Re: Re; funny K10D story

2006-07-27 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> It takes AA batteries -- that was one of the things he himself was 
> interested in knowing.
> 
> He's cagey about the name and is probably not supposed to say anything 
> about it.  He takes great pains to not call it the K10D, for whatever 
> that's worth.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> -
> 
> Thanks again, Aaron.
> 
> Now the question is: which camera did he handle? By some reports there 
> will be two 10 mp cameras -- a D replacement and a DS replacement. But 
> it looked like the D replacement was going to be released first. It has 
> been shown. A DS replacement hasn't.
> 
> But I'm feeling better. There will be a 10 mp camera with shake 
> reduction that takes disposable batteries. I just hope it has the 
> controls of the D.

All the mock-ups we've seen have had the two-wheel control layout.
I'm pretty sure that the interview with the Pentax high-up mentioned
a vertical grip, as well.  The only unanswered question that I'm
bothered about is whether it manages 4fps or better for at least
2 frames.  Other things (PC socket, USM focussing, ...) interest
me, but not enough to affect a decision on whether or not to buy.


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Re: Re; funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds
The camera he handled had a front control wheel and an optional portrait 
release grip, like the D.

-Aaron

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Date:  Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:54 pm
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Now the question is: which camera did he handle? By some reports there 
will be two 10 mp cameras -- a D replacement and a DS replacement. But 
it looked like the D replacement was going to be released first. It has 
been shown. A DS replacement hasn't.

But I'm feeling better. There will be a 10 mp camera with shake 
reduction that takes disposable batteries. I just hope it has the 
controls of the D.

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Re: Re; funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote:
> It takes AA batteries -- that was one of the things he himself was 
> interested in knowing.
> 
> He's cagey about the name and is probably not supposed to say anything 
> about it.  He takes great pains to not call it the K10D, for whatever 
> that's worth.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> -
> 
> Thanks again, Aaron.
> 
> Now the question is: which camera did he handle? By some reports there 
> will be two 10 mp cameras -- a D replacement and a DS replacement. But 
> it looked like the D replacement was going to be released first. It has 
> been shown. A DS replacement hasn't.
> 
> But I'm feeling better. There will be a 10 mp camera with shake 
> reduction that takes disposable batteries. I just hope it has the 
> controls of the D.
> 
> Joe
> 

I expect there will only be a D replacement if it's a 3fps body. Pentax 
simply doesn't have room in the pricing structure for more than 3 bodys 
from $1000 down.

-Adam


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Re; funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
It takes AA batteries -- that was one of the things he himself was 
interested in knowing.

He's cagey about the name and is probably not supposed to say anything 
about it.  He takes great pains to not call it the K10D, for whatever 
that's worth.

-Aaron

-

Thanks again, Aaron.

Now the question is: which camera did he handle? By some reports there 
will be two 10 mp cameras -- a D replacement and a DS replacement. But 
it looked like the D replacement was going to be released first. It has 
been shown. A DS replacement hasn't.

But I'm feeling better. There will be a 10 mp camera with shake 
reduction that takes disposable batteries. I just hope it has the 
controls of the D.

Joe

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds
It takes AA batteries -- that was one of the things he himself was interested 
in knowing.

He's cagey about the name and is probably not supposed to say anything about 
it.  He takes great pains to not call it the K10D, for whatever that's worth.

-Aaron

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From:  Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date:  Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:47 pm
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 > Great. But where did he get his hands on a K10D? Pentax has not
 > announced it yet.

Distributors in Canada and the US have pre-release K10D bodies
currently.  I don't know about the rest of the world.

What did you want to know?  I can ask, though specific feature
questions may be subject to change

-

Great, Aaron. My big question right now is whether it requires a 
proprietary rechargeable battery. Or is there a way to put throwaway 
batteries in it?

There's a big fuss about this over at dpreview. A Swedish newspaper 
reported that it takes a proprietary battery like the Nikon D200. This 
made me unhappy because sometimes I shoot in places that don't have 
electricity -- like my work in the Sahel of Mali, or just a domestic 
camping trip.

