Re: PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
Thanks Chris and Igor for the comments. The Level display in the viewfinder is wonderful and I usually take advantage of it. Sometimes I don’’t. There is nothing in the Exif that says (Dummy did remember to check the Level on this on.” So when I see an image like this, I fiddle with it. It may have been better to leave it alone! As shot was probably more level. I’ll go back and redo if/when I have the time. Meanwhile, I am more concerned in this image with the fact that, when I did my 2-3° rotation in Lightroom, the rotation was not smooth and I am seeing a tear in the image, a diagonal straight line in the lower left of the image. Not sure how well it shows in the version I posted. I’ve never noticed that sort of Fail in Lightroom before. stan On Mar 31, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Chris: > > Sloped horizon is in the rule 5 on this (almost 6-year old) list: > http://www.komkon.org/~igor/coolphotog.html > :-) > > Stan: that's a nice, very peaceful image. > > Cheers, > > Igor > > > > Mon Mar 31 02:18:29 EDT 2014 > Chris Mitchell wrote: > >> Nice feel. One of David Bailey's shots at his exhibition had a sloping >> horizon so I forgive you yours... >> >> Chris >> >> On 30 March 2014 14:59, Stanley Halpin >> wrote: >> To counter-balance Boris' night-time traffic shot, here is another view of >> life in Tel Aviv. >>> >>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 >>> >>> stan > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
Chris: Sloped horizon is in the rule 5 on this (almost 6-year old) list: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/coolphotog.html :-) Stan: that's a nice, very peaceful image. Cheers, Igor Mon Mar 31 02:18:29 EDT 2014 Chris Mitchell wrote: > Nice feel. One of David Bailey's shots at his exhibition had a sloping > horizon so I forgive you yours... > > Chris > > On 30 March 2014 14:59, Stanley Halpin wrote: > To counter-balance Boris' night-time traffic shot, here is another view of > life in Tel Aviv. > > > > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 > > > > stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
That was the one he took with a Pentax. > On 31 Mar 2014, at 07:19, "Chris Mitchell" wrote: > > Nice feel. One of David Bailey's shots at his exhibition had a sloping > horizon so I forgive you yours... > > Chris > >> On 30 March 2014 14:59, Stanley Halpin wrote: >> To counter-balance Boris' night-time traffic shot, here is another view of >> life in Tel Aviv. >> >> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 >> >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
Nice feel. One of David Bailey's shots at his exhibition had a sloping horizon so I forgive you yours... Chris On 30 March 2014 14:59, Stanley Halpin wrote: > To counter-balance Boris' night-time traffic shot, here is another view of > life in Tel Aviv. > > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 > > stan > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
Nice beach, and nice image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > ha! Yeah - that is much more appealing :-) > ann > > > On 3/30/2014 09:59, Stanley Halpin wrote: >> >> To counter-balance Boris’ night-time traffic shot, here is another view of >> life in Tel Aviv. >> >> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 >> >> stan >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
ha! Yeah - that is much more appealing :-) ann On 3/30/2014 09:59, Stanley Halpin wrote: To counter-balance Boris’ night-time traffic shot, here is another view of life in Tel Aviv. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: The other side of Tel Aviv
To counter-balance Boris’ night-time traffic shot, here is another view of life in Tel Aviv. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/ef169e98 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Boris and Galia - Tel Aviv Port
Lovely, both of them. Stay safe. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > We're having unusually warm weather here. Yesterday it was +32C... So our > friends and us went to the Tel Aviv port for a cup of coffee and a leisurely > walk and talk... > > http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-55-tel-aviv-port.html > > Cheers! > > Boris > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Boris and Galia - Tel Aviv Port
Hi! We're having unusually warm weather here. Yesterday it was +32C... So our friends and us went to the Tel Aviv port for a cup of coffee and a leisurely walk and talk... http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-55-tel-aviv-port.html Cheers! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Very OT: Rocket sirens in Tel Aviv
I've been on my way from Tel Aviv back home about an hour ago. An rocket fire alarm went off in the Big City of ours. The fall of the rocket is confirmed by mass media and denied by IDF officials. Prior to that there were an alarm and confirmed fall in Rishon LeZion which is a town north of us with some 250K inhabitants (ours is Rehovot with 120K inhabitants). It is therefore that my family and I are now all the way inside the line of fire from Gaza. I am asking please not to discuss this matter on the list but rather to keep us in your thoughts. Tonight is very likely to be very long one. For all other matters I would appreciate an off-list contact. Naturally my on-list activity will depend on my off-list status. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Tel Aviv (some more)
On 3/27/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Tel Aviv is indeed very interesting city... Here is one of my first (one > thousand) shots with *istD: > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12772 > > As usual, please click on the image in order to have it open in full size. > > Thanks. > Beautiful light, beautiful comp, like the flock of birds. Terrific shot! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Tel Aviv (some more)
Hi Boris, Excellent shot, golden hour light, great composition, birds flying into the frame; I like it very much. Usually I agree with Kenneth, but cropping in VF would leave the birds out of the picture, so wouldn't touch a thing. On 3/27/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Tel Aviv is indeed very interesting city... Here is one of my first (one > thousand) shots with *istD: > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12772 > > As usual, please click on the image in order to have it open in full size. > > Thanks. > > Boris > >
RE: PESO - Tel Aviv (some more)
A well captured/taken/shot view. I like. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27. mars 2006 21:05 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Tel Aviv (some more) > > Hi! > > Tel Aviv is indeed very interesting city... Here is one of my first (one > thousand) shots with *istD: > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12772 > > As usual, please click on the image in order to have it open in full size. > > Thanks. > > Boris >
