Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
aimcompute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is truly amazing. I wonder what is up with Kodak? 1. Do they want to unload the scanners that bad? 2. Are they having problems selling the scanners? 3. Do they want to get rid of the film that bad? 100 X $6.00 a roll. That's 2/3 the price of the scanner itself. Makes one wonder... if they just wanted to unload scanners they could just drop the price and keep the film. Very Odd IMO. I agree. I'm guessing that they've realized that the scanner is overpriced compared to the competition, but I can't imagine why they're doing this instead of just reducing the price. Here's their offer: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/scanners/rfs3600/offer.jhtml Mark Roberts wrote: snip It's kind of overpriced in the current market (around $900.00 I think) because it doesn't have the digital ICE dust scratch removal and it's construction is decidedly flimsy. On the plus side, it comes with 10 36-exposure rolls of Kodak Supra 400 and until Jan 31, it comes with a coupon for 100 free rolls of Kodak professional film. Yep, 100 rolls. That brings the effective price down by a lot! (I expect when the rebate offer runs out they'll lower the price of the scanner to a more reasonable level.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
Let's see, give them a $600 discount off the scanner or give them $600 in film which costs us only $250... An accounting/accountant mentality as the $600 in film ultimately comes out of your total US Market sales. So are there any stand alone dust/scratch removal programs like Nikon's 'digital ice' which could be added to this scanner? With a $300 net price, we are starting to talk about a price I could afford. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. I'm guessing that they've realized that the scanner is overpriced compared to the competition, but I can't imagine why they're doing this instead of just reducing the price. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
There are software scratch removal programs, but they do not work very well and degrade the image significantly. ICE is different because it is a 'part-hardware' solution where the scanner makes and extra IR pass to detect the emulsion structure and surface defects. In this way, surface imperfections can be ironed out with little or no degradation in unaffected areas. Obviously the scanner needs to be designed with this in mind and the Kodak almost definately does not have an IR head. In addition the the lower cost of giving free film, is also gets people to use Kodak film who might otherwise have gone to Fuji, so it promotes the brand. You may just like the film after getting to know it with 100 rolls, so you might stick with it in future... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 December 2001 13:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW! Let's see, give them a $600 discount off the scanner or give them $600 in film which costs us only $250... An accounting/accountant mentality as the $600 in film ultimately comes out of your total US Market sales. So are there any stand alone dust/scratch removal programs like Nikon's 'digital ice' which could be added to this scanner? With a $300 net price, we are starting to talk about a price I could afford. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. I'm guessing that they've realized that the scanner is overpriced compared to the competition, but I can't imagine why they're doing this instead of just reducing the price. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
Not necessarily so. Might the ploy be to encourage more usage - processing -- for cheap film and encourage use of K film where competitive product might have been used otherwiseand protect list pricing during what me a rather slow period for sales?Kodak seems to have had a hard time over the last few years, I keep hoping they'll do better. Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see, give them a $600 discount off the scanner or give them $600 in film which costs us only $250... An accounting/accountant mentality as the $600 in film ultimately comes out of your total US Market sales. So are there any stand alone dust/scratch removal programs like Nikon's 'digital ice' which could be added to this scanner? With a $300 net price, we are starting to talk about a price I could afford. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree. I'm guessing that they've realized that the scanner is overpriced compared to the competition, but I can't imagine why they're doing this instead of just reducing the price. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
Mark Roberts wrote: I can't imagine why they're doing this instead of just reducing the price. I think it's a good marketing move. The guy or gal who buys the scanner will be shooting Kodak film, and he'll become rather proficient at scanning that particular film stock. (Those who have done a lot of scanning know that with time and practice you develop a technique for a particular film, and your results improve tremendously.) That means that down the road they'll continue selling film to this customer. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
Hmm, I'd like to see a comparison of your Minolta with the Nikon Coolscan IV ED, which is the same price but does include Digital ICE. Anybody seen both of these in action? Len --- - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW! - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
Got any comparative images to show us ?? I'm just getting into the Photography gig and I got myself a Scan Dual II in nov. At the moment 2820 dpi seems a bit for me. Would be very interested to see how it compares to the Kodak. Thanks. Chris - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW! I didn't think going from the 2820dpi of my Minolta Scan Multi up to the 3600dpi of the Kodak scanner would be that big a jump in quality. Wow, was I wrong! I just did my first scan and it's absolutely amazing! The level of detail revealed in a 35mm slide has to be seen to be believed. I'm doing a small exhibition of my running photos in February and I'll definitely be scanning everything on this baby. In fact, everything I intend to print (other than medium format, of course) is going to get scanned on this from now on. I'm very impressed. It's kind of overpriced in the current market (around $900.00 I think) because it doesn't have the digital ICE dust scratch removal and it's construction is decidedly flimsy. On the plus side, it comes with 10 36-exposure rolls of Kodak Supra 400 and until Jan 31, it comes with a coupon for 100 free rolls of Kodak professional film. Yep, 100 rolls. That brings the effective price down by a lot! (I expect when the rebate offer runs out they'll lower the price of the scanner to a more reasonable level.) -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Just got my Kodak RFS 3600 scanner working - WOW!
That is truly amazing. I wonder what is up with Kodak? 1. Do they want to unload the scanners that bad? 2. Are they having problems selling the scanners? 3. Do they want to get rid of the film that bad? 100 X $6.00 a roll. That's 2/3 the price of the scanner itself. Makes one wonder... if they just wanted to unload scanners they could just drop the price and keep the film. Very Odd IMO. Tom C. Mark Roberts wrote: snip It's kind of overpriced in the current market (around $900.00 I think) because it doesn't have the digital ICE dust scratch removal and it's construction is decidedly flimsy. On the plus side, it comes with 10 36-exposure rolls of Kodak Supra 400 and until Jan 31, it comes with a coupon for 100 free rolls of Kodak professional film. Yep, 100 rolls. That brings the effective price down by a lot! (I expect when the rebate offer runs out they'll lower the price of the scanner to a more reasonable level.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
