Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial 
version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to 
continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I 
use.

Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove?

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


 Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other
 software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but
 removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter,
 especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most
 people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install
 the OS, barring a complete melt down.

 Kenneth Waller wrote:

The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.



I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.

My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get
advertising with your newspaper.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell




The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:



That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have 
it
your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel







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Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

Shel Belinkoff wrote:




Why wouldn't they?

Shel





[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele


Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that




Who the F knows?

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RE: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-05 Thread Lou Billing
I found this little script on the Dell forums:

http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier

Written specifically to remove Dell bloatware, but works on any brand
computer with any of the listed programs pre-installed. I ran it on mine and
it worked as advertised.

Lou

 -Original Message-
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 Kenneth Waller
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:22 PM
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 Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


 A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial
 version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to
 continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I
 use.

 Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove?

 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


  Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other
  software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but
  removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter,
  especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most
  people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install
  the OS, barring a complete melt down.
 
  Kenneth Waller wrote:
 
 The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
 anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
 
 
 
 I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.
 
 My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same
 reason you get
 advertising with your newspaper.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message -
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
 
 
 
 
 The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
 anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
 
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 
 
 That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
 commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you
 can have
 it
 your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
 
 Shel
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
 Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
 
 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Why wouldn't they?
 
 Shel
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: Ann Sanfedele
 
 
 Actually...
 I asked that NO games be installed on my
 computer but they wouldn't honor that
 
 
 
 
 Who the F knows?
 
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The OEM CD used to be the OS from Microsoft, there was very little trial 
software, sometimes things like the original beta version of MS Money.  
The other crap is often bulk filler supplied by the Manufacture, to 
punch up it's supplied software list.  A company I worked for bought all 
it's programming work stations from Gateway, we got two CD's one of 
Micosoft's NT OS and one of the Gateway enhancements.  The frist thing 
we did when we got them was to take the OEM copy of the OS, (WinNT in 
this case),  Format the Hard drive and install a clean version from the 
included MS installation CD.  Then add drivers for the specific 
additional hardware, network cards, high res video cards etc.   Once 
this was done you had a pretty clean install.  The manufactures don't 
supply those Microsoft OEM CDs anymore.  You didn't want most of the 
crap on the other CD, now you get neither.

Kenneth Waller wrote:

A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial 
version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to 
continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I 
use.

Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove?

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


  

Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other
software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but
removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter,
especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most
people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install
the OS, barring a complete melt down.

Kenneth Waller wrote:



The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.




I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.

My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get
advertising with your newspaper.

Kenneth Waller

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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell




  

The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:





That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have 
it
your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel







  

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Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

Shel Belinkoff wrote:






Why wouldn't they?

Shel





  

[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele


Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that






Who the F knows?

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 I stumbled around and found I had it done without really
 thinking how i did it :)

 Now Im slothfully overloading on freecell


There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of  
$1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a  
$2.00 pack of cards.

Not that there's anything *wrong* with that!  :-)

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it doesn't take care of everything, actually.


I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
bring the freecell window up
to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
for it got big.

sigh

a
=
What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows 
file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others. 
However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For instance, 
with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That 
works in some programs.

But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They 
were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box 
on 
the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it.

I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows 
Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it the 
way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the 
whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find 
that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos.

HTH, Marnie 

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 it doesn't take care of everything, actually.
 
 I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
 bring the freecell window up
 to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
 for it got big.
 
 sigh
 
 a
 =
 What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows
 file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others.
 However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For 
 instance,
 with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That
 works in some programs.

Yes, on my old machine I've done that. 

 
 But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They
 were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box 
 on
 the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it.

Exactly

 
 I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows
 Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it 
 the
 way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the
 whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find
 that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos.
 
 HTH, Marnie
 
Yeah I dont want to change the res just for free cell...
the small screen will keep me from using it too much!

ann

hmmm what is HTH?





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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Charles Robinson wrote:
 
 On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
  I stumbled around and found I had it done without really
  thinking how i did it :)
 
  Now Im slothfully overloading on freecell
 
 
 There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of
 $1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a
 $2.00 pack of cards.
 
 Not that there's anything *wrong* with that!  :-)
 
   -Charles
 
 --

Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my computer but they
wouldn't honor that
however, the lure of freecell (which I'd learned at a
friends house) was insurmountable
to escape from all the stuff I wanted to do but couldnt
figure out. :)

fortunately, I paid well under 1000 for the new machine 

charles, you are making me feel guilty! :)

ann



Mark mentioned BLOATWARE - there is a ton of it.

