[HACKERS] Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Properly set relpersistence for fake relcache entries.

2012-09-14 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

Does this mean we need to wrap new tarballs soon, because of the data loss
bug?

Regards,
Devrim

14 Eylül 2012, Cuma, 4:42 pm tarihinde, Robert Haas yazmış:
 Properly set relpersistence for fake relcache entries.

 This can result in buffers failing to be properly flushed at
 checkpoint time, leading to data loss.

 Report, diagnosis, and patch by Jeff Davis.

 Branch
 --
 REL9_1_STABLE

 Details
 ---
 http://git.postgresql.org/pg/commitdiff/fef2c17807e095a04441e4f1fe05f75d5578ead2

 Modified Files
 --
 src/backend/access/transam/xlogutils.c |5 +
 src/backend/storage/buffer/bufmgr.c|2 ++
 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)


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Re: ANNOUNCE list (was Re: [HACKERS] New PGXN Extension site)

2010-06-16 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

I don't moderate -announce.

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On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 10:34 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:

Why is there significant delay on important posts, yet some posts go
almost straight though? Every time I use Announce my posts are  
delayed

for about 4-5 days.

Why do some posts jump the queue, appearing to imply the moderator  
is

being selective in releasing some, yet not others?

Do we need some more moderators?


Yes.

Currently the only moderators for -announce are Marc and Greg S-M.


And me, and devrim and a number of others.

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Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] urgent: upgraded to 8.2, getting kernel panics

2007-02-26 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 08:24 -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote:
 we tried update to the latest via yum update with no help.

As Tom stated, FC4 is no more supported; therefore you won't be able to
get newer kernel via yum.

 as promised, here is the  best photo of the panic we could get:
 http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dumpic6.jpg

...bad locking...

The picture reminded me a SCSI driver bug in older kernels -- I google'd
again now and I saw a post that says native drivers are being used in
FC5+ kernels. If this is the real case, you may hit the problem
sometime later.

Upgrading OS will probably solve your problem; since there is no way to
upgrade FC4 kernel unless you want to compile kernel source on your
system.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] urgent: upgraded to 8.2, getting kernel panics

2007-02-23 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 17:14 -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote:

 BUG: spinlock recursion CPU0 postmaster...not tainted.

snip

 Has anybody seen any problem like this or have any suggestions about
 possible resolution...should I be posting to the LKML?  

AFAIR (+ some quick Googling), this is related to a problem in kernel.
You may need to update to a newer Fedora release since FC4 is not
supported anymore :(. 

Even if you report to LKML, they will probably suggest you using a newer
kernel. However, I think system will not let you compile a new kernel
and panic again during a high load... So...

If you have a free space, install a newer Fedora release on this system,
mount the existing $PGDATA and try if this fixes the problem...
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[HACKERS] [Fwd: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix for early log messages during postmaster startup getting lost]

2007-02-11 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

It is very good to see Magnus among committers. Congrats Magnus!

Cheers, Devrim

 Forwarded Message 
 From: Magnus Hagander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pgsql-committers@postgresql.org
 Subject: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Fix for early log messages during
 postmaster startup getting lost
 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:59:26 -0400 (AST)
 
 Log Message:
 ---
 Fix for early log messages during postmaster startup getting lost when
 running as a service on Win32.
 
 Per report from Harald Armin Massa.
 
 Modified Files:
 --
 pgsql/src/backend/postmaster:
 postmaster.c (r1.519 - r1.520)
 
 (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/backend/postmaster/postmaster.c.diff?r1=1.519r2=1.520)
 pgsql/src/backend/utils/error:
 elog.c (r1.181 - r1.182)
 
 (http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/backend/utils/error/elog.c.diff?r1=1.181r2=1.182)
 
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL 8.2 : regression failures on IA-64

2006-12-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 19:57 +0900, Tatsuhito Kasahara wrote:
 I think this was caused by a description mistake of
 postgresql-test.patch.

Yeah, I just figured that while I was looking at what Tom did for FC-7
RPMs.

I committed the new patch to CVS. 

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Re: [HACKERS] Giving up multiple postmaster + RPM issue

2006-11-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 01:27 -0800, Paul Lindner wrote:
 Everything goes into /usr/local/pg7.4 and /usr/local/pg8.1, init
 scripts are /etc/init.d/postgres8.1, /etc/init.d/postgres7.4

/usr/local is not the right place for a database server, per Linux FSH.

 spec file(s) available on request. 

I'll be happy if you send me the spec.

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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] PGFoundry down?

2006-10-28 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 01:27 -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
 PGFoundry is responding with:
 PgFoundry Could Not Connect to Database:

Marc is already working on it.

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Re: [HACKERS] Multiple postmaster + RPM + locale issues

2006-10-20 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi Markus,

On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 15:19 +0200, Markus Schaber wrote:

 Did you look at how the debian guys handle this? 

No, but I believe what Peter wrote two days before was a solution of
Debian guys.

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Re: [HACKERS] Multiple postmaster + RPM + locale issues

2006-10-20 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi Peter,

On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 15:37 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
  Did you look at how the debian guys handle this?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -1 /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/p* 
 snip

Quick question: Could you please point me a way to change the names
of .mo files and make each PostgreSQL release see its own locale
directory?

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Re: [HACKERS] Multiple postmaster + RPM + locale issues

2006-10-20 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi Alvaro,

On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 10:53 -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
 
 The package files are here:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/postgresql-8.1
 
 you can find the patch Debian applies following a link below (the
 diff.gz), on which you see the method for doing this. 

Thanks. Let me finish it this weekend.

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Re: [HACKERS] Multiple postmaster + RPM + locale issues

2006-10-20 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 10:25 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 
 Egad.  What an ugly, unmaintainable crock. 

I want to second this. I would not make this in RPM spec file.

What about changing

localedir='${prefix}/share/locale'

line (in configure) to

localedir='${prefix}/share/locale/pgsql/$PGMAJORVERSION'

or so?

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[HACKERS] Multiple postmaster + RPM + locale issues

2006-10-18 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

I have almost finished working on multiple rpm + postmaster issue today.
The spec file and patches in pgsqlrpms cvs work almost as expected and
does some preliminary work about multiple postmaster installation issue
(we can build the rpms and they are installed correctly).

I have a question about locale files. AFAICS, our configure script has
hardcoded localedir value:

  # Note: share/locale is always the default, independent of $datadir
  localedir='${prefix}/share/locale'

However, I think we need to install locale files of each major releases
to different directory. I can patch the line above in spec file; however
I'm not sure where to install those locale files.

The question is:

- Is it a good idea to add a new --localedir parameter to configure
script so that the localedir will be configurable?

- If not, where should I install locale specific files? 

- ... or should I do something different?

Thanks.

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Re: [HACKERS] New job

2006-09-11 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hello,

On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 13:11 -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
 While I'm sitting here in New Jersey in a room with Bruce Momjian (aka
 Rock Star), I figured now would be a good time to announce my new
 employment. I'll be doing sales support/engineering from Austin. 

Congrats Jim.

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Re: [HACKERS] Open items for 8.2

2006-09-06 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hello,

On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 13:04 +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgopenitems
 
 This host seems to be offline. 

It is suffering from a DNS problem.

  What about using the wiki? 

Wiki has the same problem, too.

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[HACKERS] Status on Fedora Core Extras packaging

2006-08-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hello,

Yesterday night, I was approved (sponsored) for Fedora Core packaging
(please note that this is not something financial).

For the beginning, I officially submitted python-psycopg2 to FC6. More
are on the way; like pgpool, Slony-I, pgadmin3-adminpacks, phpPgAdmin,
postgresql_autodoc, pgfouine. Also they are in the queue for FC5. I'm
waiting for approval for them.

More will be in FC Extras. Please let me know that if you want to see
any PostgreSQL related software in the repository. I do have time to
package all related stuff.

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Re: [Pgsqlrpms-hackers] [HACKERS] Safer auto-initdb for RPM init

2006-08-29 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hello,

On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 19:16 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
 Well, in the case of RPMS built with the pgfoundry pgsqlrpms project 
 init script, it looks to me like it is already disabled: see 
 http://cvs.pgfoundry.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/pgsqlrpms/patches/8.2/postgresql.init?rev=1.2content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

This is a pre-pre-alpha; and may be reverted in stable release. I'm just
trying to find a better way for initdb troubles.

