Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Sigh. Sorry. I REALLY need to proofread my Emails. I wanted to say Did the Toshiba have a stylus-based touch screen? The review I found http://www.mobiletechreview.com/toshiba_e750.htm didn't say. I was curious since the ipod touch is the first capacitance touch surface I've used. It threw me at first as I tried to used a pencil eraser as a stylus. I've gotten used to that tiny keyboard, but I had really sloppy fingers at first. graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 5:14 PM Of course it has a touch screen. Be kind of hard to use without one. It was actually the first of the modern high res screen Pocket PC's, VGA, compact flash sd card slots, built in wifi, IR wireless. Newer Pocket PC's are faster but generally do not have a lot more features. With a CF GPS plugged in it has served as my in car navigation system as well as pocket organizer, but it lost the top line on the screen about a year ago, and now the battery is gone. Unfortunately I can not afford to replace it, or even the battery. But, hell, I can't afford to go anywhere any more anyway... Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com ( http://www.graywolfphoto.com/ ) Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Did the Toshiba have a touch screen? I read an old web review and it didn't seem that way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:43 PM What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working battery*, I mean. *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure is at the forefront of technology aren't they. OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com ( http://www.graywolfphoto.com/ ) Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47869b64103767639445900! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Same answer, yes, it uses a stylus. However Tom-Tom Navigator (gps map software) managed to use it with just a finger. Until you use it that way you do not realize the pluses and minuses of using your finger. It is really convenient, but it leave fingerprint smudges all over the screen. However, I do not see what it matters, they have not been made for a long time, although with their 4 screen, square shape, and thin case they are one of the nicer PDA's to carry and use. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Sigh. Sorry. I REALLY need to proofread my Emails. I wanted to say Did the Toshiba have a stylus-based touch screen? The review I found http://www.mobiletechreview.com/toshiba_e750.htm didn't say. I was curious since the ipod touch is the first capacitance touch surface I've used. It threw me at first as I tried to used a pencil eraser as a stylus. I've gotten used to that tiny keyboard, but I had really sloppy fingers at first. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/ Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung: http://www.samsungtechwin.com/ Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:50:03 +0100, AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/ Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung: http://www.samsungtechwin.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://img.index.hu/imgfrm/4/4/9/2/BIG_0003754492.jpg AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/ Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung: http://www.samsungtechwin.com/ Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:50:03 +0100, AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/ Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung: http://www.samsungtechwin.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, they changed the article. I think someone broke the embargo. AlunFoto wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 Um... Did they change the article? There's no mention of any SLR on that page. Only compacts. There's no mention of a Samsung SLR at any of the sites reporting from CES either. For example: http://www.ces-show.com/digitalcameras/ Nor is there any SLR in the press releases from Samsung: http://www.samsungtechwin.com/ Jostein -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There was an earlier Pentax leak. I'm sure we'll hear a lot more soon. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:44AM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. That was the one thing I felt was a bit disappointing about the iTouch; as a digital photo wallet, it wasn't as good as the high-end HP or Dell Pocket PCs which had a full VGA-resolution screen (640x480). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 10, 2008 9:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was an earlier Pentax leak. So its not weather proof then. Dave Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/01/08, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? I purposely did not want anything with PocketPC written on it. I used Palm OS for years waiting for Apple to get its act together. It was worth the wait. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. It's nice isn't it (I have the iPhone). I convert movies into MP4's and bung them on - I have most of The Young Ones on there and Transformers (great movie) as well as my showreel and bits and pieces I've shot. But the best part is having zillions of photos on there, easily accessible. But I wouldn't want it on the back of a camera - I'm going retro now - trying to get away from chimping!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working battery*, I mean. *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure is at the forefront of technology aren't they. OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? There was an earlier Pentax leak. So its not weather proof then. We know stuff leaks out, whether anything actually leaks in is anyone's guess. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The big deal on the touch/iPhone isn't the PocketPC/Palm/Blackberry-type functionality(Which is very common), it's the iPod side of things. The iPhone is hands-down the best MP3-playing phone available, and also offers a lot more storage than most SmartPhones. If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one, as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod. -Adam On 1/10/08, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working battery*, I mean. *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure is at the forefront of technology aren't they. OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dell no longer makes the Axoim and HP's current PDAs have a smaller screen, 240x320. The bigger ones were nice but didn't sell well enough. A bigger screen on the iPod would make it too big. John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:11 PM On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 09:51:44AM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. That was the one thing I felt was a bit disappointing about the iTouch; as a digital photo wallet, it wasn't as good as the high-end HP or Dell Pocket PCs which had a full VGA-resolution screen (640x480). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47865302322511835194395! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Did the Toshiba have a touch screen? I read an old web review and it didn't seem that way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:43 PM What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working battery*, I mean. *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure is at the forefront of technology aren't they. OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:478659b3322516458934726! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one, as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod. I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I grimace every time I see my son chuck his 80GB video iPod about. Those little read/ write arms 8GB on my iPhone is bad. I want 32 at least (flash). -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:11 AM, John Francis wrote: BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. That was the one thing I felt was a bit disappointing about the iTouch; as a digital photo wallet, it wasn't as good as the high-end HP or Dell Pocket PCs which had a full VGA-resolution screen (640x480). They might not be quite as big, but comparing them the iPod Touch and iPhone screens seem to present photos more nicely than the others I've seen. I think Apple's JPEG rendering and scaling engine is much more sophisticated. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Outside of Apple and Archos, there's very little in the way of HDD-based small media players. But it's currently the only way to get capacities over about 16GB economically. Flash just isn't cheap enough or small enough for the higher capacities. Note the iPod classic is currently a 80GB or 160GB, the latter approaching the max capacity of the larger 2.5 Laptop drives, but using a 1.8 drive instead. -Adam On 1/10/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one, as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod. I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I grimace every time I see my son chuck his 80GB video iPod about. Those little read/ write arms 8GB on my iPhone is bad. I want 32 at least (flash). -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm OK with 8 GB for now. I just pick what I want and sync with my laptop.I know folks that do carry their whole collection around, but I go through phases and can get by with a mere several hundred songs at a time. I like the iPod touch. The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty hard on cell phones. I wish they had included a few more of the iPhone apps that would have worked with WiFi, but I guess they didn't want to undercut the iPhone too much. I'll admit that this is one of those things I bought simply because I found it to be an elegant technological toy, and I get a certain amount of pleasure just from using it. If my laptop is not on, it's actually much quicker to check things like the weather channel on the ipod. Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 3:16 PM On 10/01/08, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: If the iPhone had an HDD, I'd be interested in one, as it is, it's a downgrade as an MP3 player from my 60GB iPod. I gather manufacturers are ceasing production of small HDDs - I expect because flash memory is now reaching decent capacities? I grimace every time I see my son chuck his 80GB video iPod about. Those little read/ write arms 8GB on my iPhone is bad. I want 32 at least (flash). -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47867d5f103761523124978! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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*Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? My original series iPod 5G model, purchased 1 months after the iPod release in November 2001 through an Apple Employee purchase deal, is still permitting up to 9 hours of play per charge. That's down about 1 hour from when it was new. I continue to use it every day... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Macworld SF is next week. I'm expecting iPhone and iPod Touch new product announcements, well hoping really as something with more capacity, smaller, lighter, and with more functionality than my now- ancient iPod would be nice. The iPhone would be neat but I'm leery of the service contract cost. Godfrey On Jan 10, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm OK with 8 GB for now. I just pick what I want and sync with my laptop.I know folks that do carry their whole collection around, but I go through phases and can get by with a mere several hundred songs at a time. I like the iPod touch. The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty hard on cell phones. I wish they had included a few more of the iPhone apps that would have worked with WiFi, but I guess they didn't want to undercut the iPhone too much. I'll admit that this is one of those things I bought simply because I found it to be an elegant technological toy, and I get a certain amount of pleasure just from using it. If my laptop is not on, it's actually much quicker to check things like the weather channel on the ipod. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Of course it has a touch screen. Be kind of hard to use without one. It was actually the first of the modern high res screen Pocket PC's, VGA, compact flash sd card slots, built in wifi, IR wireless. Newer Pocket PC's are faster but generally do not have a lot more features. With a CF GPS plugged in it has served as my in car navigation system as well as pocket organizer, but it lost the top line on the screen about a year ago, and now the battery is gone. Unfortunately I can not afford to replace it, or even the battery. But, hell, I can't afford to go anywhere any more anyway... Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Did the Toshiba have a touch screen? I read an old web review and it didn't seem that way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 12:43 PM What is the difference between that and my old Toshiba e755? Besides a smaller screen, the apple name, and a working battery*, I mean. *Of course it does take awhile for a Li-Ion battery to die of old age, about, what, 5-6 years in this case? Apple sure is at the forefront of technology aren't they. OTOH, Apple does know how to promote their stuff. How many of you knew that you could be a Pocket PC with a built in cel-phone for several years before Apple came out with one? Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Steve Desjardins wrote: Assuming it's an accidental leak. ;-) BTW, I have an iPod touch (the iPhone sans the phone part) and it has a 3.5-inch (diagonal) screen with 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 pixels per inch. It's really stunning, especially as a digital photo wallet. This is what I want on a camera. David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/10/2008 7:59 AM Frankly, the fact that we're seeing leaked info from Samsung, not from Pentax, says to me that the Pentax PR people haven't learnt a damn thing from the success of the K10D pre announcement. Cheers, Dave On Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an easy one. Pentax saw it. Samsung's PR people apparently violated the embargo date. Paul On Jan 10, 2008, at 6:46 AM, jim wrote: hmmm. it appears that they have changed the artical. wounder why? James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I like the iPod touch. The iPhone was all wrong for me, especially given ATT coverage in this rural area where I live, and I'm pretty hard on cell phones. Understood. My phone is used intermittently every single day. I say intermittently, but on the days I am working, it is in a charging cradle on the dash with Google maps guiding me, phone calls in and out. I seem to keep under the 600 minutes a month (just). Then if i get out the car, it does. It then slips into one of these: http://www.senacases.com/Brands/Apple-iPhone-Cases/SENA-MAGNETFLIPPER- CASE-FOR-iPHONE http://tinyurl.com/39khuq which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though. Compared to the Treo, it;s a dream. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/01/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Macworld SF is next week. I'm expecting iPhone and iPod Touch new product announcements, 3G iPhone. 32GB. 1.1.3 Come on Godders, get a first gen off eBay and jailbreak it ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 10/01/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/39khuq which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though. Sorry - I just re-read that and to clarify: the phone is slippery and the case makes it not slippery and offers protection. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Indeed. Arguably, if they maintain a positive pressure differential, it should be weather proof. On 10-Jan-08, at 12:43 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? There was an earlier Pentax leak. So its not weather proof then. We know stuff leaks out, whether anything actually leaks in is anyone's guess. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh I think it was clear enough to begin with Cotty wrote: On 10/01/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/39khuq which would fit the Touch as well I think. They're very slippery and I'm frightened of it slipping out of my hand. Offers good protection though. Sorry - I just re-read that and to clarify: the phone is slippery and the case makes it not slippery and offers protection. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmmm.. Jack --- Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's it. -- Original message -- From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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We don't know that for sure. Pentax sometimes doesn't announce features.. (Though it does seem unlikely). Tim Øsleby wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200, although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well. Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an upgrade to the K10D. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would bet so. It is supposed to be mostly internal changes. (With the rumors of a January announcement I kind of expected something from the LV Consumer Electronics Show, but it's started and... Well nothing.) Patrick Genovese wrote: See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust Is that always, or just during cold and flu season.?:-) Dave - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The Nikon LCD is not really 922k. It is about 300k x 3. 300k pix pr colour channel. In other words, it is better, but not as much better as the specs suggests. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200, although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well. Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an upgrade to the K10D. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Specs does not tell. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust Is that always, or just during cold and flu season.?:-) Dave - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled date for announcement. Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled date for announcement. Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Correction. In small print: It is recomended to give it a shot al least once a year to keep it resistant. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Specs does not tell. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? On Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust Is that always, or just during cold and flu season.?:-) Dave - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09.01.2008 10:16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Wed Jan 9 15:39:03 EST 2008 Thibouille wrote: Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) Did you mean: Get a grip [... on yourself] ? ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
;) And btw... http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/149260-post30.html On Jan 9, 2008 9:50 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wed Jan 9 15:39:03 EST 2008 Thibouille wrote: Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) Did you mean: Get a grip [... on yourself] ? ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
