Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance object

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

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De: "stepharong" <stephar...@free.fr> 
Para: "Pablo Digonzelli" <pdigonze...@gmail.com> 
CC: "Steven Costiou" <steven.cost...@kloum.io>, "Any question about pharo is 
welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> 
Enviados: Lunes, 6 de Marzo 2017 17:39:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance 
object 

On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 05:19:35 +0100, Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonze...@gmail.com> 
wrote: 




Hi Stef. I was reading your link. 
I found it very interesting . 



Black magic is seductive :) 
But it burns your soul :) 
Look like a good black sabbath song 


BQ_BEGIN

I think i will working in that direction having in mind your advise. 
Tia 


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Para: "Steven Costiou" <steven.cost...@kloum.io>, "Pablo Digonzelli" 
<pdigonze...@gmail.com>, "Any question about pharo is welcome" 
<pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> 
Enviados: Sábado, 4 de Marzo 2017 6:18:24 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance 
object 


It is really possible and we are working on a new implementation of talents 
based on anonymous classes. 
Now what you should know is that 
- i would use this mechanism for debugging/tooling 
- i would try to avoid this as much as possible for domain modeling because 
it breaks all the hidden assumptions we have. 

stef 



BQ_BEGIN

Hi Steven . For the moment i just want to understand how it is possible. 
In the future may be i can apply this mechanism for future projects. 

Pablo 


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De: "Steven Costiou" <steven.cost...@kloum.io> 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> 
CC: "Pablo Digonzelli" <pdigonze...@gmail.com> 
Enviados: Viernes, 3 de Marzo 2017 11:03:23 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance 
object 



Hi, 

could you describe why you need this ? Do you have a usecase ? 

Just interested to know, as i work on similar mechanisms. 

Steven. 



Le 2017-03-03 14:55, Pablo R. Digonzelli a écrit : 
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Thanks Denis, I will take a look . I think this is what i need. 
Tia 

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De: "Denis Kudriashov" <dionisi...@gmail.com> 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> 
Enviados: Viernes, 3 de Marzo 2017 10:11:53 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance 
object 

Hi. 
Look at project Talents https://github.com/tesonep/pharo-talents . 
Idea is to implement behaviour (also with state) in normal way with classes and 
then dynamically install it to any existing objects 

2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 Pablo R. Digonzelli < pdigonze...@gmail.com > : 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi all. I need to know how can i do if i want add new behaviour ( a new method 
) to a single instance object of a class. 
It means not to add new selector to the class but i want a single instance 
responds that mesage. 
Where can i read about it? 
Tia 


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Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance object

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi Steven . For the moment i just want to understand how it is possible. 
In the future may be i can apply this mechanism for future projects. 

Pablo 


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De: "Steven Costiou" <steven.cost...@kloum.io> 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> 
CC: "Pablo Digonzelli" <pdigonze...@gmail.com> 
Enviados: Viernes, 3 de Marzo 2017 11:03:23 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance 
object 



Hi, 

could you describe why you need this ? Do you have a usecase ? 

Just interested to know, as i work on similar mechanisms. 

Steven. 



Le 2017-03-03 14:55, Pablo R. Digonzelli a écrit : 


Thanks Denis, I will take a look . I think this is what i need. 
Tia 

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De: "Denis Kudriashov" <dionisi...@gmail.com> 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> 
Enviados: Viernes, 3 de Marzo 2017 10:11:53 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance 
object 

Hi. 
Look at project Talents https://github.com/tesonep/pharo-talents . 
Idea is to implement behaviour (also with state) in normal way with classes and 
then dynamically install it to any existing objects 

2017-03-03 14:07 GMT+01:00 Pablo R. Digonzelli < pdigonze...@gmail.com > : 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi all. I need to know how can i do if i want add new behaviour ( a new method 
) to a single instance object of a class. 
It means not to add new selector to the class but i want a single instance 
responds that mesage. 
Where can i read about it? 
Tia 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Dividato SA 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 




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[Pharo-users] adding messages dinamically to a single instance object

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all. I need to know how can i do if i want add new behaviour ( a new method 
) to a single instance object of a class. 
It means not to add new selector to the class but i want a single instance 
responds that mesage. 
Where can i read about it? 
Tia 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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Re: [Pharo-users] startUp Application

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Thanks all! 
I have enought information to begin working with.
I will comment the results.




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- Mensaje original -
De: "Ben Coman" <b...@openinworld.com>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
Enviados: Sábado, 25 de Febrero 2017 9:45:22
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] startUp Application

I haven't packaged any apps myself.  I just have fun hacking the Image.
I know of these Squeak related ones from a while ago.
YMMV but may give some ideas.

http://squeakvm.org/win32/custom.html

http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/205.html

cheers -ben

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Pablo R. Digonzelli
<pdigonze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I want to know how to do in order a desktop application start with its
> custom menu without pharo panel.
> I read something about to startUp method but i need more information.
> Sorry for my english and TIA
>
>
>
>
> 
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Dividato SA
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
> pdigonze...@gmail.com
> Cel: 5493815982714

[Pharo-users] startUp Application

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi, I want to know how to do in order a desktop application start with its 
custom menu without pharo panel. 
I read something about to startUp method but i need more information. 
Sorry for my english and TIA 





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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New Pharo Glorp version and Book chapter

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Excellent Esteban. 
Thanks a lot 



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- Mensaje original -
De: "Esteban A. Maringolo" 
Para: "Pharo users" , "GLORP Mailing List" 

Enviados: Domingo, 29 de Mayo 2016 15:27:17
Asunto: [ANN] New Pharo Glorp version and Book chapter

Hello all,

During the first part of the year, and sponsored by the Pharo
Consortium, I started a new port of Glorp, the Object-Relational
mapper, based on the latest version available in VW 8.0.1.

