The PDML List Demographic and JCO
JC, I believe that the PDML list consists of photo enthusiasts with a specific interest in Pentax equipment. I believe that the PDML list consists largely of intelligent, thoughtful participants. I believe that PDML list participants use the list to share information and images with each other. I believe that most PDML list members look for messages that include information, links to galleries, and the odd witty interchange involving Cotty. I believe that most PDML list members do not appreciate ALL CAPS RANTS. I believe that most PDML list members do not appreciate being lectured about what kind of audio, visual, or computer hardware they should own, in particular when the lecture comes in the form of an ALL CAPS RANT. Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive message add any value at all to the PDML? IF so, can you explain why without resorting to an ALL CAPS RANT? --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. If you actually read what is being said in the posts I am replying to you would understand. I dont start these things but people simply refuse to not get personal when they dont have to and they do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. Like calling me elitest schmuck because I use and recommend a much better screen setup even AFTER I told them it cost less than $200 NEW. Thats really not making any sense whatsoever. Its a personal attack to attempt to win a losing argument, plain and simple... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:18 PM To: pdml Subject: The PDML List Demographic and JCO JC, I believe that the PDML list consists of photo enthusiasts with a specific interest in Pentax equipment. I believe that the PDML list consists largely of intelligent, thoughtful participants. I believe that PDML list participants use the list to share information and images with each other. I believe that most PDML list members look for messages that include information, links to galleries, and the odd witty interchange involving Cotty. I believe that most PDML list members do not appreciate ALL CAPS RANTS. I believe that most PDML list members do not appreciate being lectured about what kind of audio, visual, or computer hardware they should own, in particular when the lecture comes in the form of an ALL CAPS RANT. Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive message add any value at all to the PDML? IF so, can you explain why without resorting to an ALL CAPS RANT? --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO
Let me ask again: Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML? --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: >ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. >If you actually read what is being said >in the posts I am replying to >you would understand. I dont >start these things but people >simply refuse to not get personal >when they dont have to and they >do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. >Like calling me elitest schmuck because >I use and recommend a much better >screen setup even AFTER I told >them it cost less than $200 NEW. >Thats really not making any sense >whatsoever. Its a personal attack >to attempt to win a losing argument, >plain and simple... > >jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO
On 3/4/07, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I believe that most PDML list members look for messages that include >information, links to galleries, and the odd witty interchange involving >Cotty. Ack I've just wet meself. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Witty? Hum... Cotty wrote: > On 3/4/07, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> I believe that most PDML list members look for messages that include >> information, links to galleries, and the odd witty interchange involving >> Cotty. >> > > Ack I've just wet meself. > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: > Ack I've just wet meself. *Canned laughter* S -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO
Mark, I've had a peaceful and happy pdml experience since blocking JCO messages a month or two ago. Suggest you do the same. He seeks an audience. Regards, Bob S. On 4/3/07, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me ask again: > > Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any > value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. > >If you actually read what is being said > >in the posts I am replying to > >you would understand. I dont > >start these things but people > >simply refuse to not get personal > >when they dont have to and they > >do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. > >Like calling me elitest schmuck because > >I use and recommend a much better > >screen setup even AFTER I told > >them it cost less than $200 NEW. > >Thats really not making any sense > >whatsoever. Its a personal attack > >to attempt to win a losing argument, > >plain and simple... > > > >jco > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO
Mark Erickson wrote: Talk about pissing into the wind ... I like JCO ... I agree with him pretty frequently ... but I'm on the verge of putting him in the killfile because his presentation is annoying. John, please. Take a chill pill and come back when you're less emotionally invested. You have good points to make. But they get lost in the argumentation. Take an anti-lesson from our politicians ... present your position and let the world accept or ignore you at its whim. That's life. Even when you're right, factually, you can be wrong, emotionally. And vice versa. Bottom line, we're all individuals. You have lots to contribute to the PDML, but it's getting lost in the vitriol. Please do yourself and all of us a favor and take a "debate team pill" ... one need not get emotionally invested in a debate ... even when the topic cuts close to home. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I think your more concerned with CAPITOL LETTERS than your are with the meaning of the posts or the thoughts expressed. I dont think thats the most important thing to be concerned with.