Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-07 Thread P.J. Alling

You were gone?

On 9/5/2013 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  A 
little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I decided 
to join and see what is happening.

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to the 
list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-07 Thread P.J. Alling

Lots...

On 9/6/2013 6:58 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Nearly happened to me when I lived on St. Helena.  A guy I had done a favour 
for once used to leave
a couple of fish from his catch in my car, and usually told me: once though he 
forgot to do so, and
this being Saturday morning, by Sunday night we began to notice it.  
Fortunately, immediate removal
and disposal meant I did not have the same problem as the fellow in Auckland.  
I wonder how much
smell-absorbent material there is in a car?


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:


I read someplace that the cormorant, as a defensive maneuver, will sometimes 
vomit half-digested

fish all over an attacker.

In which case, it is the perfect PDML mascot.

You just reminded me of a recent article about a guy who left some fish in his 
car for a week...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9101209/Fish-turns-car-into-64k-stink-bomb

Cheers,
Dave





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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-07 Thread Bruce
There is a list

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On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:28 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 You were gone?
 
 On 9/5/2013 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active 
 member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been 
 gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again 
 so I decided to join and see what is happening.
 
 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list.
 
 --
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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-07 Thread Boris Liberman

Welcome back, Bruce. I haven't seen you for quite a while indeed...

Looking forward to your photographs and insightful comments :-).

On 9/6/2013 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote:

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an
active member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax
while I have been gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me
thinking about the list again so I decided to join and see what is
happening.

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might
still be around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me
to come back to the list.

-- Bruce Dayton

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/9/13, Bruce, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active
member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have
been gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the
list again so I decided to join and see what is happening.  

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still
be around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come
back to the list. 

Mind if we call you Bruce to avoid confusion?

;-)

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Bruce,

Welcome back. I think you were mentioned here just the other day. Looking 
forward to seeing some of your work again.

Paul
On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.  
 
 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list. 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread Bruce Walker
I can give up this list an-y-time I want. Hell, just yesterday I gave
it up four times.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Great! I just came myself a while ago. Well,  maybe at the beginning of the
 year. Showed some photos then bumped off for a  while, came back and did
 the same again, and bumped off for a while.

 Just back again this week.

 WELCOME BACK, Bruce!!!

 So glad  to see you.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)

 In a message dated 9/5/2013  2:29:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 bkday...@daytonphoto.com  writes:
 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years  ago I was an active
 member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting  Pentax while I have been
 gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me  thinking about the list again
 so I decided to join and see what is  happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to  see who might still
 be around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for  allowing me to come back
 to the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread Eactivist
Great! I just came myself a while ago. Well,  maybe at the beginning of the 
year. Showed some photos then bumped off for a  while, came back and did 
the same again, and bumped off for a while.  

Just back again this week.

WELCOME BACK, Bruce!!!

So glad  to see you. 

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 9/5/2013  2:29:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
bkday...@daytonphoto.com  writes:
Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years  ago I was an active 
member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting  Pentax while I have been 
gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me  thinking about the list again 
so I decided to join and see what is  happening.  

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to  see who might still 
be around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for  allowing me to come back 
to the list. 

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread John

On 9/6/2013 1:56 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:


I read someplace that the cormorant, as a defensive maneuver, will sometimes 
vomit half-digested fish all over an attacker.

In which case, it is the perfect PDML mascot.


You just reminded me of a recent article about a guy who left some fish in his 
car for a week...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9101209/Fish-turns-car-into-64k-stink-bomb

Cheers,
Dave




I wonder if he's got any tattoos?

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread John Francis

Yay! Bruce!


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RE: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread John Coyle
Nearly happened to me when I lived on St. Helena.  A guy I had done a favour 
for once used to leave
a couple of fish from his catch in my car, and usually told me: once though he 
forgot to do so, and
this being Saturday morning, by Sunday night we began to notice it.  
Fortunately, immediate removal
and disposal meant I did not have the same problem as the fellow in Auckland.  
I wonder how much
smell-absorbent material there is in a car?


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 3:56 PM
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On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I read someplace that the cormorant, as a defensive maneuver, will sometimes 
 vomit half-digested
fish all over an attacker.
 
 In which case, it is the perfect PDML mascot.

You just reminded me of a recent article about a guy who left some fish in his 
car for a week...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9101209/Fish-turns-car-into-64k-stink-bomb

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-06 Thread Mark C

Welcome back, Bruce!

Mark Cassino

On 9/5/2013 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  A 
little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I decided 
to join and see what is happening.

