Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Christine Aguila]

I HATE 2020!  christine

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> There is no "safety" in 2020, it seems. AQI was up into the 130+ "Unhealthy" 
> range for the past three days along with ambient temperatures floating up 
> into the 100-115 range even here in the SF Bay Area. The particulates in the 
> air are particularly bad. 
> 
> I stay indoors the past two days, with the AC running on low and air exchange 
> to help filter the air. The sun has been a dull orange this morning. 
> Yesterday evening, I needed to get some exercise so went for a short walk at 
> sunset time (6-7 pm) as air temps fell into the low 80°F/high 70°Fs range. I 
> carried the camera...
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/NJ2Rua (all with Leica CL + Voigtländer 
> 10mm)
> 
> I won't say "Enjoy!" There's little to be enjoyed about having air quality so 
> bad that even people with healthy lungs are at risk. On top of COVID-19, BLM, 
> insane/absurd BS on the national and international political front, 
> earthquakes, hurricanes of unprecedented strength ... 2020 has it in for us. 
> 
> Hunker down and endure as best you can seems the operative advice.
> 
> G
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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[John]

We've had occasional small earthquakes around here, but the only one I remember 
experiencing was the August 2011 earthquake in Northern Virginia.


I remember it as a low rumble that rattled my windows. IIRC it lasted about 2 
minutes, building up slowly & then tapering off. About half way through I had 
the sudden realization that I was hearing & feeling an earthquake.


The Wikipedia article about it mentions all the states on the Atlantic Coast 
*except* North Carolina.


It even mentions the earthquake effects on mid-western states Ohio, Illinois, 
Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota ...Canadian provinces Ontario, 
Quebec and the Maritime provinces along with Kentucky & Alabama, but nary a 
mention of North Carolina.


On 9/9/2020 15:17:27, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We are about 40 miles from the epicenter.  We did not feel if/
There was a quake of about the same magnitude on the Alaskan Peninsula
while we were there.  I was sleeping, and woke up at the time of the quake,
even though I did not feel any of its effects.

We sit atop something called the Peapack Fault.  Every 5-10 years we
experience a very mild (2.0 - 3.3) earthquake, but never any damage.  Not
like the one in CA.

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On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:25 PM John  wrote:


PS: How close were you to this morning's New Jersey earthquake? Did it
wake you up?





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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

At 3:30pm in Santa Clara, the light outdoors was blood orange and the light 
levels looked like about an hour past sunset last evening. It's lightened up a 
little now, but I'm staying in for the rest of the day. There's absolutely no 
point in going out without a darn good reason to, given the mess out there. 

G

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> wow...
> ann
> 
> On 9/9/2020 12:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> There is no "safety" in 2020, it seems. AQI was up into the 130+ "Unhealthy" 
>> range for the past three days along with ambient temperatures floating up 
>> into the 100-115 range even here in the SF Bay Area. The particulates in the 
>> air are particularly bad.
>> 
>> I stay indoors the past two days, with the AC running on low and air 
>> exchange to help filter the air. The sun has been a dull orange this 
>> morning. Yesterday evening, I needed to get some exercise so went for a 
>> short walk at sunset time (6-7 pm) as air temps fell into the low 80°F/high 
>> 70°Fs range. I carried the camera...
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/NJ2Rua (all with Leica CL + Voigtländer 
>> 10mm)
>> 
>> I won't say "Enjoy!" There's little to be enjoyed about having air quality 
>> so bad that even people with healthy lungs are at risk. On top of COVID-19, 
>> BLM, insane/absurd BS on the national and international political front, 
>> earthquakes, hurricanes of unprecedented strength ... 2020 has it in for us.
>> 
>> Hunker down and endure as best you can seems the operative advice.


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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[steve harley]

On 2020-09-9 10:33, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

There is no "safety" in 2020, it seems. AQI was up into the 130+ "Unhealthy" 
range for the past three days along with ambient temperatures floating up into the 100-115 range 
even here in the SF Bay Area. The particulates in the air are particularly bad.


i think these conditions are hitting many parts of the west; we've had 
similar AQI several times here, above 130 on an hourly basis  multiple times 
recently; we have only two huge fires and two large ones blowing smoke into 
Denver, but major color, haze and darkening in the sky; everyone has burning 
eyes, some have headaches or worse


we just had a rather extreme weather shift that has cleared the air 
temporarily, but AQI forecast is back above 130 on Saturday


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Re: OT: CA Wildfires quantifying

[John Francis]

On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 12:11:43PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> It???s a bit dark out today.  How dark?
> 
> f/16, 1/100 ISO 10,000
> about 1% of normal light about 7 stops

... and with a significant colour shift towards the red.

It's also more than a little cooler than yesterday.

This time yesterday the temperature here was 103F (~40C).
Today it's 68F (20C).

It feels as though we're on a film set, and we're on Mars.
Or, alternatively, we're at the beginning of the nuclear
winter that was the downfall of the dinosaurs.
99% of the light not getting to the surface of the earth
is just downright weird.


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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[ann sanfedele]

wow...
ann

On 9/9/2020 12:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

There is no "safety" in 2020, it seems. AQI was up into the 130+ "Unhealthy" 
range for the past three days along with ambient temperatures floating up into the 100-115 range 
even here in the SF Bay Area. The particulates in the air are particularly bad.

I stay indoors the past two days, with the AC running on low and air exchange 
to help filter the air. The sun has been a dull orange this morning. Yesterday 
evening, I needed to get some exercise so went for a short walk at sunset time 
(6-7 pm) as air temps fell into the low 80°F/high 70°Fs range. I carried the 
camera...

https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/NJ2Rua (all with Leica CL + Voigtländer 10mm)

I won't say "Enjoy!" There's little to be enjoyed about having air quality so 
bad that even people with healthy lungs are at risk. On top of COVID-19, BLM, 
insane/absurd BS on the national and international political front, earthquakes, 
hurricanes of unprecedented strength ... 2020 has it in for us.