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why wouldn't they?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele 

 Actually...
 I asked that NO games be installed on my 
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Ann, Windows Power Toys at various times included a quick resolution 
change utility that installed as a monitor icon in the system tray 
allowing you immediate access to every resolutions that your 
card/monitor combination would support.  It was incorporated into 
various sub versions of Windows and some card manufactures also included 
something like it with their bundled software.  There may be something 
like that already on your machine.  I always though it was useful 
because I run a bunch of older programs that don't follow current rules 
for resizing with resolution changes.  I don't run XP so I'm not as 
familier what may be available built into XP.  I will look into if for you.

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it doesn't take care of everything, actually.

I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
bring the freecell window up
to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
for it got big.

sigh

a
=
What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows
file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others.
However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For 
instance,
with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That
works in some programs.



Yes, on my old machine I've done that. 

  

But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They
were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box 
on
the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it.



Exactly

  

I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows
Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it 
the
way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the
whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find
that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos.

HTH, Marnie



Yeah I dont want to change the res just for free cell...
the small screen will keep me from using it too much!

ann

hmmm what is HTH?





  

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 Why wouldn't they?
 
 Shel
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Ann Sanfedele
 
  Actually...
  I asked that NO games be installed on my
  computer but they wouldn't honor that
 

Who the F knows?  

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Re: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
John Coyle wrote:
 
 Hi Ann:
 I can help with these:
 1.  Open Windows Explorer.
  Click Tools/Folder Options
  Click on the View tab
  Under Advanced settings, uncheck the option Hide extensions for
 known file types.
  Click on the Apply to all folders button.
 
 2 and 3.  In reverse order, because you may need to restart the computer
 after changing the DPI
 Right-click the desktop
 Click Properties
 Click the Desktop tab.
 Click Browse and select the image you want as the background.
 Click the Settings tab.
 Click Advanced
 Change the DPI to 120dpi, and apply.
 
 John Coyle
 Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com)
 Brisbane, Australia

Hi, John  
Yup I got that done and I did change the DPI to 120 -
something I stumbled upon.

What happened is I kept plugging away at things before I got
answers
from you very helpful listmates. 

best,
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread graywolf
I believe it comes with windows, no choice there, unless you do a custom 
install.

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Ann Sanfedele wrote:

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 Actually...
 I asked that NO games be installed on my computer but they
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel



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 Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
 Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

 Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  
  Why wouldn't they?
  
  Shel
  
   [Original Message]
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   Actually...
   I asked that NO games be installed on my
   computer but they wouldn't honor that
  

 Who the F knows?  

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing 
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel



  

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Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Why wouldn't they?

Shel

  

[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele


Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that


Who the F knows?  

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
 commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
 your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
 
 Shel
 
Yup -
I'm slowly separating the wheat from the chaffee - 
and quickly took the explorer icon off my desktop
and am using firefox for the web.

When I got the PEntium III 6 years ago - they DID do it my
way.

ann



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  Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  
   Why wouldn't they?
  
   Shel
  
[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele
  
Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that
  
 
  Who the F knows?
 
  ann
 
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Kenneth Waller
 The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
 anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.

My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get 
advertising with your newspaper.

Kenneth Waller

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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


 The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
 anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

 Shel Belinkoff wrote:

That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel





[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


Why wouldn't they?

Shel



[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele


Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that


Who the F knows?

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other 
software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but 
removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, 
especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most 
people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install 
the OS, barring a complete melt down.

Kenneth Waller wrote:

The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.



I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.

My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get 
advertising with your newspaper.

Kenneth Waller

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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


  

The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:



That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
your way.  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel





  

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Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

Shel Belinkoff wrote:




Why wouldn't they?

Shel



  

[Original Message]
From: Ann Sanfedele


Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my
computer but they wouldn't honor that




Who the F knows?

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 10/3/2006 6:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 writes:
 (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in
 
 thanks
 ann
 
 Actually ann XP is the friendliest Windows yet. Once you get it setup the way
 you want you'll be over the hurdle and the plug and play is super nice.
 
 1. Go to the control panel.
 2. Click on Display.
 3. On the Display Properties dialog, click the Appearance tab.
 4. At the bottom is a Font Size selection drop down. You can select Normal,
 Large, and Extra Large.
 5. Click the Apply button.
 
