Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
Received about 6 blasts of that from my Dr a couple days ago. Happens a coupe times a year. He removed a patch of forehead skin and had it biopsied this past week. Found Basal Cell Carcinoma. "Most common and least concerning" per my Dr. and PLEASE, I don't want to hear any different. Thanks! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2016, at 1:29 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > I recommend liquid nitrogen under pressure. > >> On 8/1/2016 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the >> K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family >> room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >> soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
I recommend liquid nitrogen under pressure. On 8/1/2016 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote: My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
A friend of mine uses a set-up where he closes off the holes in the feeder and has a couple of realistic looking silk flowers with hidden tubes leading up through the stem. The bird actually feeds from the tube, but the silk flower petals conceal it. A couple of additional "leafy branches" add to the illusion. He's also got it set up with the feeder out on the deck & shooting through an open window so the birds don't see him as a threat. There's no where for the birds to land while feeding, and because he's got the "flowers" dialed in he can pre-focus precisely where the bird is going to be when it goes for the "flower". He hangs a canvas backdrop behind the feeder that's painted like out of focus greenery, especially since it's far enough behind the feeder that it's really out of focus. He has another setup for other birds that consists of a dead branch he can clamp to the deck railing. He drilled holes in the back side where he can place bird seed & suet depending on what he's trying to attract. Again, he's got the location where the bird has to be to get to the food dialed in and he's sitting inside shooting through an open window so he doesn't spook the birds. On 8/2/2016 2:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-) Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed instead. J - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) You gotta start somewhere Jack. Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the lighting situation. A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project the light from your flash. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Hummer Freezing(?) My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
Actually, Bill. That's a pretty good average. J - Original Message - From: "Bill" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:51:19 PM Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) On 8/2/2016 8:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, Bruce. > I believe I'd need at least 6000 fps > in order to stop the wings and I have > a number of perched quietly feeding > already. :) > The 540 1/1=1200, so maybe 1/5+? > I have frozen wings at a shutter speed of 6400. > Thanks again! Several years ago, I was visiting Tom C at his home in Idaho. His wife had what seemed like dozens of hummingbird feeders strewn about the outside of the house. When I arrived, the noise of them outside the door was really freaky, it was like running a gauntlet of locusts. The morning I left, I was sitting having coffee with Tom amid these literally hundreds of Hummers when one chose to alight on my hand and stay for several seconds. It was one of the most magical moments of my life. I found that they are quite hard to photograph, I was using a K10 at the time, and out of dozens of exposures, I managed to get one that I was reasonably happy with. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
On 8/2/2016 8:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, Bruce. I believe I'd need at least 6000 fps in order to stop the wings and I have a number of perched quietly feeding already. :) The 540 1/1=1200, so maybe 1/5+? I have frozen wings at a shutter speed of 6400. Thanks again! Several years ago, I was visiting Tom C at his home in Idaho. His wife had what seemed like dozens of hummingbird feeders strewn about the outside of the house. When I arrived, the noise of them outside the door was really freaky, it was like running a gauntlet of locusts. The morning I left, I was sitting having coffee with Tom amid these literally hundreds of Hummers when one chose to alight on my hand and stay for several seconds. It was one of the most magical moments of my life. I found that they are quite hard to photograph, I was using a K10 at the time, and out of dozens of exposures, I managed to get one that I was reasonably happy with. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
Thanks for the suggestions, Bruce. I believe I'd need at least 6000 fps in order to stop the wings and I have a number of perched quietly feeding already. :) The 540 1/1=1200, so maybe 1/5+? I have frozen wings at a shutter speed of 6400. Thanks again! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Jack, the blip of light from a 540 at 1/64th power should easily > freeze hummer wings, But I suspect you had enough ambient light to > compete with your flash. You need to cut out the ambient so the flash > is the sole source of illumination if you want to use the flash to > freeze action. > > Try shooting the same scene both with and without the flash added to > see the effect. If you have the flash set up correctly the scene > without the flash should be black or just about. > > Also, the flash duration (t.1 time) is really short even at 1/2 or 1/4 > power on a 540 flash. I'd try shooting the birds with the flash at > about 1/4 power and with the head zoomed to the narrowest beam. Then > set the shutter for 1/180th sec (use X-sync), stop down the aperture, > and even attach a neutral density filter if the exposure at the bird > is still too high. This should eliminate the ambient light pretty > nicely. > > >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-) >> Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash >> will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed >> instead. >> >> J >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ken Waller" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM >> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) >> >> You gotta start somewhere Jack. >> >> Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the >> lighting situation. >> >> A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project >> the light from your flash. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jack Davis" >> Subject: Hummer Freezing(?) >> >> >>> >>> >>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird >>> feeders. >>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on >>> the K-3. >>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the >>> family room..?? >>> 1/1=1/1200. >>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >>> soft. I read it >>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >>> close-up.;) >>> >>> Any one? >>> >>> J >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