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Re: [HACKERS] New beginings

2006-08-15 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hello,

On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 21:09 -0700, Darcy Buskermolen wrote:
 It is with great enthuasim I announce that I have accepted an offer
 from Joshua D. Drake of Command Prompt Inc, to join his team.  As
 former Vice President of Software Development with Wavefire
 Technologies Corp, I endeavor to leverage over 10 years of technical
 expertise and 8 years of PostgreSQL background within my new team.
 Rest assured that I will continue my role within the Slony development
 group to bring additional features, robustness and usability to the
 project. 

It is really good to see you in Command Prompt. Welcome, and congrats.

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Re: [HACKERS] new job

2006-08-09 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hello Andrew,

On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 12:25 -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
 On August 1st I started work for Anchorage Capital LLC as a Senior 
 Software Engineer. 

Congratulations for your new job.

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RPM packaging (was :Re: [HACKERS] Three weeks left until feature freeze)

2006-07-13 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 15:33 -0400, Chris Browne wrote:
 If we have an interestingly large set of packages at pgFoundry that
 are that RPMable, then they *will* come. 

Personally I am interested in building all RPMable PostgreSQL related
projects. Currently I do packaging for PostgreSQL, pgadmin3, Slony-I,
PostGIS, libpqxx, dbi-link, plphp, postgresql_autodoc, psycopg. I know
that some projects at pgfoundry build their own RPM packages. If any of
the maintainers need help in RPM packaging, please let me know. I'm
pretty sure that our RPM packagers at pgsqlrpms project will help us,
too.

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Re: Anyone still care about Cygwin? (was Re: [HACKERS] [CORE] GPL

2006-06-26 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 08:28 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
 
 Devrim was working with another potential contributor though, dunno
 how that's going. 

Ok, I talked with them now. They need the following information:

- What type of hardware do we need? Is an Opteron enough? Memory? Disk?
- Do we need a private box, or is a VM enough?
- What is the average traffic of our web servers?

Bandwith is not cheap in Turkey, so they are inclined to put that server
somewhere outside Turkey. 

They are ready to proceed, they just want to learn the details.

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Re: [HACKERS] plperl's ppport.h out of date?

2006-05-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 08:29 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 ppport.h is throwing warnings when compiling on Fedora Core 5
 (with perl-5.8.8-4).  I gather from the comments in the head
 of that file that we ought to look for a newer version.

I've informed Andrew about this, he sent me a patch a few days before,
but I could not have time to test it.

Let me test it soon.
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Re: [HACKERS] anoncvs still slow

2006-05-28 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 21:25 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:

 For bittorrent, I propose we take it out. We've suggested it before, I
 don't recall receiving any real requests to keep it, and IMHO it's way
 much more pain than it's worth. Therefor, unless someone objects, I'll
 pull the bittorrent links from the website in a couple of days, and
 then we can just remove it from the server. 

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[HACKERS] Time for new releases?

2006-04-15 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

It's been quite a long time since the latest dot releases. Do you think
it is time for the new releases? There are several bugfixes since then.

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Re: [HACKERS] RH9 postgresql 8.0.7 rpm

2006-04-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi Gaetano,

On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 18:31 +0200, Gaetano Mendola wrote:
 I'm trying to build the rpms for RH9,
 I downloaded the srpm for RH9 but I'm stuck on these errors:
 
 Attempt a:
 
 # rpmbuild --rebuild postgresql-8.0.7-1PGDG.src.rpm
 Installing postgresql-8.0.7-1PGDG.src.rpm
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 tcl-devel is needed by postgresql-8.0.7-1PGDG
 
 why tcl-devel on rh9 version? tcl-devel doesn't exist on rh9 )

We use only one spec file for all platforms. If you are using Red Hat 9,
you should consider using the macros that are enabled for RH9 (build89
and/or build9 in the spec file).

 Attempt b:
 # rpmbuild --nodeps --rebuild postgresql-8.0.7-1PGDG.src.rpm
 
 checking krb5.h presence... no
 checking for krb5.h... no
 configure: error: header file krb5.h is required for Kerberos 5
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.73067 (%build)

I think rebuilding with --define 'buildrhel3 1' will work here.
 ok no kerberos now:
 
 Attempt c:
 # rpmbuild --nodeps  --rebuild --define 'kerberos 0' 
 postgresql-8.0.7-1PGDG.src.rpm
 .
 checking for zlib.h... yes
 checking openssl/ssl.h usability... no
 checking openssl/ssl.h presence... no
 checking for openssl/ssl.h... no
 configure: error: header file openssl/ssl.h is required for OpenSSL
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.3109 (%build)
 
 actually I have that file:
 
 # locate openssl/ssl.h
 /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h

I have no idea about this and I can't remember right now how I was
building RH9 RPMs ...

If you provide me a RH9 box, I can help you.

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Re: [HACKERS] I have changed employers

2006-04-05 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:06 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 FYI, I have left SRA and am now working for EnterpriseDB:

Congratulations Bruce!

It is good to see many community members working in PostgreSQL-related
companies.

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Re: [HACKERS] Some employment changes ...

2006-03-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi Josh,

On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 12:01 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
 As of Monday I'm at Sun Microsystems.

Congrats!

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Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Proposals --

2006-03-19 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 11:34 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
 Well, aside from anything else, we seem likely to have you, Devrim,
 Magnus and maybe even Robert Treat there (Robert?).  Which would mean
 a good time for a meeting of the Web Team, yes?

It seems that I'll be there, and yes, a PostgreSQL.org web development
session will be cool.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_hba.conf alternative

2006-02-08 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 14:34 +0200, Q Beukes wrote:

 I have the problem where the system administrators at our company
 obviously have access to the whole filesystem, and our database records
 needs to be hidden even from them.

As they have access to whole filesystem, they can access anything, even
if you enable password auth (they'd switch to trust auth and reload
postmaster).

They can also copy the data dir to another server and search the 

You should either trust your sysadms, or work with people who you trust.

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Re: [HACKERS] Upcoming re-releases

2006-02-08 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 11:28 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:

 I'd really like to see the multiple DB connections with different
 Kerberos credentials go in to 8.1.3.  It solved the problem we were
 having authenticating to PostgreSQL using Kerberos from Apache.  We were
 also able to get phppgadmin to use Kerberos authentication with this
 patch (which is very nice).  That patch also went into the 8.1.2-2
 release of the Debian packages 

[OT]
So Debian has a patch that is not in 8.1.2? I can't believe that they
are doing that -- personally I'm against to add any patch into binaries
that is not in the core.
[/OT]

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[HACKERS] About PgPool Global Development Group

2006-02-04 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

PgPool team is about to form PgPool Global Development Group
whose concept is pretty similar to PostgreSQL Global Development
Group. i.e. a virtual entity on the Internet. PgPool is currently being
developed by Tatsuo Ishii. We want to switch to  PgPool Global
Development Group which will lower the barrier for hackers who wants to
join this project.
 
As of release 3.0.0, PgPool will be copyrighted to PgPool Global
Development Group.

Please join to pgpool-hackers list:
http://pgfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/pgpool-hackers
 
We are looking forward for more people involved in this project.

Regards,
PgPool Global Development Group
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Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:41 -0800, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:

 How will you do an orderly upgrade from one revision to the next,
 including all the dependencies?

We are still in planning phase, any ideas of how to do that is welcome.

 How will you distribute security updates?

We are still in planning phase, any ideas of how to do that is welcome.

 I predict this form of installation will cause a great many support
 headaches as users report problems which are caused by oddball
 compilers, strange CFLAGS, unreleased or strangely patched versions of
 shared libraries and headers, and so forth.

I can't see a problem in here. We already have platform test results in
pgbuildfarm and we have the knowledbase about the configure options,
flags etc. in that platforms.

 Obviously anybody is welcome and able to just write whatever software
 they feel is needed, but go ahead and count me among the skeptics.

The world is not turning around us, and please don't be skeptic on a
piece of software that you won't use but some people will.

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Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:35 -0800, Christopher Browne wrote:
  We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me
  an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you
  need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase,
  if you join us earlier, we will be able to share more ideas. 
 
 You'd better define the purpose pretty clearly, as I don't see any
 purpose that's of value, yet.

I agree with Joshua's points here. Think of people who do not want an
installation via command line.

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Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 09:15 +, Dave Page wrote:

  As was said, a gui to produce postgresql.conf files (off host)
  can be of value. 
 
 pgAdmin?

Installer should produce a postgresql.conf, based on some selections
via the interface. Then we will use pgAdmin to edit, improve, etc.
postgresql.conf.