Re: PESO - Tel Aviv (some more)
The light makes it!. If this scene was presented to me I'd single out the tall building on the Left in a vertical format. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO - Tel Aviv (some more) Hi! Tel Aviv is indeed very interesting city... Here is one of my first (one thousand) shots with *istD: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12772 As usual, please click on the image in order to have it open in full size. Thanks. Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
I agree with Frank. A few previous posts referenced "trite technique". I think that can freeze us (group pressure being applied) from experimenting further. For example, I used to think that pictures taken deliberately "unsquare" (ie camera tilted noticably off plumb square) were trite. I still think most are. But I've seen people use the technique effectively, even though the hit rate might go down. If you like the effect, Boris, keep experimenting. Once in a while you'll snag a really nifty one. Please yourself. I've tried this kind of photo before and I think this beats anything I've done... but then I ain't no danged good. -Lo frank theriault wrote: On 3/15/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. I like it. I must say, I usually exect "smooth" lines from these sorts of time exposures. At first the "jiggly" lines were a bit off-putting, but the more I look the more I like. Cool shot!! cheers, frank
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi Boris, Honest and brutal, but also very (!) subjective this time. I love this kind of shots. It pulls you in. However, there are a few things that distracts from the effect, imo. The highlights become little doodles and introduce a bit of dizziness. I find that a bit... um... dunno if it's the right word, but I'll try disconcerting. Hope you understand what I think about. I've also seen this done with a lot more of the doodling effect, and that too can be cool. As it stands, I perceive it as not enough and too much. Also, I think the pic would be better without the halo of the photographer in the glass. I'm not going to suggest using a tripod. Rather, I'd suggest you lean the front of the lens towards the window pane. This will both give you better support, less reflections, and minimise the blurring effect of the window glass on the motif beyond as much as possible. Cheers, Jostein Quoting Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! > > I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. > Here I've tried to be slightly less static... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 > > Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. > > Boris > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Tel Aviv
Impressionistic images are often dynamic and trigger unique reactions in us all. This is no exception, but, alas, I'm weak and couldn't resist my usual base humor. Jack --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > Get yourself a good tripod. > > I have Slik Able 300 DX... I just don't carry it to my work and back > every day... ;-) > > Boris > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Tel Aviv
I'd be happy to discuss life and photo with you Boris. If I' able to make the trip to the big city. If you go, let me know in advance. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16. mars 2006 05:45 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Tel Aviv > > Hi! > > > Seriously. You have turned a static scene into something dynamic. At > first > > glance I saw that as a contradiction. After a moment of reflection I > > realised it opens for a lot of interpretations. May I suggest a new > title, > > "City life"? Kind of cliché, but thats what I see underneath the > surface. > > > > Life is a cliché, isn't it? > > Probably so... > > Tim, if I get to be in Oslo this year like it happened in 2004, we might > want to meet and discuss this a bit... > > Boris >
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Love it. I can imagine this on my wall. Thanks! Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! Yep, the technique is trite, but it certainly warrants experimentation, especially by someone who hasn't done it before. I also agree with Godders about this not being the best way to instill some dynamics into a photo. I don't think "dynamic" necessarily means movement. It can be emotional, or providing a sense of movement or tension. Still, I like this example of a trite technique. Thanks Shel. I agree with you and Godfrey. I just saw I might try this. At least I could sat this comes naturally with zooms and probably much more difficult (without PhotoShop) with fixes ;-). Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! Nicely done abstract. Looks like living room art from the 60's. Har! Thank you! I am indeed flattered! Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! Boris, I like it. Has a certain sophistication about it. Nice to see you trying something different, we all should. Ken, funny you should mention sophistication. Most recently I couldn't "see" anything more sophisticated that outright trivial... Thanks, but I humbly disagree... This is pretty much trivial. Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. I like it. I must say, I usually exect "smooth" lines from these sorts of time exposures. At first the "jiggly" lines were a bit off-putting, but the more I look the more I like. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson Frank, given your signature (left here intentionally :-) ) I might assume that you and probably me too tend to shoot hand-held... To get this exposure I had to turn on mirror pre-fire and use shutter speed of 1 sec. I couldn't probably produce anything even remotely smooth. And then of course if it weren't "jiggly" some would say - it is not sharp enough ;-). I was going absolutely against the "bourgeois concept" ;-). Thanks for your kind words. Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! I like the image. It's pretty and well balanced. However, this technique has been used a lot, and, in my opinion, the results don't vary enough to warrant more and more executions of this type. Why do I feel so "executed"? ;-) I mean like in "hanging or da-chair"... ;-) Thanks... I am not sure I will keep trying this technique, but I've "tasted" it and it was a bit of fun. Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! Get yourself a good tripod. I have Slik Able 300 DX... I just don't carry it to my work and back every day... ;-) Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! Seriously. You have turned a static scene into something dynamic. At first glance I saw that as a contradiction. After a moment of reflection I realised it opens for a lot of interpretations. May I suggest a new title, "City life"? Kind of cliché, but that’s what I see underneath the surface. Life is a cliché, isn't it? Probably so... Tim, if I get to be in Oslo this year like it happened in 2004, we might want to meet and discuss this a bit... Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Hi! No need to be brutal. It works as an interesting graphic image, but I'm not sure if it solves the issue you had in mind. Making photos that have a more dynamic quality doesn't necessarily mean producing a graphic effect with camera movement. Well, of course you're right. But I had to start somewhere... Boris
