Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Received about 6 blasts of that from my Dr a couple days ago. Happens
a coupe times a year.
He removed a patch of forehead skin
and had it biopsied this past week.
Found Basal Cell Carcinoma.
"Most common and least concerning"
per my Dr. and PLEASE, I don't want
to hear any different. Thanks!
J




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> On Aug 3, 2016, at 1:29 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I recommend liquid nitrogen under pressure.
> 
>> On 8/1/2016 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the 
>> K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
>> room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
>> soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror 
>> close-up.;)
>> 
>> Any one?
>> 
>> J
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[P.J. Alling]

I recommend liquid nitrogen under pressure.

On 8/1/2016 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote:


My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3.
I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
room..??
1/1=1/1200.
Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
soft. I read it
can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;)

Any one?

J

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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[John]

A friend of mine uses a set-up where he closes off the holes in the
feeder and has a couple of realistic looking silk flowers with hidden
tubes leading up through the stem. The bird actually feeds from the
tube, but the silk flower petals conceal it. A couple of additional
"leafy branches" add to the illusion.

He's also got it set up with the feeder out on the deck & shooting
through an open window so the birds don't see him as a threat. There's
no where for the birds to land while feeding, and because he's got the
"flowers" dialed in he can pre-focus precisely where the bird is going
to be when it goes for the "flower".

He hangs a canvas backdrop behind the feeder that's painted like out
of focus greenery, especially since it's far enough behind the feeder
that it's really out of focus.

He has another setup for other birds that consists of a dead branch he
can clamp to the deck railing. He drilled holes in the back side where
he can place bird seed & suet depending on what he's trying to attract.
Again, he's got the location where the bird has to be to get to the food
dialed in and he's sitting inside shooting through an open window so he
doesn't spook the birds.

On 8/2/2016 2:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-)
Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash
will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed
instead.

J
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Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM
Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

You gotta start somewhere Jack.

Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the
lighting situation.

A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project
the light from your flash.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
Subject: Hummer Freezing(?)





My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
feeders.
I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
the K-3.
I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
family room..??
1/1=1/1200.
Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
soft. I read it
can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
close-up.;)

Any one?

J

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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Actually, Bill. That's a pretty good average.

J

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Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:51:19 PM
Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

On 8/2/2016 8:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions, Bruce.
> I believe I'd need at least  6000 fps
> in order to stop the wings and I have
> a number of perched quietly feeding
> already. :)
> The 540 1/1=1200, so maybe 1/5+?
> I have frozen wings at a shutter speed of 6400.
> Thanks again!

Several years ago, I was visiting Tom C at his home in Idaho. His wife 
had what seemed like dozens of hummingbird feeders strewn about the 
outside of the house. When I arrived, the noise of them outside the door 
was really freaky, it was like running a gauntlet of locusts.
The morning I left, I was sitting having coffee with Tom amid these 
literally hundreds of Hummers when one chose to alight on my hand and 
stay for several seconds.
It was one of the most magical moments of my life.

I found that they are quite hard to photograph, I was using a K10 at the 
time, and out of dozens of exposures, I managed to get one that I was 
reasonably happy with.

bill


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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Bill]

On 8/2/2016 8:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions, Bruce.
I believe I'd need at least  6000 fps
in order to stop the wings and I have
a number of perched quietly feeding
already. :)
The 540 1/1=1200, so maybe 1/5+?
I have frozen wings at a shutter speed of 6400.
Thanks again!


Several years ago, I was visiting Tom C at his home in Idaho. His wife 
had what seemed like dozens of hummingbird feeders strewn about the 
outside of the house. When I arrived, the noise of them outside the door 
was really freaky, it was like running a gauntlet of locusts.
The morning I left, I was sitting having coffee with Tom amid these 
literally hundreds of Hummers when one chose to alight on my hand and 
stay for several seconds.

It was one of the most magical moments of my life.