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:03 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Let me ask again: Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML? --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: >ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. >If you actually read what is being said >in the posts I am replying to >you would understand. I dont >start these things but people >simply refuse to not get personal >when they dont have to and they >do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. >Like calling me elitest schmuck because >I use and recommend a much better >screen setup even AFTER I told >them it cost less than $200 NEW. >Thats really not making any sense >whatsoever. Its a personal attack >to attempt to win a losing argument, >plain and simple... > >jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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screw you, I dont seek anything but the truth and the truth is anyone using old display resolutions shouldnt be complaining to me about how they find 1200 pixel images "frustrating", they should be fixing the "problem" on their end if their system is not up to the task of displaying these... My system which is neither state of art, nor expensive displays them fine...Reducing them in size is not the answer in my opinion because the COST in reduced image quality is too high.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Mark, I've had a peaceful and happy pdml experience since blocking JCO messages a month or two ago. Suggest you do the same. He seeks an audience. Regards, Bob S. On 4/3/07, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me ask again: > > Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add > any value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. > >If you actually read what is being said > >in the posts I am replying to > >you would understand. I dont > >start these things but people > >simply refuse to not get personal > >when they dont have to and they > >do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. > >Like calling me elitest schmuck because > >I use and recommend a much better > >screen setup even AFTER I told > >them it cost less than $200 NEW. > >Thats really not making any sense > >whatsoever. Its a personal attack > >to attempt to win a losing argument, > >plain and simple... > > > >jco > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hey, wow. I missed all this... Does any of you remember "The Who" and the ferocius bantering of him by that Romanian witty fellow whose name I can't seem to remember? Take it easy, men. There are much worse things than this. Ciao, Flavio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:38 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO screw you, I dont seek anything but the truth ... CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message and its attachments are addressed solely to the persons above and may contain confidential information. If you have received the message in error, be informed that any use of the content hereof is prohibited. Please return it immediately to the sender and delete the message. Should you have any questions, please contact us by replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you www.telecomitalia.it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob i cannot agree with you more. Since finmding an email client, that has blocking that works, i can now actually sleep 3-4 hour per night. I don't miss them at all. Dave On 4/3/07, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > I've had a peaceful and happy pdml experience since blocking JCO > messages a month or two ago. Suggest you do the same. He seeks an > audience. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 4/3/07, Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let me ask again: > > > > Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any > > value at all to the PDML? > > > > --Mark > > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > >ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. > > >If you actually read what is being said > > >in the posts I am replying to > > >you would understand. I dont > > >start these things but people > > >simply refuse to not get personal > > >when they dont have to and they > > >do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. > > >Like calling me elitest schmuck because > > >I use and recommend a much better > > >screen setup even AFTER I told > > >them it cost less than $200 NEW. > > >Thats really not making any sense > > >whatsoever. Its a personal attack > > >to attempt to win a losing argument, > > >plain and simple... > > > > > >jco > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I barely remember the Who, that's why I haven't kill filed JCO yet, (and I didn't have too much trouble with Brad Dobo so I guess in most cases I've thick skinned). Minelli Flavio wrote: > Hey, wow. I missed all this... > > Does any of you remember "The Who" and the ferocius bantering of him by > that Romanian witty fellow whose name I can't seem to remember? > > Take it easy, men. There are much worse things than this. > > Ciao, Flavio > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > J. C. O'Connell > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:38 AM > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > screw you, I dont seek anything but the truth > ... > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This message and its attachments are addressed solely to the persons above > and may contain confidential information. If you have received the message in > error, be informed that any use of the content hereof is prohibited. Please > return it immediately to the sender and delete the message. Should you have > any questions, please contact us by replying to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thank you > > www.telecomitalia.it > > > > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 4/4/2007 8:02:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I barely remember the Who, that's why I haven't kill filed JCO yet, (and I didn't have too much trouble with Brad Dobo so I guess in most cases I've thick skinned). === Ditto. However, while I understand Doug's desire not to moderate, maybe he should reconsider at least mild moderation. I wonder how many people have left over the last year because of one person. Marnie aka Doe ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > However, while I understand Doug's desire not to moderate, maybe he should > reconsider at least mild moderation. I wonder how many people have left over > the last year because of one person. > Sorry. I'll try to be nice. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > However, while I understand Doug's desire not to moderate, maybe he should > > reconsider at least mild moderation. I wonder how many people have left > > over > > the last year because of one person. > > > Sorry. I'll try to be nice. I'm already nice. :-D Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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JC, You still haven't answered my original question: Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML? --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >I think your more concerned with CAPITOL >LETTERS than your are with the meaning >of the posts or the thoughts expressed. >I dont think thats the most important >thing to be concerned with.. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf >Of >Mark Erickson >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:03 PM >To: pdml >Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > >Let me ask again: > >Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark > >J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. >>If you actually read what is being said >>in the posts I am replying to >>you would understand. I dont >>start these things but people >>simply refuse to not get personal >>when they dont have to and they >>do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. >>Like calling me elitest schmuck because >>I use and recommend a much better >>screen setup even AFTER I told >>them it cost less than $200 NEW. >>Thats really not making any sense >>whatsoever. Its a personal attack >>to attempt to win a losing argument, >>plain and simple... >> >>jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont use them all the time, only when needed. I dont take the stance there is never any need for CAPS and hence should never be used. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:37 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO JC, You still haven't answered my original question: Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML? --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >I think your more concerned with CAPITOL >LETTERS than your are with the meaning >of the posts or the thoughts expressed. >I dont think thats the most important >thing to be concerned with.. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On >Behalf >Of Mark Erickson >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:03 PM >To: pdml >Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > >Let me ask again: > >Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark > >J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. >>If you actually read what is being said >>in the posts I am replying to >>you would understand. I dont >>start these things but people >>simply refuse to not get personal >>when they dont have to and they >>do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. >>Like calling me elitest schmuck because >>I use and recommend a much better >>screen setup even AFTER I told >>them it cost less than $200 NEW. >>Thats really not making any sense >>whatsoever. Its a personal attack >>to attempt to win a losing argument, >>plain and simple... >> >>jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You're a BOOB. -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com J. C. O'Connell wrote: > yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont > use them all the time, only when needed. I dont > take the stance there is never any need for CAPS > and hence should never be used. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mark Erickson > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:37 PM > To: pdml > Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > > JC, > > You still haven't answered my original question: > > Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any > value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> I think your more concerned with CAPITOL >> LETTERS than your are with the meaning >> of the posts or the thoughts expressed. >> I dont think thats the most important >> thing to be concerned with.. >> jco >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On >> Behalf >Of Mark Erickson >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:03 PM >> To: pdml >> Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO >> >> >> Let me ask again: >> >> Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >> value at all to the PDML? >> >> --Mark >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> >>> ALL CAPS MEANS I AM PISSED OFF. >>> If you actually read what is being said >>> in the posts I am replying to >>> you would understand. I dont >>> start these things but people >>> simply refuse to not get personal >>> when they dont have to and they >>> do it FIRST. I just reply in kind. >>> Like calling me elitest schmuck because >>> I use and recommend a much better >>> screen setup even AFTER I told >>> them it cost less than $200 NEW. >>> Thats really not making any sense >>> whatsoever. Its a personal attack >>> to attempt to win a losing argument, >>> plain and simple... >>> >>> jco >>> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're a BOOB. What have you got against boobs? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fair enough. Care to answer one more question? I'm curious about your views on the nature of the added value. I agree that it makes sense to use ALL CAPS STUFF occasionally for emphasis. I'm more interested in why you think that the aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML. --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont >use them all the time, only when needed. I dont >take the stance there is never any need for CAPS >and hence should never be used. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On Behalf >Of >Mark Erickson >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:37 PM >To: pdml >Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > >JC, > >You still haven't answered my original question: > >Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Could be that having nothing against boobs is his problem WW On 4/4/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're a BOOB. > > What have you got against boobs? > > -frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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If I dont take aggressive countermeasures when attacked agressively, this stuff would never end.. Hopefully these attackers will think twice before they launch into the first stike personal attacks if they know a potential "wrath" in reply may occur... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:05 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Fair enough. Care to answer one more question? I'm curious about your views on the nature of the added value. I agree that it makes sense to use ALL CAPS STUFF occasionally for emphasis. I'm more interested in why you think that the aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML. --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont >use them all the time, only when needed. I dont >take the stance there is never any need for CAPS >and hence should never be used. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On >Behalf >Of Mark Erickson >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:37 PM >To: pdml >Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > >JC, > >You still haven't answered my original question: > >Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bbsss frank theriault wrote: > On 4/4/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You're a BOOB. >> > > What have you got against boobs? > > -frank > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I guess I view the PDML as an information sharing resource for Pentax-related photography rather than as a medium for "first strike personal attacks" and "aggressive countermeasures". Have a nice day, --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > If I dont >take aggressive countermeasures when attacked >agressively, this stuff would never end.. >Hopefully these attackers will think twice >before they launch into the first stike >personal attacks if they know a potential >"wrath" in reply may occur... >jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I wish I knew it as that myself, but thats not my experience unfortunately.. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:59 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO I guess I view the PDML as an information sharing resource for Pentax-related photography rather than as a medium for "first strike personal attacks" and "aggressive countermeasures". Have a nice day, --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > If I dont >take aggressive countermeasures when attacked >agressively, this stuff would never end.. >Hopefully these attackers will think twice >before they launch into the first stike >personal attacks if they know a potential >"wrath" in reply may occur... >jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? I think the number of posts in the resolution threads suggests otherwise. The number of times you have been in similar unpleasant situation also suggests otherwise IMO. I honestly think it is time to reconsider this tactic. And John :-) This is not an attack. It is mainly an observation from the sideline. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 4. april 2007 23:27 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO If I dont take aggressive countermeasures when attacked agressively, this stuff would never end.. Hopefully these attackers will think twice before they launch into the first stike personal attacks if they know a potential "wrath" in reply may occur... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:05 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Fair enough. Care to answer one more question? I'm curious about your views on the nature of the added value. I agree that it makes sense to use ALL CAPS STUFF occasionally for emphasis. I'm more interested in why you think that the aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML. --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont >use them all the time, only when needed. I dont >take the stance there is never any need for CAPS >and hence should never be used. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On >Behalf >Of Mark Erickson >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:37 PM >To: pdml >Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > >JC, > >You still haven't answered my original question: > >Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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yeah right, I am going to start letting people continue to attack and insult me personally without provocation and give no response in reply... Like that's going to happen sometime soon... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:43 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? I think the number of posts in the resolution threads suggests otherwise. The number of times you have been in similar unpleasant situation also suggests otherwise IMO. I honestly think it is time to reconsider this tactic. And John :-) This is not an attack. It is mainly an observation from the sideline. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 4. april 2007 23:27 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO If I dont take aggressive countermeasures when attacked agressively, this stuff would never end.. Hopefully these attackers will think twice before they launch into the first stike personal attacks if they know a potential "wrath" in reply may occur... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:05 PM To: pdml Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Fair enough. Care to answer one more question? I'm curious about your views on the nature of the added value. I agree that it makes sense to use ALL CAPS STUFF occasionally for emphasis. I'm more interested in why you think that the aggressive messages add any value at all to the PDML. --Mark J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >yes I do. the CAPS are for emphisis, and I dont >use them all the time, only when needed. I dont >take the stance there is never any need for CAPS >and hence should never be used. >jco > >-Original Message- >From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On >Behalf >Of Mark Erickson >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:37 PM >To: pdml >Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > >JC, > >You still haven't answered my original question: > >Do you believe that your ALL CAPS RANTS and aggressive messages add any >value at all to the PDML? > > --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 4/5/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? > > It works if your goal is to start and win arguments. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I really think you should go back to the beginning of the thread about resolution, and read it again. What you will see is John reacting perfectly reasonably to a few initially friendly comments about the size of the photos he posted. He explained that it was a quick & dirty gallery, and explained why he didn't want to make the pictures smaller. Later he also explained that if he was putting up a more professional gallery he would include smaller overview-type pictures linking to the larger ones. What you will also see is that people started to include increasingly sarcastic unprovoked and snippy personal comments and nasty little insults intended to goad him. When that was successful people immediately launched into full scale bullying and criticism of him. If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly and it's time it stopped. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tim Øsleby > Sent: 06 April 2007 01:43 > To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' > Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO > > John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? > > I think the number of posts in the resolution threads > suggests otherwise. > The number of times you have been in similar unpleasant situation also > suggests otherwise IMO. > > I honestly think it is time to reconsider this tactic. > > And John :-) > This is not an attack. It is mainly an observation from the sideline. > > > Tim Typo > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That's great! Thanks for being so understanding. I knew you'd finally get it. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > [...] I am going to start letting people continue > to attack and insult me personally without provocation > and give no response in reply... >[...] that's going to happen sometime soon... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Well said and obviously true. Paul On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Bob W wrote: > I really think you should go back to the beginning of the thread about > resolution, and read it again. What you will see is John reacting > perfectly reasonably to a few initially friendly comments about the > size of the photos he posted. He explained that it was a quick & dirty > gallery, and explained why he didn't want to make the pictures > smaller. Later he also explained that if he was putting up a more > professional gallery he would include smaller overview-type pictures > linking to the larger ones. > > What you will also see is that people started to include increasingly > sarcastic unprovoked and snippy personal comments and nasty little > insults intended to goad him. When that was successful people > immediately launched into full scale bullying and criticism of him. > > If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered > out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit > of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly and it's > time it stopped. > > -- > Bob > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Tim Øsleby >> Sent: 06 April 2007 01:43 >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO >> >> John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? >> >> I think the number of posts in the resolution threads >> suggests otherwise. >> The number of times you have been in similar unpleasant situation > also >> suggests otherwise IMO. >> >> I honestly think it is time to reconsider this tactic. >> >> And John :-) >> This is not an attack. It is mainly an observation from the > sideline. >> >> >> Tim Typo >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 4/6/2007 5:06:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered > out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit > of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly and it's > time it stopped. > > -- > Bob === Yes. Bravo. I second that. Marnie aka Doe ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 4/6/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered > out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit > of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly and it's > time it stopped. That's one take on it. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This has happened before, and I am afraid it will happen again. That was, and still is my main concern. Now I'm back to lurk mode in these threads. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 6. april 2007 14:07 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO Well said and obviously true. Paul On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Bob W wrote: > I really think you should go back to the beginning of the thread about > resolution, and read it again. What you will see is John reacting > perfectly reasonably to a few initially friendly comments about the > size of the photos he posted. He explained that it was a quick & dirty > gallery, and explained why he didn't want to make the pictures > smaller. Later he also explained that if he was putting up a more > professional gallery he would include smaller overview-type pictures > linking to the larger ones. > > What you will also see is that people started to include increasingly > sarcastic unprovoked and snippy personal comments and nasty little > insults intended to goad him. When that was successful people > immediately launched into full scale bullying and criticism of him. > > If people hadn't started to snipe at him the thread would have petered > out like any other. But this list has developed a nasty little habit > of picking on John at every little opportunity. It's ugly and it's > time it stopped. > > -- > Bob > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Tim Øsleby >> Sent: 06 April 2007 01:43 >> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >> Subject: RE: The PDML List Demographic and JCO >> >> John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? >> >> I think the number of posts in the resolution threads >> suggests otherwise. >> The number of times you have been in similar unpleasant situation > also >> suggests otherwise IMO. >> >> I honestly think it is time to reconsider this tactic. >> >> And John :-) >> This is not an attack. It is mainly an observation from the > sideline. >> >> >> Tim Typo >> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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My post was written in a context, and was intended read in the same context. The context was that John claimed a tactic of responding to others aggression. As I read him, the tactic is to scare people off from attacking him again. Based on the results of this tactic so far, I humbly suggested another tactic. Based on the reactions I've said more than enough on this, so now I'm shutting up ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 6. april 2007 08:01 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The PDML List Demographic and JCO On 4/5/07, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John. I have a question: Does this tactic work? > > It works if your goal is to start and win arguments. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