This latest port was done from scratch in Pharo and brings features
and bugfixes that were accumulated in the VW port during more than 5
years (previous Pharo port) and weren't available until now; and it
uses the Garage database drivers (but not limited to them).

During the last couple of months, and also by request of the
Consortium, I wrote a chapter for one of the Pharo books describing
Glorp as much as possible, with tutorials and key concepts. The
chapter ended up being the longest in text and pages of all written;
the domain is so broad and deep that I'm considering taking it to a
whole book, who knows...

The book is available at
,
and I will welcome suggestions and corrections as pull requests to


The Glorp repository is the same as the previous one
(http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~DBXTalk/Glorp), and the current
Metacello configs will load the previous version for Pharo 4 and the
new version for Pharo 5. For the foreseeable future I'll continue
maintaining Glorp, but the code is MIT and I'm open to contributions
(I'll set up a Github repo in the next days).

Also I've been running production software based on Glorp for a few
years now, so my experience with it cover most of its features and
usage patterns, so if you have particular questions not covered by the
book chapter or any other material feel free to ask me, this mailing
list or to the Glorp mailing list at .

Best regards!

Esteban A. Maringolo

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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New Pharo Glorp version and Book chapter

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

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De: "Esteban A. Maringolo" 
Para: "Pharo users" , "GLORP Mailing List" 

Enviados: Domingo, 29 de Mayo 2016 15:27:17
Asunto: [ANN] New Pharo Glorp version and Book chapter
Excellent, thanks a lot




Hello all,

During the first part of the year, and sponsored by the Pharo
Consortium, I started a new port of Glorp, the Object-Relational
mapper, based on the latest version available in VW 8.0.1.

This latest port was done from scratch in Pharo and brings features
and bugfixes that were accumulated in the VW port during more than 5
years (previous Pharo port) and weren't available until now; and it
uses the Garage database drivers (but not limited to them).

During the last couple of months, and also by request of the
Consortium, I wrote a chapter for one of the Pharo books describing
Glorp as much as possible, with tutorials and key concepts. The
chapter ended up being the longest in text and pages of all written;
the domain is so broad and deep that I'm considering taking it to a
whole book, who knows...

The book is available at
,
and I will welcome suggestions and corrections as pull requests to


The Glorp repository is the same as the previous one
(http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~DBXTalk/Glorp), and the current
Metacello configs will load the previous version for Pharo 4 and the
new version for Pharo 5. For the foreseeable future I'll continue
maintaining Glorp, but the code is MIT and I'm open to contributions
(I'll set up a Github repo in the next days).

Also I've been running production software based on Glorp for a few
years now, so my experience with it cover most of its features and
usage patterns, so if you have particular questions not covered by the
book chapter or any other material feel free to ask me, this mailing
list or to the Glorp mailing list at .

Best regards!

Esteban A. Maringolo

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[Pharo-users] Datatables

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi, I am interesting in using Datatables in a Seaside app. 
I know there is wrapper fot this in StHub. Is there is examples how to use it? 


TIA 


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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

yes it is! 
Thanks 

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De: Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
CC: Pharo Development List pharo-...@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 30 de Abril 2015 17:02:01 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2) 

Awesome job, Esteban! 
This is highly useful. 

Doru 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Esteban Lorenzano  esteba...@gmail.com  
wrote: 



Hi again, 
Now I made a small video on how to use Versionner to help you manage your 
releases and commits. 

https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 

This is new stuff, so you will need latest Pharo 5 to use it, alternatively you 
can install latest Versionner into Pharo 4 (I don’t know how it will work on 
Pharo 3, you’ll probably need to load Glamour as well others). 
In Pharo 4, you can install it executing: 

Gofer it 
smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'Versionner'; 
configuration; 
loadVersion: '2.12.2'. 

cheers, 
Esteban 








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Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2)

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Esteban, Versionner menu options in Monticello does not work in pharo 4.0. I am 
right? 




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De: Gastón Dall' Oglio gaston.dallog...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 30 de Abril 2015 17:49:34 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Screencast on Versionner (Part 2) 

Thanks!!! 


2015-04-30 10:31 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano  esteba...@gmail.com  : 



Hi again, 
Now I made a small video on how to use Versionner to help you manage your 
releases and commits. 

https://youtu.be/cFRJDuWL-Q0 

This is new stuff, so you will need latest Pharo 5 to use it, alternatively you 
can install latest Versionner into Pharo 4 (I don’t know how it will work on 
Pharo 3, you’ll probably need to load Glamour as well others). 
In Pharo 4, you can install it executing: 

Gofer it 
smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'Versionner'; 
configuration; 
loadVersion: '2.12.2'. 

cheers, 
Esteban 

Re: [Pharo-users] Glorp with NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Excellent!!!

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- Mensaje original -
De: Pierce Ng pie...@samadhiweb.com
Para: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Jueves, 2 de Abril 2015 14:17:41
Asunto: [Pharo-users] Glorp with NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4

Hi all,

I've integrated NBSQLite3 into Glorp on the current Pharo v40592 beta image. 
Details in my blog post here: 

  http://www.samadhiweb.com/blog/

Pierce

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Esteban, i am trying to deploy a Seaside app in Windows. I want pharo running 
headless and i will want to implement it as Windows Service. 

