Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
This one time, at scanner camp, Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No deal Shel. I'm 1,500 kilometres from the nearest place likely to have a scanner of that type, let alone somewhere to rent time on one. I'll be looking for a cheap scanner in time... 1500km!? where are you? Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
Karratha Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at scanner camp, Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No deal Shel. I'm 1,500 kilometres from the nearest place likely to have a scanner of that type, let alone somewhere to rent time on one. I'll be looking for a cheap scanner in time... 1500km!? where are you? Kevin
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Graywolf mentioned: So, I was not suggesting he try to get the S-20, but that he look for something currently on closeout somewhere. Understood. By now this may have become lost in the discussion, but my original reply was intended to say that I agreed in principle (look for a deal on a scanner) but the specific example (S20) might not be suitable for his particular purpose(just in case he happened to find one). I may not have made that very clear at the time, and since we've gone on to talk about the S20 in more detail, as I say, that original intent probably got lost. ERN
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Replied to off list with glee Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karratha Ahh, nice spot, have not been there since... about 1981 I think Anywho, I have a CanoScan FS-4000US I could send to you as a loaner. Basically, you pay for postage and if you break it, you own it. This toy will scan 4 35mm slides at a time at various resolutions up to 4000dpi. specs here.. http://www.canon.com.au/products/scanners/scanners_low_medium_volume/canoscanfs4000us_specs.html I could let you have it for about 2 weeks if you like. Kind regards Kevin
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is slightly OT, but the slides were all taken with Pentax cameras (except for a few), so it is still on topic I guess... I have a collection (300-400) of 35mm slides that I really need to digitise. Ideally, a 35mm slide scanner would be the best option, but I can't afford one at the moment. What have other listers done in the past to resolve there scanning problems. I have no access to a lab or anything other than by mail...and I would hate to lose any of these trannies. Any ideas out there... I can't think of any besides sending them out to get scanned. Most places will charge more for scanning 400 slides than the cost of a good scanner would be. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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I would be surprised if Soligor doesn't have a solution for copying slides in a digital camera: Take a look: http://www.soligor.de/index.phtml?sprache=e Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. juni 2004 16:21 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: OT: Slide Dilemma Thanks Tom. If only Pentax had a simple k mount slide copier that I could use on my *ist D I would be right... Cheers Shaun Tom Reese wrote: Shaun asked: I have a collection (300-400) of 35mm slides that I really need to digitise. Ideally, a 35mm slide scanner would be the best option, but I can't afford one at the moment. Any ideas out there... a possible solution would be to use a digital camera and slide copier. Tom Reese
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
By the time you pay someone to commercially scan 300-400 slides you will have more than paid for a very good film scanner, so you might as well bite the bullet and buy one for yourself. You might look for a good deal on a recently discontinued model. I got an band new HP S-20 for $69 that way a year ago. Found it when doing a Google search for film scanners. -- Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: This is slightly OT, but the slides were all taken with Pentax cameras (except for a few), so it is still on topic I guess... I have a collection (300-400) of 35mm slides that I really need to digitise. Ideally, a 35mm slide scanner would be the best option, but I can't afford one at the moment. What have other listers done in the past to resolve there scanning problems. I have no access to a lab or anything other than by mail...and I would hate to lose any of these trannies. Any ideas out there... Cheers Shaun -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
I agree Mal, I just said the same thing too Brian in another post. Cheers Shaun Malcolm Smith wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I can't think of any besides sending them out to get scanned. Most places will charge more for scanning 400 slides than the cost of a good scanner would be. Once you get to needing several hundred slides scanned, buying has got to be the cheapest option. I think I would get a good deal on a scanner from a store or a good one from eBay, take my time scanning them, and if those were the only slides I had, re-sell the scanner on eBay. Slides scanned and overall minimal cash outlay. Malcolm
