RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
Both 80's vintage CD players I bought new died early deaths. One was a 1984 Sony and the other was a 1988 Magnavox. Since prices were falling so fast in the 80s I replaced them both with new units rather than pay for repairs. I then bought a Carver in 1991 but even it acts up once in a while now. I rarely listen to CDs anymore as I am a vinyl freak now. LPs sound better especailly on my $5k turntable which will probably last me a lifetime as its just a simple AC motor and a real heavy platter. JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > >> alternatively, I bought a CD player for £100 in 1985. It still works as >> new today. > >You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that >functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years and this includes the top players >from the developers of the medium Philips/Marantz and Sony. Very true. My 1985 Meridian MCD just died about two months ago. I couldn't be bothered replacing the laser pickup even though I have the service manual (I doubt the part is acailable, actually). But the CD/DVD player we bought to replace it cost half the price (*without* taking inflation into account!) and sounds so much better it's startling. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
On 11 Jan 2002 at 10:52, John Coyle wrote: > Have to add my 1989-vintage Marantz CD player to that list Rob! Hi John, You wouldn't want to know how many of those things I have repaired/written off :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Have to add my 1989-vintage Marantz CD player to that list Rob! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Friday, January 11, 2002 9:35 AM, Rob Studdert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > > > alternatively, I bought a CD player for ?100 in 1985. It still works as > > new today. > > You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that > functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years and this includes the top players > > from the developers of the medium Philips/Marantz and Sony. > > Cheers, > > Rob Studdert - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
On 10 Jan 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > alternatively, I bought a CD player for £100 in 1985. It still works as > new today. You're very very lucky, there aren't many CD players of that era that functioned flawlessly for more than 5 years and this includes the top players from the developers of the medium Philips/Marantz and Sony. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
I learned in selling cameras and electronics that the biggest reason people don't make warranty (and extended warranty/service contract) claims, is that they don't realize they are covered and/or don't have the paperwork proving they are covered. I'm one of those few people who buys extended warranties and regularly avails myself of enough service to more than justify the cost. Most recently, I've had a $250 VCR and a $500 mini-component hi-fi replaced with brand new, and far superior, models. So much stuff is built like junk today and unfortunately it can't be trusted. Rob Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:06:39 -0800 From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses I'd like to thank everyone who jumped into this thread last week and mentioned that Tamron has a six year warranty on their lenses. My friend double-checked, found his paperwork, and sent the lens in for a free repair under the warranty, saving a bunch of money as well as a lot of time and aggravation looking for another lens. Thanks! - -- Shel Belinkoff _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
I'd like to thank everyone who jumped into this thread last week and mentioned that Tamron has a six year warranty on their lenses. My friend double-checked, found his paperwork, and sent the lens in for a free repair under the warranty, saving a bunch of money as well as a lot of time and aggravation looking for another lens. Thanks! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
43mm zoom, so that means it zooms from 43mm to 43mm, right ;) --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my > 43mm if he's so > inclined. You're probably right about the > quality difference. > Thanks! > > Clive Williams wrote: Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
>- --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Brendan can tell you about the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4. > > He bought one (from > > me) against my recommendation...and whaddaya think > > about it, Brendan? :) > > What a salesman! "No sir, you don't want to buy that lens, it's crap" "Okay, I'll take two" Can you imagine what it would be like if you were _trying_ to make a sale! (please don't tell me I don't want to buy a 6x7 75 f2.8 AL) Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
