Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Thanks Tim. I appreciate the feedback. I too would have preferred a cleaner background. But he was where he was:-). I did get a few on tree branches, but not this close and not without other obstructions. Paul On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:36 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: The bird itself is very nicely captured. A lot of details, and it is posing good. But I do have a little trouble with the background. There are so many lines leading my eye away from the bird. Despite this, I would have been happy capturing this image myself ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 5. mars 2006 21:42 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg
RE: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
The bird itself is very nicely captured. A lot of details, and it is posing good. But I do have a little trouble with the background. There are so many lines leading my eye away from the bird. Despite this, I would have been happy capturing this image myself ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 5. mars 2006 21:42 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style > > Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed > up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most > of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super > flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier > attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg >
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Thanks Tom. On Mar 8, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Tom C wrote: Wonderful shot there Paul. Again I would crop a little but the bird is perfect. Tom C. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg
RE: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Wonderful shot there Paul. Again I would crop a little but the bird is perfect. Tom C. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg
RE: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Hi Paul thanks for your answer, I will have to think a bit about a solution then ;-) I will use a monopod for that lens... greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:23 PM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: RE: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style >> >> >>I think the shooting distance on my robin was about 20 feet. The >>AF 400T is poweful enough to give you some fill at that distance, >>but you need a camera that will do high speed synch. I think the >>PZ-1P is the only Pentax that allows relatively high speed synch, >>but I could be wrong. I think a shutter speed of at least 1/500th >>is necessary to hand hold with a 500mm lens on a 35mm film >>camera. I shot this guy at 1/750th. The Sigma 500 Super has a >>high synch mode that allows high shutter speeds with the D >>camera, even though the camera's native synch speed is very >>limited. Even the AF400T could benefit from the magnifier. If >>memory serves me correctly, it was inexpensive. I bought it from Kirk. >>Paul >> >> -- Original message -- >>From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Hi Paul >>> do you think that the Pentax AF 400T without a teleadapter or flash >>> magnifier with ISO 200-400 film would be powerful enough for >>that kind of >>> bird shot? What was the shooting distance here? >>> >>> I will get a Tamron SP 500 mirror lens tomorrow and would like >>to try some >>> bird or other animal photography. >>> >>> greetings >>> Markus >>> >>> >>> >>> >>-Original Message- >>> >>From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:16 PM >>> >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>> >>Subject: Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or >>> >>raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, >>> >>and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or >>> >>else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. >>> >>On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> >>> >>>> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of >>spring showed >>> >>>> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen >>throughout most >>> >>>> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the >>Sigma 500 Super >>> >>>> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier >>> >>>> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. >>> >>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* >>> >>> flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart >>> >>> attack ;-). >>> >>> >>> >>> Cool stuff... >>> >>> >>> >>> Boris >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Thanks Frank. Birds can be fun. They never complain when you shoot them :-). No permission needed. Paul -- Original message -- From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 3/5/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed > > up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most > > of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super > > flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier > > attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg > > Cute little fellow. Great shot! > > I haven't seen our first robin of spring yet. Hopefully soon. It's > been colder than seasonal of late (odd, as most of the winter has been > unnaturally mild). > > I really like your photo, though, Paul. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the shooting distance on my robin was about 20 feet. The AF 400T is poweful enough to give you some fill at that distance, but you need a camera that will do high speed synch. I think the PZ-1P is the only Pentax that allows relatively high speed synch, but I could be wrong. I think a shutter speed of at least 1/500th is necessary to hand hold with a 500mm lens on a 35mm film camera. I shot this guy at 1/750th. The Sigma 500 Super has a high synch mode that allows high shutter speeds with the D camera, even though the camera's native synch speed is very limited. Even the AF400T could benefit from the magnifier. If memory serves me correctly, it was inexpensive. I bought it from Kirk. Paul Max synch on the Z1-p is 1/250th. -- Original message -- From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Paul do you think that the Pentax AF 400T without a teleadapter or flash magnifier with ISO 200-400 film would be powerful enough for that kind of bird shot? What was the shooting distance here? I will get a Tamron SP 500 mirror lens tomorrow and would like to try some bird or other animal photography. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:16 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart attack ;-). Cool stuff... Boris
RE: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
I think the shooting distance on my robin was about 20 feet. The AF 400T is poweful enough to give you some fill at that distance, but you need a camera that will do high speed synch. I think the PZ-1P is the only Pentax that allows relatively high speed synch, but I could be wrong. I think a shutter speed of at least 1/500th is necessary to hand hold with a 500mm lens on a 35mm film camera. I shot this guy at 1/750th. The Sigma 500 Super has a high synch mode that allows high shutter speeds with the D camera, even though the camera's native synch speed is very limited. Even the AF400T could benefit from the magnifier. If memory serves me correctly, it was inexpensive. I bought it from Kirk. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Paul > do you think that the Pentax AF 400T without a teleadapter or flash > magnifier with ISO 200-400 film would be powerful enough for that kind of > bird shot? What was the shooting distance here? > > I will get a Tamron SP 500 mirror lens tomorrow and would like to try some > bird or other animal photography. > > greetings > Markus > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:16 PM > >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >>Subject: Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style > >> > >> > >>Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or > >>raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, > >>and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or > >>else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. > >>On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>>> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed > >>>> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most > >>>> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super > >>>> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier > >>>> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. > >>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg > >>> > >>> Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* > >>> flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart > >>> attack ;-). > >>> > >>> Cool stuff... > >>> > >>> Boris > >>> > >> >