I found that they are quite hard to photograph, I was using a K10 at the 
time, and out of dozens of exposures, I managed to get one that I was 
reasonably happy with.


bill


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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for the suggestions, Bruce.
I believe I'd need at least  6000 fps
in order to stop the wings and I have
a number of perched quietly feeding
already. :)
The 540 1/1=1200, so maybe 1/5+?
I have frozen wings at a shutter speed of 6400.
Thanks again!
J

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jack, the blip of light from a 540 at 1/64th power should easily
> freeze hummer wings, But I suspect you had enough ambient light to
> compete with your flash. You need to cut out the ambient so the flash
> is the sole source of illumination if you want to use the flash to
> freeze action.
> 
> Try shooting the same scene both with and without the flash added to
> see the effect. If you have the flash set up correctly the scene
> without the flash should be black or just about.
> 
> Also, the flash duration (t.1 time) is really short even at 1/2 or 1/4
> power on a 540 flash. I'd try shooting the birds with the flash at
> about 1/4 power and with the head zoomed to the narrowest beam. Then
> set the shutter for 1/180th sec (use X-sync), stop down the aperture,
> and even attach a neutral density filter if the exposure at the bird
> is still too high. This should eliminate the ambient light pretty
> nicely.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-)
>> Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash
>> will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed
>> instead.
>> 
>> J
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ken Waller" <kwal...@peoplepc.com>
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
>> 
>> You gotta start somewhere Jack.
>> 
>> Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the
>> lighting situation.
>> 
>> A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project
>> the light from your flash.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Hummer Freezing(?)
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
>>> feeders.
>>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
>>> the K-3.
>>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
>>> family room..??
>>> 1/1=1/1200.
>>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
>>> soft. I read it
>>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
>>> close-up.;)
>>> 
>>> Any one?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082
>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Bruce Walker]

Jack, the blip of light from a 540 at 1/64th power should easily
freeze hummer wings, But I suspect you had enough ambient light to
compete with your flash. You need to cut out the ambient so the flash
is the sole source of illumination if you want to use the flash to
freeze action.

Try shooting the same scene both with and without the flash added to
see the effect. If you have the flash set up correctly the scene
without the flash should be black or just about.

Also, the flash duration (t.1 time) is really short even at 1/2 or 1/4
power on a 540 flash. I'd try shooting the birds with the flash at
about 1/4 power and with the head zoomed to the narrowest beam. Then
set the shutter for 1/180th sec (use X-sync), stop down the aperture,
and even attach a neutral density filter if the exposure at the bird
is still too high. This should eliminate the ambient light pretty
nicely.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-)
> Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash
> will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed
> instead.
>
> J
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken Waller" <kwal...@peoplepc.com>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
>
> You gotta start somewhere Jack.
>
> Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the
> lighting situation.
>
> A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project
> the light from your flash.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
> Subject: Hummer Freezing(?)
>
>
>>
>>
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
>> feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
>> the K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
>> family room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
>> soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
>> close-up.;)
>>
>> Any one?
>>
>> J
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>>
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Yes, any shutter speed, above the native 180 per second with this
unit, requires the setting of the
available "High Speed Sink" feature.
I agree, Jostein that it would seem 
logical to expect the wing movement
to be somewhat slower in making an
abrupt turn.
J

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Jostein <p...@alunfoto.no> wrote:
> 
> The figure of eight is what I have read too. But I believe the wing tips move 
> slower at the sharp turns of the eight, so that there are certain wing 
> positions that allow longer shutter speeds.
> 
> When you do P-TTL, do you use Hi-speed flash mode? Probably a dumb question, 
> but I don't know the 540 flash (got a Metz unit myself).
> 
> Jostein
> 
> Den 01.08.2016 23.54, skrev Jack Davis:
>> Well caught in a nice setting, Jostein.
>> I understand that their wings do not ever stop while in flight, but instead, 
>> each does a
>> continuous figure eight. Seems likely to me.(?)
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jostein" <p...@alunfoto.no>
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 1:56:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
>> 
>> I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated
>> hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking
>> that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a
>> lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched
>> direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to
>> crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.
>> 
>> Here's what that looked like:
>> http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/
>> 
>> Jostein
>> 
>> 
>> Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
>>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the 
>>> K-3.
>>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
>>> room..??
>>> 1/1=1/1200.
>>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
>>> soft. I read it
>>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror 
>>> close-up.;)
>>> 
>>> Any one?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jostein]

The figure of eight is what I have read too. But I believe the wing tips 
move slower at the sharp turns of the eight, so that there are certain 
wing positions that allow longer shutter speeds.