 HTH, Marnie aka Doe
 
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it doesn't take care of everything, actually.
 

I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
bring the freecell window up
to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
for it got big.

sigh

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mat Maessen wrote:
 
 On 10/3/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  (3) I can put my own image on the desktop.
 
 There's more than one way to skin this cat. The way I usually do it:
 
 1. Browser to the location of the image. Right click on it, and open
 it up in your web browser.
 2. Once the image loads in the browser, right-click on it, and select
 Set as Desktop Background.
 
 There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty
 straightforward. Harder to explain than to do it. :-)
 
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I stumbled around and found I had it done without really
thinking how i did it :)

Now Im slothfully overloading on freecell

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OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Hey, Guys

I can see this is going to be fun (NOT)


What do I do so that 
(1) the dos extentions always show
(2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in
(3) I can put my own image on the desktop.

thanks
ann

(I'm not on line with it yet -- dont want to link up until
the colors and fonts are set...)

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Re: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread John Coyle
Hi Ann:
I can help with these:
1.  Open Windows Explorer.
 Click Tools/Folder Options
 Click on the View tab
 Under Advanced settings, uncheck the option Hide extensions for 
known file types.
 Click on the Apply to all folders button.

2 and 3.  In reverse order, because you may need to restart the computer 
after changing the DPI
Right-click the desktop
Click Properties
Click the Desktop tab.
Click Browse and select the image you want as the background.
Click the Settings tab.
Click Advanced
Change the DPI to 120dpi, and apply.



John Coyle
Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com)
Brisbane, Australia
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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


 Hey, Guys

 I can see this is going to be fun (NOT)


 What do I do so that
 (1) the dos extentions always show
 (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in
 (3) I can put my own image on the desktop.

 thanks
 ann

 (I'm not on line with it yet -- dont want to link up until
 the colors and fonts are set...)

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 6:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:
(2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in

thanks
ann

Actually ann XP is the friendliest Windows yet. Once you get it setup the way 
you want you'll be over the hurdle and the plug and play is super nice.

1. Go to the control panel.
2. Click on Display.
3. On the Display Properties dialog, click the Appearance tab.
4. At the bottom is a Font Size selection drop down. You can select Normal, 
Large, and Extra Large.
5. Click the Apply button.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe 

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/3/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (3) I can put my own image on the desktop.

There's more than one way to skin this cat. The way I usually do it:

1. Browser to the location of the image. Right click on it, and open
it up in your web browser.
2. Once the image loads in the browser, right-click on it, and select
Set as Desktop Background.

There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty
straightforward. Harder to explain than to do it. :-)

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OT Again: Windows XP Question

2006-05-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Sorry to keep asking these computer questions, gang, but I figure 
someone here will have the answer.


When my modem connects to my ISP, Windows Media Center Edition puts a 
message in a little bubble at the bottom of the screen telling me so. 
The message stays there until I click to make it go away. No previous 
version of Windows (including two previous installations of XP Home) has 
done this.


No doubt Microsoft thinks this is helpful to me. I consider it yet 
another Microsoft annoyance.


Does anyone know how I can get Windows not to do this?

Thanks,

Joe



Power lines (was Re: XP question)

2003-02-10 Thread mike wilson
Hi,
Hi,

Cotty wrote:

 We have 33kv lines in our streets, alongside the domestic supply of 230 
   volts. We like to live dangerously ;-)

Even better than that, our (UK) national grid uses voltages of
400kV, 275kV and 132kV in above ground lines.  In times of high
demand, you can see the cables sag as they warm up and expand
between pylons.  Birds use them to keep warm.

Considering the number of accidents we have when digger
operators cut local power lines with a measly 240V in them, it's
probably best that they are 30m in the air.

Although, I bought my first motorcycle from the widow of someone
who was flying a control line plane near to one of the 400kV
lines...

mike




Re: Power lines (was Re: XP question)

2003-02-10 Thread Jostein
This week-end I heard of a couple of skiing tourists who got fried by
the railway power cable on the Oslo-Bergen route last year. They came
downhill, unaware, towards the track in poor weather. It hit them in
the chest before they fell down on the track. Snow depth at the place
was about 3 meters. Tough luck.

