Re: K-5 Metadata Issue - solved

2017-12-08 Thread Brian Walters
It seems the problem isn't anything to do with the camera it's a bug in the
software I've been using for image management (Zoner Photo Studio 17).  My
workflow has been to use ZPS17 to add descriptors/keywords etc and then send
images needing further processing from ZPS17 to Photoshop, but I've just
discovered that as soon as I save the descriptors in ZPS17, the Lens Info (and
presumably the full Maker Notes metadata) disappears.

Fortunately, I also have Zoner Photo Studio 18 (I prefer the interface of the
earlier version which is why I've been using it)  Anyway, I've just tested some
images in ZPS18 and the bug has apparently been fixed - so I'll be using that
version in future.

Back to that drink...


Cheers

Brian

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> On 09 December 2017 at 14:45 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Zos
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions but things are becoming even weirder...
> 
> It seems that the camera is actually recording the Maker Notes.  I just
> checked
> the metadata on the SD card for recent images and all metadata is present, but
> the Maker Notes are missing for those same images that had been copied across
> to
> my hard drive.
> 
> What's even more frustrating is that I can't now reproduce the problem.  I
> just
> took a couple of photos, copied the images across to the hard drive - and all
> metadata is present.
> 
> I need a drink...
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> 
> > On 09 December 2017 at 13:37 Zos Xavius  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Try reflashing the firmware on it. It might just be something weird.
> > No lens data in lightroom either? I would guess not if exiftool isn't
> > reporting it.
> > 
> > You also might want to try cleaning the contacts on your camera to
> > make sure it is getting good communication first. You should be seeing
> > focal lenght information in the jpeg review on the camera if you press
> > the info button. If you are not the lens->camera connection is
> > suspect.
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Brian Walters 
> > wrote:
> > > This is a bit odd.
> > >
> > > This morning I wanted to check the lens that I'd used on my K-5 a few
> > > weeks
> > > ago.
> > >  I opened the image in ExifTool and found the Lens field blank. Very
> > > strange, I
> > > thought, because I've only been using AF lenses.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on further checking I found that the entire Maker Notes section of
> > > the
> > > metadata was absent and I know that it had been recorded in the past.
> > >
> > > As near as I can make out, the camera stopped recording the Maker Notes in
> > > November 2015.  All previous images have the complete metadata - all
> > > subsequent
> > > ones have no Maker Notes.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any idea why this might be the happening?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >

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Re: K-5 Metadata Issue

2017-12-08 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Zos

Thanks for the suggestions but things are becoming even weirder...

It seems that the camera is actually recording the Maker Notes.  I just checked
the metadata on the SD card for recent images and all metadata is present, but
the Maker Notes are missing for those same images that had been copied across to
my hard drive.

What's even more frustrating is that I can't now reproduce the problem.  I just
took a couple of photos, copied the images across to the hard drive - and all
metadata is present.

I need a drink...


Cheers

Brian

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> On 09 December 2017 at 13:37 Zos Xavius  wrote:
> 
> 
> Try reflashing the firmware on it. It might just be something weird.
> No lens data in lightroom either? I would guess not if exiftool isn't
> reporting it.
> 
> You also might want to try cleaning the contacts on your camera to
> make sure it is getting good communication first. You should be seeing
> focal lenght information in the jpeg review on the camera if you press
> the info button. If you are not the lens->camera connection is
> suspect.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > This is a bit odd.
> >
> > This morning I wanted to check the lens that I'd used on my K-5 a few weeks
> > ago.
> >  I opened the image in ExifTool and found the Lens field blank. Very
> > strange, I
> > thought, because I've only been using AF lenses.
> >
> > Anyway, on further checking I found that the entire Maker Notes section of
> > the
> > metadata was absent and I know that it had been recorded in the past.
> >
> > As near as I can make out, the camera stopped recording the Maker Notes in
> > November 2015.  All previous images have the complete metadata - all
> > subsequent
> > ones have no Maker Notes.
> >
> > Anyone have any idea why this might be the happening?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: K-5 Metadata Issue

2017-12-08 Thread Zos Xavius
Try reflashing the firmware on it. It might just be something weird.
No lens data in lightroom either? I would guess not if exiftool isn't
reporting it.

You also might want to try cleaning the contacts on your camera to
make sure it is getting good communication first. You should be seeing
focal lenght information in the jpeg review on the camera if you press
the info button. If you are not the lens->camera connection is
suspect.

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> This is a bit odd.
>
> This morning I wanted to check the lens that I'd used on my K-5 a few weeks 
> ago.
>  I opened the image in ExifTool and found the Lens field blank. Very strange, 
> I
> thought, because I've only been using AF lenses.
>
> Anyway, on further checking I found that the entire Maker Notes section of the
> metadata was absent and I know that it had been recorded in the past.
>
> As near as I can make out, the camera stopped recording the Maker Notes in
> November 2015.  All previous images have the complete metadata - all 
> subsequent
> ones have no Maker Notes.
>
> Anyone have any idea why this might be the happening?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-31 Thread Rob Studdert
As you know Larry it's easy to end up with a lot of images shooting
dance and other live performance, my RAW library is approaching 450k
images but that's less than I've shot as I have started outright
discarding images that I know will not be used in any way.



On 1 November 2017 at 11:38, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Rick, I do give my cameras quite a workout, my main K3 is just
>> past 225k shots I think, my just new D750 has about 20k shots on it
>> already.
>
>
> I'm impressed, my whole catalog of digital photos (most of which are in the
> past ten years) is barely more than twice that.
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-31 Thread Larry Colen



Rob Studdert wrote:

Thanks Rick, I do give my cameras quite a workout, my main K3 is just
past 225k shots I think, my just new D750 has about 20k shots on it
already.


I'm impressed, my whole catalog of digital photos (most of which are in 
the past ten years) is barely more than twice that.


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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-31 Thread Rob Studdert
Thanks Rick, I do give my cameras quite a workout, my main K3 is just
past 225k shots I think, my just new D750 has about 20k shots on it
already.

Time is difficult to juggle at the moment, I don't get enough time to
do things that I really need to so I only have time to pop in here
once in a while :(

All those shots come with consequences, I'm steadily working my way
through a backlog of shoots, so not much time to post anywhere and
less time to do my own thing.

One day I'll get it under control :)

On 1 November 2017 at 04:16, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Rob, as I said, "20K is just a quiet week's work" for some on the list.
>
> I miss your posts here. The city shots on FB a month or two ago were
> beautiful; but I hate posting on FB.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>> I still use my K5IIs a bit, shutter count on that is 152599 and still
>> going strong. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 October 2017 at 08:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
>>> Make that "Maker Notes"
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 31 October 2017 at 08:02 Brian Walters  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On 30 October 2017 at 17:55 John Coyle  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Doesn't show in Bridge, or XNView?
>>>>
>>>> Shutter Count is in the Masker Notes rather than the Exif.  It wont show 
>>>> up in
>>>> most image viewer programs.  You'll need something like PhotoME ot Exif 
>>>> Tool
>>>> to
>>>> see it.  Or there is a website where you can upload an image and it will 
>>>> show
>>>> the shutter count - can't remember the URL but a Google search should find 
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ++
>>>> Brian Walters
>>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > -Original Message-
>>>> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>>>> > Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 11:36 AM
>>>> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>> > Subject: Re: K-5 20K
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > John Coyle wrote:
>>>> > > I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand),
>>>> > > so the shutter count is probably at about 19,000.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts 
>>>> > > for a
>>>> > > large proportion of
>>>> > that!
>>>> >
>>>> > The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.
>>>> >
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-31 Thread Rick Womer
Rob, as I said, "20K is just a quiet week's work" for some on the list.

I miss your posts here. The city shots on FB a month or two ago were
beautiful; but I hate posting on FB.

Rick

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> I still use my K5IIs a bit, shutter count on that is 152599 and still
> going strong. :)
>
>
>
> On 31 October 2017 at 08:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> Make that "Maker Notes"
>>
>>
>>> On 31 October 2017 at 08:02 Brian Walters  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 30 October 2017 at 17:55 John Coyle  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Doesn't show in Bridge, or XNView?
>>>
>>> Shutter Count is in the Masker Notes rather than the Exif.  It wont show up 
>>> in
>>> most image viewer programs.  You'll need something like PhotoME ot Exif Tool
>>> to
>>> see it.  Or there is a website where you can upload an image and it will 
>>> show
>>> the shutter count - can't remember the URL but a Google search should find 
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> ++
>>> Brian Walters
>>> Western Sydney Australia
>>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>>
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>>> > Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 11:36 AM
>>> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> > Subject: Re: K-5 20K
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > John Coyle wrote:
>>> > > I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand),
>>> > > so the shutter count is probably at about 19,000.
>>> > >
>>> > > That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts 
>>> > > for a
>>> > > large proportion of
>>> > that!
>>> >
>>> > The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.
>>> >
>>> > --
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-30 Thread Rob Studdert
I still use my K5IIs a bit, shutter count on that is 152599 and still
going strong. :)



On 31 October 2017 at 08:26, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Make that "Maker Notes"
>
>
>> On 31 October 2017 at 08:02 Brian Walters  wrote:
>>
>>
>> > On 30 October 2017 at 17:55 John Coyle  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Doesn't show in Bridge, or XNView?
>>
>> Shutter Count is in the Masker Notes rather than the Exif.  It wont show up 
>> in
>> most image viewer programs.  You'll need something like PhotoME ot Exif Tool
>> to
>> see it.  Or there is a website where you can upload an image and it will show
>> the shutter count - can't remember the URL but a Google search should find 
>> it.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>> > Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 11:36 AM
>> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> > Subject: Re: K-5 20K
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > John Coyle wrote:
>> > > I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand),
>> > > so the shutter count is probably at about 19,000.
>> > >
>> > > That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for 
>> > > a
>> > > large proportion of
>> > that!
>> >
>> > The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
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RE: K-5 20K

2017-10-30 Thread Brian Walters
Make that "Maker Notes"


> On 31 October 2017 at 08:02 Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 30 October 2017 at 17:55 John Coyle  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Doesn't show in Bridge, or XNView?
> 
> Shutter Count is in the Masker Notes rather than the Exif.  It wont show up in
> most image viewer programs.  You'll need something like PhotoME ot Exif Tool
> to
> see it.  Or there is a website where you can upload an image and it will show
> the shutter count - can't remember the URL but a Google search should find it.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> > Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 11:36 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > Subject: Re: K-5 20K
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John Coyle wrote:
> > > I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), 
> > > so the shutter count is probably at about 19,000.
> > >
> > > That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a
> > > large proportion of
> > that!
> > 
> > The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.
> > 
> > --
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> > 
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RE: K-5 20K

2017-10-30 Thread Brian Walters
> On 30 October 2017 at 17:55 John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> 
> Doesn't show in Bridge, or XNView?

