Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
I'm late to the party but I'll chime in, much like Doug my income is highly variable these days (photography being what it is) but still I value the work-flow inherent in LR enough to submit to their ransom-ware tactics (which I loathe). I stay within LR for most of my edits if possible and venture out to PS only when absolutely necessary, all my images are accessible via a single catalogue (as I am regularly required to delve into past shoots) and it's currently sitting at just shy of 600k images without a hitch. In the last year I've also been running an Xtouch Mini MIDI mixer via MIDI2LR to facilitate direct control of my major adjustments and image selection and this has significantly increased the pace of my work-flow when managing larger shoots. On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 09:49, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 24.11.19 um 20:48 schrieb Steve Cottrell: > > > I'm still using Final Cut Pro 7 and so unless I want to make the jump to > > FCPX, I have no choice. > > > > And I don't want to make the jump. > > Same here for various software and I'd hate to give up the only surround > sound headphone system that's ever worked for me. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Am 24.11.19 um 20:48 schrieb Steve Cottrell: I'm still using Final Cut Pro 7 and so unless I want to make the jump to FCPX, I have no choice. And I don't want to make the jump. Same here for various software and I'd hate to give up the only surround sound headphone system that's ever worked for me. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
On 24/11/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >Nothing wrong with that. I'm still using Final Cut Pro 7 and so unless I want to make the jump to FCPX, I have no choice. And I don't want to make the jump. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 23/11/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >So, I'm afraid I and many of us will be stuck with Mojave for a long > >time to come. > > Holding at El Capitan indefinitely! > Moi too Dave > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and > || (O) |Live Broadcast News > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Am 24.11.19 um 18:42 schrieb Steve Cottrell: Holding at El Capitan indefinitely! Nothing wrong with that. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
On 23/11/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: >So, I'm afraid I and many of us will be stuck with Mojave for a long >time to come. Holding at El Capitan indefinitely! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Larry, I bought the last non-ransomware version of Lightroom and didn't bother even installing until almost two years later! The "dehaze" tool was a useful addition but other than that it didn't have anything to recommend it over previous versions as far as I'm concerned. I can't see any reason to upgrade further, myself. If you really need better HDR and panorama tools you'll get better results with specialized third-party applications and probably save money, too. Photomatix Pro is the benchmark for HDR and it's only $99.00 and worth twice that, at least. There are several panorama apps that better Pholtoshop and Lightroom for prices between $30 and $100. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
> > Lightroom 6.14 runs okay on MacOS Mojave. It runs “ok” on Catalina also, as > long as you installed Catalina over an existing Mojave system with LR already > installed. It’s the Adobe installer/license management app that doesn’t run > on Catalina preventing LR 6 installation. > > My solution to this and other future Adobe nonsense is to freeze my 2012 Mac > mini at Mojave and use it as a backup for when I need to access currently > existing LR work. I purchased a new 2019 Mac mini with far more processing > power and RAM that came preinstalled with Catalina, and am building a new > Adobe free and MS free working environment on it for new work going forwards. > > I see no purpose to moving backwards to assure compatibility with already > obsolete software. > > G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Lightroom 6.14 runs okay on MacOS Mojave. It runs “ok” on Catalina also, as long as you installed Catalina over an existing Mojave system with LR already installed. It’s the Adobe installer/license management app that doesn’t run on Catalina preventing LR 6 installation. My solution to this and other future Adobe nonsense is to freeze my 2012 Mac mini at Mojave and use it as a backup for when I need to access currently existing LR work. I purchased a new 2019 Mac mini with far more processing power and RAM that came preinstalled with Catalina, and am building a new Adobe free and MS free working environment on it for new work going forwards. I see no purpose to moving backwards to assure compatibility with already obsolete software. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
HDR and panorama functions don't do anything for me whatsoever. I don't use face recognition or GPS info because I know who it is and where I am most of the time. Having said that, I use LR Classic and gladly pay the monthly because it's as much a part of my photography as my cameras, electricity, and bills for studio time, and my income is likely at this point in time more uncertain than yours. 99% of my editing is LR, with the periodic visit to PS for layers or a more molecular edit if necessary, maybe a content-aware fill here and there, but the cataloging function and workflow ecosystem of LR is arguably more important to me. I can't tell you what features of the program are going to be important enough to you to justify the cost. I can say that a few bucks a month is easier for me to cover than the full price package, so I live with it in order to stay functional and on top of the very many moving parts of my current work. On 11/22/19 5:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it does have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports. It had OSX Mojave installed on it, which it turns out won’t run LR 6. I’m in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6. I was happy to upgrade lightroom every couple of years. However, when they went to ransomware, I declined. My income is uncertain these days and I don’t want to be committed to paying an annual ransom to not be locked out of working on my photos. I just haven’t had time to try out alternatives to lightroom and make the switch. LR 6 had a couple of new features that I considered pretty cool, HDR and panoramas. The face recognition is kind of nifty, but not as nifty as character recognition would be. They also work pretty well, but have enough shortcomings that I’m not entirely happy with them. Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would make it worth $120 per year? Mind you I have practically no interest in photo shop, certainly not enough to pay any extra for it. Side question. I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to just copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration assistant won’t seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted internal drive, so I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which is going to take 2 hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the external drive. Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Am 23.11.19 um 14:26 schrieb Jan van Wijk: It is the reason I will NOT upgrade my latest macBook to 10.15 Catalina for now. Given that Mojave appears to be the last OSX version that runs 32 bit software, an upgrade to Catalina would be software suicide for most of us. I keep getting those "Your software isn't optimized..." messages since I upgraded to Mojave, so I guess I'd lose a few essential pieces of software that can't be easily replaced because there are no 64 versions available. I'm still using Microsoft Expression Media 2 for cataloguing and browsing my audio files (recorded soundscapes, not music) and can't find a modern replacement. My Beyerdynamic Headzone Pro surround headphone system has only 32 bit software, so I'd even lose the use of some of my hardware. So, I'm afraid I and many of us will be stuck with Mojave for a long time to come. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Hi Larry, On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 14:55:36 -0800 Larry Colen wrote: > >I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than >mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it >does have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports. It had OSX Mojave installed on it, which it turns out wont run LR 6. > >Im in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6. As I think you discovered by now, LR6 DOES run on macOS 10.14, Mojave. It is the reason I will NOT upgrade my latest macBook to 10.15 Catalina for now. I am run LR 6.14 without any problems really ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com Flickr : jvw_pentax -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
Am 22.11.19 um 23:55 schrieb Larry Colen: Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would make it worth $120 per year? That depends on what *you* must have... To me, the library side is at least as important as the RAW development. Also, I have 'bought' Lightroom Classic because the map function in LR6 was broken and I use it to quickly find out what photos I have from a particular location when I want to illustrate one of my blog posts. Next, I'd hate to be without lens profiles. And lastly LR not only accepts RAW but also TIFF which is the format of my film scans. These are my must haves, yours may differ. You might want to have a look at RAW Power. It offers about 90 percent of the functionality of Lightroom at a fraction of the price. I even doubt that I had bought Lightroom Classic if I'd been aware of RAW Power at the time. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > You might want to take a look at On1 Photo RAW 2020 as a replacement for LR. > There will be a learning curve but it's a pretty powerful program which > includes HDR, panoramas, focus stacking and their resize engine is based on > Genuine Fractals. The 30 day trial is fully functional and if you don't like > it you can dump it. I still have LR6 on my machine but I don't think I've > used it in more than 6 months. Cool, thanks. I just looked at it. Unfortunately my main machine (early 2009 mac pro) won’t run the 64 bit OS, and On 1 2020 won’t run on the earlier OSX. Moving to On1 would mean investing in a new computer, which isn’t in my budget this week. Mind you a modern mac that would support internal drives won’t be available for a while, and when it is the buy in for a new mac pro would be far beyond my personal budget. I’m also planning on looking at darktable, which has the advantage of also running on Linux. A Linux box would be a lot more affordable than a mac pro and a lot more user friendly than Windows. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
You might want to take a look at On1 Photo RAW 2020 as a replacement for LR. There will be a learning curve but it's a pretty powerful program which includes HDR, panoramas, focus stacking and their resize engine is based on Genuine Fractals. The 30 day trial is fully functional and if you don't like it you can dump it. I still have LR6 on my machine but I don't think I've used it in more than 6 months. -p On 11/22/2019 4:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I recently came into the possession of a macbook pro that is a lot newer than mine, the downside is it only has a 1TB drive, and no ethernet port, but it does have USB 3 and two thunderbolt ports. It had OSX Mojave installed on it, which it turns out won’t run LR 6. I’m in the process of installing High Sierra, so that I can run LR 6. I was happy to upgrade lightroom every couple of years. However, when they went to ransomware, I declined. My income is uncertain these days and I don’t want to be committed to paying an annual ransom to not be locked out of working on my photos. I just haven’t had time to try out alternatives to lightroom and make the switch. LR 6 had a couple of new features that I considered pretty cool, HDR and panoramas. The face recognition is kind of nifty, but not as nifty as character recognition would be. They also work pretty well, but have enough shortcomings that I’m not entirely happy with them. Are there any absolutely must have features of the current lightroom that would make it worth $120 per year? Mind you I have practically no interest in photo shop, certainly not enough to pay any extra for it. Side question. I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to just copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration assistant won’t seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted internal drive, so I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which is going to take 2 hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the external drive. Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the advantages of ransomware Lightroom? Also copying off an external drive
> > Side question. I’ve got what I want on an external drive and I’d love to > just copy that over, but if I boot off the external drive, migration > assistant won’t seem to just transfer everything to the recently formatted > internal drive, so I’m doing the long slow installation of High Sierra, which > is going to take 2 hours, before I can even start the copy of data off the > external drive. > > Is there a quicker way to do this that I’m missing? update: it’s possible it would have run on Mojave, after I upgraded back to High Sierra, I still had the same problem, ended up having to reinstall LR6 from a DMG. It’s now working. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.