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Anybody anywhere who cannot empathize with Bob should come to my house. I'll break your kneecaps and piss on your Nike shoes. No shit. -Lon Gary L. Murphy wrote: Bob Blakely wrote: Damn. Another PDML fucker. Bob, Just consider the source. People like that do not have the guts to fight for something they believe in because they are so narrow minded they would fall for anything.
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Hi! WR> With all due respect, is it really appropriate to call someone who disagrees WR> with your opinion either an asshole of a fucker? WR> History, or perhaps a world court, will, at some point, determine whether WR> the war on Iraq was needed, ethical, necessary or legal. WR> I don't think we will determine it here though. WR> William Robb You're perfectly right. It is also as much inappropriate to insult a father whose son just lost two feet in line of duty. I really see no reason whatsoever why all this (your favorite curse word here) discussion should take place. I suppose that the only responses that Bob should have received should have been those of sympathy and support. To me he is first of all a fellow human and a fellow PDMLer, not the member of some (your yet another favorite curse word here) political group. Apparently this discussion does take place and I am writing this message. It really saddens me. --- Boris Liberman www.geocities.com/dunno57
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have been very well behaved and tolerant considering your son's hardships. Yeah! What he said -- Later, Gary
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I wasn't referring as to whether or not he disagrees with my opinion.I could care less about others either agreeing or disagreeing with me. I was referring to the fact that he seemed to basically blaming Aaron himself for his injuries and more or less saying he thinks he got what he deserved. I've been on this list for the better part of 5 years now, and usually am able to keep my cool. Sorry I wasn't able to this time, Doug. Bill - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: Re: My Son... > With all due respect, is it really appropriate to call someone who disagrees > with your opinion either an asshole of a fucker? > History, or perhaps a world court, will, at some point, determine whether > the war on Iraq was needed, ethical, necessary or legal. > I don't think we will determine it here though. > > William Robb > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: My Son... > > > > Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way > he > > wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion > than > > his. > > > > Bill > > > > > Damn. Another PDML fucker. > > > > > > Bob... > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Mike Ignatiev > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM > > > Subject: Re: My Son... > > > > > > > > > > > > were these the links that you really meant? > > > > > > (Time.com) > > > > > > > > > http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101030714-46 > > > 3062,00.html > > > > > > (a copy of the article) > > > http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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With all due respect, is it really appropriate to call someone who disagrees with your opinion either an asshole of a fucker? History, or perhaps a world court, will, at some point, determine whether the war on Iraq was needed, ethical, necessary or legal. I don't think we will determine it here though. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Re: My Son... > Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way he > wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion than > his. > > Bill > > > Damn. Another PDML fucker. > > > > Bob... > > - Original Message - > > From: Mike Ignatiev > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM > > Subject: Re: My Son... > > > > > > > > were these the links that you really meant? > > > > (Time.com) > > > > > http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101030714-46 > > 3062,00.html > > > > (a copy of the article) > > http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php > > > > > > > >
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Dag T wrote: Also, people get hurt when they go to war. It´s not the movies, heros get hurt too. They sacrifices something for some cause. I feel sorry for their families. Then behave as if you do feelsorry for then.
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Can´t you all just stop and accept that there are heros and sacrifices made on both sides of any war, regardless of the cause and sanity of the leaders. Norway was occupied by Germans for 5 years, but even then many recognized that many solders where just ordinary family men, good sons and father being a long way from home and missing their loved ones. This, however, did not make Hitler any better. Also, people get hurt when they go to war. It´s not the movies, heros get hurt too. They sacrifices something for some cause. I feel sorry for their families. So stop it DagT På torsdag, 31. juli 2003, kl. 20:32, skrev Bill Owens: Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way he wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion than his. Bill Damn. Another PDML fucker. Bob... - Original Message - From: Mike Ignatiev To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM Subject: Re: My Son... were these the links that you really meant? (Time.com) http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/ 0,10987,1101030714-46 3062,00.html (a copy of the article) http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php
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Yes, Bob, another narrow minded asshole that can only see things the way he wants to see them and cannot fathom someone having a different opinion than his. Bill > Damn. Another PDML fucker. > > Bob... > - Original Message - > From: Mike Ignatiev > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:43 AM > Subject: Re: My Son... > > > > were these the links that you really meant? > > (Time.com) > > http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101030714-46 > 3062,00.html > > (a copy of the article) > http://victoria.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/15349.php > >
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Best of Luck. Please let your son know that his countrymen have deep respect for his efforts on our behalf. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bob, I wish you and your son the fullest possible recovery from this nightmare. Boris ===8<==Original message text=== BB> After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet, BB> my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot. BB> He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. He's scared, but BB> this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty and the BB> life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his BB> amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. BB> Regards, BB> Bob... BB> BB> "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying BB> the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine BB> and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" BB> -Martin Luther ===8<===End of original message text===
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You and your son will be in my thoughts and prayers. I'm so glad you will be able to go and be there with him. Kathy L.