Jostein

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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: Power lines (was Re: XP question)


 Hi,
 Hi,

 Cotty wrote:

  We have 33kv lines in our streets, alongside the domestic supply
of 230
volts. We like to live dangerously ;-)

 Even better than that, our (UK) national grid uses voltages of
 400kV, 275kV and 132kV in above ground lines.  In times of high
 demand, you can see the cables sag as they warm up and expand
 between pylons.  Birds use them to keep warm.

 Considering the number of accidents we have when digger
 operators cut local power lines with a measly 240V in them, it's
 probably best that they are 30m in the air.

 Although, I bought my first motorcycle from the widow of someone
 who was flying a control line plane near to one of the 400kV
 lines...

 mike






Re: OT: XP question

2003-02-10 Thread Peter Alling
I'm pretty sure you can, the file system is NTFS but I don't think XP supplies
you with a utility.

At 06:20 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Hi:

Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just installed an 80GB HD
and was able to partition that no problem. Using the same techniques on the
C (main) HD the format option is grayed out. I have a format option in My
Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all of my
programs.

Any help appreciated

TIA

BUTCH

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Re: XP question

2003-02-09 Thread Shaun Canning
need more power...powermust have...

must havemore power...now.

...ahh precious power

:):):):

Shaun


Cotty wrote:

You have 33kv lines in the streets in Australia? My God! Are your power
companies and legislators insane?



We have 33kv lines in our streets, alongside the domestic supply of 230 
volts. We like to live dangerously ;-)

Cotty


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RE: OT XP question

2003-02-08 Thread Butch Black
Thank you for all who answered my question.

I think the transfer, reformat and partition, and re-transfer is my best
option. I'm running XP home. How do I make sure I have everything off C
drive before reformatting? As this is very OT and may be long, please feel
free to contact me off list.

BUTCH

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Re: XP question

2003-02-08 Thread Leonard Paris








From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XP question
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:23:39 +

Hi,

  That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system
  Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew up most of the components on 
my PC including BOTH hard drives.
  Darned unlucky. I'd have put money on it that I wouldn't have two disks 
fail at the same time.

That's the way Sod's Law works!

---

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That's what a really good UPS is for, preventing surges and sags from 
damaging your hardware.

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Re: XP question

2003-02-08 Thread Dr E D F Williams
You have 33kv lines in the streets in Australia? My God! Are your power
companies and legislators insane?

Don

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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: XP question


 On 8 Feb 2003 at 19:18, Leonard Paris wrote:

  That's what a really good UPS is for, preventing surges and sags from
  damaging your hardware.

 Amen, I have APC UPS on all my computers. A few years back we had an
insulator
 come loose on an aerial 33kV line in the street which fell across the
aerial
 240V mains vaporizing them. It also blew down-pipes off buildings, fused
all
 our earth wiring, blew the gas meter off it's perch across the street and
lit a
 gas plume, blew fuses in most appliances, blew light bulbs, damaged my
Telcos
 equipment and perforated copper water pipes. But my computers (and hard
drives)
 survived :-)

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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RE: XP question

2003-02-07 Thread Rob Brigham
You can partition an empty disk, up until the point that there is no
'unpartitioned' space on it anymore.  Without an add on tool like
partition magic, you cannot change the size of a partition once it has
been set up.  Your C drive was presumably formatted with a single
partition fillinf the whole disk.  DO NOT use the format option on the C
drive, because the only way XP can format the disk as standard is to
wipe it!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 06 February 2003 23:21
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: XP question
 
 
 Hi:
 
 Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just 
 installed an 80GB HD and was able to partition that no 
 problem. Using the same techniques on the C (main) HD the 
 format option is grayed out. I have a format option in My 
 Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all 
 of my programs.
 
 Any help appreciated
 
 TIA
 
 BUTCH
 
 Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
 
 Hermann Hess (Damien)
 
 




Re: Re: XP question

2003-02-07 Thread Leonard Paris
Well, not really that simple. When you re-partition the drive, you'll have 
to have enough space on your C:\ partition to hold the image that you made 
of it originally.  Mainly because the registry is going to look for all of 
your programs in the same places they were before you repartitioned the 
drive.

The only sure way is to back up all of your data and then partition and 
format the drive the way that you want it.  Then, you re-install all of your 
software from the original disks into the partitions in which you want them. 
 Last, you bring back your data into the appropriate program 
subdirectories, where the programs will expect to find it.