But does not matter. Trying start pharo4 last image last vm ( 
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/) in headless . 

pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null imagefile.image --no-quit. It does not 
work. Abort 

pharo -vm-sound-null imagefile .image --no-quit. I works but with gui. 

I hope it will help you to understand the situation. 



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De: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Viernes, 13 de Marzo 2015 14:00:52 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

squeak vm info is for squeak vm, not for pharo vm (which has some differences… 
for example). 

I will ask you again to give us more information about your command line, what 
you are trying to do, etc. 

otherwise you will stay flipping around, because people will answer in general… 
not very useful for you. 

Esteban 




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I understand , wher can i get Andrea's command line info? 
TIA 

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- Mensaje original - 
De: David T. Lewis  le...@mail.msen.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 20:54:20 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN
I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the 
process. 
Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 



The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is 
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays. 
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code. 
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different 
VM command line parameters. 

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to 
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be 
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables. 

Dave 



BQ_BEGIN


TIA 


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De: Esteban Lorenzano  esteba...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 





On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, p...@highoctane.be wrote: 



Headless on windows is not working I think. 



that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be 
letting a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version? 
image version? 
anything relevant? 

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say ???it 
hurts me?? not much we can do to help. 

Esteban 


BQ_BEGIN 



There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console 
version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a 
Windows service in there... 

Phil 
Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  a ??crit 
: 

BQ_BEGIN 

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


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De: Pablo Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


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De: pablo digonzelli  pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I understand , wher can i get Andrea's command line info?
TIA

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De: David T. Lewis le...@mail.msen.com
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 20:54:20
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
 I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the 
 process. 
 Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
 For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 

The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
VM command line parameters.

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.

Dave


 
 
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 De: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com 
 Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
 Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, p...@highoctane.be wrote: 
 
 
 
 Headless on windows is not working I think. 
 
 
 
 that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be 
 letting a window in the try). 
 
 can you provide more information? 
 
 vm version? 
 image version? 
 anything relevant? 
 
 just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say 
 ???it hurts me?? not much we can do to help. 
 
 Esteban 
 
 
 BQ_BEGIN
 
 
 
 There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console 
 version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a 
 Windows service in there... 
 
 Phil 
 Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  a 
 ??crit : 
 
 BQ_BEGIN
 
 Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
 does not work . 
 Any suggestion? 
 
 
 TIA 
 
 
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 pdigonze...@gmail.com 
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 De: Pablo Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
 Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
 Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 
 
 Hi, i solve the problem! 
 
 ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
 --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 
 
 works very well 
 
 TIA 
 
 
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 De: pablo digonzelli  pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz  
 Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
 Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
 Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 
 
 I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working 
 on. 
 I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
 May be someone can help me. 
 TIA 
 
 
 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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 San Miguel de Tucum??n 
 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
 pdigonze...@gmail.com 
 Cel: 5493815982714 
 
 
 BQ_END
 
 
 BQ_END
 
 

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the 
process. 
Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 


TIA 


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De: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 





On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, p...@highoctane.be wrote: 



Headless on windows is not working I think. 



that’s not related, —no-quit should be working (and —headless should be letting 
a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version? 
image version? 
anything relevant? 

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say “it 
hurts me”… not much we can do to help. 

Esteban 


BQ_BEGIN



There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console 
version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a 
Windows service in there... 

Phil 
Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  a écrit 
: 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


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De: Pablo Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


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De: pablo digonzelli  pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


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pdigonze...@gmail.com 
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BQ_END


BQ_END

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit 
does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


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De: Pablo Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


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De: pablo digonzelli pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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pdigonze...@gmail.com 
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[Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm 
--encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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De: pablo digonzelli pdigonze...@softsargentina.dyndns.biz 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
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Re: [Pharo-users] scaled decimal number for currency

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I'll try. 
Supose i have an item wich has an id and a price . 
For example id is 77 and price 41.69. 
If I use ScaledDecimal with scale 2 for price , glorp create this string for 
query execution: 'INSERT INTO item (id,price) VALUES (77,41.69s2); 
and of course give me a GlorpDatabaseWriteError for the 's2' part of the 
string. 
If i comment the line aStream nextPut: $s; print: scale. in printOn: of 
ScaledDecimal glorp works with no problem. 

I hope you understand. Sorry for my bad english 

TIA 




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De: stepharo steph...@free.fr 
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Enviados: Jueves, 5 de Marzo 2015 10:04:06 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] scaled decimal number for currency 

can you give example? 


Le 5/3/15 13:21, Pablo R. Digonzelli a écrit : 



Hi, I want to use scaled decimal numbers for currency amounts. I am using Glorp 
too. 
The problem is that when Glorp generates sql sentences has a problem with 
#printOn: of ScaledDecimal wich produces output that include the scale value. 
I do not want to modify printOn: on ScaledDecimal. Any suggestion for this 
problem? 

TIA 





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[Pharo-users] scaled decimal number for currency

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi, I want to use scaled decimal numbers for currency amounts. I am using Glorp 
too. 
The problem is that when Glorp generates sql sentences has a problem with 
#printOn: of ScaledDecimal wich produces output that include the scale value. 
I do not want to modify printOn: on ScaledDecimal. Any suggestion for this 
problem? 

TIA 





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Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

where can i watch it?

Pablo

- Mensaje original -
De: Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu
Para: nicolaih...@web.de, Any question about pharo is welcome 
pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Febrero 2015 3:29:42
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo and ui again

 On 12 Feb 2015, at 00:46, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote:
 
 But much howtos or tutorials widely scattered and aren't up to date.