So it really is called the K10D?

Thanks much.

Joe

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I'll see if I can find out about the battery.

He didn't call it the K10D, he called it the ten megapixel Pentax DSLR that's 
coming out in the fall.

-Aaron

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 > Great. But where did he get his hands on a K10D? Pentax has not
 > announced it yet.

Distributors in Canada and the US have pre-release K10D bodies
currently.  I don't know about the rest of the world.

What did you want to know?  I can ask, though specific feature
questions may be subject to change

-

Great, Aaron. My big question right now is whether it requires a 
proprietary rechargeable battery. Or is there a way to put throwaway 
batteries in it?

There's a big fuss about this over at dpreview. A Swedish newspaper 
reported that it takes a proprietary battery like the Nikon D200. This 
made me unhappy because sometimes I shoot in places that don't have 
electricity -- like my work in the Sahel of Mali, or just a domestic 
camping trip.

So it really is called the K10D?

Thanks much.

Joe

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
 > Great. But where did he get his hands on a K10D? Pentax has not
 > announced it yet.

Distributors in Canada and the US have pre-release K10D bodies
currently.  I don't know about the rest of the world.

What did you want to know?  I can ask, though specific feature
questions may be subject to change

-

Great, Aaron. My big question right now is whether it requires a 
proprietary rechargeable battery. Or is there a way to put throwaway 
batteries in it?

There's a big fuss about this over at dpreview. A Swedish newspaper 
reported that it takes a proprietary battery like the Nikon D200. This 
made me unhappy because sometimes I shoot in places that don't have 
electricity -- like my work in the Sahel of Mali, or just a domestic 
camping trip.

So it really is called the K10D?

Thanks much.

Joe

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

> Great. But where did he get his hands on a K10D? Pentax has not
> announced it yet.

Distributors in Canada and the US have pre-release K10D bodies 
currently.  I don't know about the rest of the world.

What did you want to know?  I can ask, though specific feature 
questions may be subject to change.  I'm certain that the firmware 
hasn't been finalized in this body, and very likely it would be like 
the 540 flash that's been hanging around Pentax Canada for a year now 
that's pretty different from the released version --it's functional and 
it looks the same, but some of the features don't work or don't work in 
the correct way.

Apparently the 540 was held back and underwent some changes to be more 
compatible with the new K-series DSLRs, and that's what caused its 
delay.

-Aaron

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-26 Thread Joseph Tainter
A friend of mine has been contemplating a 10MP digital SLRA few days 
ago he handled a pre-release K10D.  He called me up literally a minute 
later to tell me that he was buying it as soon as one was available.

-

Great. But where did he get his hands on a K10D? Pentax has not 
announced it yet.

If possible, I want to get my hands on one.

Or was this the K100D?

If it was the K10D, I have some questions for your friend.

Thanks,

Joe

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-18 Thread Aaron Reynolds
It's not that Jens is "wrong", it's that he blames his camera for the fact that 
he spends a lot of time on post-production.  His problem is simply his style of 
shooting.

-Aaron

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Yes, I believe in cropping. In fact I usually shoot with the intent of 
cropping as part of the processing. One of the many reason mini-lab 
prints never quite did it for me (short of using a pair of scissors, 
grin). With event photography one has to shoot tightly because "develop 
and print" is the only way to make a profit at the low prices you get 
paid. I will always remember the Speed Graphic ad from back in the 50's 
that was titled "One Good Negative, Seven Great Photos" in which they 
showed seven crops from the negative that were entirely different 
pictures from each other. SO! If the crop is planned from the start it 
is no different than a full frame shot except that one has the choice of 
formats other than the one native to the camera. I agree with Jens on 
this one.