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Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 08:34 +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
  
  http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/
  
  We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me
  an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you
  need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase,
  if you join us earlier, we will be able to share more ideas. 
 
 Might be fun of course. But on unix you usually have some kind
 of package system anyway - how is the installer supposed to
 play nicely with them?

Yes,

We will try to stick the file locations of those package managers. We
already have that KB.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 08:36 +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote:

 Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or
 put everything in /usr/local?
  
  
  We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;)
  
 RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;)

I used RPM as an alias to package managers :)

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Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 22:45 -0500, Vivek Khera wrote:
  However none of them are PostgreSQL Installers,  none of them has the
  ability to customize the packages and none of them has the ability to
  install the community packages, etc. :)
 
 You need to take a sniff over at the FreeBSD ports.  Lets you build  
 customized install of Pg quite easily, without need for a gui, which  
 none of my big servers have.

There are some people who do use GUI on their servers and do not know
how to compile a software or do not want to build a software via command
line.

This is called marketing. :)

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:27 -0500, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
 I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in
 Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could
 build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as
 IzPack).  Just my 2 cents :) 

Bundling Java is a pain, so we'd better stay away from that.

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[HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix systems

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI
installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some
people.

Our Windows Installer is very attractive, for example. 

Now, I and Burcu Guzel, who is a Senior Programmer, decided to launch a
new project: pgnixinstaller : 

http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/

We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me
an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you
need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase,
if you join us earlier, we will be able to share more ideas. 

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote:

  We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me
  an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you
  need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase,
  if you join us earlier, we will be able to share more ideas. 
 
 What value does this bring to systems that have a good package system
 and up-to-date repositories?  I can install Postgres today on Ubuntu
 using a GUI tool, and install another GUI tool to configure and
 adminsiter it.

You can install, but what if you need different configure options than
the package provides? This means a rebuild of the package. Instead, we
will build and install that package via the installer.

OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI
RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a
lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the
prebuilt binaries from PostgreSQL FTP site (and possible other sites) 

 For systems like Solaris I can see it maybe being a win.

Agreed.

 Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or
 put everything in /usr/local?

We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;)

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:27 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:

 OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI
 RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a
 lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the
 prebuilt binaries from PostgreSQL FTP site (and possible other sites) 

 There's yumex ... http://fedoranews.org/tchung/yumex/

Thanks for the info. I haven't heard about it before...

However none of them are PostgreSQL Installers,  none of them has the
ability to customize the packages and none of them has the ability to
install the community packages, etc. :)

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:31 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote:
 
 Certainly you can install pre-built binaries without a compiler, and
 let the user choose database location, autovacuum settings and stuff
 like that.

That's another good point. We can adjust many settings before
installing. 

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:34 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
  OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI
  RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a
  lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the
  prebuilt binaries from PostgreSQL FTP site (and possible other sites)
 
 And pull down/build/install the various extensions on pgFoundry? :)

Another good idea. Thanks Marc.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:31 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote:
  You can install, but what if you need different configure options than
  the package provides? This means a rebuild of the package. Instead, we
  will build and install that package via the installer.
 
 That's actually a pretty cool idea--compile and generate debs/rpms
 that reflect the user's choices, then install them.  But the
 dependency on a compiler adds a twist of complexity--sorry, you need
 to install the following system packages (gcc, etc) before you can
 install Postgres as you've configured it.  Not horrible, but perhaps
 intimidating for the GUI crowd?  :)  Is gcc in the bog-standard
 default install on FC these days?

We can pre-check the prerequisites for building the package and raise an
error before beginning to build the package. It is not that hard. For
example, RPMs have BuildRequires tags and we can compare those with the
packages installed in the system.

BTW, gcc is not installed on by default AFAIR.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 22:04 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 BTW, gcc is not installed on by default AFAIR.
 
 Wow, how do you update the kernel each week? :)
 
 More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets 
 done after installing is to customize the kernel to get rid of all the 
 'cruft' part of the generic kernel, I take it that this isn't something 
 that ppl do with Linux?

On systems that have a packaging system, you are supposed to download
and install vendor kernels. There is no need to build the kernel.
However, if you want to build, then you need to install development
environment.

On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat
does not provide support if I do so :)

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[HACKERS] Adding a --quiet option to initdb

2006-01-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

Attached is a patch which adds --quiet and --q option to initdb. I
personally needed this option while writing a document and taking
screenshot :) It only shows the error and warning messages, as well as
the last lines.

I've updated the docs. Regression tests pass.

This is my first patch to PostgreSQL source, so please guide me if I
have done something wrong.

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Index: doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml
===
RCS file: /projects/cvsroot/pgsql/doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.35
diff -c -r1.35 initdb.sgml
*** doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml	21 Jun 2005 04:02:31 -	1.35
--- doc/src/sgml/ref/initdb.sgml	25 Jan 2006 13:47:19 -
***
*** 235,240 
--- 235,252 
/listitem
   /varlistentry
  
+ variablelist
+  varlistentry
+   termoption--q/option/term
+   termoption--quiet/option/term
+   listitem
+para
+ 	Supresses the messages generated by commandinitdb/command. Only warning
+ 	and error messages are displayed.
+/para
+   /listitem
+  /varlistentry
+ 
   varlistentry
termoption-L replaceable class=parameterdirectory/replaceable/option/term
listitem
Index: src/bin/initdb/initdb.c
===
RCS file: /projects/cvsroot/pgsql/src/bin/initdb/initdb.c,v
retrieving revision 1.106
diff -c -r1.106 initdb.c
*** src/bin/initdb/initdb.c	5 Jan 2006 10:07:46 -	1.106
--- src/bin/initdb/initdb.c	25 Jan 2006 13:47:36 -
***
*** 95,100 
--- 95,101 
  static bool debug = false;
  static bool noclean = false;
  static bool show_setting = false;
+ static bool quiet;
  
  
  /* internal vars */
***
*** 1120,1128 
  		test_max_fsm,
  		ok_buffers = 0;
  	  
! 
! 	printf(_(selecting default max_connections ... ));
! 	fflush(stdout);
  
  	for (i = 0; i  connslen; i++)
  	{
--- 1121,1131 
  		test_max_fsm,
  		ok_buffers = 0;
  	  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		printf(_(selecting default max_connections ... ));
! 		fflush(stdout);
! 	}
  
  	for (i = 0; i  connslen; i++)
  	{
***
*** 1150,1159 
  		i = connslen - 1;
  	n_connections = trial_conns[i];
  
! 	printf(%d\n, n_connections);
  
! 	printf(_(selecting default shared_buffers/max_fsm_pages ... ));
! 	fflush(stdout);
  
  	for (i = 0; i  bufslen; i++)
  	{
--- 1153,1168 
  		i = connslen - 1;
  	n_connections = trial_conns[i];
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		printf(%d\n, n_connections);
! 	}
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		printf(_(selecting default shared_buffers/max_fsm_pages ... ));
! 		fflush(stdout);
! 	}
  
  	for (i = 0; i  bufslen; i++)
  	{
***
*** 1181,1187 
  	n_buffers = test_buffs;
  	n_fsm_pages = FSM_FOR_BUFS(n_buffers);
  
! 	printf(%d/%d\n, n_buffers, n_fsm_pages);
  }
  
  /*
--- 1190,1199 
  	n_buffers = test_buffs;
  	n_fsm_pages = FSM_FOR_BUFS(n_buffers);
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		printf(%d/%d\n, n_buffers, n_fsm_pages);
! 	}
  }
  
  /*
***
*** 1194,1202 
  	char		repltok[100];
  	char		path[MAXPGPATH];
  
! 	fputs(_(creating configuration files ... ), stdout);
! 	fflush(stdout);
! 
  	/* postgresql.conf */
  
  	conflines = readfile(conf_file);
--- 1206,1216 
  	char		repltok[100];
  	char		path[MAXPGPATH];
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		fputs(_(creating configuration files ... ), stdout);
! 		fflush(stdout);
! 	}
  	/* postgresql.conf */
  
  	conflines = readfile(conf_file);
***
*** 1350,1359 
  	char	  **bki_lines;
  	char		headerline[MAXPGPATH];
  
! 	printf(_(creating template1 database in %s/base/1 ... ), pg_data);
! 	fflush(stdout);
  