Shutter Count is in the Masker Notes rather than the Exif.  It wont show up in
most image viewer programs.  You'll need something like PhotoME ot Exif Tool to
see it.  Or there is a website where you can upload an image and it will show
the shutter count - can't remember the URL but a Google search should find it.


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> Sent: Monday, 30 October 2017 11:36 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: K-5 20K
> 
> 
> 
> John Coyle wrote:
> > I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), 
> > so the shutter count is probably at about 19,000.
> >
> > That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a
> > large proportion of
> that!
> 
> The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.
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RE: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread John Coyle
Doesn't show in Bridge, or XNView?


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John Coyle wrote:
> I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), 
> so the shutter count is probably at about 19,000.
>
> That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a 
> large proportion of
that!

The exif data will tell you how many shutter cycles are on the body.

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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread Larry Colen



John Coyle wrote:

I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), so the 
shutter count is
probably at about 19,000.

That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a 
large proportion of that!


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RE: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread John Coyle
I'm now on 10,700 but I reset the camera when I got it (second-hand), so the 
shutter count is
probably at about 19,000.

That's in one year of owning it, so the US holiday probably accounts for a 
large proportion of that!


John in Brisbane



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> On 29 October 2017 at 23:43 David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice, mine is just about to roll over 10K so you have been busier than 
> moi.:-)

I'm even less.  Just about to rollover 9000. Admittedly, I have been using the 
OM-Ds more lately.


Cheers

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> 
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > Wandering about the Marquette University campus in MKE today, I 
> > rolled
> > 20,000 exposures on my 5-year-old K-5. My shooting has slowed down a 
> > lot this past year or so because of time pressure (work and house
> > renovations) and my trying to be more selective and careful in my 
> > shooting.
> >
> > I continue to like the camera a lot.
> >
> > I know that 20K is just a quiet week's work for some of you, but still...
> >
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread Brian Walters
> On 29 October 2017 at 23:43 David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
> Nice, mine is just about to roll over 10K so you have been busier than moi.:-)

I'm even less.  Just about to rollover 9000. Admittedly, I have been using the
OM-Ds more lately.


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> 
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> > Wandering about the Marquette University campus in MKE today, I rolled
> > 20,000 exposures on my 5-year-old K-5. My shooting has slowed down a
> > lot this past year or so because of time pressure (work and house
> > renovations) and my trying to be more selective and careful in my
> > shooting.
> >
> > I continue to like the camera a lot.
> >
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> >
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-29 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, mine is just about to roll over 10K so you have been busier than moi.:-)

Dave

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Wandering about the Marquette University campus in MKE today, I rolled
> 20,000 exposures on my 5-year-old K-5. My shooting has slowed down a
> lot this past year or so because of time pressure (work and house
> renovations) and my trying to be more selective and careful in my
> shooting.
>
> I continue to like the camera a lot.
>
> I know that 20K is just a quiet week's work for some of you, but still...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick
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Re: K-5 20K

2017-10-28 Thread Larry Colen



Rick Womer wrote:

Wandering about the Marquette University campus in MKE today, I rolled
20,000 exposures on my 5-year-old K-5. My shooting has slowed down a
lot this past year or so because of time pressure (work and house
renovations) and my trying to be more selective and careful in my
shooting.

I continue to like the camera a lot.


With good reason.


I know that 20K is just a quiet week's work for some of you, but still...


It doesn't matter how many pictures you take, it doesn't even matter how 
many good photos you take, what matters is whether you have fun taking them.





Cheers,

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Re: K-5 sound question (EUREKA!)

2016-10-16 Thread ann sanfedele

The solution is always simple 

When I go the camera I place a piece of bright yellow tape on top , 
right in front of where a flash attachment goes... I had other yellow 
tape in other palces but they wore off.. Now I searching the manual 
again for where the mic was (no entry in index for mic) and found it. 
Yes yes I had covered it with tape .. all is well. Wish I'd seen that 
before I did the vid when my visitors were here!


Stan led me to this by suggesting I might have covered it with my finger..

Yippy!

another discovery... got better results with Red River DS 60lb polar 
white paper on the R220 using the setting for premium lustre paper..


ann


On 10/16/2016 5:02 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Giving it the finger? that sounds like me... I'll do another test!

When I figure out where the mic input is...

thanks ,Stan and Larry


On 10/16/2016 4:09 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

See p171-172 of the manual

As Larry speculated, if you go into Rec Mode 4 menu, select Movie, 
then >  you will get to the Movie options. Scroll down, 3rd option is 
Sound, choices are On or Off. Default is On. So that shouldn’t be the 
issue. Maybe you had a finger covering the mic input?


I see no option for adjusting input sound level.

stan

On Oct 16, 2016, at 12:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I have all the "beeps" turned off.  but for movie mode I have the 
sound on, according to the settings...


John Coyle showed me how to take a vid ... easier to learn that way 
than theannoying manual.. however, when I played back my little 10 
second vid there was only a click click click sound,not our voices.


The canon P&S doesnt play sound loud enough to hear when I play back 
vid in camera, but no problem when the vid plays on youtube or my pc.


So I figured the sound would be heard when I uploaded.  Nope.. no 
sound...


Hope it isn't that my alert beeps are turned off

Is help on the way? DIdn't knwo it wouldn't play sound until after 
JOhn and JAn left... anticipating your question hehe


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Re: K-5 sound question

2016-10-16 Thread ann sanfedele

Giving it the finger? that sounds like me... I'll do another test!

When I figure out where the mic input is...

thanks ,Stan and Larry


On 10/16/2016 4:09 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

See p171-172 of the manual

As Larry speculated, if you go into Rec Mode 4 menu, select Movie, then >  you 
will get to the Movie options. Scroll down, 3rd option is Sound, choices are On or 
Off. Default is On. So that shouldn’t be the issue. Maybe you had a finger 
covering the mic input?

I see no option for adjusting input sound level.

stan

On Oct 16, 2016, at 12:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I have all the "beeps" turned off.  but for movie mode I have the sound on, 
according to the settings...

John Coyle showed me how to take a vid ... easier to learn that way than 
theannoying manual.. however, when I played back my little 10 second vid there 
was only a click click click sound,not our voices.

The canon P&S doesnt play sound loud enough to hear when I play back vid in 
camera, but no problem when the vid plays on youtube or my pc.

So I figured the sound would be heard when I uploaded.  Nope.. no sound...

Hope it isn't that my alert beeps are turned off

Is help on the way? DIdn't knwo it wouldn't play sound until after JOhn and JAn 
left... anticipating your question hehe

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Re: K-5 sound question

2016-10-16 Thread Stanley Halpin
See p171-172 of the manual

As Larry speculated, if you go into Rec Mode 4 menu, select Movie, then >  you 
will get to the Movie options. Scroll down, 3rd option is Sound, choices are On 
or Off. Default is On. So that shouldn’t be the issue. Maybe you had a finger 
covering the mic input?

I see no option for adjusting input sound level.

stan
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 12:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I have all the "beeps" turned off.  but for movie mode I have the sound on, 
> according to the settings...
> 
> John Coyle showed me how to take a vid ... easier to learn that way than 
> theannoying manual.. however, when I played back my little 10 second vid 
> there was only a click click click sound,not our voices.
> 
> The canon P&S doesnt play sound loud enough to hear when I play back vid in 
> camera, but no problem when the vid plays on youtube or my pc.
> 
> So I figured the sound would be heard when I uploaded.  Nope.. no sound...
> 
> Hope it isn't that my alert beeps are turned off
> 
> Is help on the way? DIdn't knwo it wouldn't play sound until after JOhn and 
> JAn left... anticipating your question hehe
> 
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Re: K-5 sound question

2016-10-16 Thread Larry Colen



ann sanfedele wrote:

I have all the "beeps" turned off. but for movie mode I have the sound
on, according to the settings...

John Coyle showed me how to take a vid ... easier to learn that way than
theannoying manual.. however, when I played back my little 10 second vid
there was only a click click click sound,not our voices.

The canon P&S doesnt play sound loud enough to hear when I play back vid
in camera, but no problem when the vid plays on youtube or my pc.

So I figured the sound would be heard when I uploaded. Nope.. no sound...

Hope it isn't that my alert beeps are turned off

Is help on the way? DIdn't knwo it wouldn't play sound until after JOhn
and JAn left... anticipating your question hehe


I have all of the beeps on my cameras turned off and they record sound 
in video mode.


There may be a menu option for recording level, and that might have been 
turned down.





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Re: K-5 high ISO - was USA PDML meetups

2016-10-14 Thread Larry Colen



Rick Womer wrote:

Larry, shooting RAW above 6400 I get noise I can't clean up in LR without 
losing too much detail.

Are you setting the camera at ISO 10k or 25.6k, or are you "underexposing" in 
the camera and pushing at post?


On both of those photos, I had the camera set for Tav. Sometimes, I'll 
underexpose a bit to preserve highlights.  I generally don't like to 
push too much past 6400 or 8000, but sometimes the results surprise me. 
I have lost many more photos from too low a shutter speed, or too little 
depth of field than I have from too high of an ISO.