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I think I would buy a scanner first Brian, as I would have at least $1200 worth of scans at that rate. A slide scanner, bought on eBay or such, and then resold, would still probably be the best bet., but I can't spare the cash at the moment...other more pressing issues I am afraid. Thanks for the info though. I think I will wait until a second hand Nikon Coolscan V or similar pops up on eBay at the right price. Cheers Shaun Brian Walters wrote: Shaun I'm struggling with the same sort of problem. You might like to give Image Science Scanning a try. They are based in Melbourne so you need to send your slides by post. However, they recommend you send the slides by registered post and they then return them, plus the scans, the same way. It's not 100% guaranteed that the slides won't go astray but it's about as safe a method as you will find. I recently tried a test batch of 12 slides and, for the most part, I was pleased with the results. The scans come back as 16 bit tif scans at about 120 to 150 MB each. The cost was about $4 per image although my last advice was that the pricing structure was about to change. They have a web site at: http://www.imagesciencescanning.com.au I'd be interested in hearing about any other options. Cheers Brian + Brian Walters Australian Plants Societies http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/ On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:30 , 'Dr. Shaun Canning' [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: This is slightly OT, but the slides were all taken with Pentax cameras (except for a few), so it is still on topic I guess... I have a collection (300-400) of 35mm slides that I really need to digitise. Ideally, a 35mm slide scanner would be the best option, but I can't afford one at the moment. What have other listers done in the past to resolve there scanning problems. I have no access to a lab or anything other than by mail...and I would hate to lose any of these trannies. Any ideas out there... Cheers Shaun Msg sent via Spymac Mail - http://www.spymac.com
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
Hi, Have you checked any of the pro-type labs in your area to see if they will rent time on a scanner? Around here there are a few places that'll do that, and they rent time on very high quality Imacon scanners, so the results are quite good. BTW, the Coolscan V is a pretty nice unit, but a Coolscan IV may be an even better deal, especially if you can get it with some accessories. Shel [Original Message] From: Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/19/2004 7:48:17 AM Subject: Re: OT: Slide Dilemma I think I would buy a scanner first Brian, as I would have at least $1200 worth of scans at that rate. A slide scanner, bought on eBay or such, and then resold, would still probably be the best bet., but I can't spare the cash at the moment...other more pressing issues I am afraid. Thanks for the info though. I think I will wait until a second hand Nikon Coolscan V or similar pops up on eBay at the right price.
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Shaun, the Kodal Photo CD service is pretty good. It gives 2400 dpi. Also, a pro lab might be able to scan them for you. But for that many images it will cost you the price of a used scanner. I bought a used Nikon LS 2000 on eBay about 3 years ago for $500 (U.S.). I'll bet they are a lot less now. It does a nice job at 2720 dpi. This is probably your best route. Although I haven't shot any film since last September, I am keeping the scanner. Like you, I have many oldies to scan, and I don't think I am entirely done with film yet. So it will hang around for occasional use. Joe
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does anyone know how this thing works? does it require an extension tube or bellows or other equipment? Boz doesn't say much about it on his site. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=43479item=3821958420 rd=1ssPageName=WDVW Tom Reese
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
Earlier Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote of his slide scanning situation. Shaun - I recently went through the same thing. I may have written here a few weeks ago about scanning several hundred slides taken by my late father in the late 50's and early 60's. My mother had found these in a closet and no one had viewed them for decades. I used a Canon FS4000. It took weeks. The FS4000 doesn't have a bulk scanning attachment for slides so you load 4 at a time. That's probably not a big deal, because the scans take a few minutes each. I did about a dozen slides each evening while I was reading email and doing other things. I'm sure the Nikon or Minolta scanners would work just as well. I scanned most of them as 8 bit color and 2000 ppi. After all, they were taken with an