Johan Fabry's talk at the Pharo Days was an excellent introduction to Spec, 
watch it.

[Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all , I need to invoke python rutines from Pharo. I need some orientation 
about the best way to do it. 
TIA 


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Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Yes , I was aware of the excellent work of kilon. 
I was hoping that this be the way to solve my issue. 

Thanks kilon, I will follow your instructions and comment the results into the 
list. 



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De: kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 25 de Septiembre 2014 14:13:34 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo 

a minor correction to the previous email its 
python3 pyatlas.py and not python3 pyAtlas.py 

also I forgot to make clear that it works for pyhton 2.7 and python 3. 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:11 PM, kilon alios  kilon.al...@gmail.com  wrote: 



Hi there, I promised to do this a long time ago, but since you asked it I done 
it now. 
So as Ben said I am the author of Ephestos, a communication bridge between 
Blender and Pharo . 

To go directly to the how to . Ephestos is basically a socket bridge that send 
via sockets strings from pharo to python that then python executes as python 
commands. 

Ephestos is made so it works inside blender but I promised Atals a spin off 
project that allows the same socket bridge to be used as a standalone. To use 
do the following. 

1) Get Ephestos , you can find it and install it with the configuration browser 
in your image in Pharo 3 and Pharo 4. Make sure you have a recent release 
though because I added it recently. 

2) Get pyAtlas , this is the python side , you can get it from here -- 
https://github.com/kilon/pyAtlas 

3) in your command line cd to the pyAtlas directory and execute : python3 
pyAtlas.py 

4) in Pharo you can now try any python code you want 

for example 

Ephestos sendMessage: 'print(hello world)'. 
Ephestos sendMessage: 'x = 3'. 
x := Ephestos getValue: 'x'. 
x inspect. 

Ephestos sendMessage: string, basically sends the python command to be executes 
while getValue: sends the command and returns a value as a string. 

you can use string 'exit' to close the socket bridge but this part is buggy as 
it seems to keep the binding of the sokcet active and I have to wait to clean 
it up in macos to reopen the bridge. 

You can also use pharo syntax and python errors will trigger the pharo debugger 
with a title the python error itself. 

You can find more information about Ephestos in my gitbook that can be read 
here 

https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/ephestos 

Also I forgot to add that sendMessage can send multiline strings , so its 
possible to send python class definitions and other stuff, you type the string 
exactly as you would type python code respecting whitespaces. If you want to 
execute loads of lines of python code then it would be better to put your code 
in a python module and do 

Ephestos sendMessage: 'import mymodule' 

assuming your module is called 'mymodule' , python import basically are 
executions of code. 

If you have any questions just ask. 

Bare in mind this is a socket bridge so its not ideal for sending thousands of 
messages per second and you may run into the occasional bug or two which I will 
fix if you report it. Nonetheless it should allow you to execute any kind of 
code and not just call python functions or python methods. 



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Ben Coman  b...@openinworld.com  wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 
BQ_BEGIN

Hi all , I need to invoke python rutines from Pharo. I need some orientation 
about the best way to do it. 
TIA 


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Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
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pdigonze...@gmail.com 
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Search the [pharo-dev] list for Ephestos by kilon. 
cheers -ben 

BQ_END



BQ_END

Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Excellent, I will waiting ... 



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De: kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Jueves, 25 de Septiembre 2014 16:01:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo 

Its far from excellent. Its not as tested as I want it to be, and the code 
could be much better but it works and makes interfacing with python code very 
easy. 
Its also an ongoing project that I will keep adding feature to , for example I 
would like to extend pharo syntax to more complex stuff than calling python 
methods like defining python classes etc so you wont have to use sendMessage 
and getValue at all and not have to write a line of python code. In short do 
all your python coding using 100% pharo syntax. But that will take a lot of 
time to do because it will require a fully python syntax parser. 
I have updated the code to resolve the error when issuing a command to close 
the bridge with 

Ephestos sendMessage:'exit'. 

This command basically terminate pyAtlas and closes it server socket. 

I dont know if its Pharo or Python or Macos but it looks like it takes time to 
free up the socket address so you will need 20 seconds to restart pyAtlas 
again. I tried to set the timeout of the socket to 1 second but it looks to me 
it still uses the default 20 seconds timeout. I guess 20 sec is not that bad 
for a pre alpha software :D 

But anyway that should not be a problem since you will have to rerun pyatlas 
every 20 sec , which is something you would not want to do . 

I was actually planning to test Ephestos with pyQT and pyCuda and make a 
youtube video about it but have not found the time yet. Probably in the 
weekend. 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
wrote: 



Yes , I was aware of the excellent work of kilon. 
I was hoping that this be the way to solve my issue. 

Thanks kilon, I will follow your instructions and comment the results into the 
list. 



Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: kilon alios  kilon.al...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Jueves, 25 de Septiembre 2014 14:13:34 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] invoking python from pharo 

a minor correction to the previous email its 
python3 pyatlas.py and not python3 pyAtlas.py 

also I forgot to make clear that it works for pyhton 2.7 and python 3. 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:11 PM, kilon alios  kilon.al...@gmail.com  wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi there, I promised to do this a long time ago, but since you asked it I done 
it now. 
So as Ben said I am the author of Ephestos, a communication bridge between 
Blender and Pharo . 

To go directly to the how to . Ephestos is basically a socket bridge that send 
via sockets strings from pharo to python that then python executes as python 
commands. 

Ephestos is made so it works inside blender but I promised Atals a spin off 
project that allows the same socket bridge to be used as a standalone. To use 
do the following. 