In any case, my point was that he should experiment with it, and when he 
has the time to take a second try at the photo, give it a try at the 
higher ISO because if he's coming from an ist, then he just will not 
believe what the camera can really do.


In any case, we all have our own limits as to what we'll tolerate in 
terms of noise.  The when I was processing the shot of Jon, my first 
thought was that the noise on it was a little rough, and I wondered what 
ISO I was shooting at, I expected 8K not 25K.


As a side bit of internet history, the band he is playing with in that 
photo, Deth Specula, made internet history by being the first band to 
broadcast a concert live over the internet.





Rick


On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Christine Aguila wrote:

Sounds good!  I’ll put your numbers in my contact list.  I’ve sent some 
suggestions via our email thread off list.  Looking forward to meeting you 
guys!  Cheers, Christine

I have instructed John and Jan that they need to try pizza in both New York and 
Chicago.

BTW John, don't forget to push the ISO on your new K-5 way harder than you 
think is possible.  Take a photo at what you think is a reasonable ISO, then 
take it again using the shutter speed and/or aperture that you really want to 
use if only it were possible to get decent photos at ISO 6400 to 16,000.

for example, this was shot at ISO 10,000
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9310682903/in/album-72157634684347823/

This is 25,600
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8366084507/in/album-72157632485855236/


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Re: K-5 high ISO - was USA PDML meetups

2016-10-14 Thread Rick Womer
Larry, shooting RAW above 6400 I get noise I can't clean up in LR without 
losing too much detail.

Are you setting the camera at ISO 10k or 25.6k, or are you "underexposing" in 
the camera and pushing at post?

Rick


On Oct 14, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> 
> Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Sounds good!  I’ll put your numbers in my contact list.  I’ve sent some 
>> suggestions via our email thread off list.  Looking forward to meeting you 
>> guys!  Cheers, Christine
> 
> I have instructed John and Jan that they need to try pizza in both New York 
> and Chicago.
> 
> BTW John, don't forget to push the ISO on your new K-5 way harder than you 
> think is possible.  Take a photo at what you think is a reasonable ISO, then 
> take it again using the shutter speed and/or aperture that you really want to 
> use if only it were possible to get decent photos at ISO 6400 to 16,000.
> 
> for example, this was shot at ISO 10,000
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9310682903/in/album-72157634684347823/
> 
> This is 25,600
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8366084507/in/album-72157632485855236/
> 
> Also, don't be afraid to try to push on the SR at low shutter speeds. You 
> wouldn't think that you could hand hold below 1/10 second and get away with 
> it, but if you brace yourself well the K-5 can get a reasonable percentage of 
> clear shots down to 0.3 seconds hand held.
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:24 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi guys - well, we're here!  Arrived San Francisco this afternoon,
>>> frazzled after 18 hours travelling.
>>> 
>>> Picked up cell phones straight away, the numbers are:
>>> 
>>> Me - 415-910-0406
>>> 
>>> Jan - just in case - 415-960-4968
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John in San Francisco (was in Brisbane)
>>> 
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Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-22 Thread Alan C
Do you leave the adaptors in the camera/card reader and just swap the 
micro-SD's? I use Transcend adaptors with micro-SD's because they are 
cheaper. I actually stick the Micro-SD's into the adaptors with superglue.


Alan C

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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:28 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

I have a couple of ways to go, but most likely will start with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SD-card-holder-BLUE/dp/B006J73RAI/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1413903974&sr=8-9&keywords=sd+holder

Careful cutting of the full size SD portion,
and two or three units of the microSD portion (maybe)

Glue the full size SD holder to the top of the SD holder on the BG4 7.2
lithium holder
... there is not enough clearance for mounting on the bottom. Trimming
and spacing
likely necessary to insure access to both cards (likely will have to
remove top card to
access bottom, or space for fingernail access)

Alternately, mount the portion with two or three microSD holders on top,
fed from side,
with enough clearance to access the full size holder, which could then
hold a microSD adapter
(a microSD card can live in the adapter, of course).

I have some other SD holders to play with too, if the SDcardholder.com
one doesn't work out ...
I am a sucker for Radio Shack discontinued merchandise.

If the project goes smoothly enough, I could stack both ... there is
plenty of clearance on top
of the SD holder in the BG4 grip.  I have an aftermarket grip and it's
holders to play with,
so I won't destroy the Pentax one (when I thought AA rechargeables would
work in the grip,
I envisioned two swappable sets of AAs, and wire the aftermarket BG4
base to be a charging station)

For now, the second spare SD card is taped with half inch electrical
tape on top of the grip's holder.

I may have time to play with this in the second half of November.



On 10/21/2014 10:02 AM, Alan C wrote:

Interesting. I had continual battery dramas with my K110D.

Please explain the SD part in more detail. (Off list if you like).

Alan C

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To: pdml@pdml.net
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From: "Kevin Thornsberry" 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:09:35 -0500



That's the combo I finally hit on ...  I like having the extra SD
card (and actually have two, the second a microSD adapter and card,
taped on top ...  and plans to glue a second SD socket, scavanged
from a multi-socket SD card holder, piggybacking under the one in holder.
I may add a third on top if room.)

With AAs, I have not had good results either ... I think it is a
voltage droop issue ... alkalines don't work well for long, NiMH
work better, but a short life.  I carry the AA holder with 6 lithiums
to use as a emergency backup (rides in a compact camera case on my
Galen Rowell chest/belt pouch).  I suspect the AA holder would work
well with lihium AAs, but with the extra 7.2 volt rechargables,
I've never needed it.

In use, I tend to keep my eye on the grip state of charge, and
change the grip 7.2v battery when it gets low, it is so easy to
carry a spare or two.  This way, the body battery acts as  my
first line backup (and hopefully if I amy persistant I don't have
to take the grip off the camera to  charge/change the body battery)
and the lithium AAs are the final backup for a long time away from
charging (The lithiums can backup the flash AAs as well)





Serendipity Rocks!!!

This is funny.  I already have an extra 7.2v battery.  For some reason, I
thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs.

I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7.  At that time I used 
it

with AAs and didn't have a problem.  A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 with
intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with it 
even
though I never use it.  I've been charging both batteries and carrying 
one

in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip.  Why the grip stopped
working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it and 
it

seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip.
Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was 
still

in the plastic.  Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was pleasantly
reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card.

If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and 
grip

would already be en route to their repair facility.

Thanks.

--
Kevin

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
If you&#

Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-21 Thread Richard Dell

I have a couple of ways to go, but most likely will start with this:
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SD-card-holder-BLUE/dp/B006J73RAI/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1413903974&sr=8-9&keywords=sd+holder

Careful cutting of the full size SD portion,
and two or three units of the microSD portion (maybe)

Glue the full size SD holder to the top of the SD holder on the BG4 7.2 
lithium holder
... there is not enough clearance for mounting on the bottom. Trimming 
and spacing
likely necessary to insure access to both cards (likely will have to 
remove top card to

access bottom, or space for fingernail access)

Alternately, mount the portion with two or three microSD holders on top, 
fed from side,
with enough clearance to access the full size holder, which could then 
hold a microSD adapter

(a microSD card can live in the adapter, of course).

I have some other SD holders to play with too, if the SDcardholder.com 
one doesn't work out ...

I am a sucker for Radio Shack discontinued merchandise.

If the project goes smoothly enough, I could stack both ... there is 
plenty of clearance on top
of the SD holder in the BG4 grip.  I have an aftermarket grip and it's 
holders to play with,
so I won't destroy the Pentax one (when I thought AA rechargeables would 
work in the grip,
I envisioned two swappable sets of AAs, and wire the aftermarket BG4 
base to be a charging station)


For now, the second spare SD card is taped with half inch electrical 
tape on top of the grip's holder.


I may have time to play with this in the second half of November.



On 10/21/2014 10:02 AM, Alan C wrote:

Interesting. I had continual battery dramas with my K110D.

Please explain the SD part in more detail. (Off list if you like).

Alan C

-Original Message- From: rd...@jordancrk.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:50 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair


From: "Kevin Thornsberry" 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:09:35 -0500



That's the combo I finally hit on ...  I like having the extra SD
card (and actually have two, the second a microSD adapter and card,
taped on top ...  and plans to glue a second SD socket, scavanged
from a multi-socket SD card holder, piggybacking under the one in holder.
I may add a third on top if room.)

With AAs, I have not had good results either ... I think it is a
voltage droop issue ... alkalines don't work well for long, NiMH
work better, but a short life.  I carry the AA holder with 6 lithiums
to use as a emergency backup (rides in a compact camera case on my
Galen Rowell chest/belt pouch).  I suspect the AA holder would work
well with lihium AAs, but with the extra 7.2 volt rechargables,
I've never needed it.

In use, I tend to keep my eye on the grip state of charge, and
change the grip 7.2v battery when it gets low, it is so easy to
carry a spare or two.  This way, the body battery acts as  my
first line backup (and hopefully if I amy persistant I don't have
to take the grip off the camera to  charge/change the body battery)
and the lithium AAs are the final backup for a long time away from
charging (The lithiums can backup the flash AAs as well)





Serendipity Rocks!!!

This is funny.  I already have an extra 7.2v battery.  For some 
reason, I

thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs.

I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7.  At that time I 
used it
with AAs and didn't have a problem.  A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 
with
intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with 
it even
though I never use it.  I've been charging both batteries and 
carrying one

in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip.  Why the grip stopped
working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it 
and it

seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip.
Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was 
still
in the plastic.  Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was 
pleasantly

reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card.

If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and 
grip

would already be en route to their repair facility.

Thanks.

--
Kevin

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery 
out of
the camera.  If you want to be able to switch between the camera and 
grip

battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip.


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
> (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
>
> I?m

Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-21 Thread Alan C

Interesting. I had continual battery dramas with my K110D.

Please explain the SD part in more detail. (Off list if you like).