Argus C-3. Anything special I re-scanned at 16 bit color and 4000 dpi. The slides and scans are now all cross referenced so I can find the slides and do a re-scan if necessary. The Kodachromes look as good as the day the were processed. The Ektachromes vary from pretty well preserved to faded but recognizable. I'm encouraged by the results of my experiments in restoring the faded slides using the techniques described by Katrin Eismann in Photoshop Restoration Retouching. At any rate, I feel better now that it's done. I'm in the processes of building slide shows on DVDs. I showed the first DVD to my Mother, my kids and grandkids last weekend. Other than my mother and myself, no one in the room had ever seen these slides before. In fact, none of the others were even born. My oldest son is 29. The grandkids are all single digits. I think DVD's are great for this. I can make a copy of what used to be a one-of-a-kind photo album for each kid that wants one. In addition to the TV formatted slide show, the DVD's contain a copy of the full resolution files. It's kind of a distributed backup system. Now, I need to move on and scan several hundred slides I took in the seventies. After that, it's going to be weeks of scanning old prints on the flatbed scanner. Granted these are family snapshots, not fine art. As tedious as it may be, I'm having a good time with it. Good luck on your project, whatever you do, it's either going to take time or money. See you later, gs
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Yep, I think buying a scanner is going to the only real option left too me Joe. Cheers Shaun Joseph Tainter wrote: Shaun, the Kodal Photo CD service is pretty good. It gives 2400 dpi. Also, a pro lab might be able to scan them for you. But for that many images it will cost you the price of a used scanner. I bought a used Nikon LS 2000 on eBay about 3 years ago for $500 (U.S.). I'll bet they are a lot less now. It does a nice job at 2720 dpi. This is probably your best route. Although I haven't shot any film since last September, I am keeping the scanner. Like you, I have many oldies to scan, and I don't think I am entirely done with film yet. So it will hang around for occasional use. Joe
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No deal Shel. I'm 1,500 kilometres from the nearest place likely to have a scanner of that type, let alone somewhere to rent time on one. I'll be looking for a cheap scanner in time... Cheers Shaun Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi, Have you checked any of the pro-type labs in your area to see if they will rent time on a scanner? Around here there are a few places that'll do that, and they rent time on very high quality Imacon scanners, so the results are quite good. BTW, the Coolscan V is a pretty nice unit, but a Coolscan IV may be an even better deal, especially if you can get it with some accessories. Shel [Original Message] From: Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/19/2004 7:48:17 AM Subject: Re: OT: Slide Dilemma I think I would buy a scanner first Brian, as I would have at least $1200 worth of scans at that rate. A slide scanner, bought on eBay or such, and then resold, would still probably be the best bet., but I can't spare the cash at the moment...other more pressing issues I am afraid. Thanks for the info though. I think I will wait until a second hand Nikon Coolscan V or similar pops up on eBay at the right price.
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
Many of my slides are kodachromes Alan Cheers Shaun Alan Chan wrote: You might search a Minolta Scan Elite F-2900 on eBay. It's cheap and comes with SCSI card, 2820dpi 12bit A/D. The original Minolta software will scan E6 slides nicely (no Kodachrome pls). Alan Chan ICQ: 42516180 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Thanks for the post George. I think I'll end up buying a scanner when my budget allows it. _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
Wow, $69 was a good deal. I think I'll buy a scanner, but money is the problem. I don't have any at the moment Cheers Shaun graywolf wrote: By the time you pay someone to commercially scan 300-400 slides you will have more than paid for a very good film scanner, so you might as well bite the bullet and buy one for yourself. You might look for a good deal on a recently discontinued model. I got an band new HP S-20 for $69 that way a year ago. Found it when doing a Google search for film scanners. The principle works, but bear in mind that the HP S20, if by that Graywolf means the HP Photosmart S20, scans mounted slides one at a time. ERN