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Jens Bladt wrote:
> Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image.
> I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my
> turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to
> domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or
> the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main
> attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain
> quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the
> shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original
> iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only
> one who work this way.
> That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for
> discussion at the PDML ;-)
> A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull -  especally if
> there's enough MP's to work with.
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
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> 
> There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One
> certainly has enough time to think about it.
> Paul
>  -- Original message --
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>> From: "Jens Bladt"
>> Subject: RE: funny K10D story
>>
>>
>>> WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
>>> For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't
> really
>>> crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough
> resolution.
>>
>> Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-18 Thread graywolf
Yes, I believe in cropping. In fact I usually shoot with the intent of 
cropping as part of the processing. One of the many reason mini-lab 
prints never quite did it for me (short of using a pair of scissors, 
grin). With event photography one has to shoot tightly because "develop 
and print" is the only way to make a profit at the low prices you get 
paid. I will always remember the Speed Graphic ad from back in the 50's 
that was titled "One Good Negative, Seven Great Photos" in which they 
showed seven crops from the negative that were entirely different 
pictures from each other. SO! If the crop is planned from the start it 
is no different than a full frame shot except that one has the choice of 
formats other than the one native to the camera. I agree with Jens on 
this one.

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Jens Bladt wrote:
> Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image.
> I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my
> turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to
> domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or
> the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main
> attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain
> quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the
> shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original
> iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only
> one who work this way.
> That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for
> discussion at the PDML ;-)
> A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull -  especally if
> there's enough MP's to work with.
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> +45 56 63 77 11
> +45 23 43 85 77
> Skype: jensbladt248
> 
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> 
> There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One
> certainly has enough time to think about it.
> Paul
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> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jens Bladt"
>> Subject: RE: funny K10D story
>>
>>
>>> WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
>>> For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't
> really
>>> crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough
> resolution.
>>
>> Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing
> less
>> post processing.
>> We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems.
>>
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 17.07.2006, at 10:02 , Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote:

> I've tested the DA 16-45 f/4 (btw are you also dissapointed by it's
> construction? There is a huge play in the focusing ring and the
> barrel, almost as in the FA 28-80 f/3.5-5.6)  with my MZ-6, after AF
> locked, I was able to turn the focus ring, but only in one direction.
That's funny, as I handled three various DA 16-45 and there was very  
little play in extended barrel and there was no play at all in the  
focusing ring which acted very nicely - perhaps not as good as in MF  
lenses, but much better than in FA zooms or for instance Nikon AF-S  
24-85/3.5-4.5. Anyway its build quality is much better than of non- 
star FA zooms. Maybe your test sample was broken??? :-)

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RE: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Well, there is IMO. I can't always know exactly how I want to use the image.
I often see posibilities in an image AFTER it's has been taken. A smile my
turn out differently, the angle of the eyes. A shoulder that is to
domitating, which I did't notice because I was concentratiog on the eyes or
the right smile - must be cropped away. I often decide what the main
attraction is later, then I crop it accordingly to emphasize this certain
quality. Photographers have always done this. Cropping. Look at all the
shaot done of Marily Monroe - a website somewhere shows both the original
iamge as well as the cropped, final image. SO, I'm certainly not the only
one who work this way.
That's probably the reason why cropping frequently is a subject for
discussion at the PDML ;-)
A second frame in the viewfinde could be quite usefull -  especally if
there's enough MP's to work with.
Regards
Jens Bladt
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There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One
certainly has enough time to think about it.
Paul
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> Subject: RE: funny K10D story
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> > WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
> > For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't
really
> > crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough
resolution.
>
>
> Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing
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> post processing.
> We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems.
>
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread pnstenquist
There's no excuse for not getting the frame correct in a studio shot. One 
certainly has enough time to think about it. 
Paul
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> Subject: RE: funny K10D story
> 
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> > WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
> > For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really
> > crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution.
> 
> 
> Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less 
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> We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems.
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread William Robb

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Subject: RE: funny K10D story


> WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
> For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really
> crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution.