! 	if (debug)
  		talkargs = -d 5;
  
  	bki_lines = readfile(bki_file);
--- 1364,1376 
  	char	  **bki_lines;
  	char		headerline[MAXPGPATH];
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		printf(_(creating template1 database in %s/base/1 ... ), pg_data);
! 		fflush(stdout);
! 	}
  
! 		if (debug)
  		talkargs = -d 5;
  
  	bki_lines = readfile(bki_file);
***
*** 1444,1451 
  		NULL
  	};
  
! 	fputs(_(initializing pg_authid ... ), stdout);
! 	fflush(stdout);
  
  	snprintf(cmd, sizeof(cmd),
  			 \%s\ %s template1 %s,
--- 1461,1471 
  		NULL
  	};
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		fputs(_(initializing pg_authid ... ), stdout);
! 		fflush(stdout);
! 	}
  
  	snprintf(cmd, sizeof(cmd),
  			 \%s\ %s template1 %s,
***
*** 1572,1579 
  		NULL
  	};
  
! 	fputs(_(enabling unlimited row size for system tables ... ), stdout);
! 	fflush(stdout);
  
  	snprintf(cmd, sizeof(cmd),
  			 \%s\ %s template1 %s,
--- 1592,1602 
  		NULL
  	};
  
! 	if (!quiet)
! 	{
! 		fputs(_(enabling unlimited row size 

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Adding a --quiet option to initdb

2006-01-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi Andrew,

On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 09:28 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
 What's wrong with just sending stdout to /dev/null? If that eats error
 messages too then we should probably fix initdb to send those to
 stderr.

We have the same options with reindexdb, for example. I think a command
line option 

 But if we are going to do this, then I also noticed a couple of
 things:
 
 . you should explicitly initialize the quiet variable, in keeping with
 the style of the others nearby.

Oh, I've missed it. Patch updated.

 . the idiom
 
if (! quiet) 
{
   fputs(_(some message),stdout);
   fflush(stdout);
}
 
 should not be endlessly repeated. Make it a macro or a function.

I'm looking at it now.

Thanks for your comments. I'll provide a new patch soon, which will also
include Alvaro's suggestion about surpression both header and footer 
(--make-initdb-really-quiet-mode :) )

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Adding a --quiet option to initdb

2006-01-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:22 +0200, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
 On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 09:28 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
  What's wrong with just sending stdout to /dev/null? If that eats
 error
  messages too then we should probably fix initdb to send those to
  stderr.
 
 We have the same options with reindexdb, for example. I think a
 command
 line option 

(Opps...) We have the same options with reindexdb, for example. I think
a command line options is better and required.

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Re: [HACKERS] Adding a --quiet option to initdb

2006-01-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 11:28 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
 Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Attached is a patch which adds --quiet and --q option to initdb.
 
 Why is this a good idea?

I was playing with 8.2 RPM init script and thought that instead of
directing the output to /dev/null, it would be better to use a command
line option for that. Also, we are designing a new installer project and
--quiet might help us.

I would rise this idea in -hackers before providing a patch, but since
this is my first patch, I thought it would be a good exercise for me.

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Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Adding a --quiet option to initdb

2006-01-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 16:32 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

  I think a command line options is better and required.
 
 I think we need more proof of that than a use case involving taking 
 screen shots.

I've just explained my points as a reply to Tom's mail.

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[HACKERS] Pushing init scripts into contrib/

2005-12-26 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

PostgreSQL source tree had init scripts in contrib/ years before:

http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/contrib/linux/?hideattic=0#dirlist

I suggest to push the init scripts again into contrib/, for people who 
don'u use packaged versions and need init scripts.


We could supply different scripts for different platforms, like the init 
scripts of our RPMs, init scripts of Debian, etc.


Any objections?

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Re: [HACKERS] Pushing init scripts into contrib/

2005-12-26 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Tom Lane wrote:


Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

PostgreSQL source tree had init scripts in contrib/ years before:
http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/contrib/linux/?hideattic=0#dirlist


Aren't those dead versions of what's now in contrib/start-scripts/ ?


Oh... I haven't seen start-scripts :(

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[HACKERS] About my new work at Command Prompt Inc.

2005-12-07 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

I'd like to inform the people who does not read Planet PostgreSQL

Command Prompt Inc.has just hired me for my community work I have been
doing so far, like PostgreSQL RPM stuff and other PostgreSQL related
RPMs, such as Slony-I, pgpool, PostGIS, etc) and website things. That
means I'll spend more time on these. 

Thanks to Joshua. I'm very happy to be a member of CMD. Let's see what
else I can do for CMD.

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Re: [HACKERS] MS SQL Server compatibility functions

2005-11-23 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Fredrik Olsson wrote:

snip
I guess I am not the only one moving from MS SQL Server, so is there interest 
for others to use my work, as a contrib perhaps. And how should I continue 
from here in that case?


I'd start a new project at pgfoundry and then would begin talking about a 
contrib module.


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Re: [HACKERS] 8.1 Release Candidate 1 Bundled ...

2005-11-01 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi Lamar,

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Lamar Owen wrote:


So thinking that:



* Beta and RC RPMs are used only by testers
* We use the beta and RC steps to build the new RPM sets, so that means
that actually they are not production quality looking from the RPM
perspective.


By way of clarification, as I am the one who wrote that portion of the
spec file, an 'RPM prerelease' and a 'beta' weren't intended to be the
same thing; the line in the spec referenced was for my own use to remind
me that my own internal testing packages (with a release number 0.x)
weren't intended for public consumption.  Devrim, you can remove that
section of the spec file at any time at this point, because you are using
CVS for the purpose that I was using 'prerelease' RPMs.


Ok, I've removed that part from the spec files.


Historically, beta and release candidate RPM's were put on the main ftp
site but flagged as beta quality.  I certainly appreciate your dilligence
in following those instructions I wrote long ago, but, thanks to your
smoother release process (in no small part due to the use of CVS) those
instructions are obsolete.  Many thanks for being that dilligent!


:) Ok, I will be putting the beta and RC RPMs to FTP site from now on.

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Re: [HACKERS] 8.1 Release Candidate 1 Bundled ...

2005-10-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


Take a look through it, will announce this evening ...


Could you please include RPMs in your announcement? They *will* be here:

http://developer.postgresql.org/~devrim/rpms/8.1/rc1

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Re: [HACKERS] 8.1 Release Candidate 1 Bundled ...

2005-10-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Magnus Hagander wrote:


http://developer.postgresql.org/~devrim/rpms/8.1/rc1


The developer.postgresql.org machine really isn't geared to handle
downloads.. Any reason you can't just stick it on the standard ftp sites
and have it mirrored along with everything else?


This is taken from our spec:
# Pre-release RPM's should not be put up on the public ftp.postgresql.org server
# -- only test releases or full releases should be.

So thinking that:

* Beta and RC RPMs are used only by testers
* We use the beta and RC steps to build the new RPM sets, so that means 
that actually they are not production quality looking from the RPM 
perspective.


That's why I put them to developer site.

Another reason was that gunduz.org was unavailable for 2 months (and 
putting the PGDG RPMs to my site does not sound good).


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[HACKERS] Update for supported platforms list

2005-10-29 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

All regression tests passed on :

* SUSE LINUX 10.0 (i586) OSS
* Fedora Core release 4
* Red Hat Linux release 9
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 3 (Taroon Update 6)

Both are x86.

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Re: [HACKERS] 8.04 and RedHat/CentOS init script issue

2005-10-19 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

Hi,

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Tony Caduto wrote:

I installed 8.04 via RPM on Centos 4.2 which is the same as RedHat 4.2 and 
while booting the init script reports that the daemon [FAILED], but after I 
logon it shows the postmaster running and I am able to connect from any 
client remotely.


I made not modifcations to the script and there is nothing out of the 
ordinary in the log.


Hmm. In 8.0.4 RPM init scripts, we were using a 1 second of sleep time 
(see sleep 1 line in the init script). On some cases where the system is 
slow, you are prompted about the startup failure; however this is not the 
real case.


In 8.1 RPMs, the sleep time was increased to 2 seconds; which we believe 
that won't have the problem you've reported:


http://cvs.pgfoundry.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/pgsqlrpms/patches/8.1/postgresql.init?rev=1.2content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

So please increase this sleep time and give another try.

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Re: [HACKERS] Slony RPM issue

2005-10-06 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005, Philip Yarra wrote:


On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:32 am, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:

Thanks for the report. It will fixed in CVS and all the RPM sets later
today. Always feel free to send me a patch if you want, I can apply your
patch, too.