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yeah, which is time consuming, but still effective by the sound of it Cheers Shaun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, $69 was a good deal. I think I'll buy a scanner, but money is the problem. I don't have any at the moment Cheers Shaun graywolf wrote: By the time you pay someone to commercially scan 300-400 slides you will have more than paid for a very good film scanner, so you might as well bite the bullet and buy one for yourself. You might look for a good deal on a recently discontinued model. I got an band new HP S-20 for $69 that way a year ago. Found it when doing a Google search for film scanners. The principle works, but bear in mind that the HP S20, if by that Graywolf means the HP Photosmart S20, scans mounted slides one at a time. ERN
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Slide Dilemma The principle works, but bear in mind that the HP S20, if by that Graywolf means the HP Photosmart S20, scans mounted slides one at a time. And doesn't to a good job of Kodachrome, if my Photosmart is any indication. William Robb
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For the money and the feature set, the Nikon Coolscan V looks like a good buy, especially compared to used models available on eBay. That would stretch your budget a bit more though. I've had a Coolscan III since 1997. If I buckle down, I should finish scanning my old slide collection this year. At the moment, my collection of scans is just under 13,000. It has taken a lot of time and effort, but it's great to have all my images in a format that is easy to view and easy to share. Andrew Robinson Dr. Shaun Canning wrote: Thanks for the post George. I think I'll end up buying a scanner when my budget allows it. Cheers Shaun George Sinos wrote: Earlier Dr. Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote of his slide scanning situation. Shaun - I recently went through the same thing. I may have written here a few weeks ago about scanning several hundred slides taken by my late father in the late 50's and early 60's. My mother had found these in a closet and no one had viewed them for decades. I used a Canon FS4000. It took weeks. The FS4000 doesn't have a bulk scanning attachment for slides so you load 4 at a time. That's probably not a big deal, because the scans take a few minutes each. I did about a dozen slides each evening while I was reading email and doing other things. I'm sure the Nikon or Minolta scanners would work just as well. I scanned most of them as 8 bit color and 2000 ppi. After all, they were taken with an Argus C-3. Anything special I re-scanned at 16 bit color and 4000 dpi. The slides and scans are now all cross referenced so I can find the slides and do a re-scan if necessary. The Kodachromes look as good as the day the were processed. The Ektachromes vary from pretty well preserved to faded but recognizable. I'm encouraged by the results of my experiments in restoring the faded slides using the techniques described by Katrin Eismann in Photoshop Restoration Retouching. At any rate, I feel better now that it's done. I'm in the processes of building slide shows on DVDs. I showed the first DVD to my Mother, my kids and grandkids last weekend. Other than my mother and myself, no one in the room had ever seen these slides before. In fact, none of the others were even born. My oldest son is 29. The grandkids are all single digits. I think DVD's are great for this. I can make a copy of what used to be a one-of-a-kind photo album for each kid that wants one. In addition to the TV formatted slide show, the DVD's contain a copy of the full resolution files. It's kind of a distributed backup system. Now, I need to move on and scan several hundred slides I took in the seventies. After that, it's going to be weeks of scanning old prints on the flatbed scanner. Granted these are family snapshots, not fine art. As tedious as it may be, I'm having a good time with it. Good luck on your project, whatever you do, it's either going to take time or money. See you later, gs
Re: OT: Slide Dilemma
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Slide Dilemma The principle works, but bear in mind that the HP S20, if by that Graywolf means the HP Photosmart S20, scans mounted slides one at a time. And doesn't to a good job of Kodachrome, if my Photosmart is any indication. William Robb I must try it again. I rarely use Kodachrome, but I thought I remembered being fairly happy with my scans when I did try the film -- and that would have been the scanner I used. There was another issue I omitted to mention with the S20 and mounted slides. Sometimes the scans are sharp but sometimes they're not. I used to have my slides returned unmounted from the processor because of those two S20 limitations -- one at a time and focus problems. ERN
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I doubt that he would find an S-20 for that price now anyway. Funny thing is you can buy discontinued new stuff on closeout for much less than you can buy used. So, I was not suggesting he try to get the S-20, but that he look for something currently on closeout somewhere. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The principle works, but bear in mind that the HP S20, if by that Graywolf means the HP Photosmart S20, scans mounted slides one at a time. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
