Re: Where are the rumors?
It was but the K-x continued in the line at least in some places. The K-7 is still a current product in the US but has been discontinued in Japan for some time. On 6/9/2011 2:36 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Did I miss something? I thought the K-r was the K-x replacement. -p On 6/9/2011 1:09 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Somehow I missed the news that the K-x was being discontinued (in Japan) and is getting harder to find here. Wonder if they are planning a replacement for it or if the product line is being shrunk to small (K-r) medium (K-5) and large (645D). If there was a new model coming out, I would expect it to replace the K-x. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would better like some nice rumors on future lenses. The bodies, especially K-5 are really good enough. So, where are the h*** are the SDM-capable TCs? Long-waited supertele lenses?? Fast wide-angles ??? Or at least DA* 16-50/2.8 Mk2 without any stupid problems... BR, Margus On 6/8/2011 22:52, Leon Altoff wrote: Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Margus Männik wrote: So, where are the h*** are the SDM-capable TCs? Long-waited supertele lenses?? Fast wide-angles ??? Or at least DA* 16-50/2.8 Mk2 without any stupid problems... Ditto. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: snip Rumors don't make products show up any faster. MARK! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Boris, I don't want to participate in growing the rumors, I'm just curious as to if there is another camera on the horizon. The Australian dollar is doing well at the moment and it's possibly a good time to buy a new camera, but if I buy one and then 2 months later they announce a camera with even better low light abilities (which is really about the only thing I can think of to add to the K-5 with the possible exception of autofocus during videos), I'd feel a little cheated. I know some people here get access to information and I was hoping to get just a little suggestion of Not this year which seems to be the consensus of opinion or maybe Just wait a few months it will be worth it. If I can't prove an upgrade is on the way by late August I will probably head out and buy a K5, but I'm more of an early adopter than buying the end of a line. Leon On 9 June 2011 15:05, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Leon, can it simply be that K-5 is good enough for like 90% of those who actively participated in rumours and pre-release discussions of K-7 and K-5? Or in other words, we don't have sufficiently many rumour perpetrators left for any rumours to get started... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 09/06/2011 1:28 AM, Leon Altoff wrote: Hi Boris, I don't want to participate in growing the rumors, I'm just curious as to if there is another camera on the horizon. The Australian dollar is doing well at the moment and it's possibly a good time to buy a new camera, but if I buy one and then 2 months later they announce a camera with even better low light abilities (which is really about the only thing I can think of to add to the K-5 with the possible exception of autofocus during videos), I'd feel a little cheated. I know some people here get access to information and I was hoping to get just a little suggestion of Not this year which seems to be the consensus of opinion or maybe Just wait a few months it will be worth it. If I can't prove an upgrade is on the way by late August I will probably head out and buy a K5, but I'm more of an early adopter than buying the end of a line. When I was talking to the rep last month, he mentioned that the K5 would be taking them through to 2012 at least. I wouldn't expect another camera for a year or so. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Eh, it's like computers, you have to buy when you are ready, not when the camera you really want is ready. If you keep waiting, you'll never get one. You can always sell and upgrade when the new camera comes out. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Boris, I don't want to participate in growing the rumors, I'm just curious as to if there is another camera on the horizon. The Australian dollar is doing well at the moment and it's possibly a good time to buy a new camera, but if I buy one and then 2 months later they announce a camera with even better low light abilities (which is really about the only thing I can think of to add to the K-5 with the possible exception of autofocus during videos), I'd feel a little cheated. I know some people here get access to information and I was hoping to get just a little suggestion of Not this year which seems to be the consensus of opinion or maybe Just wait a few months it will be worth it. If I can't prove an upgrade is on the way by late August I will probably head out and buy a K5, but I'm more of an early adopter than buying the end of a line. Leon On 9 June 2011 15:05, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Leon, can it simply be that K-5 is good enough for like 90% of those who actively participated in rumours and pre-release discussions of K-7 and K-5? Or in other words, we don't have sufficiently many rumour perpetrators left for any rumours to get started... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: When I was talking to the rep last month, he mentioned that the K5 would be taking them through to 2012 at least. I wouldn't expect another camera for a year or so. There's a rumour that Sony will be announcing 24 MP APS-C sensor soon enough. There is no knowing if this is correct and if Pentax will get their hands on this sensor and when. I feel like siding with Godfrey here - K-5 is quite fine and although there are things to improve, they're mostly bug fixing. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Mensaje original - De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com There's a rumour that Sony will be announcing 24 MP APS-C sensor soon enough. There is no knowing if this is correct and if Pentax will get their hands on this sensor and when. I feel like siding with Godfrey here - K-5 is quite fine and although there are things to improve, they're mostly bug fixing. Boris, I would like to hear a bit more about the K5 'bugs' that you mention. As you know I am considering to upgrade, although recently I am not sure if I should move to yet another DSLR (very similar in weight and bulk to my current K20D) or take a more seriously look at the mirrorless world despite my EVF allergy. I am looking for similar IQ in a more compact package with the bonus of a better video mode (I don't shoot to much viedo but that's partly because i am lazy to carry also my miniDV camera, that is is also starting to fail in its mechanical side). Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 9, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com There's a rumour that Sony will be announcing 24 MP APS-C sensor soon enough. There is no knowing if this is correct and if Pentax will get their hands on this sensor and when. I feel like siding with Godfrey here - K-5 is quite fine and although there are things to improve, they're mostly bug fixing. Boris, I would like to hear a bit more about the K5 'bugs' that you mention. As you know I am considering to upgrade, although recently I am not sure if I should move to yet another DSLR (very similar in weight and bulk to my current K20D) or take a more seriously look at the mirrorless world despite my EVF allergy. I am looking for similar IQ in a more compact package with the bonus of a better video mode (I don't shoot to much viedo but that's partly because i am lazy to carry also my miniDV camera, that is is also starting to fail in its mechanical side). Regards, Jaume I've racked up 20,000 frames on a K5, and I'm not aware of any bugs, but perhaps they elude me due to my work methods. I also use it quite a bit for video and find it excellent in that regard, although I'm not an accomplished video shooter by any means. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/9/2011 10:28, Leon Altoff wrote: Hi Boris, I don't want to participate in growing the rumors, I'm just curious as to if there is another camera on the horizon. The Australian dollar is doing well at the moment and it's possibly a good time to buy a new camera, but if I buy one and then 2 months later they announce a camera with even better low light abilities (which is really about the only thing I can think of to add to the K-5 with the possible exception of autofocus during videos), I'd feel a little cheated. I know some people here get access to information and I was hoping to get just a little suggestion of Not this year which seems to be the consensus of opinion or maybe Just wait a few months it will be worth it. I see. It is very hard to say. I think it mostly depends on the person, really. Some are content with buying whatever gear they have to choose from at the moment. Others are more of an early adopter kind. K-5 is a good, sound, solid camera. Will the next model be better - very likely. But that's entirely Captain Triviality talk. If I can't prove an upgrade is on the way by late August I will probably head out and buy a K5, but I'm more of an early adopter than buying the end of a line. I don't think an upgrade is coming within 2 months from now. Mostly I base my opinion on the fact that both K-7 and K-5 had a lot of PR going for them before they were introduced. Like the web page that showed a silhouette of a camera slowly revealing it day by day and rumours and forum flame wars (which I believe were instigated by some people who knew but were under NDA and so they played the linguistics games), etc. It is all quiet now, so it may be that K-5 is here to say for some while. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/9/2011 17:35, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Boris, I would like to hear a bit more about the K5 'bugs' that you mention. I replied off-list because I don't want to start yet another flame, no matter how small or big. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/9/2011 18:31, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've racked up 20,000 frames on a K5, and I'm not aware of any bugs, but perhaps they elude me due to my work methods. I also use it quite a bit for video and find it excellent in that regard, although I'm not an accomplished video shooter by any means. Paul Paul, is there a way in which I can convince you to part with your DA* 16-50/2.8 for my benefit? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Somehow I missed the news that the K-x was being discontinued (in Japan) and is getting harder to find here. Wonder if they are planning a replacement for it or if the product line is being shrunk to small (K-r) medium (K-5) and large (645D). If there was a new model coming out, I would expect it to replace the K-x. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Did I miss something? I thought the K-r was the K-x replacement. -p On 6/9/2011 1:09 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Somehow I missed the news that the K-x was being discontinued (in Japan) and is getting harder to find here. Wonder if they are planning a replacement for it or if the product line is being shrunk to small (K-r) medium (K-5) and large (645D). If there was a new model coming out, I would expect it to replace the K-x. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They were offered side-by-side for quite a while, so I didn't consider it a replacement, but maybe Pentax did. The K-r was introduced in Sept. 2010 and the K-x wasn't discontinued until the end of March 2011. As one author opined on his blog: It would have been a mistake to replace the K-x with a totally redesigned DSLR because of its popularity. So the Pentax K-r was born, but with the same heart, the 12.4mp CMOS sensor. I guess that is the question: Is the K-r the new entry level or is there going to be a new one below it (the spot the K-x formerly occupied)? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Did I miss something? I thought the K-r was the K-x replacement. -p On 6/9/2011 1:09 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Somehow I missed the news that the K-x was being discontinued (in Japan) and is getting harder to find here. Wonder if they are planning a replacement for it or if the product line is being shrunk to small (K-r) medium (K-5) and large (645D). If there was a new model coming out, I would expect it to replace the K-x. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What would be fine for me is as follows: use and improve the Eos RT system which is a fixed translucent mirror like Sony SLT but keeps the optical VF. Add an hybrid VF a la Fuji and you have both EVF and OvF and both Phase detect af and contrast af. That would be awesome IMO. Le jeudi 9 juin 2011, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com a écrit : On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:19 PM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: When I was talking to the rep last month, he mentioned that the K5 would be taking them through to 2012 at least. I wouldn't expect another camera for a year or so. There's a rumour that Sony will be announcing 24 MP APS-C sensor soon enough. There is no knowing if this is correct and if Pentax will get their hands on this sensor and when. I feel like siding with Godfrey here - K-5 is quite fine and although there are things to improve, they're mostly bug fixing. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Of all the things the transition to DSLR has dropped on us old film folks, the hardest one for me to accept is a mirrorless camera. So I am not anticipating any new thrust into that arena by Pentax with longing. A smaller, lighter camera is for street shooting or grabs (IMHO). Though what I do most of the time is action shots of the canine variety, I think a lighter camera would accentuate my inability to hold my hands absolutely still. The weight of the K-7 helps in that regard. Of course, I have the 60-250 attached much of the time, which gives me lots of stability at the longer focal lengths because of all that weight. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jun 8, 2011, at 14:35 , John Francis wrote: I doubt if a K-5 replacement is next on the Pentax front, anyway. As others have pointed out, a mirrorless camera system seems more likely to be the next product. That, in turn, mill have an effect on the low-end DSLR market, and on the point-and-shoot market, so I would think a new model in one or both of those will come next. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 01:59:54PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: Of all the things the transition to DSLR has dropped on us old film folks, the hardest one for me to accept is a mirrorless camera. There were mirrorless cameras long before digital came along, of course. Some people see the advent of the digital mirrorless systems more as a return to the old ways. The enthusiasm with which the X100 has been received certainly suggests that there is a market for mirrorless systems, quite apart from the success of the micro four thirds cameras. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I really don't see the DSLR going away for quite a while. As John said, we get the small camera back with RF style mirrorless bodies. A DSLR and a MILC is a nice combo. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Of all the things the transition to DSLR has dropped on us old film folks, the hardest one for me to accept is a mirrorless camera. So I am not anticipating any new thrust into that arena by Pentax with longing. A smaller, lighter camera is for street shooting or grabs (IMHO). Though what I do most of the time is action shots of the canine variety, I think a lighter camera would accentuate my inability to hold my hands absolutely still. The weight of the K-7 helps in that regard. Of course, I have the 60-250 attached much of the time, which gives me lots of stability at the longer focal lengths because of all that weight. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac On Jun 8, 2011, at 14:35 , John Francis wrote: I doubt if a K-5 replacement is next on the Pentax front, anyway. As others have pointed out, a mirrorless camera system seems more likely to be the next product. That, in turn, mill have an effect on the low-end DSLR market, and on the point-and-shoot market, so I would think a new model in one or both of those will come next. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You don't much time at PentaxForums do you? :) People love to randomly make shit up as rumors. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about what's next. -Original Message- From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:52:41 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Where are the rumors? Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maybe because the K-5 is perfect, at least for those who don´t need video :-) DagT Den 8. juni 2011 kl. 22.06 skrev drd1...@gmail.com: It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about what's next. -Original Message- From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:52:41 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Where are the rumors? Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well not much rumours for Pentax. There is nothing about the K-line, all the rumours going around are focusing on the mirrorless systems of Pentax. One being APS-C (I do believe the NC-1 pictures floating around is the APS-C or 4/3 one) and one being a small sensor one (some says it's called Pentax Q) and one of them is rumoured to be based on the Auto 110 system (I bet that's the small sensor one) The companies in focus for rumours are: Sony - Nex C3, A35, 30mm macro lens and a new flash for the Nex are announced today, but there is more to come. A77, Nex 7 and one more camera will be announced soon, most likely the 7th of July (7/7 for the A77... cheeky :D) Panasonic - G3 is out and there is a rumoured GF3 with ultra small body, few pictures already floating the net so it's just matter of days to get announced Olympus - EPL3 and one real small camera to be announced soon Samsung - They are the main thread in the rumor mill. NX20, NX200 and 85 f1.4 will be announced soon. One the cameras might be a Leica M9 / Fuji X100 like and there is a rumoured square sensor mirrorless Medium Format like camera-box :) Nikon - not much, mirrorless will have smaller than 4/3 sensor (2.5-2.8x crop factor) Canon - Who cares? :) Holga - Open Source mirrorless camera project. Sounds interesting and a good idea. .t - Original Message - From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:52 PM Subject: Where are the rumors? Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The 645D was next and it's making all kinds of waves of it's own. And I'm still figuring out how to take full advantage of the K5. I suppose the next step is a full frame sensor for the K5. I would like a fast DFA 400 mm or even DFA 300 mm. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:06 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about what's next. -Original Message- From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:52:41 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Where are the rumors? Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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When a company produces a good camera that I like, buy and start using, I generally prefer that they produce it for several years rather than change it a year later. Rumors don't make products show up any faster. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Pentax is not going Full Frame, it was stated by Hoya many times. .t - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Where are the rumors? The 645D was next and it's making all kinds of waves of it's own. And I'm still figuring out how to take full advantage of the K5. I suppose the next step is a full frame sensor for the K5. I would like a fast DFA 400 mm or even DFA 300 mm. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:06 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about what's next. -Original Message- From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:52:41 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Where are the rumors? Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 08:06:42PM +, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about what's next. Well, what's missing? The K-5 addressed practically all the criticisms of the K-7. and added the astounding low-light capabilities of the new sensors. I was glad to see the faster frame rate, return to Sony sensors (there seemed to be more complaints about colour fidelity in the K20/K-7 than there were with the older-generation cameras), the 14-bit RAW files, and the improvements in auto-focus. The reason I haven't got a K-5 in my camera bag is financial, not technical. There are still some places where the ergonomics could be tweaked slightly, and a flip-out screen (as on the Nikon D5100) would be nice. Beyond that, it's not clear that Pentax sell into the right market for things such as wireless connectivity, dual SD slots, c. I doubt if a K-5 replacement is next on the Pentax front, anyway. As others have pointed out, a mirrorless camera system seems more likely to be the next product. That, in turn, mill have an effect on the low-end DSLR market, and on the point-and-shoot market, so I would think a new model in one or both of those will come next. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K5 already offers so much that I feel a little guilty for not having taken advantage of all it's features. Looking anxiously forward to the rest of the adventure. Jack --- On Wed, 6/8/11, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com Subject: Where are the rumors? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 12:52 PM Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 8, 2011, at 16:35, John Francis wrote: The reason I haven't got a K-5 in my camera bag is financial, not technical. Amen. If I could, I'd be ordering a K5 today. But I want to stay married.. and want to be able to pay for my son's last year of college, and -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Leon Altoff wrote: Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? I think we won't see it this year. The K-5 is an excellent camera, the best in its class, and is selling well. Any other Pentax product has priority on the K-5 successor. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 8, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Peter Zalabai wrote: Pentax is not going Full Frame, it was stated by Hoya many times. Agreed. For those who want a larger sensor, there's the 645D. Paul .t - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:13 PM Subject: Re: Where are the rumors? The 645D was next and it's making all kinds of waves of it's own. And I'm still figuring out how to take full advantage of the K5. I suppose the next step is a full frame sensor for the K5. I would like a fast DFA 400 mm or even DFA 300 mm. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:06 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It's a good point. Since the K5 we've heard little speculation about what's next. -Original Message- From: Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 05:52:41 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Where are the rumors? Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? The K10 had a production run of 2 years but the K20 and K7 only ran for 1 year before being replaced. On that record the K3 (?) should be appearing soon - or at least start being talked about. I keep looking at the K5's low light performance (the only thing I'm not happy with in the K7). And then I think the next model should be even better, but I hate waiting. So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? Leon Oh come on. I tried saving up for the K20, and the K7, I almost have the $ for a K-5 and i may miss out. Not fair.:-) dAVE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So, is this a sign of a bit of plateauing for digital bodies? On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:15 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't it about time for the rumors about the K5 replacement to start appearing? Leon Oh come on. I tried saving up for the K20, and the K7, I almost have the $ for a K-5 and i may miss out. Not fair.:-) dAVE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:09:15PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote: So, is this a sign of a bit of plateauing for digital bodies? Well, DSLRs, anyway. I would expect more and more of the market will migrate to mirrorless systems or true HD (or better) video systems, while the low-end point-and-shoots will be squeezed out by phone cameras. DSLRs will stick around for a while, but I don't expect to see them upgrading with the frequency we've seen in the past decade. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: So where are the rumors about the next camera. What are the must have features that will sell it? Or are we reaching the point where advancement is slowing simply because technology can't keep up? Leon, can it simply be that K-5 is good enough for like 90% of those who actively participated in rumours and pre-release discussions of K-7 and K-5? Or in other words, we don't have sufficiently many rumour perpetrators left for any rumours to get started... -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: So, is this a sign of a bit of plateauing for digital bodies? Far as I'm concerned, digital SLR cameras have been on a plateau for several years. Refinements have been more incremental than quantum leaps since 2007. But regards new products and the usual silliness of rumors, do remember that Japan suffered a devastating natural catastrophe just 90 days ago. Product plans of all major manufacturers have been perturbed on that basis. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