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to the 
list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Good to have you back, Bruce.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread David J Brooks
welcome back. My spelling is pretty much the same, so you have not
nissed much:-)

Dave

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Stan Halpin
Welcome to a prodigal son! While you were gone Pentax went through a few 
transformations and then finally produced a FF body with a whole family of new 
lenses. Negative reaction from this list (e.g., the 18-180/2.0 should have been 
a 17-178/1.4, the new 200/2.8 macro should have been a 197, 15FPS with a buffer 
of only 45 RAW shots were inadequate for fast paced sports like cricket, etc.) 
convinced Pentax to withdraw the whole line-up within a few weeks.  ;-)  We are 
waiting to see what happens next. 

Other than that, things are much the same. 

Sometimes I think the Vulture should have been the PDML Official Bird rather 
than the lovable cormorant.

stan

On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.  
 
 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list. 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Hi old friend.  Bob S.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hey Bruce:  Great to see you back!  Looking forward to setting your great 
 work!  Cheers, Christine



 On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active 
 member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been 
 gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again 
 so I decided to join and see what is happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Bruce Walker
Welcome back, Bruce!


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Christine Aguila
Hey Bruce:  Great to see you back!  Looking forward to setting your great work! 
 Cheers, Christine



On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.  
 
 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list. 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Rick Womer
Woo-hoo!  Welcome back!

Rick
 
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From: Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com
To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 5:28 PM
Subject: Just joined the list

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  A 
little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I decided 
to join and see what is happening.  

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to the 
list. 

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Rick Womer
I read someplace that the cormorant, as a defensive maneuver, will sometimes 
vomit half-digested fish all over an attacker.

In which case, it is the perfect PDML mascot.

Rick
 
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From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info
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Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Just joined the list

Welcome to a prodigal son! While you were gone Pentax went through a few 
transformations and then finally produced a FF body with a whole family of new 
lenses. Negative reaction from this list (e.g., the 18-180/2.0 should have been 
a 17-178/1.4, the new 200/2.8 macro should have been a 197, 15FPS with a buffer 
of only 45 RAW shots were inadequate for fast paced sports like cricket, etc.) 
convinced Pentax to withdraw the whole line-up within a few weeks.  ;-)  We are 
waiting to see what happens next. 

Other than that, things are much the same. 

Sometimes I think the Vulture should have been the PDML Official Bird rather 
than the lovable cormorant.

stan

On Sep 5, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.  
 
 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list. 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread knarf
Wow, so pleased to see you're back! I just mentioned you in a post the other 
day, and here you are. 

Wonderful! 

Really looking forward to seeing your beautiful nature photos again.  No one 
does minimalist nature like you!

:-)

Welcome back.

Cheers,
frank

Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active
member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have
been gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the
list again so I decided to join and see what is happening.  

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might
still be around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to
come back to the list. 

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
I remember the name and welcome you back, Bruce.

Jack



From: Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com
To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Just joined the list


Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  A 
little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I decided 
to join and see what is happening.  

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to the 
list. 

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RE: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread John Coyle
Welcome back Bruce - now we'll have to begin hating you all over again!

John Coyle
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Sent: Friday, 6 September 2013 7:28 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Just joined the list

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
of this list.  I have
stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  A little nudge from Rick 
Womer got me
thinking about the list again so I decided to join and see what is happening.  

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
around from when I was
on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to the list. 

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Walt Gilbert

I guess I must have joined in the intervening period, Bruce.

Nice to meet you, and welcome back!

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On 9/5/2013 4:28 PM, Bruce wrote:

Hello,

I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  A 
little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I decided 
to join and see what is happening.

It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to the 
list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hi Bruce, 
Nice to hear from you again!

Godfrey


On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active member 
 of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been gone.  
 A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again so I 
 decided to join and see what is happening.  
 
 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list. 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread Rob Studdert
Hi Bruce,

Lot's of curmudgeonly fun still to be had here :)

Cheers,

On 6 September 2013 13:54, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 Hi Bruce,
 Nice to hear from you again!

 Godfrey


 On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active 
 member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been 
 gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again 
 so I decided to join and see what is happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be 
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to 
 the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread mike wilson
Good to see you back Bruce.

On 05/09/2013, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I thought I would introduce myself.  Several years ago I was an active
 member of this list.  I have stayed active shooting Pentax while I have been
 gone.  A little nudge from Rick Womer got me thinking about the list again
 so I decided to join and see what is happening.

 It will take me a bit to get back up to speed and to see who might still be
 around from when I was on the list.  Thanks for allowing me to come back to
 the list.

