Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-08 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Actually, in the old days =mid-sixties' WA weren't exactly great
performers. When you multiplied their faults x 2 + added the faults of
the teleconverter you got rather soft pictures. But like a lot of the
photographic rules we seem to be slaves to it doesn't much apply to
today's equipment. Also, true WA, not retrofocus, protrude too far out
the back of the mount to use a teleconverer.

Ciao,
graywolf



William Robb wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dan Scott
 Subject: RE: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best
 combo?
 
  Why? What happens?
 
 Just for fun, I stuck the only teleconverter I had easily at
 hand, which is a Takumar 2x onto the LX and put the A 24mm f/2.8
 on. I could see no signs of vignetting, which is what I was
 expecting to see.
 I then tried the same thing with the A 20mm f/2.8 and also saw
 no signs of vignetting in the finder. I opened the back and
 tripped the shutter on B, and was able to see a full image
 circle from the corners of the film plane.
 Focussing is fine, and metering is fine.
 I had always thought that there would be serious vignetting with
 a wide angle and a teleconverter. I am not saying there won't be
 with some combination, but with the two lenses I tried and the
 teleconverter I tried, it appears to be a viable combination.
 William Robb
 
 
  Kent wrote:
  As far as I know you can't use a TC with a wide angle lens of
 24mm. I think
  about 50mm is the lower limit.
  Kent Gittings
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RE: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-07 Thread Kent Gittings

As far as I know you can't use a TC with a wide angle lens of 24mm. I think
about 50mm is the lower limit.
Kent Gittings

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I know I would never go this route, but since you asked, my solution is:
24mm, 100mm macro, 2X-TC
This will cover 24, 48, 100 and 200mm.

regards,
Alan Chan

We haven't a good equipment argument make the rounds for awhile.

My question,

if you had to limit yourself to two (2) Pentax _primes_ and one (1) Pentax
teleconverter, which ones and why? (i.e. how would that combo support your
style of photography better than some other combo?)

Anyone game?


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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-07 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

24mm
50mm
1.4x

With these angles you get (a) groups, (b) individuals, and (c) close-ups.
These would be my picks for general-purpose work.

Right now, the primes I use are 35mm, 50mm,  100mm. I own but rarely use a 2x.  It 
just sits there.  I'll keep the 35mm when I can afford a 24mm.  It's just too 
practical.

My 2c,

Collin
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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-07 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Dan Scott
Subject: RE: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best
combo?


 Why? What happens?

Just for fun, I stuck the only teleconverter I had easily at
hand, which is a Takumar 2x onto the LX and put the A 24mm f/2.8
on. I could see no signs of vignetting, which is what I was
expecting to see.
I then tried the same thing with the A 20mm f/2.8 and also saw
no signs of vignetting in the finder. I opened the back and
tripped the shutter on B, and was able to see a full image
circle from the corners of the film plane.
Focussing is fine, and metering is fine.
I had always thought that there would be serious vignetting with
a wide angle and a teleconverter. I am not saying there won't be
with some combination, but with the two lenses I tried and the
teleconverter I tried, it appears to be a viable combination.
William Robb


 Kent wrote:
 As far as I know you can't use a TC with a wide angle lens of
24mm. I think
 about 50mm is the lower limit.
 Kent Gittings
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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-07 Thread Dan Scott

Yeah! The Empiricist strikes again...

Any chance of you sharing some shots taken with the combo?

Dan Scott
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Wm Robb wrote:

Just for fun, I stuck the only teleconverter I had easily at
hand, which is a Takumar 2x onto the LX and put the A 24mm f/2.8
on. I could see no signs of vignetting, which is what I was
expecting to see.
I then tried the same thing with the A 20mm f/2.8 and also saw
no signs of vignetting in the finder. I opened the back and
tripped the shutter on B, and was able to see a full image
circle from the corners of the film plane.
Focussing is fine, and metering is fine.
I had always thought that there would be serious vignetting with
a wide angle and a teleconverter. I am not saying there won't be
with some combination, but with the two lenses I tried and the
teleconverter I tried, it appears to be a viable combination.
William Robb
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RE: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-07 Thread Doug Franklin

Hi Kent,

On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:26:36 -0500, Kent Gittings wrote:

 As far as I know you can't use a TC with a wide angle lens of 24mm. I think
 about 50mm is the lower limit.

Several people have made comments like that on this thread, and it has
me asking Why?  I've never tried it, but it doesn't, on the surface,
seem an absurd notion.

TTYL, DougF
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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread Alan Chan

I know I would never go this route, but since you asked, my solution is:
24mm, 100mm macro, 2X-TC
This will cover 24, 48, 100 and 200mm.

regards,
Alan Chan

We haven't a good equipment argument make the rounds for awhile.

My question,

if you had to limit yourself to two (2) Pentax _primes_ and one (1) Pentax
teleconverter, which ones and why? (i.e. how would that combo support your
style of photography better than some other combo?)

Anyone game?


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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread Alan Chan

  I know I would never go this route, but since you asked, my solution is:
  24mm, 100mm macro, 2X-TC
  This will cover 24, 48, 100 and 200mm.

Are you sure about this? I doubt any 24mm + 2x combo would give a usable
image.