Jack, the blip of light from a 540 at 1/64th power should easily freeze hummer wings, But I suspect you had enough ambient light to compete with your flash. You need to cut out the ambient so the flash is the sole source of illumination if you want to use the flash to freeze action. Try shooting the same scene both with and without the flash added to see the effect. If you have the flash set up correctly the scene without the flash should be black or just about. Also, the flash duration (t.1 time) is really short even at 1/2 or 1/4 power on a 540 flash. I'd try shooting the birds with the flash at about 1/4 power and with the head zoomed to the narrowest beam. Then set the shutter for 1/180th sec (use X-sync), stop down the aperture, and even attach a neutral density filter if the exposure at the bird is still too high. This should eliminate the ambient light pretty nicely. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-) > Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash > will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed > instead. > > J > - Original Message - > From: "Ken Waller" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM > Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) > > You gotta start somewhere Jack. > > Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the > lighting situation. > > A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project > the light from your flash. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Hummer Freezing(?) > > >> >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird >> feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on >> the K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the >> family room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >> soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
Yes, any shutter speed, above the native 180 per second with this unit, requires the setting of the available "High Speed Sink" feature. I agree, Jostein that it would seem logical to expect the wing movement to be somewhat slower in making an abrupt turn. J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Jostein wrote: > > The figure of eight is what I have read too. But I believe the wing tips move > slower at the sharp turns of the eight, so that there are certain wing > positions that allow longer shutter speeds. > > When you do P-TTL, do you use Hi-speed flash mode? Probably a dumb question, > but I don't know the 540 flash (got a Metz unit myself). > > Jostein > > Den 01.08.2016 23.54, skrev Jack Davis: >> Well caught in a nice setting, Jostein. >> I understand that their wings do not ever stop while in flight, but instead, >> each does a >> continuous figure eight. Seems likely to me.(?) >> >> J >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jostein" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 1:56:55 PM >> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) >> >> I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated >> hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking >> that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a >> lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched >> direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to >> crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. >> >> Here's what that looked like: >> http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ >> >> Jostein >> >> >> Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: >>> >>> >>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. >>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the >>> K-3. >>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family >>> room..?? >>> 1/1=1/1200. >>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >>> soft. I read it >>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >>> close-up.;) >>> >>> Any one? >>> >>> J >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >>> >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
The figure of eight is what I have read too. But I believe the wing tips move slower at the sharp turns of the eight, so that there are certain wing positions that allow longer shutter speeds. When you do P-TTL, do you use Hi-speed flash mode? Probably a dumb question, but I don't know the 540 flash (got a Metz unit myself). Jostein Den 01.08.2016 23.54, skrev Jack Davis: Well caught in a nice setting, Jostein. I understand that their wings do not ever stop while in flight, but instead, each does a continuous figure eight. Seems likely to me.(?) J - Original Message - From: "Jostein" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 1:56:55 PM Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. Here's what that looked like: http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ Jostein Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
Thank you for the kind words, Dan! In this case I just wanted to illustrate the point about wing position. :-) Jostein Den 02.08.2016 05.10, skrev Daniel J. Matyola: Beautiful, Jostein. I love that image! Strong detail, and a crisp mage. I really love the color in the background,which harmonizes with the plumage. The blossoms frame the bird well, and the curve of the lower branch adds a lot of interest and draws the eye into the bird itself. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Jostein wrote: I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. Here's what that looked like: http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ Jostein Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
I have a "Better Beamer" but hesitate to use it from 7' ;-) Sides, I have PLENTY of light, especially since it appears the 1/64 flash will not freeze the Hummer wings and I'll be using shutter speed instead. J - Original Message - From: "Ken Waller" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 5:13:39 PM Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) You gotta start somewhere Jack. Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the lighting situation. A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project the light from your flash. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Hummer Freezing(?) > > > My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird > feeders. > I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on > the K-3. > I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! > Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the > family room..?? > 1/1=1/1200. > Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image > soft. I read it > can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror > close-up.;) > > Any one? > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Shame! :-)) J Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> That wing flap count must be "per second." > > Correct Jack - I mistyped the info. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message ----- From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) > > >> That wing flap count must be "per second." >> Had to imagine a hummer smaller >> than ours. >> >> J >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >>> >>> According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is >>> the only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan. >>> No other bird is as tiny. >>> Its the only bird able to fly backwards. >>> The wings flap 50-60 time a minute. >>> The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute. >>> It breathes 250 time per minute. >>> It weighs 2 to 3 grans. >>> Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee. >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" >>> Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hummers are tough! >>>> >>>> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a >>>> lot of meat on them. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>>> IBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the >>>>> directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The wing count declines sharply after you freeze the little bugger. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