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: rd...@jordancrk.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:50 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair


From: "Kevin Thornsberry" 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:09:35 -0500



That's the combo I finally hit on ...  I like having the extra SD
card (and actually have two, the second a microSD adapter and card,
taped on top ...  and plans to glue a second SD socket, scavanged
from a multi-socket SD card holder, piggybacking under the one in holder.
I may add a third on top if room.)

With AAs, I have not had good results either ... I think it is a
voltage droop issue ... alkalines don't work well for long, NiMH
work better, but a short life.  I carry the AA holder with 6 lithiums
to use as a emergency backup (rides in a compact camera case on my
Galen Rowell chest/belt pouch).  I suspect the AA holder would work
well with lihium AAs, but with the extra 7.2 volt rechargables,
I've never needed it.

In use, I tend to keep my eye on the grip state of charge, and
change the grip 7.2v battery when it gets low, it is so easy to
carry a spare or two.  This way, the body battery acts as  my
first line backup (and hopefully if I amy persistant I don't have
to take the grip off the camera to  charge/change the body battery)
and the lithium AAs are the final backup for a long time away from
charging (The lithiums can backup the flash AAs as well)





Serendipity Rocks!!!

This is funny.  I already have an extra 7.2v battery.  For some reason, I
thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs.

I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7.  At that time I used 
it

with AAs and didn't have a problem.  A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 with
intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with it 
even

though I never use it.  I've been charging both batteries and carrying one
in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip.  Why the grip stopped
working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it and 
it

seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip.
Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was 
still

in the plastic.  Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was pleasantly
reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card.

If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and grip
would already be en route to their repair facility.

Thanks.

--
Kevin

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery out of
the camera.  If you want to be able to switch between the camera and grip
battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip.


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
> (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
>
> I?m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.? Even with a fully charged
> battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera
> reports near or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if
> I select ?Body First.??? I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set
> the camera to ?Grip First.?
>
> I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is
> the camera.
>
> The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the
> camera/grip combo for several days with no issues.
>
> Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn?t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer
> services Pentax.? Having read recent reports of extended repair delays
> and mixed results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route
> as long as my camera is usable.
>
> Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional
> experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Kevin
>
>
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Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-21 Thread rdell
> From: "Kevin Thornsberry" 
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:09:35 -0500
>

That's the combo I finally hit on ...  I like having the extra SD
card (and actually have two, the second a microSD adapter and card,
taped on top ...  and plans to glue a second SD socket, scavanged
from a multi-socket SD card holder, piggybacking under the one in holder.
I may add a third on top if room.)

With AAs, I have not had good results either ... I think it is a
voltage droop issue ... alkalines don't work well for long, NiMH
work better, but a short life.  I carry the AA holder with 6 lithiums
to use as a emergency backup (rides in a compact camera case on my
Galen Rowell chest/belt pouch).  I suspect the AA holder would work
well with lihium AAs, but with the extra 7.2 volt rechargables,
I've never needed it.

In use, I tend to keep my eye on the grip state of charge, and
change the grip 7.2v battery when it gets low, it is so easy to
carry a spare or two.  This way, the body battery acts as  my
first line backup (and hopefully if I amy persistant I don't have
to take the grip off the camera to  charge/change the body battery)
and the lithium AAs are the final backup for a long time away from
charging (The lithiums can backup the flash AAs as well)




> Serendipity Rocks!!!
>
> This is funny.  I already have an extra 7.2v battery.  For some reason, I
> thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs.
>
> I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7.  At that time I used it
> with AAs and didn't have a problem.  A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 with
> intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with it even
> though I never use it.  I've been charging both batteries and carrying one
> in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip.  Why the grip stopped
> working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it and it
> seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip.
> Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was still
> in the plastic.  Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was pleasantly
> reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card.
>
> If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and grip
> would already be en route to their repair facility.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
>
> My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
> If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery out of
> the camera.  If you want to be able to switch between the camera and grip
> battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
> > (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
> > 
> > I?m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.? Even with a fully charged 
> > battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera 
> > reports near or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if 
> > I select ?Body First.??? I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set 
> > the camera to ?Grip First.?
> > 
> > I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is 
> > the camera.
> > 
> > The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the 
> > camera/grip combo for several days with no issues.
> > 
> > Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn?t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer 
> > services Pentax.? Having read recent reports of extended repair delays 
> > and mixed results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route 
> > as long as my camera is usable.
> > 
> > Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional 
> > experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
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Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-21 Thread Zos Xavius
I wouldn't worry about precision too much. MY last experience with
CRIS was awful, so I can only hope my next repair goes smoother. The
people that are unhappy are usually the loudest...

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Kevin Thornsberry
 wrote:
> Serendipity Rocks!!!
>
> This is funny.  I already have an extra 7.2v battery.  For some reason, I
> thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs.
>
> I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7.  At that time I used it
> with AAs and didn't have a problem.  A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 with
> intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with it even
> though I never use it.  I've been charging both batteries and carrying one
> in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip.  Why the grip stopped
> working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it and it
> seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip.
> Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was still
> in the plastic.  Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was pleasantly
> reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card.
>
> If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and grip
> would already be en route to their repair facility.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Kevin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair
>
> My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
> If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery out of
> the camera.  If you want to be able to switch between the camera and grip
> battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
>> (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
>>
>> I?m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.? Even with a fully charged
>> battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera
>> reports near or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if
>> I select ?Body First.??? I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set
>> the camera to ?Grip First.?
>>
>> I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is
>> the camera.
>>
>> The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the
>> camera/grip combo for several days with no issues.
>>
>> Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn?t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer
>> services Pentax.? Having read recent reports of extended repair delays
>> and mixed results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route
>> as long as my camera is usable.
>>
>> Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional
>> experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
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RE: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-20 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
Serendipity Rocks!!!

This is funny.  I already have an extra 7.2v battery.  For some reason, I
thought the BG-4 needed 2 x 7.2v batteries so I always used it with AAs.

I got the BG-4 several years ago to use with my K-7.  At that time I used it
with AAs and didn't have a problem.  A few yrs later, I bought a K-5 with
intent of selling the K-7 but never could bring myself to part with it even
though I never use it.  I've been charging both batteries and carrying one
in my pocket while still using AAs in the grip.  Why the grip stopped
working so suddenly with AAs I don't understand but I just tested it and it
seems to work just fine with the extra 7.2v Li-ion in the grip.
Fortunately, I had kept the box for the grip and the 7.2v carrier was still
in the plastic.  Also, when I pulled out the 7.2 carrier I was pleasantly
reminded that it has a place for an extra sd card.

If I hadn't read all the bad reviews of Precision Camera, the K-5 and grip
would already be en route to their repair facility.

Thanks.

--
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-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:06 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery out of
the camera.  If you want to be able to switch between the camera and grip
battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip.


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
> (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
> 
> I?m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.? Even with a fully charged 
> battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera 
> reports near or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if 
> I select ?Body First.??? I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set 
> the camera to ?Grip First.?
> 
> I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is 
> the camera.
> 
> The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the 
> camera/grip combo for several days with no issues.
> 
> Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn?t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer 
> services Pentax.? Having read recent reports of extended repair delays 
> and mixed results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route 
> as long as my camera is usable.
> 
> Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional 
> experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-20 Thread John Francis
My advice - don't mix-and-match AAs with the regular in-camera battery.
If you're going to use AAs in the grip, then take the other battery out
of the camera.  If you want to be able to switch between the camera and
grip battery, then get another 7.2V lithium battery to use in the grip.


On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 09:50:44PM -0500, Kevin Thornsberry wrote:
> (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
> 
> I?m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.? Even with a fully charged
> battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera reports near
> or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if I select ?Body
> First.??? I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set the camera to ?Grip
> First.?
> 
> I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is the
> camera.
> 
> The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the
> camera/grip combo for several days with no issues.
> 
> Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn?t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer services
> Pentax.? Having read recent reports of extended repair delays and mixed
> results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route as long as my
> camera is usable.
> 
> Any advice on my K-5/BG-4 issues, other repair options or additional
> experience with Precision Camera would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: K-5/BG-4 Grip Repair

2014-10-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Never had any luck with AAs in the battery grip.
The K-5 needs the 9 volt lithium.
Buy some aftermarket ones.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Kevin Thornsberry
 wrote:
> (Repost in plain text.  Sorry if this generates a duplicate)
>
> I’m having problems with my K-5/BG-4 combo.  Even with a fully charged
> battery in the camera and brand new AAs in the grip, the camera reports near
> or full depletion, however it appears to remain usable if I select “Body
> First.”   I reports depleted and dies rapidly if I set the camera to “Grip
> First.”
>
> I have tested the grip on my K-7 with no problems so I assume it is the
> camera.
>
> The problem started suddenly on a recent trip where I had used the
> camera/grip combo for several days with no issues.
>
> Sadly Eric Hendrickson doesn’t do digital bodies and CRIS no longer services
> Pentax.  Having read recent reports of extended repair delays and mixed
> results at Precision Camera, I am hesitant to go that route as long as my
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-20 Thread Stanley Halpin
Every secant society has its own rules.

On Mar 18, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> We do it cos we can.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:
>> Yep, it's a sine of this list.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Rick Womer 
>> 
>>> Subject: Re: K-5 10K
>>> 
>>> The tangents of which this group is capable never cease to amaze...
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -----
>>> From: Brian Walters 
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: K-5 10K
>>> 
>>> Quoting Bob W-PDML :
>>> 
>>>> On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer"  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned
>>>>> off (which I always do).
>>>> 
>>>> You must be from Florida.
>>>> 
>>>> http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That sounds remarkably like a plot from a Carl Hiaasen novel...
>>> 
>>> http://www.carlhiaasen.com/book-detail.shtml?bid=1
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> ++
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Bruce Walker
We do it cos we can.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:
> Yep, it's a sine of this list.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Rick Womer 
>
>>Subject: Re: K-5 10K
>>
>>The tangents of which this group is capable never cease to amaze...
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Brian Walters 
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Cc:
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: K-5 10K
>>
>>Quoting Bob W-PDML :
>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned
>>>> off (which I always do).
>>>
>>> You must be from Florida.
>>>
>>> http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html
>>
>>
>>That sounds remarkably like a plot from a Carl Hiaasen novel...
>>
>>http://www.carlhiaasen.com/book-detail.shtml?bid=1
>>
>>
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
Yep, it's a sine of this list.


-Original Message-
>From: Rick Womer 

>Subject: Re: K-5 10K
>
>The tangents of which this group is capable never cease to amaze...
> 
>Rick
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Brian Walters 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Cc: 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:26 PM
>Subject: Re: K-5 10K
>
>Quoting Bob W-PDML :
>
>> On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned  
>>> off (which I always do).
>>
>> You must be from Florida.
>>
>> http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html
>
>
>That sounds remarkably like a plot from a Carl Hiaasen novel...
>
>http://www.carlhiaasen.com/book-detail.shtml?bid=1
>
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RE: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Bob W
Well, you know, I don't know what America's coming to. They missed an open
goal with that auto-chimping legislation. The chimp could not be tried
because it is an animal. Since humans can be tried, we must assume that
humans are not animals. That in itself should have drawn some attention from
the biologists, who ought to have opposed the judgement (to say nothing of
the humanhood of the great apes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Ape_Project). Of course, as soon as the
biologists claim that we are animals, the fruitcake wing of the Christians
must jump in to oppose them. 

The ideal result would be a law enacted that allowed nematode worms to drive
without a licence, but required humans to have a licence to drive.  

B

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer
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> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: K-5 10K
> 
> Quoting Bob W-PDML :
> 
> > On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned off
> >> (which I always do).
> >
> > You must be from Florida.
> >
> > http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html
> 
> 
> That sounds remarkably like a plot from a Carl Hiaasen novel...
> 
> http://www.carlhiaasen.com/book-detail.shtml?bid=1
> 
> 
> --
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> 
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
The tangents of which this group is capable never cease to amaze...
 
Rick


- Original Message -
From: Brian Walters 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: K-5 10K

Quoting Bob W-PDML :

> On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer"  wrote:
>>
>> Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned  
>> off (which I always do).
>
> You must be from Florida.
>
> http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html


That sounds remarkably like a plot from a Carl Hiaasen novel...

http://www.carlhiaasen.com/book-detail.shtml?bid=1


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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread David Parsons
I have been saying this for years, and everyone poo-poos me for the
advice.  Shoot in color, they said.  Convert in post, they said.
Pshaw, see in B&W, when you are shooting in B&W, especially when you
have an EVF.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to visit 
> the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it interesting after 
> the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:
>
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html
>
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W-PDML :


On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer"  wrote:


Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned  
off (which I always do).


You must be from Florida.

http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html



That sounds remarkably like a plot from a Carl Hiaasen novel...

http://www.carlhiaasen.com/book-detail.shtml?bid=1


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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 18 Mar 2014, at 12:57, "Rick Womer"  wrote:
> 
> Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned off (which 
> I always do).  

You must be from Florida.

http://anthrozine.com/stry/new.york.versus.great.ape.html

B

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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Bruce Walker
That's good to know about, if I was ever tempted; unlikely though. I
do everything I can to keep the camera speed high, including turning
off the rear LCD so it doesn't waste time making previews (or flash
bright crap in my eye while framing the next shot). The only feature I
have enabled is the dual-card-write redundancy, but it doesn't slow it
down enough for me to notice.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> My problem was that it was an experienced model who is also a dancer
> so I was literally missing opportunities! I couldn't believe how much
> is slows the camera down.
>
>
>
> On 18 March 2014 21:36, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
>> Yes - it's not a fast process by any stretch of the imagination, but
>> it hasn't bothered me too much yet. Probably says more about me than
>> the process though... :-)
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>
>> On 18 March 2014 21:11, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>>> I did just this with my K3 the other day during a studio shoot and the
>>> time it took to convert to B&W on-the-fly was longer than it took for
>>> the studio strobes to recharge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 March 2014 18:54, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
 On 18 March 2014 08:00, Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to 
> visit the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it 
> interesting after the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:
>
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html
>
>
> So I pulled out the K-5 somewhere between New York and Stamford CT, and 
> began seeing if I could get a monochrome image on the back display while 
> shooting RAW+. Nope. For that matter, the Monochrome filter the owners' 
> manual talks about doesn't seem to exist.
>
> So I gave up; but noticed that the last image was 101-0003. Not much 
> compared to the likes of Paul and Larry, but a landmark anyway. I've had 
> the K-5 for 1 year and 10 months.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick

 Hi Rick,

 I saw this too and managed to get it to work on my K5.

 To do it, make sure the file format is set to RAW+jpeg.  Then, using
 the right-hand-side button in the cluster of 4 around the OK button,
 select the monochrome filter.  This makes the jpeg monochrome; the
 preview image is that jpeg. And, of course, you still have the RAW
 image.

 I've got these settings programmed in to one of the user modes so I
 can switch in and out as I desire.

 Hope this helps.

 Ciao,

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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Rick Womer
Just tried it--works very nicely, if you have "auto-chimp" turned off (which I 
always do).  

Rick
 
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- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: K-5 10K

I did just this with my K3 the other day during a studio shoot and the
time it took to convert to B&W on-the-fly was longer than it took for
the studio strobes to recharge.



On 18 March 2014 18:54, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
> On 18 March 2014 08:00, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>
>> I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to visit 
>> the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it interesting 
>> after the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:
>>
>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html
>>
>>
>> So I pulled out the K-5 somewhere between New York and Stamford CT, and 
>> began seeing if I could get a monochrome image on the back display while 
>> shooting RAW+. Nope. For that matter, the Monochrome filter the owners' 
>> manual talks about doesn't seem to exist.
>>
>> So I gave up; but noticed that the last image was 101-0003. Not much 
>> compared to the likes of Paul and Larry, but a landmark anyway. I've had the 
>> K-5 for 1 year and 10 months.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rick
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I saw this too and managed to get it to work on my K5.
>
> To do it, make sure the file format is set to RAW+jpeg.  Then, using
> the right-hand-side button in the cluster of 4 around the OK button,
> select the monochrome filter.  This makes the jpeg monochrome; the
> preview image is that jpeg. And, of course, you still have the RAW
> image.
>
> I've got these settings programmed in to one of the user modes so I
> can switch in and out as I desire.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Rob Studdert
My problem was that it was an experienced model who is also a dancer
so I was literally missing opportunities! I couldn't believe how much
is slows the camera down.



On 18 March 2014 21:36, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
> Yes - it's not a fast process by any stretch of the imagination, but
> it hasn't bothered me too much yet. Probably says more about me than
> the process though... :-)
>
> Ciao,
>
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>
> On 18 March 2014 21:11, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>> I did just this with my K3 the other day during a studio shoot and the
>> time it took to convert to B&W on-the-fly was longer than it took for
>> the studio strobes to recharge.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 March 2014 18:54, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
>>> On 18 March 2014 08:00, Rick Womer  wrote:

 I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to 
 visit the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it 
 interesting after the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:

 http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html


 So I pulled out the K-5 somewhere between New York and Stamford CT, and 
 began seeing if I could get a monochrome image on the back display while 
 shooting RAW+. Nope. For that matter, the Monochrome filter the owners' 
 manual talks about doesn't seem to exist.

 So I gave up; but noticed that the last image was 101-0003. Not much 
 compared to the likes of Paul and Larry, but a landmark anyway. I've had 
 the K-5 for 1 year and 10 months.

 Cheers,

 Rick
>>>
>>> Hi Rick,
>>>
>>> I saw this too and managed to get it to work on my K5.
>>>
>>> To do it, make sure the file format is set to RAW+jpeg.  Then, using
>>> the right-hand-side button in the cluster of 4 around the OK button,
>>> select the monochrome filter.  This makes the jpeg monochrome; the
>>> preview image is that jpeg. And, of course, you still have the RAW
>>> image.
>>>
>>> I've got these settings programmed in to one of the user modes so I
>>> can switch in and out as I desire.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>
>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>>
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Peter McIntosh
Yes - it's not a fast process by any stretch of the imagination, but
it hasn't bothered me too much yet. Probably says more about me than
the process though... :-)

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

On 18 March 2014 21:11, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> I did just this with my K3 the other day during a studio shoot and the
> time it took to convert to B&W on-the-fly was longer than it took for
> the studio strobes to recharge.
>
>
>
> On 18 March 2014 18:54, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
>> On 18 March 2014 08:00, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>>
>>> I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to visit 
>>> the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it interesting 
>>> after the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:
>>>
>>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html
>>>
>>>
>>> So I pulled out the K-5 somewhere between New York and Stamford CT, and 
>>> began seeing if I could get a monochrome image on the back display while 
>>> shooting RAW+. Nope. For that matter, the Monochrome filter the owners' 
>>> manual talks about doesn't seem to exist.
>>>
>>> So I gave up; but noticed that the last image was 101-0003. Not much 
>>> compared to the likes of Paul and Larry, but a landmark anyway. I've had 
>>> the K-5 for 1 year and 10 months.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rick
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> I saw this too and managed to get it to work on my K5.
>>
>> To do it, make sure the file format is set to RAW+jpeg.  Then, using
>> the right-hand-side button in the cluster of 4 around the OK button,
>> select the monochrome filter.  This makes the jpeg monochrome; the
>> preview image is that jpeg. And, of course, you still have the RAW
>> image.
>>
>> I've got these settings programmed in to one of the user modes so I
>> can switch in and out as I desire.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Rob Studdert
I did just this with my K3 the other day during a studio shoot and the
time it took to convert to B&W on-the-fly was longer than it took for
the studio strobes to recharge.