RE: Tel Aviv
Nicely done abstract. Looks like living room art from the 60's. Tom C. From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Tel Aviv Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:51:38 +0200 Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
Boris, I like it. Has a certain sophistication about it. Nice to see you trying something different, we all should. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Tel Aviv Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
Re: Tel Aviv
On 3/15/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. > Here I've tried to be slightly less static... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 > > Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. I like it. I must say, I usually exect "smooth" lines from these sorts of time exposures. At first the "jiggly" lines were a bit off-putting, but the more I look the more I like. Cool shot!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Tel Aviv
Yep, the technique is trite, but it certainly warrants experimentation, especially by someone who hasn't done it before. I also agree with Godders about this not being the best way to instill some dynamics into a photo. I don't think "dynamic" necessarily means movement. It can be emotional, or providing a sense of movement or tension. Still, I like this example of a trite technique. Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I like the image. It's pretty and well balanced. However, this technique has been used a lot, and, in my opinion, the results don't vary enough to warrant more and more executions of this type. > -- Original message -- > From: Boris Liberman < > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495
Re: Tel Aviv
I like the image. It's pretty and well balanced. However, this technique has been used a lot, and, in my opinion, the results don't vary enough to warrant more and more executions of this type. -- Original message -- From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi! > > I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. > Here I've tried to be slightly less static... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 > > Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. > > Boris >
Re: Tel Aviv
On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. No need to be brutal. It works as an interesting graphic image, but I'm not sure if it solves the issue you had in mind. Making photos that have a more dynamic quality doesn't necessarily mean producing a graphic effect with camera movement. Godfrey
Re: Tel Aviv
Get yourself a good tripod. Jack --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. > Here I've tried to be slightly less static... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 > > Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and > appreciated. > > Boris > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Tel Aviv
Dynamic ;-) Seriously. You have turned a static scene into something dynamic. At first glance I saw that as a contradiction. After a moment of reflection I realised it opens for a lot of interpretations. May I suggest a new title, "City life"? Kind of cliché, but thats what I see underneath the surface. Life is a cliché, isn't it? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15. mars 2006 18:52 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Tel Aviv > > Hi! > > I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. > Here I've tried to be slightly less static... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 > > Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. > > Boris >
RE: Tel Aviv
Boris Liberman wrote: > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Love it. I can imagine this on my wall. Malcolm
RE: Tel Aviv
What street is that. I want to look it up on my map of TA. I like the shot, BTW. It works nicely. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman > I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. > Here I've tried to be slightly less static... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495
Tel Aviv
Hi! I am starting to realize that most of my photography is very static. Here I've tried to be slightly less static... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Your honest and brutal feedback is as usual sought after and appreciated. Boris
Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv
Ditto. Dave On 3/6/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like "Euphoria." Interesting juxtaposition of the sign and building. > Paul > On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in > > the area close to our offices... > > > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291 > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292 > > > > As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after. > > > > Boris > > > >
Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv
I like "Euphoria." Interesting juxtaposition of the sign and building. Paul On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in the area close to our offices... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292 As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after. Boris
Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv
The first is pretty good - light amusement. The second, I think, is much better. The billboard and message are in such stark contrast to the location. Nicely done. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, March 5, 2006, 10:55:11 AM, you wrote: BL> Hi! BL> It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in the BL> area close to our offices... BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291 BL> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292 BL> As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after. BL> Boris
Re: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292 As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after. -- Well, they are brutal and honest photos. These are well done, Boris. I believe they accomplished what you wanted. Joe
RE: Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv
I like the story in the second one. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291 > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292
Two PESOs - walking around Tel Aviv
Hi! It seems I am in a shooting streak again... Went today for a walk in the area close to our offices... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12291 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12292 As usual brutal and honest comments are sought after. Boris