OK, you got my previous email about why pgsql-libs was dependent on
compat-libs RPM?


See:
http://people.planetpostgresql.org/devrim/index.php?/archives/15-New-PostgreSQL-point-releases.html

New 8.0.4 RPMs will solve that problem.

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Re: [HACKERS] Slony RPM issue

2005-10-05 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, Philip Yarra wrote:


Hi Devrim, I ran into another RPM issue, this time with Slony.


:-)


I grabbed the RPM from
http://developer.postgresql.org/~devrim/slony/1.1.0/rpms/PG8.0.3/

Trying to run slon_start, I got errors such as:
$ slon_start --config /etc/slon_tools.conf 2
Invoke slon for node 2 - @@@/slon -s 1000 -d2 -g 80 replication 'host=dev2
dbname=booktown user=postgres port=5432' 21

/var/log/slony/slony1/node2/booktown-2005-10-05_16:23:53.log 

sh: line 1: @@@/slon: No such file or directory
Slon failed to start for cluster replication, node node2

This turned out to be because /usr/lib/pgsql/slon-tools.pm contained several
un-expanded @@PGBINDIR@@ prefixes - once I replaced them with /usr/bin it all
ran just fine.


Hrrm.

It seems that I've installed wrong file in the spec :( However slon-tools 
file is not updated by the Makefile, so I'll try to fix that, too.


Thanks for the report. It will fixed in CVS and all the RPM sets later 
today. Always feel free to send me a patch if you want, I can apply your 
patch, too.


BTW, could you please report the possible Slony problems to 
slony1-general@gborg.postgresql.org later?


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Re: [HACKERS] RPMs for RedHat ES3.0

2005-10-03 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Philip Yarra wrote:


Devrim, I had some problems installing on RedHat ES3.0 with the RPMs. This
issue turned out to be that I needed the compat libs to provide the old libs
before I could install the new libs.

I found a link to
http://developer.PostgreSQL.org/~devrim/compat-postgresql-libs-3-3PGDG.i686.rpm
in an archived post from -hackers. It wasn't all that obvious what was
required though, so is it possible that this RPM could actually be put with
the downloads for the main RPMs? I'm not sure anyone's installation would
succeed without that RPM on RedHat ES3.0. Please let me know if I'm missing
something.


We haven't discussed it before, but I think we can't put the RPM among 
PGDG RPMs. The main reason is that this is not a piece of software that's 
included within that release of PostgreSQL. Also, this compat RPM is not 
needed if you don't have a software that needs that RPM.



As an aside: is it possible to actually to just include the contents of
compat-libs in postgresql-libs, since they actually seem to be required? It'd
save me some hassles for future installations. Probably other folks too.


As I wrote above, it does not seem possible.

Also remember that this will be probably 'solved' in RHEL 5 (and FC 5), so 
merging compat with main libs package is not a good idea.


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Re: [HACKERS] State of support for back PG branches

2005-09-26 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Tom Lane wrote:

snipped

This brings up the question of whether we should officially abandon
support for 7.2 and/or later branches.  I don't think anyone is planning
on supporting old branches forever, but when do we stop?

I have a corporate need to keep supporting 7.3, at least to the extent
of critical bug fixes, because Red Hat is still on the hook to support
that version in RHEL3 for awhile longer.  I have no such interest in
7.2 (which is one reason I'm not excited about doing the extra work to
back-patch the VACUUM/ctid fix).  I can definitely see that the
community might not want to expend more effort on 7.3, though.  I have
no idea what the needs of other distributions might be.


Doesn't Red Hat support RHEL 2.1, and so that PostgreSQL 7.1?

Anyway, IMHO PGDG should stop supporting 7.2 when 8.1 will be officially 
released. But at this point, (recalling the vacuum bug) it may now be 
time to abandon supporting 7.2.


Also, as the RPM maintainer of PGDG, it is hard to support 7.2 for us, 
too. Compiling 7.2 on newer platforms becomes a pain...


There are some 7.3 users around (I remember some on Slony lists, etc), 
therefore we should keep supporting it. But maybe we can announce that 
7.3 will become unsupported after XXX time so that people will know 
before we abandon the support. The best time for not supporting 7.3 might 
be when 8.2 will be released. However, I believe that 7.4 should live 
longer, since that's the last of the 7.X branch.


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Re: [HACKERS] New dot releases

2005-09-19 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ


Hi,

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Michael Fuhr wrote:


On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:28:39AM -0600, Michael Fuhr wrote:

FWIW, I have a Solaris 9/sparc box with gcc 3.4.2 (same setup as
gerbil) and have no problems with REL7_2_STABLE through HEAD.  I'll
test REL8_0_STABLE with gerbil's configure options when I get a
chance.


I just built REL8_0_STABLE with the following configure options
(same as gerbil):

./configure --enable-cassert --enable-debug --enable-nls \
   --enable-integer-datetimes --with-perl --with-python \
   --with-openssl --with-pgport=5682

gmake check returned the following:

==
All 96 tests passed.
==


So no need to hold the new dot releases? :)

I want to work on new RPM sets and don't want to apply countless 
patches... :)


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[HACKERS] New dot releases

2005-09-16 Thread Devrim Gunduz


Hi,

After / before 8.1 Beta 2, are there any plans to release new dot releases 
for the back branches?


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Re: [HACKERS] problems installing pgsql

2005-08-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi,

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Ricardo Gamero wrote:


Hello everybody!
I'm so sorry to post this simple question but I don't know what to do, the
thing is I need to install postgresql 8.0.3 in red hat 9 but when I try to
do it this errors appear:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -ivh postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG.i686.rpm
warning: postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG.i686.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY,
key ID 748f7d0e
error: Failed dependencies:
libcrypto.so.4 is needed by postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG
libpq.so.4 is needed by postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG
libssl.so.4 is needed by postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG


First of all, please install this RPM to solve these 3 dependencies:

http://developer.postgresql.org/~devrim/rpms/compat/compat-postgresql-libs-3-3PGDG.i686.rpm


postgresql = 8.0.3 is needed by postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG


Yes, before installing -server rpm, you have to install main package.



postgresql  7.4 conflicts with postgresql-server-8.0.3-1PGDG


Please follow the usual dump/reload process before upgrading PostgreSQL. 
Both 7.4 and 8.0 cannot stand on the same server.


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[HACKERS] New dot releases?

2005-07-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi,

There are many commits to back branches and 8.0 branch since the last dot 
releases were announced.


Any plans for new releases before 8.1beta1?

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[HACKERS] 7.4.8 compilation failure on Fedora Core 4

2005-06-17 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi,

RPM building for Fedora Core 4 and PostgreSQL 7.4.8 failed with the error 
below:


==
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.4.8/src/pl/tcl'
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.4.8/src/pl/plper l'
gcc -O2 -g -pipe -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -m32 -march=i686 
- -mtune=pe ntium4 -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -I/usr/include/et 
- -fno-strict-aliasing -Wmis sing-declarations, 
- -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE  -fpic -I. 
- -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE -I../../../src/in 
clude -D_GNU_SOURCE  -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/et  -c -o plperl.o 
plperl.c

cc1: error: unrecognized command line option -Wmissing-declarations,
make[3]: *** [plperl.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.4.8/src/pl/plperl '

make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.4.8/src/pl'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.4.8/src'
make: *** [all] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.91807 (%build)
==

Any comments on that?
# gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.0.0 20050519 (Red Hat 4.0.0-8)

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[HACKERS] Usernames with hyphens

2005-06-13 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi,

AFAIK, PostgreSQL does not allow hyphens in usernames and databases, 
right?


template1=# SELECT version();
   version
- 
--
 PostgreSQL 8.0.3 on i686-redhat-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC gcc (GCC) 
3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-42)

(1 row)

template1=# CREATE DATABASE hyphen-test;
ERROR:  syntax error at or near - at character 22
LINE 1: CREATE DATABASE hyphen-test;
 ^
This is the same for users;

template1=# CREATE USER hyphen-test;
ERROR:  syntax error at or near - at character 18
LINE 1: CREATE USER hyphen-test;
 ^
However, createuser allows us to create users that include a hyphen:

# createuser hyphen-test -U postgres
Shall the new user be allowed to create databases? (y/n) n
Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) n
Password:
CREATE USER

but it is not allowed in CREATE DATABASE syntax:

template1=# CREATE DATABASE hyphen_test with owner hyphen-test;
ERROR:  syntax error at or near - at character 46
LINE 1: CREATE DATABASE hyphen_test with owner hyphen-test;


template1=# SELECT * from pg_shadow WHERE usename='hyphen-test';
   usename   | usesysid | usecreatedb | usesuper | usecatupd | passwd | 
valuntil | useconfig

- 
-+--+-+--+---++--+---
 hyphen-test |  103 | f   | f| f || 
|

(1 row)

Is it a bug in createuser or am I missing a point? Same applies to 
createdb:


# createdb hyphen-test -U postgres
Password:
CREATE DATABASE

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Re: [HACKERS] Usernames with hyphens

2005-06-13 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi,

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Weilguni Mario wrote:


In fakt, it allows users with hyphens, but you have to use quotes:
CREATE USER foo-bar;
DROP USER foo-bar;


Yeah quotes. I should have remembered it. Thanks Weilgunu, Dave and 
Michael.