That's why I said I would never go this route.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

 I've been faced with situations where I needed a long lens and a fairly
 wide lens, but didn't want to take a bag big enough for my 400. In those
 cases, I pack my M200/4, an AS2X converter, and the M35/2. However, I have
 never tried the 35 with the converter. But with a range of 35, 200, and
 400, I can get by on certain situations that require long lenses but offer
 some medium wide shots as well.

Paul Stenquist
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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread Mark Roberts

My picks would be the FA 43 f1.9 Limited and the FA 100 f2.8 macro and the F
1.7x AF-TC. (I'd never use the 43/1.9 with the teleconverter!)

A good normal lens is a must and the 100mm would serve as a short tele as well
as a macro.

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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:18:45 -0600, you wrote:

We haven't a good equipment argument make the rounds for awhile.

My question,

if you had to limit yourself to two (2) Pentax _primes_ and one (1) Pentax
teleconverter, which ones and why? (i.e. how would that combo support your
style of photography better than some other combo?)

Anyone game?

Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'd go for the A 50/1.2, the K 200/2.5, and the Pentax 1.7X AF
adapter, mostly because I own these lenses and like them very much.
That would give decent low light performance at 50mm; a moderate tele
of 85mm (probably only good at f5.6); a fast 200mm; and a pretty good
semi-AF 340mm lens. Lots of options.

But I'd cheat and sneak an M-series 20/4 in the bag while Dan wasn't
looking, then give him a good whack with the 600/4 I hid in the trunk
if he complained about me cheating ;-)

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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread Chris Brogden

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Have you used it much yet?  How do you like it compared to the A24~50?

I used it a fair bit, but not a lot.  I like the 4x6's I've seen from it,
but I haven't had anything enlarged from it yet.  It fared much better
than the A24-50/4 in a casual test I did, but I determined later that the
24-50 focuses past infinity, possibly because of a misaligned element, so
that could make a difference.  In any case, I've decided to sell the
24-50.  It's a hard decision whether to go with the 24-35, or with both a
K24/3.5 (which I have) and a K35/2 (would need to find).
 
 What's with the K24/3.5?  is it like the 24/2.8 in regard to image
 quality?

I know nothing about the 24/2.8, unfortunately, so I can't say for
sure.  The 24/3.5 is a hellishly sharp lens, though.  I like it a lot, but
I can't justify keeping both it and the 24-35.  Anyone looking for a
K24/3.5?  Or an A24-50/4, for that matter?

chris
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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread David A. Mann

Dan Scott wrote:

 If limited to two lenses, I think I'd pass on the 85/1.4.  The FA 100/2.8
 macro covers that end of the portrait range (if somewhat mercilessly) AND
 allows the up-close and personal pov I want for plants and bugs. More
 useful.

 I'm a big macro fan so the FA 100/2.8 macro would instantly be on my list.

 However, the FA 35/2 would definitely be part of my kit. It's my fav
 family, friends, and scenic lens. Great for portraits, too.

 I was trying to decide between the FA24/2 and the 43mm Limited, and totally 
overlooked the K35/3.5...

 So my picks would be the FA100/2.8 Macro and the K35/3.5, and don't bother 
with a TC.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi ... thanks for the update on the zooms - or are they variable focus
lenses?  I can never remember which.

I'd be interested in other comments on comparing the K24/3.5 v K24/2.8

Chris Brogden wrote:

 I used it a fair bit, but not a lot.  I like the 4x6's I've seen from it,
 but I haven't had anything enlarged from it yet.  It fared much better
 than the A24-50/4 in a casual test I did, but I determined later that the
 24-50 focuses past infinity, possibly because of a misaligned element, so
 that could make a difference.  In any case, I've decided to sell the
 24-50.  It's a hard decision whether to go with the 24-35, or with both a
 K24/3.5 (which I have) and a K35/2 (would need to find).
 
  What's with the K24/3.5?  is it like the 24/2.8 in regard to image
  quality?
 
 I know nothing about the 24/2.8, unfortunately, so I can't say for
 sure.  The 24/3.5 is a hellishly sharp lens, though.  I like it a lot, but
 I can't justify keeping both it and the 24-35.  Anyone looking for a
 K24/3.5?  Or an A24-50/4, for that matter?

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Re: which 2 lenses and a teleconverter make the best combo?

2001-12-06 Thread Bruce Dayton

Dan,

I have a fairly full complement of lenses, so I'll take a stab at it.
I would pick the FA *24 f:2.0 and the FA *85 f:1.4.  This basically
covers a large part of what I shoot.  I find teleconverters mostly
useful on longer lenses, so don't know if I would bother here.

I would miss my FA *200 f:2.8 and my FA 100 f:2.8 Macro.  You make it
more difficult limiting it to two.


Bruce Dayton



Thursday, December 06, 2001, 8:18:45 AM, you wrote:

DS We haven't a good equipment argument make the rounds for awhile.

DS My question,

DS if you had to limit yourself to two (2) Pentax _primes_ and one (1) Pentax
DS teleconverter, which ones and why? (i.e. how would that combo support your
DS style of photography better than some other combo?)

DS Anyone game?

DS Dan Scott
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