Hunker down and endure as best you can seems the operative advice.

G
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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Nolan Hinshaw]

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 09:18, John  wrote:
> 
> I doubt anyone in California si *safe* this week. But I hope all are 
> surviving & have not been rendered homeless by the fires.

The big problem here on the shore of the Pacific is the Creek Fire and the 
resulting pyrocumulonimbus smoking up the sky; with the dense coastal stratus, 
it's a bit like the sun died. We're choking on the combustion byproducts in the 
dark.


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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

There is no "safety" in 2020, it seems. AQI was up into the 130+ "Unhealthy" 
range for the past three days along with ambient temperatures floating up into 
the 100-115 range even here in the SF Bay Area. The particulates in the air are 
particularly bad. 

I stay indoors the past two days, with the AC running on low and air exchange 
to help filter the air. The sun has been a dull orange this morning. Yesterday 
evening, I needed to get some exercise so went for a short walk at sunset time 
(6-7 pm) as air temps fell into the low 80°F/high 70°Fs range. I carried the 
camera...

https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/NJ2Rua (all with Leica CL + Voigtländer 10mm)

I won't say "Enjoy!" There's little to be enjoyed about having air quality so 
bad that even people with healthy lungs are at risk. On top of COVID-19, BLM, 
insane/absurd BS on the national and international political front, 
earthquakes, hurricanes of unprecedented strength ... 2020 has it in for us. 

Hunker down and endure as best you can seems the operative advice.

G
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Re: OT: CA Wildfires quantifying

[Daniel J. Matyola]

WOW!
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 3:12 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
> It’s a bit dark out today.  How dark?
>
> f/16, 1/100 ISO 10,000
> about 1% of normal light about 7 stops
>
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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We are about 40 miles from the epicenter.  We did not feel if/
There was a quake of about the same magnitude on the Alaskan Peninsula
while we were there.  I was sleeping, and woke up at the time of the quake,
even though I did not feel any of its effects.

We sit atop something called the Peapack Fault.  Every 5-10 years we
experience a very mild (2.0 - 3.3) earthquake, but never any damage.  Not
like the one in CA.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 12:25 PM John  wrote:

> PS: How close were you to this morning's New Jersey earthquake? Did it
> wake you up?
>
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Re: OT: CA Wildfires quantifying

[Larry Colen]

It’s a bit dark out today.  How dark?

f/16, 1/100 ISO 10,000
about 1% of normal light about 7 stops

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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[Larry Colen]

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> * Is everyone safe out on the left coast this week?*
> 
> More than 85 fires are burning across the West Coast in an unprecedented
> event that's already scorched hundreds of thousands of acres

On the bright side, there’s a huge, brand new firebreak just a few miles from 
my house.

We’re up to 83% containment
https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/2020/8/16/czu-lightning-complex-including-warnella-fire/

We went from 60-80% pretty quickly Then only about a percent a day.

Yesterday it looked like they were scaling back one of the big centers for the 
equipment

Here are some fire maps

https://firms2.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:2020-09-08..2020-09-09;@-120.2,42.9,6z

https://www.latimes.com/wildfires-map/?fire=czu-lightning-complex

The caltopo map is pretty good, but if you zoom out it is more readable if you 
turn off the “weather stations” tickbox in the map layers box

https://caltopo.com/m/3kn5


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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[John]

PS: How close were you to this morning's New Jersey earthquake? Did it wake you 
up?


On 9/9/2020 12:18:10, John wrote:
I doubt anyone in California si *safe* this week. But I hope all are surviving & 
have not been rendered homeless by the fires.


On 9/9/2020 10:29:36, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

* Is everyone safe out on the left coast this week?*

More than 85 fires are burning across the West Coast in an unprecedented
event that's already scorched hundreds of thousands of acres
. 


At least 25 wildfires are burning in California, and the blazes stretch
practically the full length of the state. Winds and extreme heat have only
served to stoke the flames. In Oregon, fires have already scorched more
than 230,000 acres and forced thousands of families to evacuate. Washington
Gov. Jay Inslee said more acres were burned Monday in his state than have
been burned in the past 12 fire seasons. The whole region will continue to
be plagued with hot, dry weather, providing no respite from the historic
blazes.


Dan Matyola
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I am *NOT* taking shots at California BTW, not while I sit here and wait for 
another Atlantic hurricane to come along and blow the roof off my house again.


I hope y'all *ARE* safe, for whatever values of safe y'all can get right now.




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Re: OT: CA Wildfires

[John]

I doubt anyone in California si *safe* this week. But I hope all are surviving & 
have not been rendered homeless by the fires.


On 9/9/2020 10:29:36, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

* Is everyone safe out on the left coast this week?*

More than 85 fires are burning across the West Coast in an unprecedented
event that's already scorched hundreds of thousands of acres
.
At least 25 wildfires are burning in California, and the blazes stretch
practically the full length of the state. Winds and extreme heat have only
served to stoke the flames. In Oregon, fires have already scorched more
than 230,000 acres and forced thousands of families to evacuate. Washington
Gov. Jay Inslee said more acres were burned Monday in his state than have
been burned in the past 12 fire seasons. The whole region will continue to
be plagued with hot, dry weather, providing no respite from the historic
blazes.


Dan Matyola
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*



I am *NOT* taking shots at California BTW, not while I sit here and wait for 
another Atlantic hurricane to come along and blow the roof off my house again.


I hope y'all *ARE* safe, for whatever values of safe y'all can get right now.

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