That wing flap count must be "per second." Correct Jack - I mistyped the info. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) That wing flap count must be "per second." Had to imagine a hummer smaller than ours. J Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Ken Waller wrote: According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is the only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan. No other bird is as tiny. Its the only bird able to fly backwards. The wings flap 50-60 time a minute. The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute. It breathes 250 time per minute. It weighs 2 to 3 grans. Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Hummers are tough! They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a lot of meat on them. Paul IBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beautiful, Jostein. I love that image! Strong detail, and a crisp mage. I really love the color in the background,which harmonizes with the plumage. The blossoms frame the bird well, and the curve of the lower branch adds a lot of interest and draws the eye into the bird itself. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Jostein wrote: > I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated > hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking > that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot > of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That > was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to > 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. > > Here's what that looked like: > http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ > > Jostein > > > Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: > >> >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird >> feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on >> the K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the >> family room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and >> image soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >> >> > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bruce, thanks for the thoughtful well considered suggestions and kind comments. I'll, perhaps, get serious about Hummer shooting at some point and apply your suggestions Much appreciated!! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Jack, I think your shots are pretty darned good for a first attempt. > > I have no experience shooting hummers specifically, but I have seen > the terrific results of folks who do while using strobes and flashes, > and I know lighting in general. Based on that, if I were trying this, > I'd get the flash as close to the feeder as I could and use a wireless > trigger on the camera to fire it. Two flashes would be even better. > > I'd try starting with bare flash, but I'd also be strongly tempted to > make the light source larger than the hummer so it's not such a hard > light. I'd use a silver reflector of some sort for efficiency. > > I bet that a two-light setup -- a soft source at 45 degrees from the > front and a hard source from the rear as a rim light to outline the > bird and also shine through the translucent wings -- would be > wonderful. > > We only ever get about three hummer sightings per season at our > feeder, or I'd try this myself. > > > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the >> K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family >> room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >> soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Jack, I think your shots are pretty darned good for a first attempt. I have no experience shooting hummers specifically, but I have seen the terrific results of folks who do while using strobes and flashes, and I know lighting in general. Based on that, if I were trying this, I'd get the flash as close to the feeder as I could and use a wireless trigger on the camera to fire it. Two flashes would be even better. I'd try starting with bare flash, but I'd also be strongly tempted to make the light source larger than the hummer so it's not such a hard light. I'd use a silver reflector of some sort for efficiency. I bet that a two-light setup -- a soft source at 45 degrees from the front and a hard source from the rear as a rim light to outline the bird and also shine through the translucent wings -- would be wonderful. We only ever get about three hummer sightings per season at our feeder, or I'd try this myself. On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. > I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the > K-3. > I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! > Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family > room..?? > 1/1=1/1200. > Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image > soft. I read it > can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) > > Any one? > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That wing flap count must be "per second." Had to imagine a hummer smaller than ours. J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is the > only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan. > No other bird is as tiny. > Its the only bird able to fly backwards. > The wings flap 50-60 time a minute. > The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute. > It breathes 250 time per minute. > It weighs 2 to 3 grans. > Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) > > >> >>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> >>> Hummers are tough! >> >> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a >> lot of meat on them. >> >> Paul >> >> >>> IBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the >>> directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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All I'm doing at this point, Ken is considering flash vs shutter. Thanks for suggestion. J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > You gotta start somewhere Jack. > > Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the > lighting situation. > > A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project > the light from your flash. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Hummer Freezing(?) > > >> >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the >> K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family >> room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >> soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Looks delicious, Bob. :) J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> On 1 Aug 2016, at 21:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> >>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> >>> Hummers are tough! >> >> They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a >> lot of meat on them. > > Try ortolan instead - roasting time is only 8 minutes. There are notes on how > to prepare, cook and eat them here: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting > > B > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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According to my 'Birds of Michigan' book, the Ruy-throated hummingbird is the only hummingbird regularily seen in Michigan. No other bird is as tiny. Its the only bird able to fly backwards. The wings flap 50-60 time a minute. The heart pumps 1,260 beats per minute. It breathes 250 time per minute. It weighs 2 to 3 grans. Five average hummingbirds about equals the weight of one chickadee. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Hummers are tough! They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a lot of meat on them. Paul IBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You gotta start somewhere Jack. Moving them out from the structure on top of the feeder has got to help the lighting situation. A 'Better Beamer' is a relatively cheap fresnel lens that will help project the light from your flash. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Hummer Freezing(?) My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What Bob said. Excellent. Paul via phone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 7:14 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > > Great image, fantastic detail! Regards, Bob S. > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Jostein wrote: >> I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird >> I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings >> would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames >> hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without >> flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit >> to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. >> >> Here's what that looked like: >> http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ >> >> Jostein >> >> >> >> Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: >>> >>> >>> >>> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird >>> feeders. >>> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on >>> the K-3. >>> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >>> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the >>> family room..?? >>> 1/1=1/1200. >>> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >>> soft. I read it >>> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >>> close-up.;) >>> >>> Any one? >>> >>> J >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1 Aug 2016, at 21:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > >> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> Hummers are tough! > > They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a > lot of meat on them. > Try ortolan instead - roasting time is only 8 minutes. There are notes on how to prepare, cook and eat them here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great image, fantastic detail! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Jostein wrote: > I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird > I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings > would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames > hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without > flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit > to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. > > Here's what that looked like: > http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ > > Jostein > > > > Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: >> >> >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird >> feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on >> the K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the >> family room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >> soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well caught in a nice setting, Jostein. I understand that their wings do not ever stop while in flight, but instead, each does a continuous figure eight. Seems likely to me.(?) J - Original Message - From: "Jostein" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 1:56:55 PM Subject: Re: Hummer Freezing(?) I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. Here's what that looked like: http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ Jostein Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: > > > My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. > I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the > K-3. > I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! > Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family > room..?? > 1/1=1/1200. > Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image > soft. I read it > can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) > > Any one? > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've shot exactly one session with those birds, a ruby-throated hummingbird I encountered along the Big Sur in 2013. I remember thinking that the wings would have to stop before they turned, and rattled off a lot of frames hoping to hit the point where the wings switched direction. That was without flash, at 1/1000s shutter speed. I had to crank up the ISO to 1600 too. Hit to miss ratio was about 1:30, I guess. Here's what that looked like: http://www.alunfoto.no/album/big-sur/innhold/hummingbird/?base_folder=/ Jostein Den 01.08.2016 16.48, skrev Jack Davis: My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> On Aug 1, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Hummers are tough! > > They’re quite good if you braise them for several hours, but there’s not a lot of meat on them. Paul > IBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the > directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Now you've got it, Dan! :) J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > Hummers are tough! > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> I don't consider these, or any I've >> shot, to be fully sharp accept when >> perched. >> I'm talking about the wings of course! >> >> J >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very >>> nice hummer images. >>> >>> >>> Dan Matyola >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis >> wrote: My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird >> feeders. I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on the K-3. I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the family room..?? 1/1=1/1200. Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and >> image soft. I read it can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror close-up.;) Any one? J http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hummers are tough! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > I don't consider these, or any I've > shot, to be fully sharp accept when > perched. > I'm talking about the wings of course! > > J > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote: > > > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very > > nice hummer images. > > > > > > Dan Matyola > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird > feeders. > >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on > >> the K-3. > >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! > >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the > >> family room..?? > >> 1/1=1/1200. > >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and > image > >> soft. I read it > >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror > >> close-up.;) > >> > >> Any one? > >> > >> J > >> > >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 > >> > >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 > >> > >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
I don't consider these, or any I've shot, to be fully sharp accept when perched. I'm talking about the wings of course! J Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 1, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very > nice hummer images. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> >> >> My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. >> I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on >> the K-3. >> I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! >> Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the >> family room..?? >> 1/1=1/1200. >> Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image >> soft. I read it >> can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror >> close-up.;) >> >> Any one? >> >> J >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 >> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hummer Freezing(?)
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "Not doing it!!" but those are very nice hummer images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > My wife made the decision (of course) to hang a couple Hummingbird feeders. > I've been dinkin' around attempting to freeze them with an AF540-FGZ on > the K-3. > I've chosen to use "M" flash setting at 1/64 duration. Not doing it!! > Said setting does, however, fully light a scene 'prox 25' across the > family room..?? > 1/1=1/1200. > Tried PTTL at minus a couple stops duration. Background too dark and image > soft. I read it > can do 1/2 in the right light. Probably shooting into a mirror > close-up.;) > > Any one? > > J > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1080 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1081 > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1082 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.