1) Get Ephestos , you can find it and install it with the configuration browser 
in your image in Pharo 3 and Pharo 4. Make sure you have a recent release 
though because I added it recently. 

2) Get pyAtlas , this is the python side , you can get it from here -- 
https://github.com/kilon/pyAtlas 

3) in your command line cd to the pyAtlas directory and execute : python3 
pyAtlas.py 

4) in Pharo you can now try any python code you want 

for example 

Ephestos sendMessage: 'print(hello world)'. 
Ephestos sendMessage: 'x = 3'. 
x := Ephestos getValue: 'x'. 
x inspect. 

Ephestos sendMessage: string, basically sends the python command to be executes 
while getValue: sends the command and returns a value as a string. 

you can use string 'exit' to close the socket bridge but this part is buggy as 
it seems to keep the binding of the sokcet active and I have to wait to clean 
it up in macos to reopen the bridge. 

You can also use pharo syntax and python errors will trigger the pharo debugger 
with a title the python error itself. 

You can find more information about Ephestos in my gitbook that can be read 
here 

https://www.gitbook.io/book/kilon/ephestos 

Also I forgot to add that sendMessage can send multiline strings , so its 
possible to send python class definitions and other stuff, you type the string 
exactly as you would type python code respecting whitespaces. If you want to 
execute loads of lines of python code then it would be better to put your code 
in a python module and do 

Ephestos sendMessage: 'import mymodule' 

assuming your module is called 'mymodule' , python import basically are 
executions

[Pharo-users] article about mongodb

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

It may be a little off topic for the list, but i am think will be interesting 
for users of mongotalk and voyage. 

http://www.infoq.com/news/2013/02/MongoDB-Fault-Tolerance-Broken 




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Re: [Pharo-users] The fourth R

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I think your work is very interesting kilon. 
May be you can create framework for call python libraries from pharo. 




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- Mensaje original -

De: kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Domingo, 7 de Septiembre 2014 16:19:39 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] The fourth R 

A Python bridge is what I am working on with my project Ephestos, using a 
socket server / client relationship between Pharo and Python. So far it has 
been going quite well and is already usable for calling python libraries etc. 
It seems to work very well even for more complex python code, like class 
definition , function definitions etc. I use it to communicate with and control 
Blender. The same concept could well apply to any other languages Its 
definitely a project I am very interested so Python libraries are coming to 
Pharo sooner or later. Probably sooner ;) 


On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas  
off...@riseup.net  wrote: 


Hi, 

Really nice to see this talks here. My two cents would be around supporting a 
model that can grow with the user and trying to create a connected experience. 
I have been previously teaching Introduction to Informatics to young (17-21 
years old) newbies and they include introductory programming. For that I have 
taught with Scheme, Python, Scratch/Etoys/Bots Inc and recently I been creating 
some data narratives on health with IPython. From this two experience (newbies 
teaching and data narratives) separated like ten years between them, I think 
that the idea of a continuous environment one that not only is connected across 
time (supporting your learning in time) but also in space, connecting several 
ways of programming and other environments. The idea of programming as a kind 
of literacy has point me to visual data narratives as a practical way to build 
this two axes continuum, of course, video games and (web) app building are 
others, but I think they're more specialized. 

I think that Pharo now with Roassal and Moose can be vehicles for this visual 
data narratives, with the advantage that once you learn the language to tell 
this stories, you can also change the tools for build/express your 
understanding of the world, making use of the turtles all the way down 
metaphor, but for that we need exploring the say that Pharo can play better 
with others (for example pharo/python bridges). 

Cheers, 

Offray 



On 09/07/2014 05:29 AM, kilon alios wrote: 

blockquote

Python has no competition. Sure there are languages that are more popular than 
Python for their own reasons. There have been simpler languages before python, 
there have been more popular languages, more cross platform languages etc etc 
but Python fills a gap that no language was able to fill before it , easy to 
use 
very powerful well documented libraries. Python is a language that you can 
teach 
to a kid now and make a living later on using until his or her old age. Its not 
because the language is simple , its simple enough but not the simplest. Its 
because the culture surrounding the creation of libraries . That culture has a 
name its called pythonic 

Beautiful is better than ugly. 
Explicit is better than implicit. 
Simple is better than complex. 
Complex is better than complicated. 
Flat is better than nested. 
Sparse is better than dense. 
Readability counts. 
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. 
Although practicality beats purity. 
Errors should never pass silently. 
Unless explicitly silenced. 
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess. 
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. 
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch. 
Now is better than never. 
Although never is often better than *right* now. 
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea. 
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea. 
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! 


this kind of ideology is why Python has been so successful. It has also 
inspired jokes like this 


http://xkcd.com/353/ 

it may look funny and it says thinks about overestimating the simplicity of 
those libraries but python does feel at times as simple as this, as simple as 
importing antigravity. 

So if a kid comes to me and ask me what language should I learn , I will 
recommend a language that is fairly easy to learn , has powerful library , easy 
to use libraries , well documented and its a language that will able to keep 
using even if his or her needs change, forever. For that only Python is the 
language that has been able to succeed and I think its adoption will continue 
to progress in educational institutions pretty much everywhere on the planet. 

Re: [Pharo-users] best solution to store data

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

What about transactions and ACID things with voyager and Mongo? 