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Bob Blakely wrote: life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. Bob, Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. -- Later, Gary
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Our prayers are with you and your son. May he make a speedy recovery! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: My Son... > After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet, > my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot. > He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. He's scared, but > this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty and the > life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his > amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying > the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine > and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" > -Martin Luther >
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Bob, My prayers go out to you and to your son. I hope that he recovers fully from his surgery and his rehabilitation. Francis M. Alviar Irvine, CA -- Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:37:21 -0700 From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: My Son... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet, my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot. He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. He's scared, but this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty and the life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther -- __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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If he wants to go back into duty, I'd take that as a good sign that his spirit will bounce back. Wish him well from all in the Pentax PUG world. -Lon Bob Blakely wrote: After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet, my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot. He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. He's scared, but this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty and the life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther
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Much luck, Bob... We'll be with you in spirit. Bob Blakely wrote: > > After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet, > my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot. > He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. I guess I missed it. He had damage to his right heel? Is the rest of the right foot okay, and a synthetic heel will do what is necessary to remedy the damage? > He's scared, You bet! I'd be pertified! >...but this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty > and the life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery > for his amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. Best from -- keith whaley
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I feel for you, Bob, and especially for your son. I am hoping for him to return to airborne duty next year. Maris Bob Blakely wrote: > After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's > feet, my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of > his left foot. He will have a synthetic heal built into his right > foot. He's scared, but this will give him his best chances of > returning to airborne duty and the life he loves. Rehabilitation will > take about a year. Surgery for his amputation is scheduled for > Tuesday. I'll be there with him.
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After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet, my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot. He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. He's scared, but this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty and the life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther
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Bob, I hope your son will manage to get out of this nighmare unhurt psychologically. Andre --
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Hi Bob and Everyone, Bob my sincere and heartfelt prayers go out to you, your family and your son Aaron at this time. War is Hell and your son is a brave hero. I hope he has a speedy recovery. Whatever anyones thoughts are about the Iraq war, (I personally was against it and felt Bush was exaggerating the threat unlike Afghanistan which was 100% necessary) Bob's son is no less a hero than those who died or were injured in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia or Afghanistan. (or any other place I forgot) Remember, Aaron is a Volunteer to fight for our freedom and he did not choose the war, our leaders did. I agree this Not the time and forum to discuss politics. If you want to, go elsewhere, especially when we have a fellow pentax brother who is hurting. Sincerely, Ryan Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 21:50:11 -0400 From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: freedom-schmeedom Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, this is it, the one time I'm going to agree with Frank. I have a son who is old enough to be in the military. The anguish that a parent goes through when a child is hurt is deeper than any other. Politics have nothing to do with the trauma to Bob and Aaron's personal world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Bob's son Aaron is lying in a hospital somewhere, wondering if he's going to lose a >foot, and you guys get into this discussion. Shame on both of you! > >I'm not impressed. This really ain't the time... > >-frank > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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Bob, sorry to hear the news about the injury that your son sustained in Iraq. I wish him a speed recovery and that he is soon reunited with his family. Harry -- Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Bob, I'm very sorry to hear about your son. I can only add my hope for his quick recovery. Ciao, Gianfranco (2nd attempt, something has gone wrong, it seems...) = __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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You should have left the comments about democracy, republics, and constitutional government out because this will cause people to use the PDML for political comments. Let's just talk about photography. Jim A. > From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:14:23 -0700 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: My Son... > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:14:46 -0400 > > First, I want to thank you and everyone