Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Scott Loveless]

I just remembered a "one handed" story from a large format list I
subscribe to.  I'm paraphrasing the hell out of this because I can't
find the original email.  One of the list members had an opportunity
to see an old steam locomotive as it passed through a nearby town.  As
this particular locomotive gets excercised rarely, he packed up his LF
camera and his auto-everything SLR (unsure of the brand, you can
pretend it's a Pentax if you want).  After setting up the view camera
for the exposure he wanted, he waited for the train.  As it came into
view, he started shooting with the SLR in his right hand, all the
while holding the shutter release cable for the LF in his left.  When
the train reached the predetermined spot, he made his single LF
exposure.  Basically, he used the SLR to get quite a few "small
format" photos and as a view finder.  The LF photo was very nice. 
Never saw anything from the SLR.
-- 
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:49:38 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Never. Well, I lie - I tried it once just to see what it felt like, with
> the Leica CL. Didn't work for me. My left hand acts as a shock absorber
> on small cameras like the CL.


The CL doesn't work one handed for me, as it doesn't have a grip.  My
LX or MX (as long as I have the Winder MX on) are my one-handed cams.

Without a grip, I just don't have, well, a good enough grip on the
camera.  And then, if I move the camera whilst shooting, I may end up
with a blurry photo.

And, we can't have that then, can we?



cheers,
frank

PS:  a nice blurry PAW coming up soon.  Getting the print tomorrow; 
haven't decided if it will be posted tomorrow or next week.  I bet
y'all can't wait...

ft


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Nick Clark]

Or over the heads of a crowd!

Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Herb Chong"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 08/03/05 03:53:33
To: "pentax-discuss@pdml.net"
    Subject: Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a 
First ...)

only on a tripod.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:48 PM
    Subject: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First 
...)


> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with 
> marginal
> results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Cotty]

On 8/3/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A friend of mine just built himself a photocell device that connects 
>to his Nikon D100. All he need in addition is a pocket reflex and a 
>neat setup with the proper bait.
>
>Could be good for portraits too, I s'pose. Think I know who I'd catch 
>if I put out a glass of dewey chablis... :-)

LOL. Endless possibilities.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[John Francis]

David Mann mused:
> 
> On Mar 8, 2005, at 5:48 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
> 
> > So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with 
> > marginal
> > results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other 
> > option).
> 
> Only when there's no other option.
> 
> About the only specific time I can remember doing this was when using a 
> K2 with the 15mm f/3.5.  I had to shield the lens from the sun with one 
> hand to prevent flare.  The other hand had to somehow hold that 
> horribly front-heavy rig straight while I took the photo.

I tried this with the *ist-D with the DA 16-45 on our San Jose PDML trip,
holding my hat where it was, I hoped, putting the camera in shadow.  The
hanmdgrip of the D, and the light weight of the lens, probably helped.
This is the resulting image:

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Jostein]

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Actually I got the wireless kit for 2 reasons. One, it was a decent 
price
on eBay. Two, I want to do battle with my friend the barn owl again 
this
year. I have a cunning plan involving a hidden camera in the middle 
of a
field looking straight up, and a dead mouse with a couple of hundred 
feet
of kite string tied to its tail. Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
A friend of mine just built himself a photocell device that connects 
to his Nikon D100. All he need in addition is a pocket reflex and a 
neat setup with the proper bait.

Could be good for portraits too, I s'pose. Think I know who I'd catch 
if I put out a glass of dewey chablis... :-)

Jostein 

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Cotty]

On 8/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

>I never heard of it being used that way (well, I've never heard of a lot of 
>things), but it's an intriguing idea. You're using the camera, but people
>don't 
>know it.

Yet it is not covert - the camera is on display, no hidden lenses etc.
The trick is is knowing when to press the shutter release, from an odd
angle. Sort of like flying a remote control plane, you have to think in
terms of left and right, but looking back on yourself :-)

>
>Food for thought...

Actually I got the wireless kit for 2 reasons. One, it was a decent price
on eBay. Two, I want to do battle with my friend the barn owl again this
year. I have a cunning plan involving a hidden camera in the middle of a
field looking straight up, and a dead mouse with a couple of hundred feet
of kite string tied to its tail. Nyuk nyuk nyuk.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Bruce Dayton]

Hello Frank,

I'd say that you were quite successful with this shot.  Nice timing!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, March 7, 2005, 8:02:09 PM, you wrote:

ft> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:58:01 -0500, frank theriault
ft> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:48:16 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

ft> As an example, here's a PESO from a while back.  No time for
ft> viewfinders or two hands on the camera.  My youngest, Claire, sucking
ft> on a "Warhead", a candy that's excruciatingly sour for about 15
ft> seconds, then turns sweet:

ft> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851

ft> Taken during the initial "sour" part .  Sorry about the large size,
ft> it was posted before I was "told"...

ft> cheers,
ft> frank

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/8/2005 3:59:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* yes, you guessed it. My latest enablement is a wireless shutter
release. I plan to shoulder the camera, possibly on an acquaintance, and
fire remotely.


