras to produce the weirdest bugs... it's just one of
my talents, I guess.

:)
-c



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Re: Anybody tethering a k-5ii? Plus, camera seizure bonus tale.

2015-04-10 Thread Christine Nielsen 
You might even call it a "gift". 

This may be why I have little confidence in tethering software that comes with 
a "use at own risk" warning...


On Apr 10, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Yes, a special talent!

> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Christine Nielsen  
> wrote:
> hello all,
> 
> Has anyone had any luck with various tethering & tethering-like solutions?
> 
> I'd like to get live view, camera controls (aperture, ss, iso, remote
> shutter), image review w/ histogram, ipad app...
> 
> What I think I understand so far...
> 
> Eye-fi card?
> + image review...
> + combined with an HDMI out, I could get the live view to laptop...
> - but no camera controls...
> - and not wireless w HDMI out...
> - does this get sketchy on location, depending on wifi connection?
> 
> Flu card? (don't think this is possible on the k-5ii... is it?)
> +live view on my iPad..
> +camera controls
> +image review
> -no view of histogram, or meter
> - I'd have to buy a k-3 to use it, yes?
> 
> PK tether?
> I know this has been the default workaround for the pentax tethering
> issue, but it always just looks... sketchy... to me.  Something about
> their website seems kinda half-baked.  Something about the "Use at
> Your Own Risk" in bold on the homepage... Anyone use & recommend?
> 
> 
> Now for the Bonus Tale of Woe yesterday I was shooting
> architecture interiors... Bracketing RAW images to combine later,
> mostly, but I wanted to try a few in-cam jpegs, just for kicks.  After
> a couple at various settings (HDR Standard, Strong 1, 2, etc), the
> camera basically seized up.  The lcd screen showed the progress bar,
> not progressing, with the usual "image processing" note.  I let it go
> for a while... 5-10 mins, but still nothing.  Supposed to be able to
> hit "menu" to cancel, but that didn't work.  Even turning off the
> camera didn't shut off the back screen.  Removed the (full) battery,
> waited a few minutes, put it back in & resumed shooting.  The image I
> was trying to create wasn't there, of course, but everything else
> seemed fine.  I went back to shooting RAW... tried it again later, and
> it happened again after a couple of HDR shots.  Maybe I'll send it in
> with my 16-50, which has -surprise! - recently given up on AF.
> 
> I seem to get cameras to produce the weirdest bugs... it's just one of
> my talents, I guess.
> 
> :)
> -c
> 
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