On 18 March 2014 18:54, Peter McIntosh  wrote:
> On 18 March 2014 08:00, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>
>> I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to visit 
>> the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it interesting 
>> after the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:
>>
>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html
>>
>>
>> So I pulled out the K-5 somewhere between New York and Stamford CT, and 
>> began seeing if I could get a monochrome image on the back display while 
>> shooting RAW+. Nope. For that matter, the Monochrome filter the owners' 
>> manual talks about doesn't seem to exist.
>>
>> So I gave up; but noticed that the last image was 101-0003. Not much 
>> compared to the likes of Paul and Larry, but a landmark anyway. I've had the 
>> K-5 for 1 year and 10 months.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rick
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I saw this too and managed to get it to work on my K5.
>
> To do it, make sure the file format is set to RAW+jpeg.  Then, using
> the right-hand-side button in the cluster of 4 around the OK button,
> select the monochrome filter.  This makes the jpeg monochrome; the
> preview image is that jpeg. And, of course, you still have the RAW
> image.
>
> I've got these settings programmed in to one of the user modes so I
> can switch in and out as I desire.
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> Hope this helps.
>
> Ciao,
>
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Re: K-5 10K

2014-03-18 Thread Peter McIntosh
On 18 March 2014 08:00, Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> I took the train this morning from snowy Philly to sunny New Haven to visit 
> the aged mater.  I had read this piece on TOP, and found it interesting after 
> the long discussions of Bob W's Leica MM yearning:
>
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2014/03/getting-into-the-bw-mindset.html
>
>
> So I pulled out the K-5 somewhere between New York and Stamford CT, and began 
> seeing if I could get a monochrome image on the back display while shooting 
> RAW+. Nope. For that matter, the Monochrome filter the owners' manual talks 
> about doesn't seem to exist.
>
> So I gave up; but noticed that the last image was 101-0003. Not much compared 
> to the likes of Paul and Larry, but a landmark anyway. I've had the K-5 for 1 
> year and 10 months.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick

Hi Rick,

I saw this too and managed to get it to work on my K5.

To do it, make sure the file format is set to RAW+jpeg.  Then, using
the right-hand-side button in the cluster of 4 around the OK button,
select the monochrome filter.  This makes the jpeg monochrome; the
preview image is that jpeg. And, of course, you still have the RAW
image.

I've got these settings programmed in to one of the user modes so I
can switch in and out as I desire.

Hope this helps.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Boris Liberman

On 11/13/2013 10:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don't know that this proves anything. But Boris asked to see these
in support of my contention that I have been able to salvage blown
out highlights on K-5 RAW files. Shot this pic at high noon from a
ladder with the sun overhead. Didn't bother to think that the dash
was shaded and the almost white seats were ablaze with light. Don't
know what the difference was in stops, but it had to be considerable,
probably in excess of 14. In any case I had to work with the RAW
rendering and subsequent dodging and burning, but I salvaged a pic
that ended up in the magazine. A reshoot was not in the cards, as the
car and its owner were long gone before I saw how bad I had failed
here. One of these id the RAW opened with the default settings and
saved as a jpeg. The other is the tweaked final image. Not hard to
tell them apart.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598155&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598156&size=lg


Paul



As always, you impress me, Paul. May I ask you to give me a RAW file of
this (or similar, should you be prevented from being able to do so) 
photograph so that I could try to process it with my tools?


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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Mark C
That's a good example, Paul. Running the PS eye dropper over the seats 
almost all pixels have channel values of less than 255 - they are close, 
above 250, but not 100% blown out. As you demonstrate, even that little 
bit of a difference make it possible to salvage the highlights. If all 
three channels were at 255 all that could be done would be to make the 
pure white a shade of grey. (If you clip the histogram in the levels 
tool so the seats are pegged at 255-255-255 (8 bit per channel file, of 
course) recovery is then impossible.) Looking in levels again - there 
really is very little clipping of the histogram at either the high end 
or low end, so you actually nailed the shot well enough to have a 
recoverable image.


Mark

On 11/13/2013 3:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don't know that this proves anything. But Boris asked to see these in support 
of my contention that I have been able to salvage blown out highlights on K-5 
RAW files. Shot this pic at high noon from a ladder with the sun overhead. 
Didn't bother to think that the dash was shaded and the almost white seats were 
ablaze with light. Don't know what the difference was in stops, but it had to 
be considerable, probably in excess of 14. In any case I had to work with the 
RAW rendering and subsequent dodging and burning, but I salvaged a pic that 
ended up in the magazine. A reshoot was not in the cards, as the car and its 
owner were long gone before I saw how bad I had failed here. One of these id 
the RAW opened with the default settings and saved as a jpeg. The other is the 
tweaked final image. Not hard to tell them apart.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598155&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17598156&size=lg


Paul



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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> You are apparently not following along in the other threads today. ;)

I have to earn a living.

> 
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>> And your point?
>> 
>> 
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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are you trying to deny Al his score?  :-)

Godfrey


> On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> And your point?
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> 
>> Chalk up another one for Al Gore.

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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Darren Addy
You are apparently not following along in the other threads today. ;)

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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
And your point?


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Re: K-5 Highlight save for Boris

2013-11-13 Thread Darren Addy
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks, Tan, BIll, and all of you -

Aahz actually wrote me off list with specific instructions :-)
but all of you chimed in "splaining" it to me

Glad it happened when it really didn't matter

ann

On 7/27/2013 21:15, Tanya Love wrote:

What Bill said!

Sent from my iPhone

On 27/07/2013, at 3:41 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 26/07/2013 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys

I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...

I have no idea what I've done...

Sounds like you've either mounted a non A series lens, or have moved the 
aperture ring off A on an A series lens.

bill


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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-27 Thread Tanya Love
What Bill said!

Sent from my iPhone

On 27/07/2013, at 3:41 PM, Bill  wrote:

> On 26/07/2013 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> 
>> Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys
>> 
>> I've been shooting for several days no problem...
>> suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
>> that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
>> i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
>> the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
>> shows an image of the green button.
>> 
>> The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...
>> 
>> I have no idea what I've done...
> Sounds like you've either mounted a non A series lens, or have moved the 
> aperture ring off A on an A series lens.
> 
> bill
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Bill

On 26/07/2013 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys

I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...

I have no idea what I've done...
Sounds like you've either mounted a non A series lens, or have moved the 
aperture ring off A on an A series lens.


bill


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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP! (got help)

2013-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele

my hero!

yup that did it!

Posting this publicly  - since it worked... just as you said...

now I can sleep  phew!

thanks much

ann


On 7/26/2013 23:03, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...


Guessing here so you have a fast response:

* Turn camera off, pull battery
* Take lens off, put on different lens
* Turn camera back on

If that works, repeat process to put back first lens.  If that fails,
you have a lens problem (someone else posted about a failing lens doing
that recently).  If it works, you either have a glitchy lens or a weak
connection due to a slight misalignment of the mount, hopefully it won't
recur if you ensure a good lock.



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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ann,
Put the original lens you were using on the camera,
or put the lens back to the A aperture setting.
We don't use the aperture ring on the K-5 unless you've set-up for it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>
>> I've been shooting for several days no problem...
>> suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
>> that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
>> i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
>> the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
>> shows an image of the green button.
>>
>> The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...
>
> Guessing here so you have a fast response:
>
> * Turn camera off, pull battery
> * Take lens off, put on different lens
> * Turn camera back on
>
> If that works, repeat process to put back first lens.  If that fails,
> you have a lens problem (someone else posted about a failing lens doing
> that recently).  If it works, you either have a glitchy lens or a weak
> connection due to a slight misalignment of the mount, hopefully it won't
> recur if you ensure a good lock.
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Zos Xavius
If you ask me it sounds like the lens isn't communicating with the
body. Did you try cleaning all the contacts? If it has an aperture
ring also try rotating off A and back. Since its not reading the lens
type and focal length, I'm guessing its just not talking. I don't know
if the electronics go bad in them. I've gotten an 18-55 so wet that my
camera wouldn't recognize it once and it dried out and was fine
eventually. Also try another lens if you haven't already.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
> Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys
>
> I've been shooting for several days no problem...
> suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
> that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
> i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
> the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
> shows an image of the green button.
>
> The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...
>
> I have no idea what I've done...
>
> on the first screen when I press menu  the first 4 lines of info is bright
> white  the 'lens Correction" is grey.
>
> I'm thinking I got in trouble fooling around with that but I cant
> get there now.
>
> anyone?
>
> ann
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-26 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> I've been shooting for several days no problem...
> suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
> that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
> i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
> the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
> shows an image of the green button.
> 
> The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...

Guessing here so you have a fast response:

* Turn camera off, pull battery
* Take lens off, put on different lens
* Turn camera back on

If that works, repeat process to put back first lens.  If that fails,
you have a lens problem (someone else posted about a failing lens doing
that recently).  If it works, you either have a glitchy lens or a weak
connection due to a slight misalignment of the mount, hopefully it won't
recur if you ensure a good lock.
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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-18 Thread kwaller

Mine seem to take about 4-5 hours but we have slow electricity in
these parts.


Its metric so its about 1.6 times slower.  :+)

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Subject: Re: K-5 battery charging time



Mine seem to take about 4-5 hours but we have slow electricity in
these parts. I have left the batter in the charger for extended time,
3-4 hours after the light has gone out with no side effects, so far,

Dave

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it is 
fully

charged?