Cheers,
  Cotty
===
I never heard of it being used that way (well, I've never heard of a lot of 
things), but it's an intriguing idea. You're using the camera, but people don't 
know it.

Food for thought...

Marnie aka Doe 

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Cotty]

>
>>So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with
marginal 
>>results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).
>
>Never. Well, I lie - I tried it once just to see what it felt like, with
>the Leica CL. Didn't work for me. My left hand acts as a shock absorber
>on small cameras like the CL.

Actually I lied big time. This whole page is full of stuff taken with one
hand:



Okay, point of clarification:

with eye at the viewfinder - two hands always

with no eye at the v/f - one hand or no hands  *




* yes, you guessed it. My latest enablement is a wireless shutter
release. I plan to shoulder the camera, possibly on an acquaintance, and
fire remotely.


Cheers,
  Cotty


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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Cotty]

On 8/3/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal 
>results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).

Never. Well, I lie - I tried it once just to see what it felt like, with
the Leica CL. Didn't work for me. My left hand acts as a shock absorber
on small cameras like the CL.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Mark Roberts]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>¨This is a two hands photo:
>http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1447396
>
>and this is one hand (and no finder) photo:
>http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1472179

That second shot is really great, Dag! Sort of "Theriaultean", but in
color ;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Cotty]

On 7/3/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I shoot one handed occasionally, depending upon what I'm trying to 
>achieve. Certainly not critical framing or focus, but street shooting 
>is often done from the hip...
>
>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW3/55.htm

Goddo's on a roll here. Works nice for me.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Paul Stenquist]

What Shel said. I only shoot one handed when walking the streets of an 
urban area. The cup of coffee I carry in the other hand is part of the 
fun, and it provides a bit of cover for the photographer. The first 
thing a potential subject sees is someone drinking coffee. Then the 
coffee comes down, the camera goes up, and I pull the trigger. For 
serious shooting, I use a firm two-handed grip, and, quite frequently, 
a tripod.
Paul
On Mar 8, 2005, at 12:38 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi Rob ...
It's a matter of what you get used to, and, of course, the style of
photography that one does.  I learned to make photographs in San 
Francisco,
catching snippets of life on Market Street, the Mission District, and 
other
fast-paced and sometimes crowded urban areas.  Using a pre-set 
spottie, a
wrist strap, and hoping for some quick reflexes, one handed shooting 
became
a simple and reasonably successful way of making photographs.  It was 
hard
to do with a tele or long focus lens, though 

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/cell-guy.html
Shel

[Original Message]
From: Rob Studdert

So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with
marginal
results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other 
option).

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Paul Stenquist]

Very nice. I like the composition. Perhaps a little oversaturated, but 
it goes with the concept. One good hand is as good as three -- or at 
least two.
Paul
On Mar 7, 2005, at 11:02 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:58:01 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:48:16 +1000, Rob Studdert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with 
marginal
results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other 
option).
I'm not sure about the "successful" part, but I do.  Mostly at
parties, with a wide angle lens, while not looking through the
viewfinder.  Just point the camera in the general direction and snap.
It tends to catch folks unaware.  You can also get some interesting
angles and viewpoints.
As an example, here's a PESO from a while back.  No time for
viewfinders or two hands on the camera.  My youngest, Claire, sucking
on a "Warhead", a candy that's excruciatingly sour for about 15
seconds, then turns sweet:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851
Taken during the initial "sour" part .  Sorry about the large size,
it was posted before I was "told"...
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[John Whittingham]

> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with 
> marginal results at best when I do (which is only when there is no 
> other option).

I'm not sure about successfully but I occasionally shoot one handed when 
faced with an obsticle I can't shoot through or go round. I once had to shoot 
an entire production process of gas cookers from over the top of machine 
guards using a Ricoh RDC-5000 :)

John

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[David Savage]

Those are both great shots DagT. 

I generally use both hands. I only use one hand for candid grab shots.

Dave S



On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 9:22:20 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > fra: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal
> > results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).
> 
> I depends.  If it is important for the picture to be sharp I use both hands.  
> If the action and movement is important I sometimes use one hand.
> 
> ¨This is a two hands photo:
> http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1447396
> 
> and this is one hand (and no finder) photo:
> http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1472179
> 
> DagT
> 
>

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[dagt]

> fra: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal 
> results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).


