Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Or if your macro lens has a tripod foot & you are using an Arca swiss style mounting, you can get a long plate for the lens & use that as your adjustment mechanism Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021 Boris, All the macro lenses change focal lengths as you focus them. You can get around this with a bellows and rack on a tripod. You set the focal length/field of view you want, and then crank the whole lens/bellows/camera back & forth on the rack. It's clumsy, but allows a very precise framing. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, the whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move together. This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the lens is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when I focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a fascinating optic, although simple. In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy due to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-). It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower pictures, but you did not. The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. Yours seems to be in controlled environment ;-). Thanks! Boris Igor Roshchin wrote: Boris, Of the three shots, I like the first the most. I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF. In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers in particular) are in focus. By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries which illustrate what I mean. It is also a raspberry "flower": IMGP9428.jpg IMGP9503.jpg IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF, especially in the last two. As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason. And to complete the raspberry theme: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg (I posted this here 1.5 years ago) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Boris, Yes, I find that all macro lenses and macro filters decrease DOF. The higher the magnification, the shallower the DOF. (As Bob mentioned, - bellows is a solution, but I have never tried that myself.) I usually try to close down the aperture to enhance DOF. For many shots I am using F-DA 100/2.8 Macro, and sometimes even in a combination with a Pentax TC - following the idea mentioned by somebody most likely on PDML. Here are the links to the raspberry "flowers" shots. Sorry, that what happens when one is trying to multitask and the message is written over a course of several hours/days. :-) http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9428.jpg http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9503.jpg http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9527.jpg They all are done in a controlled environment, but DOF problem is the same. In your case, - it is just more complicated. (Upon a quick look, I didn't find any of the ones I took in the "wild" handy, - I didn't quite like them, hence I didn't bother to post them anywhere.) By the way, for some macro shots, I found Pedco UltraPod II to be quite useful: http://www.rei.com/product/777250 http://www.pedcopods.com/specsup2.htm It is inexpensive, light, and compact. It is not perfect, but helps: It is sturdy enough for *istDS, and I would expect it to provide reasonable stability even with a havier camera, e.g. K20D. Igor On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, the > whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move together. > This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the lens > is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when I > focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a fascinating > optic, although simple. > > In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy due > to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some > other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my > skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-). > > It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower > pictures, but you did not. > > The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. Yours > seems to be in controlled environment ;-). > > Thanks! > > Boris > > > > Igor Roshchin wrote: >> >> Boris, >> >> Of the three shots, I like the first the most. >> >> I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits >> in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and >> what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots >> similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF. >> >> In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers >> in particular) are in focus. >> By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries >> which illustrate what I mean. >> It is also a raspberry "flower": >> IMGP9428.jpg >> IMGP9503.jpg >> IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF, >> especially in the >> last two. >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
I like them all in terms of composition and rendering, but I'd like more DOF in all as well. Extensive DOF in macros this tight calls for a tripod of course and a stop of somewhere approaching f22. Paul On Jun 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Thanks, Jack. jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Boris, Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. Raspberry: Only makes me a little hungry. Raspberry Flowers: Just doesn't work for me. Jack --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Boris Liberman wrote: From: Boris Liberman Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:44 AM Hi! Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this time. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html Be brutal and honest :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Boris, Maybe we can get Frank to pedal out and take some pictures of flower petals. :-) I understand about Galia learning photography step by step, but I would mention the faded petal. It isn't so much a photo thing as a nature, biological process, faded beauty thing. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Thanks Bob. > > All there were shot hand held. I had to dial up ISO 400 to ensure fast > enough shutter speed given the weather conditions. > > As for Galia's shot - I only ask Galia to look for what she thinks looks > beautiful. When I see that she has attained (achieved?) certain level, we > will move forward to other aspects of photography. > > Oh, by the way, you seem to have made similar mistake (pedal!) to that of > Jack. That's funny ;-). > > Thanks for your kind words > > Boris > > > > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> Boris, >> Nice job on the Raspberry flower. It is a pleasing composition and >> lots of detail is in focus. Hard to do! >> The second shot of the fruit itself is technically fine, but not so >> exciting. It does convey a sense of fullness of the berry. >> The best part of Galia's photo is how the two blossoms and the leaves >> to the right are in sharp focus. The 3rd blossom on the left is a >> distraction being out of focus. And tell her to look for blossoms >> that are new. The top blossom has a pedal that is fading at 2 >> o'clock. She has done a very nice job overall. >> Regards, Bob S. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Boris, All the macro lenses change focal lengths as you focus them. You can get around this with a bellows and rack on a tripod. You set the focal length/field of view you want, and then crank the whole lens/bellows/camera back & forth on the rack. It's clumsy, but allows a very precise framing. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, the > whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move together. > This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the lens > is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when I > focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a fascinating > optic, although simple. > > In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy due > to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some > other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my > skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-). > > It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower > pictures, but you did not. > > The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. Yours > seems to be in controlled environment ;-). > > Thanks! > > Boris > > > > Igor Roshchin wrote: >> >> Boris, >> >> Of the three shots, I like the first the most. >> >> I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits >> in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and >> what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots >> similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF. >> >> In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers >> in particular) are in focus. >> By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries >> which illustrate what I mean. >> It is also a raspberry "flower": >> IMGP9428.jpg >> IMGP9503.jpg >> IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF, >> especially in the >> last two. >> >> >> As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers >> don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason. >> >> And to complete the raspberry theme: >> http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg >> (I posted this here 1.5 years ago) >> >> >> Igor > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Igor, it is known fact that when focusing FA 100/3.5 and its siblings, the whole lens assembly is in motion. That is, all glass pieces move together. This is very interesting, though it seems that toward macro range the lens is changing its focal length. I am saying so because I observe that when I focus the field of view changes as well. FA 100/3.5 is surely a fascinating optic, although simple. In #1 I must admit that I was starting to feel every so slightly dizzy due to the very subtle wind. Also I am generally not all that steady as some other photographers ;-). But I should practice more both to improve my skills and to enhance my mind's stability ;-). It seems to me that you wanted to send some links to the number of flower pictures, but you did not. The reflection shot you posted is rather different than those of mine. Yours seems to be in controlled environment ;-). Thanks! Boris Igor Roshchin wrote: Boris, Of the three shots, I like the first the most. I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF. In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers in particular) are in focus. By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries which illustrate what I mean. It is also a raspberry "flower": IMGP9428.jpg IMGP9503.jpg IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF, especially in the last two. As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason. And to complete the raspberry theme: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg (I posted this here 1.5 years ago) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Thanks, Joe! 27...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Boris, I like this one, Joe http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k-kHHC9rZSk/Sipjkk0cgBI/Alo/FsgTD4a0u8g/s1600-h/IGP18445.jpg From: "Boris Liberman" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 8:44:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021 Hi! Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this time. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html Be brutal and honest :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Thanks Bob. All there were shot hand held. I had to dial up ISO 400 to ensure fast enough shutter speed given the weather conditions. As for Galia's shot - I only ask Galia to look for what she thinks looks beautiful. When I see that she has attained (achieved?) certain level, we will move forward to other aspects of photography. Oh, by the way, you seem to have made similar mistake (pedal!) to that of Jack. That's funny ;-). Thanks for your kind words Boris Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, Nice job on the Raspberry flower. It is a pleasing composition and lots of detail is in focus. Hard to do! The second shot of the fruit itself is technically fine, but not so exciting. It does convey a sense of fullness of the berry. The best part of Galia's photo is how the two blossoms and the leaves to the right are in sharp focus. The 3rd blossom on the left is a distraction being out of focus. And tell her to look for blossoms that are new. The top blossom has a pedal that is fading at 2 o'clock. She has done a very nice job overall. Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Interesting floser. I have never heard of it. I like the DOF chosen, and the placement of the brown bits on the stems. Dave On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another > PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this > time. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html > > Be brutal and honest :-). > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Methinks peddle is a valid English word therefore speller would let it slip through... Jack Davis wrote: Guess those things are "petals" huh? ...got to remember to spell check. :( Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Jack. jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Boris, Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. Raspberry: Only makes me a little hungry. Raspberry Flowers: Just doesn't work for me. Jack --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Boris Liberman wrote: From: Boris Liberman Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:44 AM Hi! Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this time. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html Be brutal and honest :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Boris, Of the three shots, I like the first the most. I've been experimenting with shooting various berries and fruits in the past few years, and I've been getting some similar shots, and what I concluded for myself that in most cases (especially in shots similar to your #1 and #2 by composition), I like seeing more DOF. In #1 I would've tried to make sure that [almost] all stamens (anthers in particular) are in focus. By association, I recalled a few shots of mine related to raspberries which illustrate what I mean. It is also a raspberry "flower": IMGP9428.jpg IMGP9503.jpg IMGP9527.jpg In these three, I also would like to see large DOF, especially in the last two. As for #3, - as in this one, I find that "frontal" shots of some flowers don't work for me. I discarded many of mine for this reason. And to complete the raspberry theme: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Raspberries/IMGP9655e.jpg (I posted this here 1.5 years ago) Igor PS. Jack, I suspect "those things" are not "petals" either. They are either stamens (stamina), or anthers: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stamen http://www.merriam-webster.com/art/dict/flower.htm :-) --- On Sat, 6/6/09, jdavisf8 at yahoo.com wrote: > Guess those things are "petals" huh? ...got to remember to spell check. > :( > > Jack > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, jdavisf8 at yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another > PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this > time. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html > > Be brutal and honest :-). > > Boris > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Hey Boris, I like this one, Joe http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k-kHHC9rZSk/Sipjkk0cgBI/Alo/FsgTD4a0u8g/s1600-h/IGP18445.jpg From: "Boris Liberman" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 8:44:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021 Hi! Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this time. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html Be brutal and honest :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021
Boris, Nice job on the Raspberry flower. It is a pleasing composition and lots of detail is in focus. Hard to do! The second shot of the fruit itself is technically fine, but not so exciting. It does convey a sense of fullness of the berry. The best part of Galia's photo is how the two blossoms and the leaves to the right are in sharp focus. The 3rd blossom on the left is a distraction being out of focus. And tell her to look for blossoms that are new. The top blossom has a pedal that is fading at 2 o'clock. She has done a very nice job overall. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk posting another > PESO. Later on I will post a short write up about the gear that I used this > time. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html > > Be brutal and honest :-). > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Guess those things are "petals" huh? ...got to remember to spell check. :( Jack --- On Sat, 6/6/09, jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: > From: jdavi...@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Galia and Boris PESO #021 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 6:32 AM > > Boris, > > Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. > > Raspberry: Only makes me a little hungry. > > Raspberry Flowers: Just doesn't work for me. > > Jack > > > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Boris Liberman > wrote: > > > From: Boris Liberman > > Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021 > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:44 AM > > Hi! > > > > Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd > risk > > posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short > write up > > about the gear that I used this time. > > > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html > > > > Be brutal and honest :-). > > > > Boris > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, Raspberry Flower: Appealing due to the peddle array. Raspberry: Only makes me a little hungry. Raspberry Flowers: Just doesn't work for me. Jack --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Boris Liberman wrote: > From: Boris Liberman > Subject: Galia and Boris PESO #021 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:44 AM > Hi! > > Though I am more than 1000 unread messages behind, I'd risk > posting another PESO. Later on I will post a short write up > about the gear that I used this time. > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/06/peso-2009-021.html > > Be brutal and honest :-). > > Boris > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.