Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On Aug 14, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Christian wrote: On 8/12/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 Canberra on the other hand. I thought you had monkeys in Canberra. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
There are monkeys everywhere, yet still no works of Shakespeare. David Mann wrote: On Aug 14, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Christian wrote: On 8/12/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 Canberra on the other hand. I thought you had monkeys in Canberra. - Dave -- cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
- Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF I thought you had monkeys in Canberra. Thats not a nice thing to say about them. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Joe, I seem to remember (may be wrong of course) that FA* where hand assembled. If I'm right, it might explain why Pentax won't assemble them all just for the fun of it. 2007/8/13, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Me (previously): The FA* 600 F4 and the FA* 300 F2.8 are both made to order. Presumably this means that Pentax Japan has the components stockpiled, and assembles them into a lens when a customer orders one. I assume these lenses will be available as long as the stock of components lasts. Whan that is gone, no more will be made. I'm quite certain that my A15/3.5 was made to order as well, although Pentax doesn't advertise it as being done that way. It took way longer to get than it would have, had it been a stock item, even warehoused in Japan. William Robb - I'm still trying to figure out the economics of this. Is assembly so much more expensive than making parts that it makes sense for Pentax to make the parts but not assemble them until someone orders a lens? Come to think of it, for most lenses Pentax must have parts stockpiled for repairs. Perhaps that is how it works. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 13/08/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, I seem to remember (may be wrong of course) that FA* where hand assembled. If I'm right, it might explain why Pentax won't assemble them all just for the fun of it. They must have one guy sitting in a back room waiting for individual long lens order to pop into his build one now pigeon-hole, but somehow I don't think so. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Arent all SLR lenses hand still hand assembled? They do not seem to be the type of thing where it would or could be cost effective to automate the entire lens assembly based on the low production numbers and incredible difficulty to entirely automate the assembly of the lenses. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:19 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF On 13/08/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, I seem to remember (may be wrong of course) that FA* where hand assembled. If I'm right, it might explain why Pentax won't assemble them all just for the fun of it. They must have one guy sitting in a back room waiting for individual long lens order to pop into his build one now pigeon-hole, but somehow I don't think so. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 13/08/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arent all SLR lenses hand still hand assembled? They do not seem to be the type of thing where it would or could be cost effective to automate the entire lens assembly based on the low production numbers and incredible difficulty to entirely automate the assembly of the lenses. I'm sure most are hand assembled at some point even on the most up to date production lines but not likely one at a time to order. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Yeah but the point of my reply was in response to someone's comment that the the all FA* lenses were hand assembled, not built one at a time to order. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:52 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF On 13/08/07, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arent all SLR lenses hand still hand assembled? They do not seem to be the type of thing where it would or could be cost effective to automate the entire lens assembly based on the low production numbers and incredible difficulty to entirely automate the assembly of the lenses. I'm sure most are hand assembled at some point even on the most up to date production lines but not likely one at a time to order. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On behalf of the entire Dutch population, I offer my sincere aplolgies. On Monday 13 August 2007 00:49, Bob W wrote: How very inconsiderate of the Dutch to put them where the wind is so strong. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of syb vis Sent: 12 August 2007 23:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF For your own safety: Better not! Check 4th paragraph on http://syarifbudhiman.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/kinderdijk/ Uhm, what? No kangaroos in Sydney's main streets? Darn, i'll have to cancel my vacation then... Syb 2007/8/13, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13/08/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Climb up a windmill ;-) And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 8/12/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/08/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Climb up a windmill ;-) And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 You should hear what people think we have in our street in Canada.:-) Dave -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
I agree. This time. But Frits, in the future please do not offer apologies on my behalf without me knowing it! :-) Syb 2007/8/13, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On behalf of the entire Dutch population, I offer my sincere aplolgies. On Monday 13 August 2007 00:49, Bob W wrote: How very inconsiderate of the Dutch to put them where the wind is so strong. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of syb vis Sent: 12 August 2007 23:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF For your own safety: Better not! Check 4th paragraph on http://syarifbudhiman.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/kinderdijk/ Uhm, what? No kangaroos in Sydney's main streets? Darn, i'll have to cancel my vacation then... Syb 2007/8/13, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13/08/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Climb up a windmill ;-) And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 8/12/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 Canberra on the other hand. I told my eldest daughter that we could see kangaroos hopping down the street when we visited Oz. I just didn't say in which city. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