I have a 2nd gen. Tamron 28-200 in mint condition I'll sell him for $200 plus shipping that includes the Tamron close-up lens and a filter or a Tamron 28-105 in the same condition for $125. I don't use my Pentax AF gear anymore and I'd like to give them good homes before I decide to stick them on eBay. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses We've had a Tamron 28-300 for two years. Works perfectly, never a problem and produces very nice results. Probably just the luck of the draw. He doesn't go out and take pictures of electrical storms does he? :-) I have a Pentax 28-80 AF, like brand new, that I'm trying to sell for $45. I've never critiqued it as it was only used for about two rolls of film before buying the longer zoom. It's a lens. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses > A friend of mine, heeding advice from this list, purchased a ZX-7 a > little more than a year ago, and grabbed a Tamron zoom (28~200 maybe - > don't recall right now) to use primarily for family snaps and a trip > that he and his wife took last year. > > The lens is toast. It doesn't work and he's been told that the > "electronics" are fried, and that it'll cost $220.00 to repair. Now, > frankly, I don't give a rat's ass why the lens failed, or whether or not > it can be repaired, or if the price is reasonable, or even if the lens > doesn't have electronics. It just frosts me that the enjoyment of his > recent trip to Mexico was lessened by the lens breaking in some > fashion. He, and his wife, are very disappointed. Sheesh! all he > wanted was a simple lens for a simple camera. > > Yeah, I know that things break, but the truth is, a lens should last > longer than a year, and not cost a week's pay to repair. > > Good. Now that that's off my chest, what's a good replacement lens? > Build quality is important, optical quality commensurate with family > snaps and occasional 8x10, color print use. Cole's like me - he likes > to keep things a long time. You should see his old Spotmatic and Super > Tak 50/1.4 - sharp, clean, and working perfectly. > > So, what does the list suggest for a quality consumer lens? > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
It's crap, crap, crap, the extra stop isn't worth it at all, but I did get it real cheap :) --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 03:19 AM, Flavio > Minelli wrote: > > > Did you ever wonder why there are > > so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? That one > is real crap and the > > fast (relativeley) aperture is just bait... > > I totally agree. My SMC-M 28mm f2.8 (which is the > worst lens I own in > my estimation) easily outperforms it. In fact, the > only lens that I've > used that I would consider worse than it at 28mm is > the Pentax 28-200 > (though we might have had a bad sample -- when I was > working at Sterling > we ended up sending the one we had in the store back > to Pentax after > doing a lens test). > > Brendan can tell you about the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4. > He bought one (from > me) against my recommendation...and whaddaya think > about it, Brendan? :) > __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
My friend wants a zoom. He doesn't want to mess around with changing lenses. He's not interested in "image quality" beyond snap shots and an occasional 8x10. He's not interested in building a "kit" and carrying around a bunch of lenses, ot trying to decide which to take with him. However, I'd like him to try a couple of good primes, like the 43mm Ltd, which he may want to use for special occasions. In that case I'd loan him mine. I know he's not going to spend the money required to buy it. He's just not interested in that sort of thing ... yet. Clive Williams wrote: > > >He wants a zoom for travel. > > I used to think I wanted a zoom for travel. That was until I > rediscovered the pleasure of primes. [Let's veer OT: why are they > called 'primes' anyway?] Now, my M24-35 seldom strays off 24, my > F70-210 is pretty well fixed at 210 and the FA28-70 generally stays at > home. A good travelling lens is one that will go in a jacket pocket - I > once made a trip with just the M24-35 and the FA100/3.5: one on the > camera, one about my person. Much more comfortable than trying to look > inconspicuous with a bulky, ill-balanced uber-zoom slung round my neck. > Got some pleasing results too, although these days the 43 Limited would > have to come along as well. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
>He wants a zoom for travel. I used to think I wanted a zoom for travel. That was until I rediscovered the pleasure of primes. [Let's veer OT: why are they called 'primes' anyway?] Now, my M24-35 seldom strays off 24, my F70-210 is pretty well fixed at 210 and the FA28-70 generally stays at home. A good travelling lens is one that will go in a jacket pocket - I once made a trip with just the M24-35 and the FA100/3.5: one on the camera, one about my person. Much more comfortable than trying to look inconspicuous with a bulky, ill-balanced uber-zoom slung round my neck. Got some pleasing results too, although these days the 43 Limited would have to come along as well. Just my unfocused thoughts and prejudices (and some displacement activity when I ought to be finishing my tax return.) Anyone else doubt the conventional "travel=zoom" wisdom? Clive. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 03:19 AM, Flavio Minelli wrote: > Did you ever wonder why there are > so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? That one is real crap and the > fast (relativeley) aperture is just bait... I totally agree. My SMC-M 28mm f2.8 (which is the worst lens I own in my estimation) easily outperforms it. In fact, the only lens that I've used that I would consider worse than it at 28mm is the Pentax 28-200 (though we might have had a bad sample -- when I was working at Sterling we ended up sending the one we had in the store back to Pentax after doing a lens test). Brendan can tell you about the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4. He bought one (from me) against my recommendation...and whaddaya think about it, Brendan? :) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