Camera came with charged battery...
I jsut got the spare and am charging it.

any problem if I forgot to take it off the charger and let it charge
overnight?

ann



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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-18 Thread David J Brooks
Mine seem to take about 4-5 hours but we have slow electricity in
these parts. I have left the batter in the charger for extended time,
3-4 hours after the light has gone out with no side effects, so far,

Dave

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it is fully
> charged?
>
> Camera came with charged battery...
> I jsut got the spare and am charging it.
>
> any problem if I forgot to take it off the charger and let it charge
> overnight?
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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-17 Thread Zos Xavius
I was told by a friend that leaving the battery on for extend periods
is bad because it trickles? I don't really understand that because it
should just shut the charger off and stay off as long as the battery
registers a charge, but he claimed that. Take it with a grain of salt.
Overnight shouldn't pose much problem. Quite honestly keeping lithium
ions at full charge all the time is a bad idea as they decrease in
capacity faster that way. Same goes for completely dead. My K-7
battery that was original to the camera doesn't last nearly as long
because I think that it may have had a few extended sessions in a dead
state. YMMV of course.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:16 PM, David Parsons  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:41:11PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>> HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it
>>> is fully charged?
>>
>> yes.
>>
>>>
>>> Camera came with charged battery...
>>
>> used camera?
>
> Mine came new with a nearly fully charged battery.
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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-17 Thread David Parsons
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:41:11PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it
>> is fully charged?
>
> yes.
>
>>
>> Camera came with charged battery...
>
> used camera?

Mine came new with a nearly fully charged battery.

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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-17 Thread Stan Halpin
Note that the conventional wisdom was that you shouldn't believe the Charged 
light on the charger; rather, leave the battery there for another 30-45 
minutes. I don't know if that ever made sense nor if it still applies, but I 
tend to be slow to take the charged battery off the charger.

stan

On Jul 17, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Thanks Larry and PJ - what I suspected but wanted to make sure.
> the charger for the 4 "AA"'s for the *istD took a reay long time
> 
> ann
> 
> On 7/17/2013 20:59, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:41:11PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>> HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it
>>> is fully charged?
>> 
>> yes.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Camera came with charged battery...
>> 
>> used camera?
>> 
>>> I jsut got the spare and am charging it.
>>> 
>>> any problem if I forgot to take it off the charger and let it charge
>>> overnight?
>> 
>> Nope, it will shut itself off when done.  It's best to charge a long time
>> the first time anyways.
>> 
>>> 
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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks Larry and PJ - what I suspected but wanted to make sure.
the charger for the 4 "AA"'s for the *istD took a reay long time

ann

On 7/17/2013 20:59, Larry Colen wrote:

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:41:11PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it
is fully charged?


yes.



Camera came with charged battery...


used camera?


I jsut got the spare and am charging it.

any problem if I forgot to take it off the charger and let it charge
overnight?


Nope, it will shut itself off when done.  It's best to charge a long time
the first time anyways.



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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-17 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:41:11PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it
> is fully charged?

yes.

> 
> Camera came with charged battery...

used camera?

> I jsut got the spare and am charging it.
> 
> any problem if I forgot to take it off the charger and let it charge
> overnight?

Nope, it will shut itself off when done.  It's best to charge a long time
the first time anyways.

> 
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Re: K-5 battery charging time

2013-07-17 Thread P.J. Alling
There should be no problem the battery is "smart" and communicates with 
the charger, once it's fully charged it will just turn off, well 
assuming there are no electrical faults in either battery or charger.  
Full charge from an almost empty battery should take no more than a 
couple of hours.


On 7/17/2013 8:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
HOw long should it take? I presume the green light goes off when it is 
fully charged?


Camera came with charged battery...
I jsut got the spare and am charging it.

any problem if I forgot to take it off the charger and let it charge 
overnight?


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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
ugh - sorry ... put that in the category with Dave's wondering about the 
shoeless blackbird.


ann

On 7/17/2013 00:03, P.J. Alling wrote:

You said you were going to shoot yourself, so what lens?

On 7/16/2013 10:20 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/16/2013 22:03, P.J. Alling wrote:

What lens?


that question is flying right over my head...

ann


On 7/14/2013 6:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Sounds good, and more than I'll need. IF I had to review 460 frames
after the event I'd shoot myself

ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.













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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-16 Thread P.J. Alling

You said you were going to shoot yourself, so what lens?

On 7/16/2013 10:20 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/16/2013 22:03, P.J. Alling wrote:

What lens?


that question is flying right over my head...

ann


On 7/14/2013 6:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Sounds good, and more than I'll need. IF I had to review 460 frames
after the event I'd shoot myself

ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.











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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/16/2013 22:03, P.J. Alling wrote:

What lens?


that question is flying right over my head...

ann


On 7/14/2013 6:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames
after the event I'd shoot myself

ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.








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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-16 Thread P.J. Alling

What lens?

On 7/14/2013 6:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames 
after the event I'd shoot myself


ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.






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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread John
I've found these to be very reliable. They're OEM'd under a whole bunch 
of names


http://www.amazon.com/computers-accessories/dp/B000Z9R2QQ

I get them from Tiger Direct for $4 each, but I'm shopping at the local 
retail outlet.


You can probably also find them at Target, Walgreens, Walmart, Big Lots 
or the like.


B&H has them OEM'd as Vivitar brand.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/811411-REG/Vivitar_VIV_CR_35_SD_Card_Reader.html

I don't know how convenient B&H is to where Ann lives.

On 7/15/2013 3:18 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 15, 2013, at 13:35 , Ann Sanfedele  wrote:




o ... :-(
guess not

well will try first batch from camera then
thanks, Gerrit - you saved me a lot of anghst



Yah, just use the USB cable and plug the camera right into the computer and 
you'll be good for now.

SDHC-compatible reader will set you back about $10 if you try hard.  Probably 
less if you have something magical like a MicroCenter or such nearby.

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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ah I see why I was confused... on the back it says JPG,
RAW (DNG), RAW+ (DNG)  - it doesn't say "+jpg" but RAW+ certainly worked

yayayay!

ann


On 7/15/2013 16:32, John Francis wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 03:39:08PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Yeah I plugged the camera in...

Only thing now is I don't seem to have software on my computer to
see the DNG thumbnails come up without clicking on them.

Can't find the thing on the camera that saves in both raw and jpg

ann


1)  push the "MENU" button; this brings up page 1 of the "capture" settings.

2)  use the 4-way controller (or the front dial) to move to the
 first entry - file format

3)  use the 4-way controller (or the rear dial) to move into the list
 of options, and then select the one that you want (RAW + JPEG)

4)  push "OK"


That sets RAW+JPEG to be the default.  You can also toggle through
the various options directly by pushing the "RAW" button (near the
lens mount) if you want to do something different for a few shots.




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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread kwaller
When I upgraded to SDHC cards, I had to get a new reader, the older Sandisk 
Card reader I had would not acknowledge the SDHC cards.


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- Original Message - 
From: "John" 

Subject: Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)



I've gotten that on a few occasions. It's usually one of a few things.

1. If you've got an older multi-function card reader, it might not read 
larger capacity SD cards. I ran in to that when I switched from the *ist-D 
CF cards to the K10D SD cards. SDHC cards hadn't been invented when I 
bought the multi-function reader I used with the *ist-D.


2. The SD card isn't completely seated in the slot. The computer is seeing 
the card reader, but not the card inserted in the reader.


3. USB is acting flaky & I can't tell you why.

Or Adobe downloader may not be up to the task.

On 7/15/2013 2:25 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Everything very user friendly... of course I've tried it out on Ashley...
Have a few pics to load, put card in card reader, put card reader in USB
port, clock adobe downloader.  doesn't recognize card.

I shot a couple of jpgs and a bunch of dngs...

I get "select device" in the adobe window

surely I'm missing something simple

anyone??

ann



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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread John

I've gotten that on a few occasions. It's usually one of a few things.

1. If you've got an older multi-function card reader, it might not read 
larger capacity SD cards. I ran in to that when I switched from the 
*ist-D CF cards to the K10D SD cards. SDHC cards hadn't been invented 
when I bought the multi-function reader I used with the *ist-D.


2. The SD card isn't completely seated in the slot. The computer is 
seeing the card reader, but not the card inserted in the reader.


3. USB is acting flaky & I can't tell you why.

Or Adobe downloader may not be up to the task.

On 7/15/2013 2:25 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Everything very user friendly... of course I've tried it out on Ashley...
Have a few pics to load, put card in card reader, put card reader in USB
port, clock adobe downloader.  doesn't recognize card.

I shot a couple of jpgs and a bunch of dngs...

I get "select device" in the adobe window

surely I'm missing something simple

anyone??

ann



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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 03:39:08PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> Yeah I plugged the camera in...
> 
> Only thing now is I don't seem to have software on my computer to
> see the DNG thumbnails come up without clicking on them.
> 
> Can't find the thing on the camera that saves in both raw and jpg
> 
> ann

1)  push the "MENU" button; this brings up page 1 of the "capture" settings.

2)  use the 4-way controller (or the front dial) to move to the
first entry - file format

3)  use the 4-way controller (or the rear dial) to move into the list
of options, and then select the one that you want (RAW + JPEG)

4)  push "OK"


That sets RAW+JPEG to be the default.  You can also toggle through
the various options directly by pushing the "RAW" button (near the
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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Yeah I plugged the camera in...

Only thing now is I don't seem to have software on my computer to see 
the DNG thumbnails come up without clicking on them.


Can't find the thing on the camera that saves in both raw and jpg

ann

On 7/15/2013 15:18, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 15, 2013, at 13:35 , Ann Sanfedele  wrote:




o ... :-(
guess not

well will try first batch from camera then
thanks, Gerrit - you saved me a lot of anghst



Yah, just use the USB cable and plug the camera right into the computer and 
you'll be good for now.

I did and it was sufficiently fast


SDHC-compatible reader will set you back about $10 if you try hard.


 Probably less if you have something magical like a MicroCenter or such 
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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 15, 2013, at 13:35 , Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> 
> 
> o ... :-(
> guess not
> 
> well will try first batch from camera then
> thanks, Gerrit - you saved me a lot of anghst
> 

Yah, just use the USB cable and plug the camera right into the computer and 
you'll be good for now.

SDHC-compatible reader will set you back about $10 if you try hard.  Probably 
less if you have something magical like a MicroCenter or such nearby.

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RE: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread Gerrit Visser
If you have a 2gb or less SD card then you can prove the theory that is is
the high denisty card.