From: Digital Image Studio On 13/08/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, I seem to remember (may be wrong of course) that FA* where hand assembled. If I'm right, it might explain why Pentax won't assemble them all just for the fun of it. They must have one guy sitting in a back room waiting for individual long lens order to pop into his build one now pigeon-hole, but somehow I don't think so. More likely the build one now pigeon-hole sits there until an order comes in. Then they pull the guy who used to build 'em away from his regular work just long enough for him to fulfill the order. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF The FA* 600 F4 and the FA* 300 F2.8 are both made to order. Presumably this means that Pentax Japan has the components stockpiled, and assembles them into a lens when a customer orders one. I assume these lenses will be available as long as the stock of components lasts. Whan that is gone, no more will be made. I'm quite certain that my A15/3.5 was made to order as well, although Pentax doesn't advertise it as being done that way. It took way longer to get than it would have, had it been a stock item, even warehoused in Japan. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Strange... In the description it says: This item is manufactured at the time of order. Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured. The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks. Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it? Jostein - The FA* 600 F4 and the FA* 300 F2.8 are both made to order. Presumably this means that Pentax Japan has the components stockpiled, and assembles them into a lens when a customer orders one. I assume these lenses will be available as long as the stock of components lasts. Whan that is gone, no more will be made. You could also order this lens through ordinary retailers or the national/regional Pentax distributors...for now. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I have the F* version. Same optics. It's a wonderful lens, produces marvelous images. Buy it and join our 600 Club. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
whh... not too fast. I am starting to think that i could better replace my smc tak300/4.0 by a sigma 300/2.8Autofocus. You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Syb 2007/8/12, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I have the F* version. Same optics. It's a wonderful lens, produces marvelous images. Buy it and join our 600 Club. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 13/08/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Climb up a windmill ;-) And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
For your own safety: Better not! Check 4th paragraph on http://syarifbudhiman.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/kinderdijk/ Uhm, what? No kangaroos in Sydney's main streets? Darn, i'll have to cancel my vacation then... Syb 2007/8/13, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13/08/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Climb up a windmill ;-) And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
How very inconsiderate of the Dutch to put them where the wind is so strong. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of syb vis Sent: 12 August 2007 23:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF For your own safety: Better not! Check 4th paragraph on http://syarifbudhiman.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/kinderdijk/ Uhm, what? No kangaroos in Sydney's main streets? Darn, i'll have to cancel my vacation then... Syb 2007/8/13, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13/08/07, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is the Netherlands. We cannot look far enough to motivate the purchase of a 600mm lens. A 300mm, on the other hand...? Climb up a windmill ;-) And no there aren't kangaroos hopping though the main streets of Sydney ;-0 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
The kangaroos have moved to the suburbs, where the tourists won't annoy them... Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of syb vis Uhm, what? No kangaroos in Sydney's main streets? Darn, i'll have to cancel my vacation then... Syb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 13/08/07, Paul Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kangaroos have moved to the suburbs, where the tourists won't annoy them... Not quite, I think the suburbs have moved to where the Roos are, annoying them ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Me (previously): The FA* 600 F4 and the FA* 300 F2.8 are both made to order. Presumably this means that Pentax Japan has the components stockpiled, and assembles them into a lens when a customer orders one. I assume these lenses will be available as long as the stock of components lasts. Whan that is gone, no more will be made. I'm quite certain that my A15/3.5 was made to order as well, although Pentax doesn't advertise it as being done that way. It took way longer to get than it would have, had it been a stock item, even warehoused in Japan. William Robb - I'm still trying to figure out the economics of this. Is assembly so much more expensive than making parts that it makes sense for Pentax to make the parts but not assemble them until someone orders a lens? Come to think of it, for most lenses Pentax must have parts stockpiled for repairs. Perhaps that is how it works. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
From: Paul Stenquist I get the address of my local camera store. No Costco. Paul I got a whole list - 3 or 4 Costcos, a couple of gun shops, an outdoor shop (a la REI, but not REI - who does sell Pentax binoculars), one of the two real camera stores in the area and several Wolf and Ritz Camera locations. The Wolf and Ritz were the most interesting, because I got a Wolf Camera at some address, and then a couple places down, there'll be a Ritz Camera listed as a completely separate dealer, but with the same address as the Wolf Camera. 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
On 2007-08-10, at 13:29, P. J. Alling wrote: The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens-- smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection-- Digital_35mm_telephoto Both FA* 600/4 and FA* 300/2.8 are listed as current on Japanese Pentax site, just 600/4 is available only by order: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/ Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
AlunFoto wrote: Strange... In the description it says: This item is manufactured at the time of order. Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured. The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks. Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it? Can't be bothered to check again right now, but last time I looked at the Pentax Japan website, I found a separate list of products that would be manufactured on order, and I believe this lens was on it. Along with a number of others that are generally thought to be discontinued... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Strange... In the description it says: This item is manufactured at the time of order. Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured. The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks. Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it? Jostein 2007/8/9, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? Cheers. Syb -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay for digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