When you do P-TTL, do you use Hi-speed flash mode? Probably a dumb 
question, but I don't know the 540 flash (got a Metz unit myself).


Jostein

Den 01.08.2016 23.54, skrev Jack Davis:

Well caught in a nice setting, Jostein.
I understand that their wings do not ever stop while in flight, but instead, 
each does a
continuous figure eight. Seems likely to me.(?)

J

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From: "Jostein" <p...@alunfoto.no>
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Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 1:56:55 PM
Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated
hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking
that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a
lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched
direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to
crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.

Here's what that looked like:
http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/

Jostein


Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:



My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3.
I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
room..??
1/1=1/1200.
Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
soft. I read it
can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;)

Any one?

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082





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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jostein]

Thank you for the kind words, Dan!
In this case I just wanted to illustrate the point about wing position. :-)
Jostein

Den 02.08.2016 05.10, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

Beautiful, Jostein.  I love that image!

Strong detail, and a crisp mage.  I really love the color in the
background,which harmonizes with the plumage.

The blossoms frame the bird well, and the curve of the lower branch adds a
lot of interest and draws the eye into the bird itself.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Jostein  wrote:


I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated
hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking
that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot
of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That
was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to
1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.

Here's what that looked like:
http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/

Jostein


Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:




My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
feeders.
I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
the K-3.
I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
family room..??
1/1=1/1200.
Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and
image soft. I read it
can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
close-up.;)

Any one?

J

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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-)
Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash
will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed
instead.

J
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From: "Ken Waller" <kwal...@peoplepc.com>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM
Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

You gotta start somewhere Jack.

Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the 
lighting situation.

A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project 
the light from your flash.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
Subject: Hummer Freezing(?)


>
>
> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird 
> feeders.
> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on 
> the K-3.
> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the 
> family room..??
> 1/1=1/1200.
> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
> soft. I read it
> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror 
> close-up.;)
>
> Any one?
>
> J
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Shame!  :-))
J

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On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>> That wing flap count must be "per second."
> 
> Correct Jack - I mistyped the info.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" <jdavi...@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
> 
> 
>> That wing flap count must be "per second."
>> Had to imagine a hummer smaller
>> than ours.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is 
>>> the only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan.
>>> No other bird is as tiny.
>>> Its the only bird able to fly backwards.
>>> The wings flap 50-60 time a minute.
>>> The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute.
>>> It breathes 250 time per minute.
>>> It weighs 2 to 3 grans.
>>> Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee.
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hummers are tough!
>>>> 
>>>> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a 
>>>> lot of meat on them.
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

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The wing count declines sharply after you freeze the little bugger.


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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

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That wing flap count must be "per second."


Correct Jack - I mistyped the info.

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Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)



That wing flap count must be "per second."
Had to imagine a hummer smaller
than ours.

J

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On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is 
the only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan.

No other bird is as tiny.
Its the only bird able to fly backwards.
The wings flap 50-60 time a minute.
The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute.
It breathes 250 time per minute.
It weighs 2 to 3 grans.
Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)




On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hummers are tough!


They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not 
a lot of meat on them.


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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Beautiful, Jostein.  I love that image!

Strong detail, and a crisp mage.  I really love the color in the
background,which harmonizes with the plumage.

The blossoms frame the bird well, and the curve of the lower branch adds a
lot of interest and draws the eye into the bird itself.