There are other ways to do this, one of which uses the Norton's Ghost 
program.  You install a new hard drive, of the size you desire.  You 
partition and format the partitions the way that you want, making the first 
partition bootable.

Then you use Norton Ghost to move the applications and their data files to 
the places where you want them on the other drive.  Now you go into CMOS and 
make the new drive the primary drive and boot from it.

You can now fdisk and format your original drive any way you want.  You can 
even make an image of the new drive and clone it onto the old drive, if you 
wish. Then go back and reset the CMOS to boot from the old drive.

After this is done, you have the perfect backup system.  Just periodically 
image the old drive to the new one.  If the old one fails, or is corrupted, 
you can reformat it and image the new drive back to it again.  Or replace 
the old drive and put an image of the backup drive on it and keep right on 
keepin' on.

It's a lot easier to do than it is to tell about it and new hard drives are 
really very cheap.  If what you have on your computer is important to you,  
the machine should have two drives set up like this with a third drive 
sitting on a shelf just in case one of the two operating drives should fail.

There are other ways to do all of this, this way minimizes risk and hair 
tearing.

Len
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From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: XP question
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:15:01 +0200

Quite easy and you have several opportunities to decide whether what the
program is about to do is actually what you want. Of course you should back
up your files first; just in case the power fails in the middle of the
operation. To do this there is another program, by the same people, called
Drive Image. This will make an exact image of your drive that can be put
back easily in case of trouble. Of course - if you just buy Drive Image and
do a backup you can then use DOS's Fdisk to re-partition your drive. You 
can
then format the new partitions, make the first active and put everything
back from the image and save some money. You need to be sure that the new
partition is big enough for the image. But when I did it I merely backed up
some important files to CD and then re-partitioned the drive with PMagic. 
It
went smoothly.

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- Original Message -
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Re: XP question


 Don.
 I'm thinking of getting Partition Magic to
 slice up my 40 Gig HD(XP Home version)Is it relativley
 painfree to use:)

 Dave
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 From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:42:25 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: XP question


 I use XP Pro and used Partition Magic to change the partitions on C:

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 - Original Message -
  From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:20 AM
 Subject: OT: XP question


  Hi:
 
  Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just installed an
 80GB HD
  and was able to partition that no problem. Using the same
 techniques on
 the
  C (main) HD the format option is grayed out. I have a format option
 in My
  Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all of my
  programs.
 
  Any help appreciated
 
  TIA
 
  BUTCH
 
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Re: Re: XP question

2003-02-07 Thread WBeard
   

 Len wrote:

   

   After this is done, you have the perfect backup system.  Just periodically image 
the old drive to the new one.  If the
   old one fails, or is corrupted, you can reformat it and image the new drive back 
to it again.  Or replace the old drive
   and put an image of the backup drive on it and keep right on keepin' on.   

 That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system

 Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew up most of the components on my PC 
including BOTH hard drives. 
 Darned unlucky. I'd have put money on it that I wouldn't have two disks fail at the 
same time.
   





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Re: Re: XP question

2003-02-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 Feb 2003 at 17:30, Leonard Paris wrote:
 
 The only sure way is to back up all of your data and then partition and 
 format the drive the way that you want it.  Then, you re-install all of your
 software from the original disks into the partitions in which you want them. 
   Last, you bring back your data into the appropriate program 
 subdirectories, where the programs will expect to find it.

Got to agree with Len on this one, a duplicate transfer is the only way that 
you can guarantee the preservation of your data. I have seen more drives/data 
trashed by Partition Magic over the years than I'd care to recall.

Rob Studdert
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Re: XP question

2003-02-07 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

  That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system
  Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew up most of the components on my PC 
including BOTH hard drives. 
  Darned unlucky. I'd have put money on it that I wouldn't have two disks fail at the 
same time.
   

That's the way Sod's Law works!

---

 Bob  




Re: XP question

2003-02-06 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I use XP Pro and used Partition Magic to change the partitions on C:

Don
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- Original Message -
From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:20 AM
Subject: OT: XP question


 Hi:

 Is it possible to partition the main HD in XP? I just installed an 80GB HD
 and was able to partition that no problem. Using the same techniques on
the
 C (main) HD the format option is grayed out. I have a format option in My
 Computer but I'm leery of using it for fear of wiping out all of my
 programs.

 Any help appreciated

 TIA

 BUTCH

 Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

 Hermann Hess (Damien)