for the support and sentiments > expressed here. I'm printing them up to give to Aaron when it becomes > appropriate to visit him in the hospital in Germany. Just knowing that there > are folks out there who care is a great comfort to those who are wounded, > scared and suffering. > > I talked about being free and have made no mention of democracy. Neither I > nor my government care what form of government the Iraqis choose, except > that it start out as the choice of the Iraqi people and that it not be a > danger to their neighbors or the world. > > I am no fan of democracy: > > A Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for dinner. > > A Republic is three hundred wolves and two hundred sheep voting for three > wolves and two sheep to come up with a dinner menu. > > A Constitutional Republic is a republic wherein it has been decided > beforehand that lamb is not on the menu. > > .. Then the high court of the land declares that mutton is not lamb! > > I'm headed out to take photos of girls with Harleys. This was arranged some > time ago, and perhaps it will take my mind off all this for a few moments > and stop the squirrel caging of my thoughts and feelings. > > I'm sorry for my last comment in the original post. Please don't turn this > into some sort of political thread. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying > the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine > and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" > -Martin Luther > > From: "Artur Ledóchowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: My Son... >> >>> My son is in Iraq. >> >> First, I really do hope your son will be all right. Best wishes for him > and >> for you. >> >>> I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an >>> underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among >> them. >>> How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them? >> >> Because Saddam's government meant stability and predictability of the >> day-to-day life as weel as provided a sort of the national strenght and >> pride. Now Iraqi people have to deal with all the after-the war chaos and >> they don't seem to be prepared for this. >> >>> Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some >> peoples >>> in this world who simply do not deserve to be free. >> >> It may of course look this way but we need to understand their regional >> cpecificity. Their region has never been used to democracy, ESPECIALLY in >> the European/American version. Thus such democracy cannot, or even must > not, >> be enforced upon them - this may not only proove unsuccesful but also be a >> cause of a civil war with some ideological, religious aspects. I live in >> Poland, my country is a part of the anti-Saddam coalition. I've supported >> the war and the whole mission. However, I do hope the democracy will not > be >> brought into Iraq by force. This is not the Iraqi way. And the democracy > is >> not the universal way. I think the Iraqi people feel it and are afraid of >> the possibility to be forced to accept the democracy. >> Regards >> Artur >
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After all this you expect me to keep quite? Wait .. Virginia ... put down that duct tape ... get back ... hmpfff hmpfffddl sdffsdfsd jjfj :) At 01:50 PM 6/29/2003 -0400, you wrote: From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am no fan of democracy: A Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for dinner. A Republic is three hundred wolves and two hundred sheep voting for three wolves and two sheep to come up with a dinner menu. A Constitutional Republic is a republic wherein it has been decided beforehand that lamb is not on the menu. ... Then the high court of the land declares that mutton is not lamb! I'm headed out to take photos of girls with Harleys. This was arranged some time ago, and perhaps it will take my mind off all this for a few moments and stop the squirrel caging of my thoughts and feelings. I'm sorry for my last comment in the original post. Please don't turn this into some sort of political thread. Regards, Bob...
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- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: My Son... > I talked about being free and have made no mention of democracy. Of course. Mind that I wrote: "I think the Iraqi people feel it and are afraid of the possibility to be forced to accept the democracy". This is much the irrational fear of course... > I am no fan of democracy: Nor am I:) > > A Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for dinner. > > A Republic is three hundred wolves and two hundred sheep voting for three > wolves and two sheep to come up with a dinner menu. > > A Constitutional Republic is a republic wherein it has been decided > beforehand that lamb is not on the menu. > > ... Then the high court of the land declares that mutton is not lamb! Well said:) Regards Artur
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First, I want to thank you and everyone for the support and sentiments expressed here. I'm printing them up to give to Aaron when it becomes appropriate to visit him in the hospital in Germany. Just knowing that there are folks out there who care is a great comfort to those who are wounded, scared and suffering. I talked about being free and have made no mention of democracy. Neither I nor my government care what form of government the Iraqis choose, except that it start out as the choice of the Iraqi people and that it not be a danger to their neighbors or the world. I am no fan of democracy: A Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for dinner. A Republic is three hundred wolves and two hundred sheep voting for three wolves and two sheep to come up with a dinner menu. A Constitutional Republic is a republic wherein it has been decided beforehand that lamb is not on the menu. ... Then the high court of the land declares that mutton is not lamb! I'm headed out to take photos of girls with Harleys. This was arranged some time ago, and perhaps it will take my mind off all this for a few moments and stop the squirrel caging of my thoughts and feelings. I'm sorry for my last comment in the original post. Please don't turn this into some sort of political thread. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther From: "Artur Ledóchowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: My Son... > > > My son is in Iraq. > > First, I really do hope your son will be all right. Best wishes for him and > for you. > > > I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an > > underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among > them. > > How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them? > > Because Saddam's government meant stability and predictability of the > day-to-day life as weel as provided a sort of the national strenght and > pride. Now Iraqi people have to deal with all the after-the war chaos and > they don't seem to be prepared for this. > > > Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some > peoples > > in this world who simply do not deserve to be free. > > It may of course look this way but we need to understand their regional > cpecificity. Their region has never been used to democracy, ESPECIALLY in > the European/American version. Thus such democracy cannot, or even must not, > be enforced upon them - this may not only proove unsuccesful but also be a > cause of a civil war with some ideological, religious aspects. I live in > Poland, my country is a part of the anti-Saddam coalition. I've supported > the war and the whole mission. However, I do hope the democracy will not be > brought into Iraq by force. This is not the Iraqi way. And the democracy is > not the universal way. I think the Iraqi people feel it and are afraid of > the possibility to be forced to accept the democracy. > Regards > Artur
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- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: My Son... > My son is in Iraq. First, I really do hope your son will be all right. Best wishes for him and for you. > I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an > underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among them. > How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them? Because Saddam's government meant stability and predictability of the day-to-day life as weel as provided a sort of the national strenght and pride. Now Iraqi people have to deal with all the after-the war chaos and they don't seem to be prepared for this. > Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some peoples > in this world who simply do not deserve to be free. It may of course look this way but we need to understand their regional cpecificity. Their region has never been used to democracy, ESPECIALLY in the European/American version. Thus such democracy cannot, or even must not, be enforced upon them - this may not only proove unsuccesful but also be a cause of a civil war with some ideological, religious aspects. I live in Poland, my country is a part of the anti-Saddam coalition. I've supported the war and the whole mission. However, I do hope the democracy will not be brought into Iraq by force. This is not the Iraqi way. And the democracy is not the universal way. I think the Iraqi people feel it and are afraid of the possibility to be forced to accept the democracy. Regards Artur
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I wish this had not happened. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, I'm sorry to hear about your Son's injury
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I really can't put it any better than Frank did. But I did want to say that my prayers are joining those of all the others here. Take care. Jim Moniz Actor, Photographer, and All Around Nice Guy... www.jimmoniz.com -- ___ Get your free Verizonmail at www.verizonmail.com
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Bob, I'm so sorry to hear that. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "AR15-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 2:05 AM Subject: My Son... > My son is in Iraq. He's with the 173 Airborne Brigade. They were the first > to drop into Northern Iraq to secure airfields. Recently, he and his unit > have been playing "policeman" in one of the northern cities. Actually, > they've been backup for the local police to give the city order. We had been > talking just the other day and Aaron told me that the different factions in > the city (Kurds, Shiites, etc.) may not really like each other, but they > were always friendly to him and he enjoyed talking with them. Last night > (Iraqi time), a mortar hit the "safe house" where he and his unit were > sleeping. The perpetrators were (most likely) Saddam holdovers aided by > foreigners - Syrian, etc. Two were hurt, one will be fine. My son, however, > has been told by the doctors that he will most likely may loose what is left > of his left foot. He will be airlifted to Germany tomorrow. > > I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an > underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among them. > How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them? > > Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some peoples > in this world who simply do not deserve to be free. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying > the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine > and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" > -Martin Luther > > >
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By the way, Bob, Please keep us updated on Aaron's progress. I think I can speak for everyone here and say that we're all pulling for his speedy recovery. regards, frank frank theriault wrote: > Bob, > > I'm terribly sorry to hear about your son, Aaron, but glad that he's alive, and > is now (I presume) out of further danger. > -- "What a senseless waste of human life" -The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
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Bob,
I didn't know what to say but this, well, this expresses most of what I
feel and
think. Thanks Frank.
--Peter
At 04:04 PM 6/28/03 -0400, you wrote:
Bob,
I'm terribly sorry to hear about your son, Aaron, but glad that he's
alive, and
is now (I presume) out of further danger.
Over the decades, dozens upon dozens (maybe hundreds?) of wars, armed
conflicts,
insurrections and the like have come into my home via the television. They've
always been abstract - horrible images to be sure, but somehow like surreal
movies, they never seemed real.
Your son's experience snaps it all into reality. Real people die, and get
hurt
in these things. I have no idea who's right or wrong over there. It
certainly
seems that things aren't as black and white as they used to be ("Allies good -
Axis bad"), and each conflict now seems to have not two, but many combatants,
all fighting for and about different issues. It makes life for an occupying
force all the more difficult than it already is.
Your son was there to do "the right thing". He can take solace in the
fact that
(and I'm saying this as someone who thought the US shouldn't have invaded Iraq
in the first place) Iraq will be a better place after the Americans and
British
leave, than it was before they got there.