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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Jostein  wrote:

> I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated
> hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking
> that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot
> of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That
> was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to
> 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.
>
> Here's what that looked like:
> http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/
>
> Jostein
>
>
> Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:
>
>>
>>
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
>> feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
>> the K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
>> family room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and
>> image soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
>> close-up.;)
>>
>> Any one?
>>
>> J
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Bruce, thanks for the thoughtful
well considered suggestions and kind comments.
I'll, perhaps, get serious about 
Hummer shooting at some point and 
apply your suggestions
Much appreciated!!
J
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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Jack, I think your shots are pretty darned good for a first attempt.
> 
> I have no experience shooting hummers specifically, but I have seen
> the terrific results of folks who do while using strobes and flashes,
> and I know lighting in general. Based on that, if I were trying this,
> I'd get the flash as close to the feeder as I could and use a wireless
> trigger on the camera to fire it. Two flashes would be even better.
> 
> I'd try starting with bare flash, but I'd also be strongly tempted to
> make the light source larger than the hummer so it's not such a hard
> light. I'd use a silver reflector of some sort for efficiency.
> 
> I bet that a two-light setup -- a soft source at 45 degrees from the
> front and a hard source from the rear as a rim light to outline the
> bird and also shine through the translucent wings -- would be
> wonderful.
> 
> We only ever get about three hummer sightings per season at our
> feeder, or I'd try this myself.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the 
>> K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
>> room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
>> soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror 
>> close-up.;)
>> 
>> Any one?
>> 
>> J
>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Bruce Walker]

Jack, I think your shots are pretty darned good for a first attempt.

I have no experience shooting hummers specifically, but I have seen
the terrific results of folks who do while using strobes and flashes,
and I know lighting in general. Based on that, if I were trying this,
I'd get the flash as close to the feeder as I could and use a wireless
trigger on the camera to fire it. Two flashes would be even better.

I'd try starting with bare flash, but I'd also be strongly tempted to
make the light source larger than the hummer so it's not such a hard
light. I'd use a silver reflector of some sort for efficiency.

I bet that a two-light setup -- a soft source at 45 degrees from the
front and a hard source from the rear as a rim light to outline the
bird and also shine through the translucent wings -- would be
wonderful.

We only ever get about three hummer sightings per season at our
feeder, or I'd try this myself.



On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the 
> K-3.
> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
> room..??
> 1/1=1/1200.
> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
> soft. I read it
> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;)
>
> Any one?
>
> J
>
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

That wing flap count must be "per second." 
Had to imagine a hummer smaller
than ours.

J

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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> 
> According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is the 
> only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan.
> No other bird is as tiny.
> Its the only bird able to fly backwards.
> The wings flap 50-60 time a minute.
> The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute.
> It breathes 250 time per minute.
> It weighs 2 to 3 grans.
> Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
> 
> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hummers are tough!
>> 
>> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a 
>> lot of meat on them.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

All I'm doing at this point, Ken is 
considering flash vs shutter.
Thanks for suggestion.
J

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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> You gotta start somewhere Jack.
> 
> Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the 
> lighting situation.
> 
> A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project 
> the light from your flash.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
> Subject: Hummer Freezing(?)
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the 
>> K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
>> room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
>> soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror 
>> close-up.;)
>> 
>> Any one?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Looks delicious, Bob. :)
J

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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
>> On 1 Aug 2016, at 21:34, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hummers are tough!
>> 
>> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a 
>> lot of meat on them.
> 
> Try ortolan instead - roasting time is only 8 minutes. There are notes on how 
> to prepare, cook and eat them here:
> 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting
> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Ken Waller]

According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is 
the only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan.

No other bird is as tiny.
Its the only bird able to fly backwards.
The wings flap 50-60 time a minute.
The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute.
It breathes 250 time per minute.
It weighs 2 to 3 grans.
Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <pnstenqu...@mac.com>

Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)




On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmaty...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hummers are tough!




They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a 
lot of meat on them.


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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Ken Waller]

You gotta start somewhere Jack.

Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the 
lighting situation.


A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project 
the light from your flash.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Hummer Freezing(?)