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
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o ... :-(
guess not

well will try first batch from camera then thanks, Gerrit - you saved me a
lot of anghst

ann

On 7/15/2013 14:32, Gerrit Visser wrote:
> Ah, is your reader compatible with SDHC cards or just SD cards? If it 
> is an older reader it might not support the new high density (>2gb) 
> cards. Ask me how I know: we spent a wonderful day in Shanghai looking 
> for a reader :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 2:26 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)
>
>
> Everything very user friendly... of course I've tried it out on Ashley...
> Have a few pics to load, put card in card reader, put card reader in 
> USB port, clock adobe downloader.  doesn't recognize card.
>
> I shot a couple of jpgs and a bunch of dngs...
>
> I get "select device" in the adobe window
>
> surely I'm missing something simple
>
> anyone??
>
> ann
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Re: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele



o ... :-(
guess not

well will try first batch from camera then
thanks, Gerrit - you saved me a lot of anghst

ann

On 7/15/2013 14:32, Gerrit Visser wrote:

Ah, is your reader compatible with SDHC cards or just SD cards? If it is an
older reader it might not support the new high density (>2gb) cards. Ask me
how I know: we spent a wonderful day in Shanghai looking for a reader :-)

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 2:26 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)


Everything very user friendly... of course I've tried it out on Ashley...
Have a few pics to load, put card in card reader, put card reader in USB
port, clock adobe downloader.  doesn't recognize card.

I shot a couple of jpgs and a bunch of dngs...

I get "select device" in the adobe window

surely I'm missing something simple

anyone??

ann

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RE: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)

2013-07-15 Thread Gerrit Visser
Ah, is your reader compatible with SDHC cards or just SD cards? If it is an
older reader it might not support the new high density (>2gb) cards. Ask me
how I know: we spent a wonderful day in Shanghai looking for a reader :-)

Gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: K-5 Arrived! - now I have a question :-)


Everything very user friendly... of course I've tried it out on Ashley...
Have a few pics to load, put card in card reader, put card reader in USB
port, clock adobe downloader.  doesn't recognize card.

I shot a couple of jpgs and a bunch of dngs...

I get "select device" in the adobe window

surely I'm missing something simple

anyone??

ann

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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:29:40PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I don't count actual results. No point in that.

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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

back in time just to pick up on something out of context I see:-)

ann

On 7/15/2013 08:42, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


I don't count actual results. No point in that.


!!!
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-15 Thread John

On 7/14/2013 11:51 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Just because I'm an engineer, and professionally paranoid about things
going wrong.


As the airline pilot said "nothing can go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go
wrong."



I thought it was "Don't worry Mr. President, there's another parachute 
left. The world's smartest man just jumped out with my backpack."


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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-15 Thread Mark Roberts
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>I don't count actual results. No point in that.

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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ah Gerrit , you misunderstand.  It isn't the software capability , it's
my lack of patience.  although if I were responsible for whooting the 
wedding and the whole reception, I probably would get up to 400 or so.


ann

On 7/15/2013 07:13, Gerrit Visser wrote:

Not a problem in Lightroom :_) On ports days during our cruise I routinely
went through 400-700 photos per days (between wife's K100D and my K5) Weeded
out the chaf, straightened, adjusted, done. That was probably 40 out of the
90 days.
Maybe this gig will also pay for LR5? Especially when on sale.

Gerrit
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Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames after
the event I'd shoot myself

ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.



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RE: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-15 Thread Gerrit Visser
Not a problem in Lightroom :_) On ports days during our cruise I routinely
went through 400-700 photos per days (between wife's K100D and my K5) Weeded
out the chaf, straightened, adjusted, done. That was probably 40 out of the
90 days.
Maybe this gig will also pay for LR5? Especially when on sale.

Gerrit
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Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames after
the event I'd shoot myself

ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.
>
> That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.
>

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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread kwaller
Just because I'm an engineer, and professionally paranoid about things 
going wrong.


As the airline pilot said "nothing can go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go 
wrong."


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From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: K-5 SD card capacity



On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 05:51:48PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy 
>of

>1200 frames shot with a K-5.

RAW?



clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)


Might I suggest that if you can afford a second card, then it would
be good to have, not just in case you fill up one, but in case some
bizarre problem happens to the first card.

If I were photographing a wedding, I would want redundancy for everything.

Just because I'm an engineer, and professionally paranoid about things 
going wrong.




ann
>
>Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
>something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
>not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
>bleachers, with a telephoto.
>




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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Put a formatted 16 gig card In the camera and the frame count reads 460. I 
don't count actual results. No point in that.

Paul via phone

On Jul 14, 2013, at 9:35 PM, John  wrote:

> On 7/14/2013 6:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:04:19PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.
>> 
>> Many of my photos were of senseis teaching on solid colored blue mats.
>> 
>> I suspect that my photos were more amenable to compression than many
>> scenes.
>> 
>> Note that I got about 550 frames per 16 GB which isn's hugem amounts
>> more than 460 per.  At a wedding, there will probably be a lot more
>> details in the clothes and background that'll take more space per frame.
> 
> My little bit of online research indicates the K5 PEF averages 31MB, which 
> should give about 528 frames on a 16GB card. For planning purposes I think 
> you'd be safe figuring 500-frames/16GB-card
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread John

On 7/14/2013 6:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:04:19PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


Many of my photos were of senseis teaching on solid colored blue mats.

I suspect that my photos were more amenable to compression than many
scenes.

Note that I got about 550 frames per 16 GB which isn's hugem amounts
more than 460 per.  At a wedding, there will probably be a lot more
details in the clothes and background that'll take more space per frame.



My little bit of online research indicates the K5 PEF averages 31MB, 
which should give about 528 frames on a 16GB card. For planning purposes 
I think you'd be safe figuring 500-frames/16GB-card


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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I can fit three days of shooting at the Mopar nationals on a 16 gig card. Being 
selective is a virtue!

Paul via phone

On Jul 14, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames after 
> the event I'd shoot myself
> 
> ann
> 
> On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> 
>>> A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.
>> 
>> That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Bruce Walker
A very big factor in K-5 image size is ISO. Shots with more noise
compress poorly as compared to the same shot at low ISO.


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:04:19PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.
>
> Many of my photos were of senseis teaching on solid colored blue mats.
>
> I suspect that my photos were more amenable to compression than many
> scenes.
>
> Note that I got about 550 frames per 16 GB which isn's hugem amounts
> more than 460 per.  At a wedding, there will probably be a lot more
> details in the clothes and background that'll take more space per frame.
>
>>
>> Paul via phone
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>> >> Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy of
>> >> 1200 frames shot with a K-5.
>> >
>> > RAW?
>> > clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)
>> >
>> > ann
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
>> >> something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
>> >> not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
>> >> bleachers, with a telephoto.
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>
>>>A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.
>>
>>That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.
>
> Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames
> after the event I'd shoot myself

The main reason my primary insisted on 32GB was the possibility of either
continuous shooting (not likely at a wedding) or video.  IMO you should
definitely get a 16GB card at least, just in case.
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Sounds good, and more than I'll need.  IF I had to review 460 frames 
after the event I'd shoot myself


ann

On 7/14/2013 18:18, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:


A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW.


That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.



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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Larry - absolutely I plan to carry more than one card!

What I was saying "no" to was the larger capacity ones to avoid
the all eggs in one basket thingy

ann

On 7/14/2013 18:06, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 05:51:48PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:

Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy of
1200 frames shot with a K-5.


RAW?



clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)


Might I suggest that if you can afford a second card, then it would
be good to have, not just in case you fill up one, but in case some
bizarre problem happens to the first card.

If I were photographing a wedding, I would want redundancy for everything.

Just because I'm an engineer, and professionally paranoid about things going 
wrong.



ann


Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
bleachers, with a telephoto.



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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
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> A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW. 

That closely matches my experience of ~900 shots on 32GB.
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 06:04:19PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW. 

Many of my photos were of senseis teaching on solid colored blue mats.

I suspect that my photos were more amenable to compression than many
scenes.

Note that I got about 550 frames per 16 GB which isn's hugem amounts
more than 460 per.  At a wedding, there will probably be a lot more
details in the clothes and background that'll take more space per frame.

> 
> Paul via phone
> 
> On Jul 14, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:
> >> Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy of
> >> 1200 frames shot with a K-5.
> > 
> > RAW?
> > clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)
> > 
> > ann
> >> 
> >> Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
> >> something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
> >> not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
> >> bleachers, with a telephoto.
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 05:51:48PM -0400, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:
> >Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy of
> >1200 frames shot with a K-5.
> 
> RAW?

> clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)

Might I suggest that if you can afford a second card, then it would 
be good to have, not just in case you fill up one, but in case some
bizarre problem happens to the first card.

If I were photographing a wedding, I would want redundancy for everything.

Just because I'm an engineer, and professionally paranoid about things going 
wrong.

> 
> ann
> >
> >Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
> >something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
> >not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
> >bleachers, with a telephoto.
> >
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
A 16 gig card in a k-5 holds 460 frames RAW. 

Paul via phone

On Jul 14, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy of
>> 1200 frames shot with a K-5.
> 
> RAW?
> clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)
> 
> ann
>> 
>> Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
>> something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
>> not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
>> bleachers, with a telephoto.
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Re: K-5 SD card capacity

2013-07-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 7/14/2013 17:13, Larry Colen wrote:

Since the question was recently asked, a 32 GB card will hold just shy of
1200 frames shot with a K-5.


RAW?
clearly, I only need a 16 gig card for the wedding :-)

ann


Yes, I shoot too many frames.  This is exacerbated when I am shooting
something like martial arts, particularly at large seminars when I am
not training, and have nothing to do but stand up in the corner of the
bleachers, with a telephoto.



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RE: K-5 / K-5II differences

2013-07-01 Thread SV Hovland
There is a setting regarding AF called "Expanded area". It controls how the 
camera track the subject if something else enters in front of the subject for 
brief moments. It is also useful when the subject moves out of a focus 
point/all focus points for brief moments.

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Other than the improved autofocus, are there any actual functional changes 
between the two cameras?  Or are the menus, and what they do, the same?

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