He wants a zoom for travel. He can always use my 43mm if he's so inclined. You're probably right about the quality difference. Thanks! Clive Williams wrote: > If he likes quality and wants something that'll last, he needs a 43 > Limited. For Family pictures, which tend to have more than one person > in anyway, it's a pretty comfortable length - I seldom use anything else > for my people pictures these days - and it feels so good that the more I > use it, the more I WANT to use it! Expensive, true, but not when you > consider how many Tamkigmas he might get through in its lifetime. > If his budget won't stretch that far, either of the FA 50s ought to do > almost as well. I'm sure you of all people can sell him the idea of > Real Lenses! (g) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I've had excellent results with the Sigma 28-105 f2.8-4 on a ZX-7 body...A real good cosmetic match too...Super sharp at 70mm and just a tad soft at 105mm so nice for portraits. Pop Photog test in Jan. 98 issue I can mail you a copy. Got mine thru SMILE PHOTO for $179.00 + 15.00 S/H and well worth it.. Regards, Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Auto wipe was thrown in to see if the message got read to the end... :-) ppro > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses > > > > Ho Paul, > > Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple > enough for his wife to use. > > He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of > mine some time, so fixed-lens P&S cameras are out. He's happy with the > ZX-7. What's "auto wipe"? > > "Paul M. Provencher" wrote: > > > > If he has a Spotmatic, why not go buy a > > decent used SMCT Zoom 85~210? Hell, it > > would cost not much more than (if that) the cost of > > the repair. And forget the plastic crap. > > > > Or (blasphemy) go find a nice Canon Sure Shot Zoom > > - I hate to admit it but my wife gets tack sharp > > images properly exposed and focused every stinking > > time. Plenty of Zoom flexibility, and no need to > > focus (it's auto focus, auto load, auto flash, auto wipe) > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Ho Paul, > > Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple > enough for his wife to use. > > He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of > mine some time, so fixed-lens P&S cameras are out. He's happy with the > ZX-7. What's "auto wipe"? > ... Hello Shel, I can vouch for the Tokina 28-105 3.5/4.5. A couple years ago was the best third party 28-105 you could get. It is out of production by now but you can still find it new here and there. It's not easy to find used, probably because it's a keeper. Did you ever wonder why there are so many used Sigma 28-105/2.8 for sale? That one is real crap and the fast (relativeley) aperture is just bait... Is an heavy and rather big black lens, though, and I don't know if it would fit a ZX-7 nicely, if aesthetics are concerned. I wouldn't say any 28-200 lens would be really acceptable in quality and sturdiness but it's up to the person who uses it to judge. HTH, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Ho Paul, Because he wants an autofocus camera that's small enough and simple enough for his wife to use. He does want interchangeable lenses, as he might want to borrow some of mine some time, so fixed-lens P&S cameras are out. He's happy with the ZX-7. What's "auto wipe"? "Paul M. Provencher" wrote: > > If he has a Spotmatic, why not go buy a > decent used SMCT Zoom 85~210? Hell, it > would cost not much more than (if that) the cost of > the repair. And forget the plastic crap. > > Or (blasphemy) go find a nice Canon Sure Shot Zoom > - I hate to admit it but my wife gets tack sharp > images properly exposed and focused every stinking > time. Plenty of Zoom flexibility, and no need to > focus (it's auto focus, auto load, auto flash, auto wipe) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