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Re: [HACKERS] 8.0.x RPM issues

2005-05-24 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ

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Hi Gaetano,

On Tue, 24 May 2005, Dave Cramer wrote:


You can find it here if you need it quickly
http://postgresql.gunduz.org/rpms/compat-postgresql-libs-3-1PGDG.i686.rpm


Yeah, that package was tested on 5 platforms. Also Dave Cramer confirmed 
that it works.


As soon as we are sure about the package naming, we'll upload it to main 
FTP repository.


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Re: [HACKERS] 8.02 rpm error

2005-05-20 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,

-- Original Message ---
snip 

 Now, the problem with 8.0.2/8.0.3 is that we forgot to bump the 
 soname before shipping 8.0, so we shipped a bogus libpq.so.3 which 
 is really libpq.so.4, with a wrong soname.  How to fix?  Maybe we 
 should provide a libpq3 package with the libraries coming from the 
 REL_7_4_STABLE cvs branch.

I *was* working on a compatibility RPM this week. However, I'm now on a Linux
and Open Source Festival in Turkey and will be able to release the first
compat RPM next week.

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Re: [HACKERS] 7.3.10 working

2005-05-11 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,
On Wed, 11 May 2005, Robert Treat wrote:
has anyone successfully built 7.3.10?  I get the following when running
make check on a slackware...
Except geometry, make check runs fine on RHEL ES 4.
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[HACKERS] Will new release require an initdb?

2005-05-08 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
The question is in the subject line: Will the new dot releases require an 
initdb, since they will play with system catalogs?

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump issue : Cannot drop a non-existent(?) trigger

2005-03-27 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
Hmph.  Those should be 'i' references to the foreign key constraint,
not 'a' references to the relations.  I suspect this database was
carried forward from an ancient (pre-7.3) dump that defined the triggers
by CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER instead of ALTER ADD FOREIGN KEY.
I haven't coded the application but AFAIKit was developed using 7.4 and
7.5(CVS); and we installed database on 8.0.1... This is a new app.
Ok, sorry for the wrong info. I learned that they had begun coding the app 
on 7.2, then moved to 7.3-7.4-8.0... You are right.

Have you ever run contrib/adddepend to update the definitions to be
proper constraints?
Ok, running adddepend solved our problem (in fact it produced some erros 
related to perl but we ran the queries inside psql and fixed the problem). 
Now we can run pg_dump.

Thanks all.
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump issue : Cannot drop a non-existent(?) trigger

2005-03-26 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Tom Lane wrote:
Does \d pg_trigger show that the tgargs column is of type bytea?

Umm no:

tgnargs| smallint   | not null
tgargs, not tgnargs.
Ooops, sorry. Ok, tgargs is of type bytea.
Also, get the OID for this pg_trigger row and see if it shows up in
objid or refobjid of any rows of pg_depend

Yes it is there

prod=# SELECT * from pg_depend WHERE objid =39053;
- -[ RECORD 1 ]--
classid | 16412
objid   | 39053
objsubid| 0
refclassid  | 1259
refobjid| 37564
refobjsubid | 0
deptype | a
- -[ RECORD 2 ]--
classid | 16412
objid   | 39053
objsubid| 0
refclassid  | 1259
refobjid| 37577
refobjsubid | 0
deptype | a
Hmph.  Those should be 'i' references to the foreign key constraint,
not 'a' references to the relations.  I suspect this database was
carried forward from an ancient (pre-7.3) dump that defined the triggers
by CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER instead of ALTER ADD FOREIGN KEY.
I haven't coded the application but AFAIKit was developed using 7.4 and 
7.5(CVS); and we installed database on 8.0.1... This is a new app.

As a reminder, we ran pg_dump successfully before. After then we did 
nothing on schemas, we didn't upgrade db server, etc.

Have you ever run contrib/adddepend to update the definitions to be
proper constraints?
Now I did, but the found constraints are not related to our problem... :(
I'll try to drop trigger on Monday night and see what will happen. We have 
no up2date backup, except WAL logs... :(

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[HACKERS] pg_dump issue : Cannot drop a non-existent(?) trigger

2005-03-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
I've Google'd for the situation below and could not find any solution.
We are using PostgreSQL 8.0.1, installed using PGDG RPMs on RHEL ES 3.0:
===
prod=# SELECT version();
   version
- --
 PostgreSQL 8.0.1 on i686-redhat-linux-gnu, compiled by GCC gcc (GCC) 
3.2.3 20030502 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.3-42)
===

We wanted to take a full backup, so ran pg_dump,but got an error:
===
$ pg_dump prod -U postgres  all.pgdump
pg_dump: invalid argument string (firma_moduller_firma_fkey1) for trigger 
RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053 on table t_firma_moduller
===

Looking at the details, we saw the trigger there:
===
prod=# \d t_firma_moduller
  Table 
public.t_firma_moduller
  Column  |Type | 
Modifiers
- --+-+--
 firma_no | character varying(10)   | not null
 modul_adi| character varying(20)   | not null
 last_update_date | timestamp without time zone |
 last_update_user | character varying(45)   |
 kod  | integer | not null default 
fn_get_seq_value('t_firma_moduller'::character varying)
Indexes:
t_firma_moduller_pkey PRIMARY KEY, btree (firma_no, modul_adi)
t_firma_moduller_kodu_ukey UNIQUE, btree (kod)
Triggers:
RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053 AFTER INSERT OR UPDATE ON 
t_firma_moduller FROM t_firmalar NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE FOR 
EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE 
RI_FKey_check_ins('firma_moduller_firma_fkey1', 't_firma_moduller', 
't_firmalar', 'UNSPECIFIED', 'firma_no', 'no')
Tablespace: data_ts
===

However, pgadmin3 can't see that. That is more possible since we can't 
drop them:

prod=# DROP TRIGGER RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053 ON t_firma_moduller;
ERROR:  trigger ri_constrainttrigger_39053 for table t_firma_moduller 
does not exist

Is this a bug or something? There should not be a trigger there.
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump issue : Cannot drop a non-existent(?) trigger

2005-03-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Stephan Szabo wrote:
===
prod=# \d t_firma_moduller
   Table
public.t_firma_moduller
   Column  |Type |
Modifiers
- 
--+-+--
  firma_no | character varying(10)   | not null
  modul_adi| character varying(20)   | not null
  last_update_date | timestamp without time zone |
  last_update_user | character varying(45)   |
  kod  | integer | not null default
fn_get_seq_value('t_firma_moduller'::character varying)
Indexes:
 t_firma_moduller_pkey PRIMARY KEY, btree (firma_no, modul_adi)
 t_firma_moduller_kodu_ukey UNIQUE, btree (kod)
Triggers:
 RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053 AFTER INSERT OR UPDATE ON
t_firma_moduller FROM t_firmalar NOT DEFERRABLE INITIALLY IMMEDIATE FOR
EACH ROW EXECUTE PROCEDURE
RI_FKey_check_ins('firma_moduller_firma_fkey1', 't_firma_moduller',
't_firmalar', 'UNSPECIFIED', 'firma_no', 'no')
Odd, why is this not showing up as a foreign key constraint?  Has this
database been upgraded (no matter through how many different upgrades)
from an old version (7.1 or earlier I think)?
No, this is a fresh install. The database went live about 1 month ago.
prod=# DROP TRIGGER RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053 ON t_firma_moduller;
ERROR:  trigger ri_constrainttrigger_39053 for table t_firma_moduller
does not exist
You'd need to quote the trigger name because it's mixed case.
:-( I should have thought it. Thanks.
Is this a bug or something? There should not be a trigger there.
Well, it really should be showing up as something like:
CONSTRAINT firma_moduller_firma_fkey1 FOREIGN KEY (firma_no)
REFERENCES t_firmalar(no)
The problem is:
* We ran pg_dump about 15 days before with no problem. Neither any data 
nor any relation was dropped since the cluster was initialized. If the 
trigger was there, how could we run pg_dump successfully? If it isn't 
there, why does it prevent pg_dump?