He paid a huge sacrifice, but fortunately, not the ultimate one. My thoughts
are with him, and you and your family.
regards,
frank
Bob Blakely wrote:
> My son is in Iraq. He's with the 173 Airborne Brigade. They were the first
> to drop into Northern Iraq to secure airfields. Recently, he and his unit
> have been playing "policeman" in one of the northern cities. Actually,
> they've been backup for the local police to give the city order. We had
been
> talking just the other day and Aaron told me that the different factions in
> the city (Kurds, Shiites, etc.) may not really like each other, but they
> were always friendly to him and he enjoyed talking with them. Last night
> (Iraqi time), a mortar hit the "safe house" where he and his unit were
> sleeping. The perpetrators were (most likely) Saddam holdovers aided by
> foreigners - Syrian, etc. Two were hurt, one will be fine. My son, however,
> has been told by the doctors that he will most likely may loose what is
left
> of his left foot. He will be airlifted to Germany tomorrow.
>
> I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an
> underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among
them.
> How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them?
>
> Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some peoples
> in this world who simply do not deserve to be free.
>
> Regards,
> Bob...
>
> "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying
> the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine
> and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?"
> -Martin Luther
--
"What a senseless waste of human life"
-The Customer in Monty Python's Cheese Shop sketch
To grasp the true meaning of socialism, imagine a world where everything is
designed by
the post office, even the sleaze.
O'Rourke, P.J.
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My sympathy, Bob, to both you and your son. There are no words that will take the pain away, but my prayers go out for both of you. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My son is in Iraq. He's with the 173 Airborne Brigade. They were the first > to drop into Northern Iraq to secure airfields. Recently, he and his unit > have been playing "policeman" in one of the northern cities. Actually, > they've been backup for the local police to give the city order. We had been > talking just the other day and Aaron told me that the different factions in > the city (Kurds, Shiites, etc.) may not really like each other, but they > were always friendly to him and he enjoyed talking with them. Last night > (Iraqi time), a mortar hit the "safe house" where he and his unit were > sleeping. The perpetrators were (most likely) Saddam holdovers aided by > foreigners - Syrian, etc. Two were hurt, one will be fine. My son, however, > has been told by the doctors that he will most likely may loose what is left > of his left foot. He will be airlifted to Germany tomorrow.
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Bob, Deepest sympathy for your son, you, and your family. There are people and situations on our very own planet that appear so strange and distant as to be completely alien to what we have come to know as civilisation... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Sorry to hear about your son Bob. It's a complex place and a complex problem that is difficult for a lot of people to understand. Although, I agree with you sometimes you really have to wonder what goes through their minds.. Vic
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Sorry to hear about your son. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Demian)
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Very sorry for your son, Bob. I hope it all eventually works out for him. He can take pride in serving for his country. I'm proud of all our service people over there. Ours is still a volunteer army, don't forget. They didn't have so sign up, but they did. So, they deserve all the praise we can heap on them! keith Bob Blakely wrote: > > My son is in Iraq. He's with the 173 Airborne Brigade. They were the first > to drop into Northern Iraq to secure airfields. Recently, he and his unit > have been playing "policeman" in one of the northern cities. Actually, > they've been backup for the local police to give the city order. We had been > talking just the other day and Aaron told me that the different factions in > the city (Kurds, Shiites, etc.) may not really like each other, but they > were always friendly to him and he enjoyed talking with them. Last night > (Iraqi time), a mortar hit the "safe house" where he and his unit were > sleeping. The perpetrators were (most likely) Saddam holdovers aided by > foreigners - Syrian, etc. Two were hurt, one will be fine. My son, however, > has been told by the doctors that he will most likely may loose what is left > of his left foot. He will be airlifted to Germany tomorrow. > > I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an > underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among them. > How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them? > > Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some peoples > in this world who simply do not deserve to be free. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying > the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine > and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" > -Martin Luther
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My prayers are with you and your son. Paul Stenquist Bob Blakely wrote: > > My son is in Iraq. He's with the 173 Airborne Brigade. They were the first > to drop into Northern Iraq to secure airfields. Recently, he and his unit > have been playing "policeman" in one of the northern cities. Actually, > they've been backup for the local police to give the city order. We had been > talking just the other day and Aaron told me that the different factions in > the city (Kurds, Shiites, etc.) may not really like each other, but they > were always friendly to him and he enjoyed talking with them. Last night > (Iraqi time), a mortar hit the "safe house" where he and his unit were > sleeping. The perpetrators were (most likely) Saddam holdovers aided by > foreigners - Syrian, etc. Two were hurt, one will be fine. My son, however, > has been told by the doctors that he will most likely may loose what is left > of his left foot. He will be airlifted to Germany tomorrow. > > I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an > underground and after the war did not tolerate Nazi sympathizers among them. > How can this people tolerate the Saddam supporters among them? > > Forgive me. Right now I am beginning to believe that there are some peoples > in this world who simply do not deserve to be free. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying > the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine > and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" > -Martin Luther
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Bob, Our best wishes for Aaron's speedy recovery. Bob S.