Not cropping later is related to getting it right in camera, and doing less 
post processing.
We discussed this with you last week with your exposure problems.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-17 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 7/16/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also
> appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms
> will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The
> clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so
> they are not fully compatible with older bodies.
>
> -Aaron3w
>

I've tested the DA 16-45 f/4 (btw are you also dissapointed by it's
construction? There is a huge play in the focusing ring and the
barrel, almost as in the FA 28-80 f/3.5-5.6)  with my MZ-6, after AF
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RE: funny K10D story

2006-07-16 Thread Jens Bladt
WOW, I must start saving real quick - the fall isn't that far ahead!
For studiowork, I don't think 6MP is quite enough, because I can't really
crop later. I must crop while shooting, in order to get enough resolution.
10 MP would be just about what I want, resolution wise :-) Then I might jsut
as well sell my 6x6 Pentacon outfit.
Would it look anything like this:
http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2006-05/20/GX2-1.jpg
Regards

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On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

> But that's not a 10MP body, is it?

Hi Jens -- the K10D (not the K110D) is a 10MP body.  It is a higher-end
machine than the current offerings.  You'd probably want it if you
played with it.  It'll be out in the fall.

The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also
appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms
will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The
clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so
they are not fully compatible with older bodies.

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Re: K10D battery grip? (Was Re: funny K10D story)

2006-07-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 16, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> Aaron (or others) - do you know (or could you tell from the body base
> plate) if the K10D is planned to have an add-on battery grip like the
> *ist-D?

It will have a vertical release grip.  I can only guess whether or not 
it has batteries in it, though it would make little sense for it NOT to 
contain batteries.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-16 Thread Adam Maas
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
> 
> 
>>But that's not a 10MP body, is it?
> 
> 
> Hi Jens -- the K10D (not the K110D) is a 10MP body.  It is a higher-end 
> machine than the current offerings.  You'd probably want it if you 
> played with it.  It'll be out in the fall.
> 
> The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also 
> appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms 
> will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The 
> clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so 
> they are not fully compatible with older bodies.
> 
> -Aaron3w
> 

All DA and D-FA lenses are clutched.

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Re: K10D battery grip? (Was Re: funny K10D story)

2006-07-16 Thread David Savage
Good to know.

Would be sweet if uses the D-BG1, though I'm not holding my breath on that.

Dave

On 7/16/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Savage wrote:
> >>
> >I wonder the same thing. Though I've never seen a shot of the K10D's base 
> >plate.
>
> Rumor mill says it *will* have an optional battery grip like the
> ist-D.
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Re: K10D battery grip? (Was Re: funny K10D story)

2006-07-16 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

>On 7/16/06, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Aaron (or others) - do you know (or could you tell from the body base
>> plate) if the K10D is planned to have an add-on battery grip like the
>> *ist-D?
>>
>I wonder the same thing. Though I've never seen a shot of the K10D's base 
>plate.

Rumor mill says it *will* have an optional battery grip like the
ist-D.
 
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Re: K10D battery grip? (Was Re: funny K10D story)

2006-07-16 Thread David Savage
I wonder the same thing. Though I've never seen a shot of the K10D's base plate.

Dave

On 7/16/06, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aaron (or others) - do you know (or could you tell from the body base
> plate) if the K10D is planned to have an add-on battery grip like the
> *ist-D?
>
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K10D battery grip? (Was Re: funny K10D story)

2006-07-16 Thread Stan Halpin
Aaron (or others) - do you know (or could you tell from the body base 
plate) if the K10D is planned to have an add-on battery grip like the 
*ist-D?

Stan


On Jul 16, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

>
> On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
>
>> But that's not a 10MP body, is it?
>
> Hi Jens -- the K10D (not the K110D) is a 10MP body.  It is a higher-end
> machine than the current offerings.  You'd probably want it if you
> played with it.  It'll be out in the fall.
>
> The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also
> appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms
> will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The
> clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so
> they are not fully compatible with older bodies.
>
> -Aaron3w
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-16 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 16, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:

> But that's not a 10MP body, is it?

Hi Jens -- the K10D (not the K110D) is a 10MP body.  It is a higher-end 
machine than the current offerings.  You'd probably want it if you 
played with it.  It'll be out in the fall.

The clutch I played with was on the new 40mm limited pancake.  It also 
appears on the new primes.  Someone who's played with the new zooms 
will have to tell you whether or not it appears on those as well.  The 
clutch works on any body, though the lenses have no aperture ring so 
they are not fully compatible with older bodies.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-15 Thread John Francis

No - the new DA lenses have this feature.  In fact it's even
easier than the old FA lenses; there's no need to move any
switch to AF mode (just move the focus ring).  Canon have
had this for some time - it's referred to as full-time
manual focus (or touch-up).

Oh, and another thing - the K10D is (supposedly) a 10MP body.
Perhaps you're getting it confused with the K100D/K110D ?


On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 06:44:22AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote:
> Yup, thats a great feature. But only on older lenses, like the FA lenses,
> made for PZ-1, right?
> 
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> 
> 
> On Jul 11, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?
> 
> Yes -- he was a big fan of the clutch thingamajig that lets you focus
> manually while in AF mode.  He bought the 40mm pancake and one of the
> wider primes.
> 
> I'm a fan of that clutch thingamajig myself.
> 
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RE: funny K10D story

2006-07-15 Thread Jens Bladt
Yup, thats a great feature. But only on older lenses, like the FA lenses,
made for PZ-1, right?

Jens Bladt
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On Jul 11, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?

Yes -- he was a big fan of the clutch thingamajig that lets you focus
manually while in AF mode.  He bought the 40mm pancake and one of the
wider primes.

I'm a fan of that clutch thingamajig myself.

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RE: funny K10D story

2006-07-15 Thread Jens Bladt
But that's not a 10MP body, is it?
Regards

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Funny, or perhaps encouraging.

A friend of mine has been contemplating a 10MP digital SLR.  He had
decided, based mostly on specs, that he was most interested in two
cameras -- the K10D and the Sony Alpha.  (He has no 35mm lenses to
speak of, so that's not a consideration for him, though I suppose I
could try to convince him that he should buy an adaptor and put his 67
glass on the K10D...)

A few days ago he handled a pre-release K10D.  He called me up
literally a minute later to tell me that he was buying it as soon as
one was available.  The next day he went out and bought some Pentax
lenses.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-12 Thread Mark Roberts
Aaron Reynolds wrote:

>Funny, or perhaps encouraging.
>
>A friend of mine has been contemplating a 10MP digital SLR.  He had 
>decided, based mostly on specs, that he was most interested in two 
>cameras -- the K10D and the Sony Alpha.  (He has no 35mm lenses to 
>speak of, so that's not a consideration for him, though I suppose I 
>could try to convince him that he should buy an adaptor and put his 67 
>glass on the K10D...)
>
>A few days ago he handled a pre-release K10D.  He called me up 
>literally a minute later to tell me that he was buying it as soon as 
>one was available.  The next day he went out and bought some Pentax 
>lenses.

So... There are preproduction K10D's in circulation? That's a *very*
good sign as far as making the predicted September availability
timeframe! I've got my credit card ready. Any word on price?
(Not that I expect there to be any, but I had to ask...)

I'm hoping to put it into immediate use just as soon as I can get my
mitts on one!
 
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Igor Roshchin

The sign on the shop said:

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hootinannies gadgets
doohingies

(c) Ray Barbury ("Doodad")


Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:26:21 -0700
Kenneth Waller wrote:

How about whatch-a-ma-call-it or thinga-ma -bob?

Kenneth Waller

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> Anyone who uses the term,"thingamajig" can't be all bad.
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
How about whatch-a-ma-call-it or thinga-ma -bob?

Kenneth Waller

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> Anyone who uses the term,"thingamajig" can't be all bad.
> Love tech speak. ;-))
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> 
>> On Jul 11, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> > Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?
>> 
>> Yes -- he was a big fan of the clutch thingamajig that lets you focus
>> 
>> manually while in AF mode.  He bought the 40mm pancake and one of the
>> 
>> wider primes.
>> 
>> I'm a fan of that clutch thingamajig myself.
>> 
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 7/11/06, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Funny, or perhaps encouraging.