My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird 
feeders.
I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on 
the K-3.

I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the 
family room..??

1/1=1/1200.
Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
soft. I read it
can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror 
close-up.;)


Any one?

J

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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Paul Stenquist]

What Bob said. Excellent.

Paul via phone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:14 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> Great image, fantastic detail!  Regards,  Bob S.
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Jostein  wrote:
>> I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird
>> I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings
>> would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames
>> hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without
>> flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit
>> to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.
>> 
>> Here's what that looked like:
>> http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/
>> 
>> Jostein
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
>>> feeders.
>>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
>>> the K-3.
>>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
>>> family room..??
>>> 1/1=1/1200.
>>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
>>> soft. I read it
>>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
>>> close-up.;)
>>> 
>>> Any one?
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

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On 1 Aug 2016, at 21:34, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> 
>> Hummers are tough!
> 
> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a 
> lot of meat on them.
> 

Try ortolan instead - roasting time is only 8 minutes. There are notes on how 
to prepare, cook and eat them here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting

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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

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Great image, fantastic detail!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Jostein  wrote:
> I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird
> I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings
> would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames
> hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without
> flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit
> to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.
>
> Here's what that looked like:
> http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/
>
> Jostein
>
>
>
> Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:
>>
>>
>>
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
>> feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
>> the K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
>> family room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
>> soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
>> close-up.;)
>>
>> Any one?
>>
>> J
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>>
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Well caught in a nice setting, Jostein.
I understand that their wings do not ever stop while in flight, but instead, 
each does a 
continuous figure eight. Seems likely to me.(?)

J

- Original Message -
From: "Jostein" <p...@alunfoto.no>
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Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 1:56:55 PM
Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated 
hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking 
that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a 
lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched 
direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to 
crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.

Here's what that looked like: 
http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/

Jostein


Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:
>
>
> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the 
> K-3.
> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
> room..??
> 1/1=1/1200.
> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
> soft. I read it
> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;)
>
> Any one?
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jostein]

I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated 
hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking 
that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a 
lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched 
direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to 
crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess.


Here's what that looked like: 
http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/


Jostein


Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis:



My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3.
I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family 
room..??
1/1=1/1200.
Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image 
soft. I read it
can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;)

Any one?

J

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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Paul Stenquist]

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Hummers are tough!
> 
> 

They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a lot 
of meat on them.

Paul


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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

Now you've got it, Dan! :)
J

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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Hummers are tough!
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't consider these, or any I've
>> shot, to be fully sharp accept when
>> perched.
>> I'm talking about the wings of course!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very
>>> nice hummer images.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
 On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis 
>> wrote:
 
 
 
 My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
>> feeders.
 I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
 the K-3.
 I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
 Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
 family room..??
 1/1=1/1200.
 Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and
>> image
 soft. I read it
 can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
 close-up.;)
 
 Any one?
 
 J
 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Hummers are tough!


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> I don't consider these, or any I've
> shot, to be fully sharp accept when
> perched.
> I'm talking about the wings of course!
>
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very
> > nice hummer images.
> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird
> feeders.
> >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
> >> the K-3.
> >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
> >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
> >> family room..??
> >> 1/1=1/1200.
> >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and
> image
> >> soft. I read it
> >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
> >> close-up.;)
> >>
> >> Any one?
> >>
> >> J
> >>
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> >>
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Jack Davis]

I don't consider these, or any I've
shot, to be fully sharp accept when
perched. 
I'm talking about the wings of course!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very
> nice hummer images.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
>> the K-3.
>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
>> family room..??
>> 1/1=1/1200.
>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
>> soft. I read it
>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
>> close-up.;)
>> 
>> Any one?
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>> 
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Re: Hummer Freezing(?)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very
nice hummer images.


Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

>
>
> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders.
> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on
> the K-3.
> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!!
> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the
> family room..??
> 1/1=1/1200.
> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image
> soft. I read it
> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror
> close-up.;)
>
> Any one?
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080
>
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>
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