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump issue : Cannot drop a non-existent(?) trigger

2005-03-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi Tom,
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Tom Lane wrote:
Stephan Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Odd, why is this not showing up as a foreign key constraint?  Has this
database been upgraded (no matter through how many different upgrades)
from an old version (7.1 or earlier I think)?
And the other odd thing is that it fails to dump it as a trigger either.
The invalid argument string complaint indicates that pg_dump didn't
find the right number of \000 sequences in the tgargs value; but
pg_get_triggerdef evidently is finding the right number of zero bytes.
It almost looks like the tgargs value got coerced from bytea to text
somewhere between the catalogs and pg_dump, but how'd that happen?
It'd be good to look at the trigger row directly:
select * from pg_trigger where tgname = 'RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053';
Here it is:
prod=# select * from pg_trigger where tgname = 'RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053';
- -[ RECORD 1 ]--+---
tgrelid| 37564
tgname | RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053
tgfoid | 1644
tgtype | 21
tgenabled  | t
tgisconstraint | t
tgconstrname   | firma_moduller_firma_fkey1
tgconstrrelid  | 37577
tgdeferrable   | f
tginitdeferred | f
tgnargs| 6
tgattr |
tgargs | firma_moduller_firma_fkey1
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Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump issue : Cannot drop a non-existent(?) trigger

2005-03-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Tom Lane wrote:
Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
prod=# select * from pg_trigger where tgname = 'RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053';
- -[ RECORD 1 ]--+---
tgrelid| 37564
tgname | RI_ConstraintTrigger_39053
tgfoid | 1644
tgtype | 21
tgenabled  | t
tgisconstraint | t
tgconstrname   | firma_moduller_firma_fkey1
tgconstrrelid  | 37577
tgdeferrable   | f
tginitdeferred | f
tgnargs| 6
tgattr |
tgargs | firma_moduller_firma_fkey1
Well, that's consistent with what pg_dump said the tgargs value is;
but it ought to look like
firma_moduller_firma_fkey1\000t_firma_moduller\000t_firmalar\000UNSPECIFIED\000firma_no\000no\000
and the output from \d proves that that data is actually stored.  So why
isn't it being displayed??
Does \d pg_trigger show that the tgargs column is of type bytea?
Umm no:
tgnargs| smallint   | not null
Also, get the OID for this pg_trigger row and see if it shows up in
objid or refobjid of any rows of pg_depend
Yes it is there
prod=# SELECT * from pg_depend WHERE objid =39053;
- -[ RECORD 1 ]--
classid | 16412
objid   | 39053
objsubid| 0
refclassid  | 1259
refobjid| 37564
refobjsubid | 0
deptype | a
- -[ RECORD 2 ]--
classid | 16412
objid   | 39053
objsubid| 0
refclassid  | 1259
refobjid| 37577
refobjsubid | 0
deptype | a
So... Is it with tgnargs issue? :(
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Re: [HACKERS] cvsup binaries?

2005-03-12 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Joe Conway wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The PostgreSQL docs suggest that ftp.postgresql.org holds binary builds of 
CVSup:
Is this still the case? (I couldn't see any cvsup binaries, but perhaps 
they are well-hidden).

If they are still there, they're probably exceedingly out of date :-(
Although listed as RH9, the ones at http://www.joeconway.com/ work on my FC2 
machine. They don't work on FC3 however, and I haven't gotten around to 
trying to rebuild on FC3.
If anyone's interested, I've rebuilt the packages for RHEL ES 3:
http://www.gunduz.org/rpms/cvsup/
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Disallow LOAD to non-superusers.

2005-01-24 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
Is it time for 7.4.7? I've seen many commits to 7.4 branch nowadays.
Regards, Devrim
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Tom Lane wrote:
Log Message:
---
Disallow LOAD to non-superusers.  Per report from John Heasman.
Tags:

REL7_4_STABLE
Modified Files:
--
   pgsql/src/backend/tcop:
   utility.c (r1.208 - r1.208.2.1)
   
(http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/backend/tcop/utility.c.diff?r1=1.208r2=1.208.2.1)
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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-hackers] Re: Translations at pgfoundry

2005-01-21 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Josh Berkus wrote:
OK, is anyone opposed to this idea? I would register a pgfoundry
project (name suggestions? translations?), give most established
translators commit access, and move the statistics pages there.
BTW, there is already a translators mailing list.   While I've been using 
it
for the press releases, there's no reason why the translators can use it for
all translations.
Are all regional contacts are also the translators of .po files?
Translating a press release is somewhat a non-technical issue; but the .po 
translators have to know PostgreSQL internals, I think... So, translators 
ml should be limited to the press release translators as it is now; and we 
need to create a new ml for the .po translators.

Just my 0.02 ...
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Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-hackers-win32] %2$, %1$ gettext placeholder

2005-01-17 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Tom Lane wrote:
snip
I don't think we'll hold up release to fix this,
:-) It seems nothing seems to stop you from holding up this release 
anymore: Neither ARC problem nor this one :)

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Re: [HACKERS] looking for rh9 rpms for pgadmin v 1.2

2005-01-13 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Dave Cramer wrote:
Is there any intent to build these rpm's ? Who is responsible for this ?
I remember a guy that was working on it. HE pushed me several times to get 
the spec file :) I've sent him at last, bur dont't remember what has 
happened soon.

I have RH9 at home but I'm connected via 28.8 K modem :) I can't dl/ul the 
RPM file. I also don't have a CD writer at home.

Anyway, if you are familiar with rebuilding rpms, please download our SRPM 
and rebuild your own rpm -- and please share it with us :)

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[HACKERS] [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Update: mysql-3.23.58-9.1 (fwd)

2004-12-10 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Heh heh heh :-)
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:33:48 -0500
From: Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SECURITY] Fedora Core 2 Update: mysql-3.23.58-9.1
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Fedora Update Notification
FEDORA-2004-530
2004-12-08
- -
Product : Fedora Core 2
Name: mysql
Version : 3.23.58
Release : 9.1
Summary : MySQL client programs and shared libraries.
Description :
MySQL is a multi-user, multi-threaded SQL database server. MySQL is a
client/server implementation consisting of a server daemon (mysqld)
and many different client programs and libraries. This package
contains the MySQL client programs, the client shared libraries, and
generic MySQL files.
- -
* Tue Oct 12 2004 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.23.58-9.1
- - fix security issues CAN-2004-0835, CAN-2004-0836, CAN-2004-0837
  (bugs #135372, 135375, 135387)
- - fix privilege escalation on GRANT ALL ON `Foo\_Bar` (CAN-2004-0957)
- - fix multilib problem with mysqlbug and mysql_config
- - adjust chkconfig priority per bug #128852
- - remove bogus quoting per bug #129409 (MySQL 4.0 has done likewise)
- - add sleep to mysql.init restart(); may or may not fix bug #133993
- - fix low-priority security issues CAN-2004-0388, CAN-2004-0381, CAN-2004-0457
  (bugs #119442, 125991, 130347, 130348)
- - fix bug with dropping databases under recent kernels (bug #124352)
- -
This update can be downloaded from:
  http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/2/
631ed84a7379164d0fbfb92b69016285  SRPMS/mysql-3.23.58-9.1.src.rpm
4a0aec6e6dbe79edd30eb441c2f142d6  x86_64/mysql-3.23.58-9.1.x86_64.rpm
36dccd9a66e5cea5350dce364bcabd35  x86_64/mysql-server-3.23.58-9.1.x86_64.rpm
dd48b7d5690d051d53958613be03d995  x86_64/mysql-devel-3.23.58-9.1.x86_64.rpm
96805f6f4016ea429a61c9fd1b048f13  x86_64/mysql-bench-3.23.58-9.1.x86_64.rpm
6226ba82b2bdfe91c3b6b966340cb117  
x86_64/debug/mysql-debuginfo-3.23.58-9.1.x86_64.rpm
643a2d1e297fc56c133e231b627ab9fa  i386/mysql-3.23.58-9.1.i386.rpm
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8d99d621e6259d4df98c242c9030  
i386/debug/mysql-debuginfo-3.23.58-9.1.i386.rpm
This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can
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[HACKERS] Small fix for 7.2.6/contrib/seg

2004-12-10 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
While trying to build 7.2.6 FC1 RPMs due to a request from Pierlugi today, 
I saw an error in contrib/seg. This small patch fixed the typo and we can 
build the RPMs now. Could you please apply it to 7.2?