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
On 3/5/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed > up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most > of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super > flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier > attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg Cute little fellow. Great shot! I haven't seen our first robin of spring yet. Hopefully soon. It's been colder than seasonal of late (odd, as most of the winter has been unnaturally mild). I really like your photo, though, Paul. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Hi Paul do you think that the Pentax AF 400T without a teleadapter or flash magnifier with ISO 200-400 film would be powerful enough for that kind of bird shot? What was the shooting distance here? I will get a Tamron SP 500 mirror lens tomorrow and would like to try some bird or other animal photography. greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:16 PM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style >> >> >>Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or >>raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, >>and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or >>else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. >>On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>>> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed >>>> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most >>>> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super >>>> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier >>>> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. >>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg >>> >>> Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* >>> flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart >>> attack ;-). >>> >>> Cool stuff... >>> >>> Boris >>> >>
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Hi! Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. *in Mr Data/Dr Spock tone*: Fascinating... Boris
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
On 6/3/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've noticed that lots of animals don't respond to flash at all. >Some cats and dogs really don't like it and will run away if you try >to take flash pictures of them. Most barnyard animals don't react at >all. There something here you're not telling us Bob ? Just in case--->;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
On Mar 6, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. I've noticed that lots of animals don't respond to flash at all. Some cats and dogs really don't like it and will run away if you try to take flash pictures of them. Most barnyard animals don't react at all. Bob
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart attack ;-). Cool stuff... Boris
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Bob Shell wrote: I haven't done much bird photography in recent years. Mostly these days when I go for hikes I just take binoculars and come back with memories. But I used to do a lot of bird photography in earlier times, and may make a return to it when I can take life at a slower pace. I just watch them in the back yard. I've had a go at photographing them a couple of times but it needs too much patience :) I've always wanted to try and get a photo of a fantail but I doubt it'll be possible. They're never still and their flight, despite being quite slow, is so unpredictable that they look drunk (they feed on airborne insects). - Dave
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Hi! Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart attack ;-). Cool stuff... Boris
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Although I've sold a few as stock, I don't shoot birds seriously. But I find it a relaxing diversion. I sometimes walk three miles through the woods without getting off a single shot, cut it's still a good time. Today I got four or five keepers in just a mile or so. That's rare in my experience for anywhere other than a migratory fly zone like Point Pele in Ontario. Speaking of Point Pele I went there last May. Looking forward to making the trip again this year. Some list members are regulars there. On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:30 PM, Bob Shell wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yep. When you've spent some time shooting birds, you come to realize that they're watching you when they're in profile. That's why you have to wait for a shot with the camera in place. If you raise the camera while the bird is in this position, he'll fly away. I haven't done much bird photography in recent years. Mostly these days when I go for hikes I just take binoculars and come back with memories. But I used to do a lot of bird photography in earlier times, and may make a return to it when I can take life at a slower pace. Bob
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yep. When you've spent some time shooting birds, you come to realize that they're watching you when they're in profile. That's why you have to wait for a shot with the camera in place. If you raise the camera while the bird is in this position, he'll fly away. I haven't done much bird photography in recent years. Mostly these days when I go for hikes I just take binoculars and come back with memories. But I used to do a lot of bird photography in earlier times, and may make a return to it when I can take life at a slower pace. Bob
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Yep. When you've spent some time shooting birds, you come to realize that they're watching you when they're in profile. That's why you have to wait for a shot with the camera in place. If you raise the camera while the bird is in this position, he'll fly away. Paul On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Bob Shell wrote: On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: A technically well done shot. The only downside for me is the bird is just sitting there - almost like it was stuffed. Somehow I'd like it be actively doing something. As it is, it would be a great shot for learning what this particular bird looks like. Food for thought. It is doing something. It is staring intently at the photographer in an "alert" pose. Birds like this "robin" with eyes on the side of their head are looking at you when the side of their head is toward you. They arrived here last week, and the males like this fellow are busy picking out their territories and squabbling with other males over the prime real estate so they'll be all set when the females arrive. Sort of reminds me of the people around here! Bob
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: A technically well done shot. The only downside for me is the bird is just sitting there - almost like it was stuffed. Somehow I'd like it be actively doing something. As it is, it would be a great shot for learning what this particular bird looks like. Food for thought. It is doing something. It is staring intently at the photographer in an "alert" pose. Birds like this "robin" with eyes on the side of their head are looking at you when the side of their head is toward you. They arrived here last week, and the males like this fellow are busy picking out their territories and squabbling with other males over the prime real estate so they'll be all set when the females arrive. Sort of reminds me of the people around here! Bob
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Hello Paul, A technically well done shot. The only downside for me is the bird is just sitting there - almost like it was stuffed. Somehow I'd like it be actively doing something. As it is, it would be a great shot for learning what this particular bird looks like. Food for thought. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, March 5, 2006, 12:42:04 PM, you wrote: PS> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed PS> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most PS> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super PS> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier PS> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. PS> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg
Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style
Nice picture! Our European Robin's would abandon their territory immediately after spotting this giant. Toine On 3/5/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed > up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most > of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super > flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier > attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg > >