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- Mensaje original -

De: Tim Mackinnon tim@testit.works 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Martes, 2 de Septiembre 2014 6:33:26 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] best solution to store data 

Esteban talked about Voyage at ESUG, its on the list of talks here: 
http://goo.gl/E1VF53 

You can of course scale up to Gemstone (or indeed start with that as well if 
you need something more commercial and supported - there is a Gemstone talk in 
that link as well). 

Tim 

On 2 Sep 2014, at 07:17, Roelof Wobben  r.wob...@home.nl  wrote: 



Hello, 

I want to try to make a financial app for a organisation. 

There are some 50 customers so also 50 invoices a year. 
Then the payments . Also 50 a year. 

Cash and bank accounts . Every month some 10 - 20 things. 

So on my disk on the programm I now use it costs me some 30 - 50 Kb a year. 

What are my options for storage of those data. 

I could use a database , but I wonder if there are more and better options. 

Roelof 

Re: [Pharo-users] goods

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Yes . I will appreciate if you can do it. 

Regards 

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- Mensaje original -

De: Andy Kellens akell...@vub.ac.be 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Lunes, 21 de Julio 2014 16:10:23 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] goods 

Hi, 

It has been a rather long time since we pushed an update to the public 
repository of DALi. 
This does not mean that the project is abandoned: we still use it actively for 
Yesplan to switch easily between the database in our development environment 
(very simple in-mem db for e.g. unit tests, GOODS) and deploying on GemStone. 

Recently, we did add a couple of small features and fixed some bugs, so I’ll 
coordinate with Johan when he is back next week and see to it that a new 
version is pushed. 
Let’s take advantage of the opportunity to migrate DALi (and also update/extend 
its documentation). 

Kind regards, 

Andy 

On 20 Jul 2014, at 19:14, stepharo  steph...@free.fr  wrote: 




http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html/Overview 

Johan should migrate it. 

Stef 

On 20/7/14 18:53, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 

blockquote

Thanks steph , i am looking for DALI but i can found it neither on squeaksource 
neither on smalltalhub . Can you help me with that? 

TIA 


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- Mensaje original -

De: stepharo steph...@free.fr 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Domingo, 20 de Julio 2014 5:48:06 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] goods 

Hi Pablo 

I do not know. Now what I suggest to you is to use DALI (it is an abstraction 
layer built by the yesPlan guys Johan, andy 
- johan is on vacation). 

Dali was presented at ESUG at Barcelona. The idea is to make sure that you can 
switch between Goods and other oo database. 

There is also magma but since chris muller is developing in Squeak I do not 
know if it is working in Pharo and also 
if it scales for you. May be chris will comment. 

Stef 

On 20/7/14 00:56, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 

blockquote

hi all, is someone using GOODS in production project? 
I want to know their opinion about it. 

TIA 



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/blockquote


/blockquote

Re: [Pharo-users] goods

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Thanks steph , i am looking for DALI but i can found it neither on squeaksource 
neither on smalltalhub . Can you help me with that? 

TIA 


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- Mensaje original -

De: stepharo steph...@free.fr 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Domingo, 20 de Julio 2014 5:48:06 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] goods 

Hi Pablo 

I do not know. Now what I suggest to you is to use DALI (it is an abstraction 
layer built by the yesPlan guys Johan, andy 
- johan is on vacation). 

Dali was presented at ESUG at Barcelona. The idea is to make sure that you can 
switch between Goods and other oo database. 

There is also magma but since chris muller is developing in Squeak I do not 
know if it is working in Pharo and also 
if it scales for you. May be chris will comment. 

Stef 

On 20/7/14 00:56, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 



hi all, is someone using GOODS in production project? 
I want to know their opinion about it. 

TIA 



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Re: [Pharo-users] goods

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Thanks! 




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- Mensaje original -

De: stepharo steph...@free.fr 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Domingo, 20 de Julio 2014 14:14:16 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] goods 

http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/DALi.html/Overview 

Johan should migrate it. 

Stef 

On 20/7/14 18:53, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 



Thanks steph , i am looking for DALI but i can found it neither on squeaksource 
neither on smalltalhub . Can you help me with that? 

TIA 


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- Mensaje original -

De: stepharo steph...@free.fr 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Domingo, 20 de Julio 2014 5:48:06 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] goods 

Hi Pablo 

I do not know. Now what I suggest to you is to use DALI (it is an abstraction 
layer built by the yesPlan guys Johan, andy 
- johan is on vacation). 

Dali was presented at ESUG at Barcelona. The idea is to make sure that you can 
switch between Goods and other oo database. 

There is also magma but since chris muller is developing in Squeak I do not 
know if it is working in Pharo and also 
if it scales for you. May be chris will comment. 

Stef 

On 20/7/14 00:56, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: 

blockquote

hi all, is someone using GOODS in production project? 
I want to know their opinion about it. 

TIA 



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/blockquote

[Pharo-users] goods

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

hi all, is someone using GOODS in production project? 
I want to know their opinion about it. 

TIA 



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[Pharo-users] read an email with attachment

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all, need to read email with attachment from pharo. 
Exists some example i can use for? 

TIA 

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Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

In my case, I made a mistake wich crashes the image. 
After Phil explainme how to use my changes file on a new image i recover my 
work i think very efficiently. 
Thanks for the help 




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- Mensaje original -

De: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Lunes, 30 de Junio 2014 5:21:34 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 


On 29 Jun 2014, at 10:36, stepharo  steph...@free.fr  wrote: 




Phil 

there is no magic. 
We cannot clone people and we should pay people also and our backlog is quite 
large. 

Stef 


On 28/6/14 18:10, p...@highoctane.be wrote: 

blockquote


Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. 

But it was no 3.0 

It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image 
this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after 
opening. 

One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script 
helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. 

Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! 

Now, images should not freeze. 
And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. 

I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP 
Monticello code. 



/blockquote

yes, but this is not a VM problem but the image. 
is about how the image react to a socket presence when restarting. 


blockquote


blockquote


Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc 
conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. 
/blockquote

why this is like that in many smalltalk VM if I'M correct. 

/blockquote


AFAIK, is a problem on any VM not just smalltalk ones (but probably for us is 
more important than others). 


blockquote



blockquote


For commercial work these things are important. 

Phil 





Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  a écrit 
: 

blockquote

From where can i download oz for pharo 3? 

TIA 


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De: Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a 
fresh one? 

TIA 



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De: Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 
Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash 

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not 
work. 
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by 
menu. 
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? 


TIA 


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/blockquote


/blockquote


/blockquote

[Pharo-users] caturing key pressed

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all , I need to capture the key pressed in a Spec TextModel and ListModel. 
Can someone give orientation? 

TIA 


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Re: [Pharo-users] caturing key pressed

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

How can I know the widget has focus ? TIA


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- Mensaje original -
De: Johan Fabry jfa...@dcc.uchile.cl
Para: Pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Lunes, 30 de Junio 2014 13:42:26
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] caturing key pressed


I don’t think there is a built-in way to do that. What you might do is register 
to keyboard events when one of these models gets the keyboard focus, and 
unregister when it loses focus. But I cannot give you any code for that, sorry.

On Jun 30, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all , I need to capture the key pressed in a Spec TextModel and ListModel. 
 Can someone give orientation?
 
 TIA
 
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[Pharo-users] functions keys

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

After exploring the image I believe functions keys (F1,F2, etc ) are not 
handling by KeyboardEvent class. 
I think it is very common use that function keys in business applications. 
Someone know if i am true about this topic? . 
Or maybe someone handling functions keys in an application? 

TIA 


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[Pharo-users] numeric pad

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

i actualized the vm for linux , but numeric pad of keyboard does not work. 
The keys are captured (exists KeboardEvent ) but the keys are not displaying in 
workspace for example. 

TIA 


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[Pharo-users] numeric pad

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all , i need numeric pad working for a linux application. 
I probe last pharo and last squeak vm and images and does not work . 
I need to solve it in order to continue developing a business app . 
Can anybody help me? 



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[Pharo-users] doubleClick

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I need to implement double click on TextModel. 
I need some orientation for anyone who makes something like this. 

TIA 

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[Pharo-users] image crash

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not 
work. 
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by 
menu. 
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a 
fresh one? 

TIA 



Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -

De: Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 
Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash 

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not 
work. 
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by 
menu. 
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

From where can i download oz for pharo 3? 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
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Metrotec SRL 
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pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -

De: Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a 
fresh one? 

TIA 



Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
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Metrotec SRL 
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Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -

De: Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 
Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash 

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not 
work. 
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by 
menu. 
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a 
.changes file with an editor. 

TIA 


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pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -

De: p...@highoctane.be 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 



Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. 

But it was no 3.0 

It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image 
this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after 
opening. 

One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script 
helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. 

Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! 

Now, images should not freeze. 
And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. 

I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP 
Monticello code. 

Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc 
conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. 

For commercial work these things are important. 

Phil 









Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  a écrit 
: 



From where can i download oz for pharo 3? 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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Metrotec SRL 
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Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a 
fresh one? 

TIA 



Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 
Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash 

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not 
work. 
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by 
menu. 
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Yes , Phil. I recover my work using the .changes file of corrupted image and I 
recover my work with Recover lost changes tool. 
Thanks a lot! 





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- Mensaje original -

De: p...@highoctane.be 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 16:18:52 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 

Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under Windows (do 
not know about the other platforms). 

Phil 

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
wrote: 



I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a 
.changes file with an editor. 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: p...@highoctane.be 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 



Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. 

But it was no 3.0 

It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image 
this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after 
opening. 

One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script 
helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. 

Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! 

Now, images should not freeze. 
And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. 

I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP 
Monticello code. 

Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc 
conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. 

For commercial work these things are important. 

Phil 









Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  a écrit 
: 

blockquote

From where can i download oz for pharo 3? 

TIA 


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De: Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash 

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a 
fresh one? 

TIA 



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De: Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome  pharo-users@lists.pharo.org  
Enviados: Sábado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 
Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash 

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not 
work. 
In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by 
menu. 
My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? 


TIA 


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/blockquote

[Pharo-users] spec question

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all, two questions about Spec. 

1) How can i change the font for a ListModel or TextModel? 

2) I try , but nothing happend . I does not work but there is no error also 

l := ListModel new. 
l backgroundColorBlock: [ Color red ]. 
l openWithSpec . 

Can I change de backcolor of ListModel ? 

Sorry for my english. 

TIA 




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[Pharo-users] spec question

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all, two questions about Spec. 

1) How can i change the font for a ListModel or TextModel? 

2) I try , but nothing happend . I does not work but there is no error also 

l := ListModel new. 
l backgroundColorBlock: [ Color red ]. 
l openWithSpec . 

Can I change de backcolor of ListModel ? 

Sorry for my english. 

TIA 




Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

[Pharo-users] numeric pad

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi, how can i enable numeric pad in pharo?. 
by defect it does not work i think. 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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Metrotec SRL 
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pdigonze...@gmail.com 
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Re: [Pharo-users] numeric pad

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

yes, linux. 




Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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- Mensaje original -

De: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Miércoles, 25 de Junio 2014 19:50:43 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] numeric pad 

in linux? 