===
- --- segparse.y.orig 2004-12-08 16:31:56.406802528 +0200
+++ segparse.y  2004-12-08 16:32:13.773162440 +0200
@@ -97,7 +97,6 @@
((SEG *)result)-l_ext = ( $1.ext ? $1.ext : '\0' );
((SEG *)result)-u_ext = '-';
   }
- -  ;
   |
   RANGE boundary {
((SEG *)result)-lower = -HUGE;
===
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Re: [HACKERS] Opinions on Usenet ...

2004-11-29 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and 
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using the 
mailing lists?
No. Using mailing lists is what I prefer since about '95.
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Re: [HACKERS] 7.4.5 / 7.4.6 crash (pg_hba.conf issue)

2004-11-17 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
Off-by-one memory allocation problem --- it only bites you if the string
lengths are just right, which probably explains the lack of prior
reports even though the bug has been there since 7.3.
Is this worth new dot releases?
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: timestamptz_trunc() should only recalculate

2004-11-01 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
I got an error in make check now, in horology test:
http://postgresql.gunduz.org/regression.diffs
Is it related to this commit?
Regards, Devrim
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
Log Message:
---
timestamptz_trunc() should only recalculate the timezone when truncating
to DAY precision or coarser; leave the timezone alone when precision is
HOUR or less.  This avoids surprises for inputs near a DST transition
time, as per example from Matthew Gabeler-Lee.  (The only reason we
recalculate at all is so that outputs that are supposed to represent
days will come out as local midnight, and that's not relevant for sub-day
precision.)
Modified Files:
--
   pgsql/src/backend/utils/adt:
   timestamp.c (r1.113 - r1.114)
   
(http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/backend/utils/adt/timestamp.c.diff?r1=1.113r2=1.114)
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: timestamptz_trunc() should only

2004-11-01 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote:
I got an error in make check now, in horology test:
http://postgresql.gunduz.org/regression.diffs
Is it related to this commit?
Ok, it seems no (tested with revision 1.113 for double-check). I've just 
read the recent discussion on -hackers.

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[HACKERS] make check error on -HEAD

2004-10-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
I'm getting this error on two different servers, one if them is the server 
that I build PostgreSQL from CVS daily, the other one is a fresh one (used 
to double-check the error)

Two servers have LANG=en_US.UTF-8. They are RHEL 3.0 Update 3 with gcc 
3.2.3-42, and bison 1.875c:
==

== creating database regression ==
CREATE DATABASE
pg_regress: could not set database default locales
make[2]: *** [check] Error 2
rm regress.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pgsql80/pgsql/src/test/regress'
make[1]: *** [check] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pgsql80/pgsql/src/test'
make: *** [check] Error 2
==
Any comments?
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Re: [HACKERS] make check error on -HEAD

2004-10-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
pg_regress: could not set database default locales
What shows up in the postmaster log file?
You mean src/test/regress/log/postmaster.log, right?
Actually not that much:
LOG:  database system was shut down at 2004-10-31 18:41:23 EET
LOG:  checkpoint record is at 0/A30FE8
LOG:  redo record is at 0/A30FE8; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE
LOG:  next transaction ID: 492; next OID: 17230
LOG:  database system is ready
LOG:  unexpected EOF on client connection
LOG:  received fast shutdown request
LOG:  shutting down
LOG:  database system is shut down
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Re: [HACKERS] make check error on -HEAD

2004-10-31 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
LOG:  unexpected EOF on client connection
Hmm, that seems to be the only sign of trouble, which I guess means we
have to conclude the problem is on the client side not the server side.
The part of the pg_regress script that is failing is evidently
$bindir/psql $psql_options -c \
checkpoint;
alter database \$dbname\ set lc_messages to 'C';
alter database \$dbname\ set lc_monetary to 'C';
alter database \$dbname\ set lc_numeric to 'C';
alter database \$dbname\ set lc_time to 'C'; $dbname 2/dev/null
if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
   echo $me: could not set database default locales
   (exit 2); exit
fi
Try removing the 2/dev/null bit so that you can see if any error
messages come out from psql.
Ok, we have a detailed error now:
/home/pgsql80/pgsql/src/test/regress/./tmp_check/install//usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql: 
relocation error: 
/home/pgsql80/pgsql/src/test/regress/./tmp_check/install//usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql: 
undefined symbol: PQgetCancel
pg_regress: could not set database default locales
make[2]: *** [check] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pgsql80/pgsql/src/test/regress'

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Re: [HACKERS] Compile error on 7.2.6/contrib/seg

2004-10-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
I get an error while building 7.2.6 RPMS on Fedora Core 1.

bison -y -d  -p seg_yy segparse.y
segparse.y:101.7: syntax error, unexpected |
Not sure anyone still cares, but I've backpatched the 7.3 fix for this,
just in case we do make any further 7.2.* releases.
Thanks. I'll rebuild 7.2.6 RPMS with that fix.
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Re: [HACKERS] RPMS, time, and other things.

2004-10-25 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Lamar Owen wrote:
I may critique from time-to-time the packaging, if Devrim doesn't mind,
It would not, and won't be without you. It's good to know that you are 
around, good to know that you'll keep your eye on the packages.

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[HACKERS] Compile error on 7.2.6/contrib/seg

2004-10-24 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
I get an error while building 7.2.6 RPMS on Fedora Core 1.
# gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20031022 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.2-1)
# bison --version
bison (GNU Bison) 1.875

make[1]: Entering directory 
`/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.2.6/contrib/seg'
sed 's,MODULE_PATHNAME,$libdir/seg,g' seg.sql.in seg.sql
gcc -O2 -g -pipe -march=i686 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -fpic -I. -I../../src/include   -c -o seg.o seg.c
bison -y -d  -p seg_yy segparse.y
segparse.y:101.7: syntax error, unexpected |
make[1]: *** [segparse.h] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.2.6/contrib/seg'
make: *** [all] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/postgresql-7.2.6/contrib'
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.22295 (%build)


I've built this on Red Hat 9 and RHEL3, btw. Since it may be an ancient 
version, maybe it's not that important to fix...

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Re: [HACKERS] Compiling from CVS: undefined reference to

2004-09-27 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi,
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Serguei A. Mokhov wrote:
Risking to report a dup (by being on digest), I report that I can't
compile postgres from just CVS-checked out sources:
snip
Just had a fresh checkout, but could not reproduce it on RHEL3, gcc 
3.2.3. Maybe you were caught in the middle of an commit?

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Re: [HACKERS] Compiling from CVS: undefined reference to

2004-09-27 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Serguei A. Mokhov wrote:
Just had a fresh checkout, but could not reproduce it on RHEL3, gcc
3.2.3. Maybe you were caught in the middle of a commit?
Dunno. I then did cvs up -dP, make distclean, and then ./configure
--enable-nls again two times and the problem is still there.
Perhaps it'd be wise of me to report the OS and the compiler versions :)
This is FC2 with gcc 3.3.2.
...
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pgsql80/pgsql/config'
All of PostgreSQL successfully made. Ready to install.
This is also FC2, with gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7), 
a server that PostgreSQL has never been compiled before.

There must be something messing up with your (previous) installation.
Regards,
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Re: [HACKERS] SELECT FOR UPDATE NOWAIT and PostgreSQL 8.0

2004-09-14 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Simon Riggs wrote:
Now we have LOCK TABLE ... NOWAIT; but I wonder whether we'll have the
SELECT ... NOWAIT one.  Today I got a request for this; and it was
reported that this feature will be used in a huge project.
Well, it shouldn't be too much of a patch - just cloning the code?
Perhaps they can start in development without it and we'll patch it in
later.
I learned that the code is ready. They'll change the code now.
Hmm... this seems the exact opposite of how I would tend to think
the feature
would be used... ie. you don't really care how long the query takes, just
that you can't get the lock.
Agreed - and this is important! I thought we'd done NOWAIT on the SELECT...
Oh well, 8.1 will be better still.
Bruce: Any TODO here? ;)
Regards,
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