On Jan 9, 2008 3:55 PM, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. Thats rumoured. This could explain the extra contacts on the grip. Could be larger buffer, could be something else, can also be something else to come i n future GFM cooler maybe. Dave Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled date for announcement. Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09.01.2008 10:16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Ahh, I see. Could be wireless image transmission, more buffer, more processing power, high capacity storage, ...virtually anything. By exposing the guts, they can extend camera functionality with lots of external gadgets. On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. Thats rumoured. This could explain the extra contacts on the grip. Could be larger buffer, could be something else, can also be something else to come i n future Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled date for announcement. Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09.01.2008 10:16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Yep. Thats rumoured. This could explain the extra contacts on the grip. Could be larger buffer, could be something else, can also be something else to come i n future Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Do I read that to mean that somehow the grip will tap into the internal bus to extend the fps somehow? I.e. more fast ram or something? On 1/9/08, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10th January is an internal event for press under heavy NDA (but who knows, things might leak) and 24th January isthe currently scheduled date for announcement. Also I would suggest those liking fps/buffer size to buy the grip when/if they buy the K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09.01.2008 10:16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Yes, but the others aren't really 230k pixels, but rather 1/3 of that. All LCD displays on cameras are specified by points or sub-pixels. The 922k display on the D3/D300/A700 has its pixels counted the same way as the 230k displays on other bodies. The 922x displays are 640x480, the 230k displays are 320x240. twice the pixels in each direction. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Nikon LCD is not really 922k. It is about 300k x 3. 300k pix pr colour channel. In other words, it is better, but not as much better as the specs suggests. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200, although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well. Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an upgrade to the K10D. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Really? This puzzles me. I've seen a couple of trustworthy D300 tests that made a lot of fuzz about Nikin higher specks than whats correct on the LCD. I could be misinformed, though. Not that this is important for me. I'm sure D300 is great. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Yes, but the others aren't really 230k pixels, but rather 1/3 of that. All LCD displays on cameras are specified by points or sub-pixels. The 922k display on the D3/D300/A700 has its pixels counted the same way as the 230k displays on other bodies. The 922x displays are 640x480, the 230k displays are 320x240. twice the pixels in each direction. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Nikon LCD is not really 922k. It is about 300k x 3. 300k pix pr colour channel. In other words, it is better, but not as much better as the specs suggests. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200, although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well. Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an upgrade to the K10D. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09.01.2008 10:16 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
A lot of supposedly reliable places made a big deal about it, despite everything else having been spec'd out the same way all along. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? This puzzles me. I've seen a couple of trustworthy D300 tests that made a lot of fuzz about Nikin higher specks than whats correct on the LCD. I could be misinformed, though. Not that this is important for me. I'm sure D300 is great. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Yes, but the others aren't really 230k pixels, but rather 1/3 of that. All LCD displays on cameras are specified by points or sub-pixels. The 922k display on the D3/D300/A700 has its pixels counted the same way as the 230k displays on other bodies. The 922x displays are 640x480, the 230k displays are 320x240. twice the pixels in each direction. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Nikon LCD is not really 922k. It is about 300k x 3. 300k pix pr colour channel. In other words, it is better, but not as much better as the specs suggests. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? Hmm, if that's the same 2.7 LCD as the Sony A200, I'm disappointed. The A200's 2.7 LCD is only 230k pixels and those low-res displays make live view far less useful than the high-res displays on the D3 or D300 (Which are sharp enough to determine critical focus on image review or live view, the difference between the 922k pixel and 230k pixel LCD's is VERY noticable). Nice to see the return of ISO3200, although I suspect we're still going to be a stop under what the competition is delivering (other than Canon). The D300 and A700 offer ISO 6400, and I suspect the rumoured A500 and D90 will as well. Unless there's more to it than this I'm seeing a competent but underwhelming update to the K10D. Not really interesting to me as an upgrade to the K10D. -Adam On 1/9/08, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - 14,6 Megapiksler (CMOS sensor) - Optisk billedstabilisering (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Huset er motstandsdyktig mot regn, sand og støv - Dobbel støvfjerning på billedbrikken - Stor 2,7 LCD skjerm - Søkerbilde på LCD (Live View) - Ett- trykks RAW opptak - Følsomhet inntil 3200 ISO Veil pris ca. kr 9.995,- Translated - 14,6 Mp (CMOS sensor) - IS (Image sensor shift mechanism) - Resistant against rain, sand and dust - doble dust removment on sensor - Large 2,7 LCD skjerm - Live View - One- push RAW button - 3200 ISO USD 999 (My rough calculation) -- No ap stimulator ;-) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Tim Typo - Original Message - From: Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ? See here: http://www.aronsen.no/default.asp?ArtID=428 -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08.01.2008 13:38 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
No ap stimulator ;-) Heh. Let the rants bgin (again :) Nothing about AF, fps, image processor etc. Nothing about the rumoured EL display in-viewfinder either. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Samsung GX-20 first glimpse.. Is this the new K20D ?
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 922x displays are 640x480, the 230k displays are 320x240. twice the pixels in each direction. 640x480 is about the same as 512x512 = 256x1024, 256 k pixels 320x240 ... 64 k -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