If he has a Spotmatic, why not go buy a decent used SMCT Zoom 85~210? Hell, it would cost not much more than (if that) the cost of the repair. And forget the plastic crap. Or (blasphemy) go find a nice Canon Sure Shot Zoom - I hate to admit it but my wife gets tack sharp images properly exposed and focused every stinking time. Plenty of Zoom flexibility, and no need to focus (it's auto focus, auto load, auto flash, auto wipe) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:17 PM > To: Pentax List > Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses > > > > A friend of mine, heeding advice from this list, purchased a ZX-7 a > little more than a year ago, and grabbed a Tamron zoom (28~200 maybe - > don't recall right now) to use primarily for family snaps and a trip > that he and his wife took last year. > > The lens is toast. It doesn't work and he's been told that the > "electronics" are fried, and that it'll cost $220.00 to repair. Now, > frankly, I don't give a rat's ass why the lens failed, or whether or not > it can be repaired, or if the price is reasonable, or even if the lens > doesn't have electronics. It just frosts me that the enjoyment of his > recent trip to Mexico was lessened by the lens breaking in some > fashion. He, and his wife, are very disappointed. Sheesh! all he > wanted was a simple lens for a simple camera. > > Yeah, I know that things break, but the truth is, a lens should last > longer than a year, and not cost a week's pay to repair. > > Good. Now that that's off my chest, what's a good replacement lens? > Build quality is important, optical quality commensurate with family > snaps and occasional 8x10, color print use. Cole's like me - he likes > to keep things a long time. You should see his old Spotmatic and Super > Tak 50/1.4 - sharp, clean, and working perfectly. > > So, what does the list suggest for a quality consumer lens? > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
What kind of electronics are in these lenses? aimcompute wrote: > He doesn't go out and take pictures > of electrical storms does he? :-) -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
We've had a Tamron 28-300 for two years. Works perfectly, never a problem and produces very nice results. Probably just the luck of the draw. He doesn't go out and take pictures of electrical storms does he? :-) I have a Pentax 28-80 AF, like brand new, that I'm trying to sell for $45. I've never critiqued it as it was only used for about two rolls of film before buying the longer zoom. It's a lens. Tom C. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses > A friend of mine, heeding advice from this list, purchased a ZX-7 a > little more than a year ago, and grabbed a Tamron zoom (28~200 maybe - > don't recall right now) to use primarily for family snaps and a trip > that he and his wife took last year. > > The lens is toast. It doesn't work and he's been told that the > "electronics" are fried, and that it'll cost $220.00 to repair. Now, > frankly, I don't give a rat's ass why the lens failed, or whether or not > it can be repaired, or if the price is reasonable, or even if the lens > doesn't have electronics. It just frosts me that the enjoyment of his > recent trip to Mexico was lessened by the lens breaking in some > fashion. He, and his wife, are very disappointed. Sheesh! all he > wanted was a simple lens for a simple camera. > > Yeah, I know that things break, but the truth is, a lens should last > longer than a year, and not cost a week's pay to repair. > > Good. Now that that's off my chest, what's a good replacement lens? > Build quality is important, optical quality commensurate with family > snaps and occasional 8x10, color print use. Cole's like me - he likes > to keep things a long time. You should see his old Spotmatic and Super > Tak 50/1.4 - sharp, clean, and working perfectly. > > So, what does the list suggest for a quality consumer lens? > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cheap Crap Plastic Consumer Lenses
Shel, Every consumer Tokina that I have looked at are heavier, metal bodied behomeths compared to the Tamron and Sigma and even many Pentax zooms. The Tamrons being fairly light (I have two for my wife and daughter, are starting to mechanically fall apart) balance well on the light, Pentax bodies, but over the years, the Tokinas have been built like tanks. Their website is www.thkphoto.com. They have a 24-200 zoom they he might find interesting. Hope this helps. Bruce Dayton Friday, January 04, 2002, 3:17:04 PM, you wrote: SB> A friend of mine, heeding advice from this list, purchased a ZX-7 a SB> little more than a year ago, and grabbed a Tamron zoom (28~200 maybe - SB> don't recall right now) to use primarily for family snaps and a trip SB> that he and his wife took last year. SB> The lens is toast. It doesn't work and he's been told that the SB> "electronics" are fried, and that it'll cost $220.00 to repair. Now, SB> frankly, I don't give a rat's ass why the lens failed, or whether or not SB> it can be repaired, or if the price is reasonable, or even if the lens SB> doesn't have electronics. It just frosts me that the enjoyment of his SB> recent trip to Mexico was lessened by the lens breaking in some SB> fashion. He, and his wife, are very disappointed. Sheesh! all he SB> wanted was a simple lens for a simple camera. SB> Yeah, I know that things break, but the truth is, a lens should last SB> longer than a year, and not cost a week's pay to repair. SB> Good. Now that that's off my chest, what's a good replacement lens? SB> Build quality is important, optical quality commensurate with family SB> snaps and occasional 8x10, color print use. Cole's like me - he likes SB> to keep things a long time. You should see his old Spotmatic and Super SB> Tak 50/1.4 - sharp, clean, and working perfectly. SB> So, what does the list suggest for a quality consumer lens? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