On 25 Jun 2014, at 10:09, Pablo R. Digonzelli  pdigonze...@gmail.com  wrote: 




Hi, how can i enable numeric pad in pharo?. 
by defect it does not work i think. 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

thanks all!.

I am going to do some experience with glorp and shure i will ask you lot of 
things.




Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -
De: Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 21 de Mayo 2014 9:54:24
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

Pablo,

I'm using GLORP for two of my projects, with the Native PostgresV2 driver.
It is super solid, but still has some gotchas. Additionally, Pharo's version
isn't the latest.

Ask anything you need. GLORP can be really frustrating in the beginning.

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-05-21 1:15 GMT-03:00 Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com:
 Hi all, where can i get updated info about glorp ?.
 Is someone using GLORP in a real business app?

 Tia

 
 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
 Software Solutions
 IP-Solutiones SRL
 Metrotec SRL
 25 de Mayo 521
 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
 pdigonze...@gmail.com
 Cel: 5493815982714

Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Esteban hi, are you using glorp or glorp-dbx thing?

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -
De: Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 21 de Mayo 2014 11:03:22
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

thanks all!.

I am going to do some experience with glorp and shure i will ask you lot of 
things.




Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -
De: Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 21 de Mayo 2014 9:54:24
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

Pablo,

I'm using GLORP for two of my projects, with the Native PostgresV2 driver.
It is super solid, but still has some gotchas. Additionally, Pharo's version
isn't the latest.

Ask anything you need. GLORP can be really frustrating in the beginning.

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-05-21 1:15 GMT-03:00 Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com:
 Hi all, where can i get updated info about glorp ?.
 Is someone using GLORP in a real business app?

 Tia

 
 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
 Software Solutions
 IP-Solutiones SRL
 Metrotec SRL
 25 de Mayo 521
 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
 pdigonze...@gmail.com
 Cel: 5493815982714

Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Thanks!


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

- Mensaje original -
De: Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Enviados: Miércoles, 21 de Mayo 2014 15:17:41
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

They are the same thing... but the naming confuses everyone :D

I'm loading this:

spec repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/DBXTalk/Glorp/main'.
spec package: 'Glorp'.
spec package: 'GlorpPharoCompatibility' with: [ spec requires: 'Glorp' ].
spec package: 'GlorpTests' with: [ spec requires: 'Glorp' ].

spec repository: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/PharoExtras/PostgresV2/main'.
spec package: 'GlorpDriverPostgreSQL' with: [ spec requires: 'Glorp' ].

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo


2014-05-21 15:06 GMT-03:00 Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com:
 Esteban hi, are you using glorp or glorp-dbx thing?

 TIA


 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
 Software Solutions
 IP-Solutiones SRL
 Metrotec SRL
 25 de Mayo 521
 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
 pdigonze...@gmail.com
 Cel: 5493815982714

 - Mensaje original -
 De: Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com
 Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
 Enviados: Miércoles, 21 de Mayo 2014 11:03:22
 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

 thanks all!.

 I am going to do some experience with glorp and shure i will ask you lot of 
 things.




 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
 Software Solutions
 IP-Solutiones SRL
 Metrotec SRL
 25 de Mayo 521
 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
 pdigonze...@gmail.com
 Cel: 5493815982714

 - Mensaje original -
 De: Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com
 Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
 Enviados: Miércoles, 21 de Mayo 2014 9:54:24
 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] glorp

 Pablo,

 I'm using GLORP for two of my projects, with the Native PostgresV2 driver.
 It is super solid, but still has some gotchas. Additionally, Pharo's version
 isn't the latest.

 Ask anything you need. GLORP can be really frustrating in the beginning.

 Regards,

 Esteban A. Maringolo


 2014-05-21 1:15 GMT-03:00 Pablo R. Digonzelli pdigonze...@gmail.com:
 Hi all, where can i get updated info about glorp ?.
 Is someone using GLORP in a real business app?

 Tia

 
 Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
 Software Solutions
 IP-Solutiones SRL
 Metrotec SRL
 25 de Mayo 521
 Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com
 pdigonze...@gmail.com
 Cel: 5493815982714

[Pharo-users] glorp

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

Hi all, where can i get updated info about glorp ?. 
Is someone using GLORP in a real business app? 

Tia 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
Email: pdigonze...@softsargentina.com 
pdigonze...@gmail.com 
Cel: 5493815982714 

Re: [Pharo-users] Best/simplest way to read and write to a MySQL database

[Pablo R. Digonzelli]

PharoPro ? 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
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- Mensaje original -

De: Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com 
Para: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org 
Enviados: Sábado, 10 de Mayo 2014 10:01:51 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] Best/simplest way to read and write to a MySQL 
database 

PharoPro ? 


On 10 May 2014 04:09, stepharo  steph...@free.fr  wrote: 




On 9/5/14 21:54, Andy Burnett wrote: 

blockquote

ᐧ 
Thanks everyone, I shall try the DBXTalk approach. It seems as though it is 
being actively developed. 

As a side note, I think it would be great if Pharo could identify a 'main 
stream' route for dealing with RDBMS. It would be similar to the way in which 
Zinc is the main way to do http etc. 



Yes this is on our roadmap. 
We would like to have a page with all the supported and 100% robust solutions. 
We will start working on that with esteban 
in the context of PharoPro. 


blockquote

I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from doing interestng experiments, it's 
just that a main stream route would help people to get going. 

/blockquote

100% agreed. 


blockquote


Cheers 
Andy 

/blockquote


/blockquote