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Re: Just joined the list

2013-09-05 Thread David Mann
On Sep 6, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I read someplace that the cormorant, as a defensive maneuver, will sometimes 
 vomit half-digested fish all over an attacker.
 
 In which case, it is the perfect PDML mascot.

You just reminded me of a recent article about a guy who left some fish in his 
car for a week...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9101209/Fish-turns-car-into-64k-stink-bomb

Cheers,
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Re: Just joined the list

2003-10-24 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I just joined the list today after being directed here by a
friend in 
 the US.  I'd like to introduce myself ...
 
 (...)
 
 kind regards from Sicily,
 
 Tyrone


Hi Tyrone,

Welcome to the list. It's nice to have someone else from
Southern Italy here!
:-)

About the DSLR question, I have just a little experience with
both the *istD and the 300D, but comparing the two side by side
and, mainly, looking through both finders, it's difficult to
fall in love with the Canon body (although I'm sure that the
final results may be perfectly comparable). On the 300D it seems
to look through the wrong end of a pair of binoculars...

Ciao,

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RE: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread Rob Brigham
From the background you describe, I think you would hate the 300D, its cy build 
quality and lack of manual control.  The 10D and *istD seems to be so close as far as 
performance goes for that not to be your decider.

With the 10D you get better built magnesium body, Image stabilisation (if you buy the 
IS lenses) and USM (AF motors in the lens rather than body, which is quieter and 
possibly faster too - although the latter is arguable).  You also get a much bigger, 
heavier body, possibly unsolvable AF problems depending on your luck and expensive 
proprietary batteries.

With the *istD you get a much smaller, lighter body, better viewfinder (so I am told), 
K mount (semi)compatibility and use of standard AA rechargeables.  You also get a 
plastic body (albeit still very solid and at least metal chassis unlike the 300D), and 
no future commitment to IS or USM.

There is a guy on dpreview who has both, and would get the *istD over the 10D (only by 
a whisker though) if he had the choice again.  It is, however, a personal choice.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 October 2003 07:41
 To: pentax-discuss
 Cc: pentax-discuss
 Subject: Just joined the list
 
 
 Hello.
 
 I just joined the list today after being directed here by a friend in 
 the US.  I'd like to introduce myself ...
 
 My name's Tyrone, and I've been involved with photography for 
 about 25 
 years, mostly using Pentax 35mm gear, although I've enjoyed Leica, 
 Rolleiflex TLR and other medium format gear, and now digital.  It's 
 nice to be able to use cameras that span more than sixty years of 
 technology and philosophy.  I don't subscribe to the idea 
 that any one 
 camera brand or format, or any one technology, is better than 
 another.
 
 That said, I'm looking at buying my first DSLR, and am wondering if 
 anyone here has experience with the camera and can discuss its pros 
 and cons based on having used the gear for a while, and also how it 
 may compare to the new Canon 300D and the 10D, which are my other 
 considerations.
 
 Also, will my older manual focus Pentax K-mount lenses work on the 
 *istD?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 kind regards from Sicily,
 
 Tyrone
 
 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread brooksdj
Welcome Tyrone.
You'v found the right placeg
Try this link in regard to your starkistD questions.
Its the mail archive's,scroll back a bit and you can find some threads on the D and 
lenses
and 
experiments by several others.

http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/

I have the Nikon D1 so a starkist D is not high on my list, this year anyway.  gI too
have many Pentax 
35 mm cameras and the 6x7,which i think is great.
Possible some enablement in the 35mm format very soon,as is Frank.

Looking forward to seeing your work on the PUG soon.

Dave in Canada  

 Hello.
 
 I just joined the list today after being directed here by a friend in 
 the US.  I'd like to introduce myself ...
 
 My name's Tyrone, and I've been involved with photography for about 25 
 years, mostly using Pentax 35mm gear, although I've enjoyed Leica, 
 Rolleiflex TLR and other medium format gear, and now digital.  It's 
 nice to be able to use cameras that span more than sixty years of 
 technology and philosophy.  I don't subscribe to the idea that any one 
 camera brand or format, or any one technology, is better than 
 another.
 
 That said, I'm looking at buying my first DSLR, and am wondering if 
 anyone here has experience with the camera and can discuss its pros 
 and cons based on having used the gear for a while, and also how it 
 may compare to the new Canon 300D and the 10D, which are my other 
 considerations.
 
 Also, will my older manual focus Pentax K-mount lenses work on the 
 *istD?
 