From: syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/09 Thu PM 08:31:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I've used one at an airshow. It was very good. This is about 2/3rds of new price here but I still couldn't afford to buy one. Pix here: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/pdml/index.html - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
With price considered, I wouldn't stockpile 600mm/4 even if I thought there was a small market, if delivery time is 2 weeks like the auction text claims. OTOH, lenses like the SMC 500/4.5 were made to order for maybe a decade after it was officially denounced. Jostein 2007/8/10, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto or tinyurl for the wrapped http://tinyurl.com/otswy AlunFoto wrote: Strange... In the description it says: This item is manufactured at the time of order. Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured. The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks. Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it? Jostein 2007/8/9, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? Cheers. Syb -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay for digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto or tinyurl for the wrapped http://tinyurl.com/otswy AlunFoto wrote: Strange... In the description it says: This item is manufactured at the time of order. Winning item will be shipped as soon as the lens is manufactured. The delivery time is 2 ~ 3 weeks. Which is more likely; the seller not being entirely truthful, or that Pentax still makes this lens to Special Order? It's been gone from the catalogues for quite a while, hasn't it? Jostein 2007/8/9, syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? Cheers. Syb -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay for digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
From: P. J. Alling The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto or tinyurl for the wrapped http://tinyurl.com/otswy Yep. And if you enter your zip code, it'll give the address for the nearest Costco so you can buy one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
And how expensive will that be, then? S 2007/8/11, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: P. J. Alling The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto or tinyurl for the wrapped http://tinyurl.com/otswy Yep. And if you enter your zip code, it'll give the address for the nearest Costco so you can buy one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Syb Vis, The Netherlands. Since i bought my DSLR, i do no longer buy prints. Instead, i pay digital frames. Who said it would become cheaper? = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
The Costco in the area doesn't carry Pentax. I do get the address of a couple of Gun stores though. Make a hell of a sight for my Howitzer. John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto or tinyurl for the wrapped http://tinyurl.com/otswy Yep. And if you enter your zip code, it'll give the address for the nearest Costco so you can buy one. -- cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
I get the address of my local camera store. No Costco. Paul On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The Costco in the area doesn't carry Pentax. I do get the address of a couple of Gun stores though. Make a hell of a sight for my Howitzer. John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling The US branch of Pentax still considers it a current product. It could be old stock or the could still be making them. Each distributor is semi-independent and only supplies it's market with what they think will sell. http://www.pentaximaging.com/products/product_details/ camera_lens--smc_P-FA_600mm_F4.0_ED_%28IF%29/reqID--3068/ subsection--Digital_35mm_telephoto or tinyurl for the wrapped http://tinyurl.com/otswy Yep. And if you enter your zip code, it'll give the address for the nearest Costco so you can buy one. -- cognoscenti: Those who know cognesnotty: The stringy material that forms in the nasal passages of Those who know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
BTW - What's shown in the snap is the older F version. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF From: syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/08/09 Thu PM 08:31:02 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I've used one at an airshow. It was very good. This is about 2/3rds of new price here but I still couldn't afford to buy one. Pix here: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/pdml/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? I bought mine new several years ago have used it with both film digital bodies. What kind of images did you produce? Mainly wildlife, but I've also taken scenic's with it. It is a fabulous lens! Its also very heavy requires a sturdy tripod (I use a Gitzo 1548 CF). I use mine with a gimbal head (Kirk - King Cobra), which greatly aids in its use negates the weight effect for composition. Can't imagine using a lens this big heavy without a gimbal head. To use it in the field I utilize a backpack case (made by Kinesis) to haul it around. I have a number of images taken with the 600, posted on the Pentax Gallery - you can access the site query that lens to see some of the results. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: syb vis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? Cheers. Syb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
- Original Message - From: syb vis Subject: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I think that's the one Ken Waller has. It seems to work well for him. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
William Robb wrote: From: syb vis Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I think that's the one Ken Waller has. It seems to work well for him. True. Although I'm hard pressed to think of any lens that *doesn't* seem to work well for him... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF
I think that's the one Ken Waller has. It seems to work well for him. True. Although I'm hard pressed to think of any lens that *doesn't* seem to work well for him... Why Mark. I'm blushing. A high complement coming from you. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FA-SMCP 600/4 IF William Robb wrote: From: syb vis Browsing Ebay on my search for extremities, I found this thing. http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190137806062ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Storesrefitem=280134626351itemcount=4refwidgetloc=closed_view_itemrefwidgettype=osi_widget Did anyone of you ever have it mounted on your camera? What kind of images did you produce? I think that's the one Ken Waller has. It seems to work well for him. True. Although I'm hard pressed to think of any lens that *doesn't* seem to work well for him... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