I depends.  If it is important for the picture to be sharp I use both hands.  
If the action and movement is important I sometimes use one hand.

¨This is a two hands photo:
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1447396

and this is one hand (and no finder) photo:
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1472179

DagT

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[David Mann]

On Mar 8, 2005, at 5:48 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with 
marginal
results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other 
option).
Only when there's no other option.
About the only specific time I can remember doing this was when using a 
K2 with the 15mm f/3.5.  I had to shield the lens from the sun with one 
hand to prevent flare.  The other hand had to somehow hold that 
horribly front-heavy rig straight while I took the photo.

Oh yeah, one other time when I wanted to get a photo of a Reliant 
parked in someone's driveway when I was in the UK.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

RE: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Rob ...

It's a matter of what you get used to, and, of course, the style of
photography that one does.  I learned to make photographs in San Francisco,
catching snippets of life on Market Street, the Mission District, and other
fast-paced and sometimes crowded urban areas.  Using a pre-set spottie, a
wrist strap, and hoping for some quick reflexes, one handed shooting became
a simple and reasonably successful way of making photographs.  It was hard
to do with a tele or long focus lens, though 

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/cell-guy.html


Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Rob Studdert 

> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with
marginal 
> results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Mar 7, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Jim Apilado wrote:
While in Peru I used a Sony USC-60 one handed.  The Sony is about the 
size
of a cell phone.  I got some good results with this 2 megapixel camera.
I have one of those too. Excellent little camera!
I shoot one handed occasionally, depending upon what I'm trying to 
achieve. Certainly not critical framing or focus, but street shooting 
is often done from the hip...

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW3/55.htm
Godfrey

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Jim Apilado]

While in Peru I used a Sony USC-60 one handed.  The Sony is about the size
of a cell phone.  I got some good results with this 2 megapixel camera.

Jim A.

> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Digital Image Studio
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:48:16 +1000
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First
> ...)
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:48:18 -0500
> 
> On 7 Mar 2005 at 6:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently
>> shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do
>> keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though
>> I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite
>> easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD.
> 
> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal
> results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).
> 
> 
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> 

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Rob Studdert]

On 7 Mar 2005 at 23:02, frank theriault wrote:
 
> As an example, here's a PESO from a while back.  No time for
> viewfinders or two hands on the camera.  My youngest, Claire, sucking
> on a "Warhead", a candy that's excruciatingly sour for about 15
> seconds, then turns sweet:
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851

I remember this shot, it's a beauty and if it mad been mine it would likely 
have fallen into my "no other (immediate) options" category.
 
> Taken during the initial "sour" part .  Sorry about the large size,
> it was posted before I was "told"...

Fits nicely on my outmoded CRT desktop (there you've been told again :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[ernreed2]

Quoting Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with
> marginal 
> results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).

With the late Fujifilm Finepix 6900Z, I found shooting one-handed extremely 
easy and I was usually successful with it.
I think I do it with the Optio 550 also. Don't recall trying it with the 
*istD.

ERNR

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[frank theriault]

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:58:01 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:48:16 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal
> > results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).
> 
> I'm not sure about the "successful" part, but I do.  Mostly at
> parties, with a wide angle lens, while not looking through the
> viewfinder.  Just point the camera in the general direction and snap.
> 
> It tends to catch folks unaware.  You can also get some interesting
> angles and viewpoints.

As an example, here's a PESO from a while back.  No time for
viewfinders or two hands on the camera.  My youngest, Claire, sucking
on a "Warhead", a candy that's excruciatingly sour for about 15
seconds, then turns sweet:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2349851

Taken during the initial "sour" part .  Sorry about the large size,
it was posted before I was "told"...

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:48:16 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal
> results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).

I'm not sure about the "successful" part, but I do.  Mostly at
parties, with a wide angle lens, while not looking through the
viewfinder.  Just point the camera in the general direction and snap.

It tends to catch folks unaware.  You can also get some interesting
angles and viewpoints.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Herb Chong]

only on a tripod.
Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:48 PM
Subject: So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First 
...)


So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with 
marginal
results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).

So who else shoots one handed? (was: The istD: Report From a First ...)

[Rob Studdert]

On 7 Mar 2005 at 6:49, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> This brought a smile to my face. During my walkarounds, I frequently 
> shoot with one hand while carrying a cup of coffee in the other. (I do 
> keep the strap around my neck.) I always feel a bit guilty, as though 
> I'm not really putting much effort into my photography, but it is quite 
> easy to shoot one-handed with the *istD.

So who else shoots successfully one handed? I certainly end up with marginal 
results at best when I do (which is only when there is no other option).


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998