 Thanks for any help,
 
 kind regards from Sicily,
 
 Tyrone
 
 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 That's a wise words of the experienced man. Naturally, the best tool 
 depends on the job in hand. And even more naturally, it would be 
 illogical to assume that one brand has all the best tools for all 
 the jobs.

LOL  I just sold a photo made with a 4mp PS digital - it happened 
to be the perfect tool for the job because it happened to be the 
camera that was handy when the shot presented itself.



 Fully, only if they are of KA mount. Partially, and quite limitedly 
 so if they are pure K mount. 

In what way are pure K mount lenses limited.  They ain't got many 
features to limit LOL


 Kind regards from Tel Aviv suburbia.

I have very dear friends in T-A and nearby areas.  Small world.

Tyrone



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RE: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, Rob!

Thanks for your rather thorough reply.  I've a couple of questions at 
this point: What do you mean by possibly unsolvable AF problems for 
the 10D, and also, what do you mean by (semi)compatibility of 
K-mount lenses?  Thanks.

Kind regards from Palermo,

Tyrone



 You also get a much bigger, heavier 
 body, possibly unsolvable AF problems 
 
 With the *istD you get ...
 K mount (semi)compatibility 



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RE: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread Rob Brigham
See
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028message=6442468
and some of the replys.  Look almost anywhere on the web and find
references to the Canon focus problems.  Some say it is a lot of fuss
about nothing - possibly they got lucky in the samples they got?  Who
knows, but there is some kind issue there which Canon don't seem to be
able/willing to deal with.  Its probably hard to judge how that will
affect you (if at all) until it is too late to change your mind.

(semi)K mount relates to the fact that older lenses without the auto
aperture setting on the ring will not meter as easily on the *ist.  I
think this is K and M lenses - A, F, FA etc are all OK.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 October 2003 15:12
 To: pentax-discuss
 Subject: RE: Just joined the list
 
 
 Hello, Rob!
 
 Thanks for your rather thorough reply.  I've a couple of questions at 
 this point: What do you mean by possibly unsolvable AF problems for 
 the 10D, and also, what do you mean by (semi)compatibility of 
 K-mount lenses?  Thanks.
 
 Kind regards from Palermo,
 
 Tyrone
 
 
 
  You also get a much bigger, heavier
  body, possibly unsolvable AF problems 
  
  With the *istD you get ...
  K mount (semi)compatibility
 
 
 
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Re: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread Herb Chong
having spent a little while this weekend playing with a Digital Rebel (aka
300D) that a friend bought, i think its build quality is significantly
higher than the average PS digital camera and that is what will matter. if
i wasn't already committed to Pentax, i would not hesitate to get a 300D to
upgrade from my current digital cameras. each one of my two most recent PS
digital cameras cost more.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: Just joined the list


 From the background you describe, I think you would hate the 300D, its
cy build quality and lack of manual control.  The 10D and *istD seems to
be so close as far as performance goes for that not to be your decider.

 With the 10D you get better built magnesium body, Image stabilisation (if
you buy the IS lenses) and USM (AF motors in the lens rather than body,
which is quieter and possibly faster too - although the latter is arguable).
You also get a much bigger, heavier body, possibly unsolvable AF problems
depending on your luck and expensive proprietary batteries.

 With the *istD you get a much smaller, lighter body, better viewfinder (so
I am told), K mount (semi)compatibility and use of standard AA
rechargeables.  You also get a plastic body (albeit still very solid and at
least metal chassis unlike the 300D), and no future commitment to IS or USM.

 There is a guy on dpreview who has both, and would get the *istD over the
10D (only by a whisker though) if he had the choice again.  It is, however,
a personal choice.




Re: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was thinking about the 300D, but have decided against it. It will not
 do manual well enough. I am not totally clear on all the features, but
 it seems it sets aperture for one and that is hard or impossible to
 override. I wouldn't like that.

Actually, the 300D (Rebel Digital in Canada) has full manual, aperture
priority, shutter priority, program, and full auto modes, just like film
SLRs do.  It's missing a spot meter and flash exp. comp., but that's about
it.

chris



Re: Just joined the list

2003-10-23 Thread Eactivist
Actually, the 300D (Rebel Digital in Canada) has full manual, aperture
priority, shutter priority, program, and full auto modes, just like film
SLRs do.  It's missing a spot meter and flash exp. comp., but that's about
it.

chris

Hmmm. Misunderstood what I read then. Or maybe most of the posts I was 
reading they were using full program modes.

Okay, thanks. It's back in the running.

Doe aka Marnie :-)