Funny? What are you talking about? Now I'll have to buy that thing! I
don't need it, of course - my DS is a wonderful camera (even if the AF
could be faster); but...
Well, time to do some shopping training with the DA 16-45 :(

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Jack Davis
Anyone who uses the term,"thingamajig" can't be all bad.
Love tech speak. ;-))

Jack

--- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jul 11, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?
> 
> Yes -- he was a big fan of the clutch thingamajig that lets you focus
> 
> manually while in AF mode.  He bought the 40mm pancake and one of the
> 
> wider primes.
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> I'm a fan of that clutch thingamajig myself.
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

>> Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?
>
> Yes -- he was a big fan of the clutch thingamajig that lets you focus
> manually while in AF mode.  He bought the 40mm pancake and one of the
> wider primes.
>
> I'm a fan of that clutch thingamajig myself.

The QuickShift focus feature on DA series lenses is fantastic. I wish  
they'd update all the mounts of my favorite lenses to include it. It  
is by far and away the one feature that I actually miss switching  
from Canon to Pentax gear.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Jack Davis
Aaron,
Sounds like your friend has some equipment experience and excellent
judgment.
Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?
Obviously I don't need to know, but I'm beginning to ask myself such
questions.
Thanks.

Jack
--- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Funny, or perhaps encouraging.
> 
> A friend of mine has been contemplating a 10MP digital SLR.  He had 
> decided, based mostly on specs, that he was most interested in two 
> cameras -- the K10D and the Sony Alpha.  (He has no 35mm lenses to 
> speak of, so that's not a consideration for him, though I suppose I 
> could try to convince him that he should buy an adaptor and put his
> 67 
> glass on the K10D...)
> 
> A few days ago he handled a pre-release K10D.  He called me up 
> literally a minute later to tell me that he was buying it as soon as 
> one was available.  The next day he went out and bought some Pentax 
> lenses.
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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 11, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Are you familiar with the glass he bought? Was it "D" only?

Yes -- he was a big fan of the clutch thingamajig that lets you focus 
manually while in AF mode.  He bought the 40mm pancake and one of the 
wider primes.

I'm a fan of that clutch thingamajig myself.

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Re: funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Adam Maas
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> Funny, or perhaps encouraging.
> 
> A friend of mine has been contemplating a 10MP digital SLR.  He had 
> decided, based mostly on specs, that he was most interested in two 
> cameras -- the K10D and the Sony Alpha.  (He has no 35mm lenses to 
> speak of, so that's not a consideration for him, though I suppose I 
> could try to convince him that he should buy an adaptor and put his 67 
> glass on the K10D...)
> 
> A few days ago he handled a pre-release K10D.  He called me up 
> literally a minute later to tell me that he was buying it as soon as 
> one was available.  The next day he went out and bought some Pentax 
> lenses.
> 
> -Aaron
> 

Good to hear.

I've played a bit with the Alpha (henry's downtown has a demo unit) and 
I wasn't all that impressed. It's solid, but doesn't handle as well as 
the DS/DL, and has a real 'plastic' feel (tough plastic, no give, but 
plastic nonetheless). And the kit lens is unimpressive to say the least 
(cheap plastic, horrid Nikon-style focus ring, but no cheap G lens wobble).

Not impressed. I was expecting more for the cost. I'd have been 
considerably more impressed with the unit if it was a 6MP unit for DL money.

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funny K10D story

2006-07-11 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Funny, or perhaps encouraging.

A friend of mine has been contemplating a 10MP digital SLR.  He had 
decided, based mostly on specs, that he was most interested in two 
cameras -- the K10D and the Sony Alpha.  (He has no 35mm lenses to 
speak of, so that's not a consideration for him, though I suppose I 
could try to convince him that he should buy an adaptor and put his 67 
glass on the K10D...)

A few days ago he handled a pre-release K10D.  He called me up 
literally a minute later to tell me that he was buying it as soon as 
one was available.  The next day he went out and bought some Pentax 
lenses.

-Aaron

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